Anne Arundel Police serving order to remove guns shoot, kill armed man- Updated
A relative of the man fatally shot by Anne Arundel County Police Monday morning says the incident stems from a family dispute Sunday night.
The woman who asked we not identify her says, the family was fighting over the care of an elderly grandparent. It’s during the argument, the relative says, Gary Willis made a comment that prompted another member of their family to seek an emergency risk protective order.
Maryland’s “Red Flag Law” took effect at the beginning of October. Under the new law, someone close to an individual can petition a court commissioner to issue a protective order that allows police to take a person’s firearms should they show signs of being a risk to themselves or someone else.
Within its first month. one-hundred-fourteen ERPOs had been petitioned in Maryland. Mark Pennack the President of the organization Maryland Shall Issue says, “This has disaster written all over it.” One neighbor said, “ I didn’t even know about the new law…He (Willis) probably didn’t.”
And just like that, a man is dead because of a comment and the “Red Flag” law in Maryland. No investigation, no probable cause, just a phone call from an irate relative. The Police showed up at the residence at around 0500, demanding Mr. Willis’ firearm. At first he complied, then he retrieved it and a struggle ensued. His firearm discharged, striking nothing, and then he was shot and died at the scene. This is truly frightening. Thank Governor Hogan for enacting this horrific law- it needs to be challenged immediately before more citizens are shot dead in their own living room.
View the article at Fox Balitmore
Update.
As promised, a link to the more in-depth article. That doesn’t make it any less infuriating.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
He retrieved it???
That’s how another article describes the encounter. Can’t link to it from where I am- I’ll post an update when able.
And that’s a great question for a lot of reasons.
An Extreme Risk Protective Order is not a protective, or stay-away, order. It’s sole purpose is to authorize gov’t agents (i.e., police) to seize guns and ammo. And one of the stand-alone bases for issuing the order is an allegation that the person at issue abuses alcohol. Another is ‘an alarming statement.’ Holy Shi’ite. Read it yourselves. Here you go:
https://mdcourts.gov/district/ERPO#can
Interesting (concerning) side note: An ERPO can be taken out (i.e., “getting 1302d) against anyone, whether they own guns or not. Big possibility of swatting. 114 ERPOs went out since 1 October.
Another account relates what has to be the police version of events. They knocked on his door. He answered with a gun in his hand. He put it down. Matters got heated and he picked the gun up. A struggle ensued. A round was fired. He was shot. Me, I want to see the body cam video.
That in itself would answer a LOT of questions.
AA County does NOT use body cams. They DO have a Bearcat. Priorities…
In a world in which we trust our law enforcement, I’d rather spend money protecting cops than filming them go to the bathroom.
“In a world in which we trust our law enforcement”
I used to live in that world. I miss it.
Dash cam video saved my brother’s career and marriage.
I prefer “trust, but verify” – it works out better for everyone.
As a strong supporter of Law Enforcement I agree. I bet most police chiefs agree with us.
At 5:17 in the morning I do not think it unreasonable to answer the door with a gun in your hand. Probably a wee bit irritated, too. I would be.
“Matters got heated”.
I imagine so. A gentle knock on the door wakes me up at 5 AM (way before the first cup of coffee) and it’s Officer Friendly telling me I have to surrender my guns, and probably also allow a search, because some unidentified friend or relative said I couldn’t be trusted with them.
The “victim,” is a typical dindu, the stupid asshole should have complied. Cops don’t just show up and blast people.
Jose Guerna couldn’t be reached for comment.
Cause, ya know, he’s still dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1pJe_Tcdeg
The speaker, a Sgt., retired shortly after and moved out of the country.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1173602/GRAPHIC-Charleston-cop-fatally-shoots-man-runs-away.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqBAOX6Qegk
etc.
The results of five minutes on the internet, starting with googling “police shoot…., youtube”
Then there are shootings like Julie Damond, who were not taped.
No warrant?
No come in.
The near future:
“Thank you for calling the Extreme Risk Protective Order Help Line. Please listen carefully as our menu options have changed. If you want someone’s guns confiscated, please press 1. If you are calling from a rotary phone, please stay on the line for assistance.”
About fifteen years ago I entered into an agreement with some friends.
Should you be in danger of losing firearms call us. We will take them and keep them secure until you get due process. Local cops like it that way.
Only had to do it once but that was enough to make it worthwhile.
Just one word for my Brothers and Sisters in the PDR of MD….MOVE
Easier said than done.
^word^..All over that. Food for thought, we got room in Mid GA. Long as you stay out of the city, you avoid the libtards and yuppies. Real estate is reasonable, a boat load of jobs begging for applicants, a major AFB that is very BRAC Resistant. ATL Airport 45-60 min up the road. Mountains 2 hrs north, ocean beach 2 hrs east. Strong Vet presence and VA Med Centers. Trophy deer hunting and bountiful gardens. Misters Carrier and Trane help alleviate the weather problem of summer. Some cities even require you to own a firearm. Just keep driving south past the big chicken.
Thanks. Actually drove through Georgia on my way to Ft. Walton Beach a week ago. Georgia is defiantly on the short list, but I still have a couple of years yet.
Ed, Google “Hot Springs Village.” Sadly, so many military retirees overlook Arkansas. It’s a shame because it’s beautiful over on our western half of the state: mountain ranges with excellent hunting, lakes everywhere with good fishing, and genuinely good people. Housing is unbelievably affordable.
We made a drive here from the New Mexico skiing resort town where we had lived eight years and were absolutely stunned by the natural beauty of this huge gated community, 14 miles across and the largest in the US.
We’ve been here five years and absolutely love it.
First moved to Hot Springs Village in 1988. Had to leave because of my job 4 years later. Stayed in the area and visited occasionally. Moved back 3 years ago and love it. The lifestyle here is fantastic. Quiet, peaceable, and secure. This a gated community of 40 sq. miles. The police here help you. They realize this a retirement community. Very little crime here. People keep there property up.
When you say “trophy dear” do you mean ones that will fit on a trophy or ones that earn trophies? Granted I haven’t lived in the entire state, but the ones I saw could hide behind a dog!
I agree with everything else you have said about the great state.
Buy my house.
Or mine.
I live in one of the darkest blue towns of a deep blue state. Three more years to retirement and I’m out. Was thinking of FL, but that state seems to have drifted into leftyland. Am looking at MS and perhaps SC; may look at GA, although my only real exposure to GA has been Fort Benning/Columbus…
See my comment above about Arkansas. It’s an absolutely beautiful place to retire that is far too often overlooked.
I would love to. Unfortunately, circumstances don’t allow it.
We’ll leave the light on for y’all. FL has gone real lefty and import shitty. Daughter, GBabies and SnL been there since ’06 and it’s gotten worse. Population, traffic, real estate prices and taxes are just getting worse. GA is bearable as long as you stay out of the cities. Columbus has really gone libtard yuppie demon rat plantation, and with the tread heads at Benning, there’s more GIs for the locals to fleece. Need to be at least 1 county or 35 miles out from any “metro” area to be away from the riff raff. Don’t even consider anything within 60 miles of ATL. North GA is getting eat up with rich yankees building retirement homes, driving up prices. Surprisingly an area most folks don’t even think about that is a good place to retire is Nebraska and S.Dakota. Winters can be brutal, but there’s a lot of folk that think like we do. Good Luck.
Pimping Alabama:
– This shit would never fly down here
– Lots of jobs
– Low cost of living
– No ret mil pay tax
– Real football team
When is UA going to turn Pro? They don’t really have any competition anymore at the College level. Clemson will put up a good fight, but they seem to have filled in the seems that the Tigers exploited last time.
AMEN!!! I just watched Missourians vote themselves into min wage hikes, medical marijuana AND unelected redistricting. I will likely stay here 4 more to get my RN, but after that, it’s back to where I call home (Enterprise)….
Sounds like a relative was getting payback because he was trying to stop them from doing something. Like say drain someones bank account? Now people have a way to REALLY screw with you.
These new “Rules/Laws” need to go before higher courts. This is Guilty until proven innocent. Once they have your guns, forget it, they are gone forever. They will end up either on the street or in some cops gun collection.
We had a State law in Washington that determined long ago, the State alone will establish all laws regarding weapons issues and not local authorities. The purpose was to have one standard Statewide instead of different ones in every county and municipality. It worked.
Then a city on the Left and liberal side made their own ordinance concerning securing weapons in a fashion making them pretty much null and void for home defense and holding owners responsible for their weapons if they were stolen. In fact, it is on a Statewide Initiative today as I-1639. (Hoping it fails as do most all in my part of the State.)
But when the local city law was challenged by the NRA it was overturned, citing the standing State law, giving preeminence to the State over lower governments. Then on appeal, the liberal court upheld it and now it is one hell of a mess.
1639 isn’t worth the paper it was written on.
If it passes, I’m borrowing my roommates boat…
This is where things are heading. If liberals cannot repeal the 2ND Amendment, they will institute state and local laws such as these.
Any pissed off ex-wife, butthurt neighbor or the mailman or anyone can call and claim fear of their life, not due to actual threats but only their emotional upset at not getting their way.
And when enforcement comes, absent more than hearsay, things can go sideways in a hurry. I agree this man should never have put his hand back on his weapon. It showed intent, but without bodycam footage, we will never know. What I do know, is a family has a dead member over nothing more than an internal family problem, caused by bad and in my mind unconstitutional laws of an anti-American State.
And that would be why I live in the county I do, and why I do not associate with y siblings.. I can definitely see them doing something like this.. or for any of you who have watched the new Navy Seals show (I know, I know, but it’s entertainment), the psycho young american chick that kills the one older seal, then shoots up the families of two others? without exaggeration, I can see on of my sisters being her, she is just that indoctrinated…
It will be interesting to see what happens to the person who made the complaint against the decedent.
I don’t think family reunions are going to be quite the same for them from here on out. I can’t imagine why nobody wants to sit at their table…
I am curious to know what the man said that seemed to meet the standards for the “emergency”.
Is is possible that the guy really was a loose cannon on deck. That thought does not advocate for the hideous law.
Assuming someone gets the court to disclose their identity.
Reading the requirements, it can’t just be a neighbor (relative, roommate/cohabitant, doctor). Contrary to news story there is a lot of paperwork to fill out, so whomever made the complaint knew what they were doing. The complainant needs to appear in court, and within 7 days the “victim” gets to dispute the order in court…guess that won’t happen.
I am not anti cop. I am however anti storm trooper. I do not believe in no knock raids, or searches without warrants. Many people have died or been injured by police who feel the must roll out the SWAT team for calls that do not require such a response. My neighbor’s kid got into a drunken fight with a friend of his and the cops showed up with a 20 man squad. Had they listened to his mother they could of found his passed out ass in his room. With laws like this I am afraid this will happen again and again. Thanks liberals.
In all fairness, it’s not just liberals. Folks who think the police can do no wrong are at least as responsible for things like the “no-knock” laws. And the increasing paranoia of the police themselves, who are trained to act as though every citizen is an imminent danger to them.
Yeah conservatives are always screaming for laws that eliminate Constitutional rights without trial or evidence. Show me a left wing nut and I’ll show you someone whose ambition in life is to run a concentration camp oven.
Never overlook that old admonition to, “Follow the money.” You can bet your ass that 20 man roll-out will be factored into next year’s budget proposal. More high-personnel roll-outs equal more justifiable increases in the coming year’s budget needs.
A minor fender-bender accident that used to require a single squad car now has a call-out of multiple police units plus fire trucks and ambulances.
It’s all a game of numbers. Tax payers’ numbers.
A number of states have enacted similar laws to Maryland’s and I admit to knowing nothing about them until today. It all started with Connecticut and, at first blush, it appears to be little used. Of course, “little” is a relative term and if the police came for my guns based upon someone’s say-so and nothing else, it wouldn’t be little to me. I mean to look into this. This is nasty stuff.
I’d like to know what they define as, “close”?
Spouse? Parent/child? Sibling?
Father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate?
And 114 times the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendment rights of an individual have been royally shit upon. Let me know how much the crime rate in Baltimore, PG County, etc., drop as a result. Yeah, I’ll wait.
Can’t help but wonder how soon will it be until people will seek this sort of action when they are offended by comments seen on “FaceSpace”?
Fuckers.
Two assholes, er, lawmakers, in New York have or are in the process of, introducing a bill to mandate a 3 year review of social media of anyone attempting to buy a firearm. The bill would also require a one year search of internet search history.
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/gun-social-media-check/
It strikes me that there’s a due process element missing here. If I read it correctly, the law suggests a judge or some legal commissioner gets to decide if a person is a threat to him/her self. I always thought that a psychological eval was required to substantiate such a claim.
It goes on to suggest the respondent may or may not get a hearing before a decision is made.
The story doesn’t say how things played out on how quickly the order was issued to the time it was carried out.
Review social media and internet posts for a year? I’m not sure how that’s possible without violating all kinds of rights.
I believe that the following persons are a danger to themselves and humanity:
Maxine Waters
Dianne Feinstein
Sheila Jackson Lee
Charles Schumer
George Soros
Michael Bloomberg
Shannon Watson
Mark Kelly
Nanci Pelosi
The Nameless One
Fat Ass table cloth wearing nasty “woman.”
Everyone in Hollywood except James Woods, Tom Selleck, Eliza Dushku, Chef Alton Brown?[that’s cool], Clint Eastwood, Gary Senise, Bruce Willis probably Steven Seagal (he’s gotten way too fat to run after someone and break all of their bones.
All anti-gun persons should have their bodyguards disarmed.
“All anti-gun persons should have their bodyguards disarmed.”
Aesop level irony.
AND they need to live outside of the gated communities they are in right now as well as having no fences or walls around their houses like they tell everyone else to live!
This is the most crazy violation of the Bill of Rights that I have seen.
Unbelievable.
I don’t even have to read the text of the law to know that there are no penalties for knowingly false accusations.
That is a feature of these laws
Not a bug
What provisions are there for the return of the firearm to a person so accused, as in the Maryland case?
You kidding? I had a nice Remington .22 bolt rifle that was stolen and used in a crime. It’s not worth the attorny’s fee to get it back.
Sucks, but there it is.
A variation of the forfeiture of assets by government coercion?
I see that Hogan has been reelected. May he be called to task for this terrible law. He is not his father’s son.
“Thank Governor Hogan for enacting this horrific law”
In fairness to Hogan the bill was sent up with veto proof majorities in the Maryland House and Senate (93-46 & 31-13). The population also overwhelmingly supported it as well (over 85%). Going against the bill would have achieved nothing other giving his opponents in the election ammunition.