Don’t lecture me

| February 22, 2018

The days are gone when I tolerate lectures on gun control. We’ve been told that the country expects us to have a discussion about gun control, but mostly my side is expected to sit down and listen while we’re insulted and subjected to lies by people who don’t know the difference between stocks and flash suppressors. Now they drag children into this so-called discussion. The adults don’t know what they’re talking about, but we’re supposed to listen to children who, last week, we were lecturing about the dangers of eating laundry detergent.

A father of one of last week’s victims, Andrew Pollack, was himself victimized in the media when he showed up at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School wearing a Trump 2020 T-shirt. While he went through the grief process, goobers on the Left beat him up for his politics. He’ll get it again because he went to talk to the President and told the President that his focus should be on protecting students rather than get embroiled in the politics of gun control.

Colton Haab, an 18-year-old survivor of the shooting said that he refused to take part in CNN’s town hall-style program because CNN producers rejected his planned remarks that didn’t focus on more gun control;

“Colton wrote questions about school safety, suggested using veterans as armed school security guards but claims CNN wanted him to ask a scripted question instead so he decided not to go,” Stanwood reported.

“CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions and it ended up being all scripted,” Haab said. “I don’t think that it’s going get anything accomplished. It’s not gonna ask the true questions that all the parents and teachers and students have.”

CNN denies that account, but Michelle Malkin reminds us of CNN’s record of deceit in their “Town hall” programs.

The media is focused like a laser on banning so-called assault rifles, a product that they can’t even define. There were tons of failures going back years which caused the shootings last week and we still don’t even have answers to simple questions like “How does someone who has been forbidden to come on school grounds with even a backpack get a long gun in the hallways without someone noticing?” Yet, we’re going to listen to children about policy decisions. Beyond the frightful appearance of the guns, what characteristics should we ban and still remain true to the Second Amendment?

There are hundreds of things that will make students safer in their schools that are easier than trying to ram gun control down our throats.

Every sissy who ever fired a gun uses that experience to tell me to get rid of my scary black rifles – shut up, you’re coming off as a bunch of fear mongering pansies with your “The Time for Civilians to Own AR-15s Is Over” bullshit. You have your right to an opinion, but I have a right to call you a pansy, too. In fact, it’s time for journalists to be required to background checks and psyche profiles before they write. Don’t like me imposing on your Constitutional Rights? Well, now you know how I feel.

We’re not being told the entire truth about the events of last week, yet, I’m being lectured on gun control in nebulous, knee jerk platitudes. No, I won’t sit still while students lecture me. And the NRA can stop calling me – three times they’ve shook their tin cup at me since noon yesterday.

And, oh, a preemptive “F*** you” to Mountain Climbing Colorado Joe who has been haunting gun control posts all week.

Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists

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Rosalee Ann Adams

‘record of deceit…’
Media in general fits that description. Had CNN been around during Vietnam they would have cheerfully assisted the others in convincing America we, the military, were the enemy.
I walked then and none have displayed any reason for me to reconsider taking them with more than a grain of salt

desert

Now now, poor lil old cnn is just so overly concerned with the deaths of those 17 students!!..But…funny isn’t it, they don’t give a shyt about the 50 million plus kids that have been aborted! but then that fits the decreasing of our population for the communist agenda, they are very concerned with kids carrying a gun into school..but wouldn’t for the life of them stand up for a kid carrying a BIBLE to school…..freaking lying, satan worshipping,, communist scum, NWO puppets, dumocrap liberals and leftists….!

11B-Mailclerk

Folks, just when I thought the Florida shooting could not be worse, I find out that a -sworn sherrif’s deputy- who was -armed- was present at the school during the shooting,

And apparently did not even attempt to intervene.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/22/deputy-assigned-to-florida-school-never-went-in-during-shooting-sheriff-says.html

Yup. The anti freedom types say that the special trained folks will protect us.

Apparently by cowering while kids are slaughtered. Strange choice of tactic there deputy “no balls”. Were you able to hear their screams as you cowered outside?

I -so- deeply wish that Coward had been sired into a “happy sock”.

CPT11A

Make your way over to Twitchy to see the lefties, the same ones who claim guns are for cowards, proclaiming that the derelict deputy can’t be faulted for failing to stand up to a madman with an AR-15.

Their babbling is increasingly difficult to follow.

TxRadioguy

What the lefties don’t seem to realize is that in a CQB situation like that…someone trained in firearms armed with a 9mm pistol wince just about every time against a spray and pray inexperienced nut job like this Cruz kid was. This “resource office” was about to drop his retirement packet. That was probably the biggest motivating factor as to why he didn’t engage the shooter.

Mason

Wow, just wow. You had one job, dude.

Since he retired, I’m going to wager he was looking for an easy final assignment. Schools can be an easy gig with a chance at a normal schedule.

HMCS(FMF) ret

The filth gets deeper… just read this and it made me mad.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966854507744374784.html

Mason

That kind of stuff is rampant in schools. The schools always want to handle criminal matters internally. They don’t want to “institutionalize” the criminal kids. The schools routinely go as far as hiding crimes, aiding an offender, or just plain obstructing the police in general.

As for the numbers game they were playing, that happens in every government institution. Since the chiefs are political appointees and the sheriffs elected the numbers are what they run on. They can be massaged in any direction you want. Want to make the case for additional cops? Start writing reports and pulling case numbers for everything, now it looks like the city/county/state is the midst of a uptick in crime. Going into an election year? Suddenly we’re classifying assaults as “disturbances” and burglaries as “thefts”.

W2

I was going to troll you guys a bit because I knew all the comments would be the same about the “libtard gun grabbers”. I could’t come up with anything pithy though. This fucknut pulled the fire alarm and started shooting kids as they were exiting their classrooms. Does anybody think for a minute he couldn’t have killed 17 people with a Glockenspiel and extra magazines?

Nobody in the media is talking the real reason everybody’s panties are in a knot, which is some mental reject picked up a long gun and decided it would be cool to be internet famous. Fix the rotting underbelly of pop culture that makes boys think this acceptable to do. We, as kids had access to weapons, but didn’t shoot people 40 years ago in when I was in HS because we knew it was wrong. WTF changed? And no, it isn’t 8 years of President Obama either. Lwt’s face It, some kids are FUBAR because some parents are FUBAR (and not just genetically either). Go to a restaurant or store and watch how engrossed people are with their phones while little Johnny and Susie are going ape shit in the joint.

That AR-15 no more killed those students than King Kong did. It’s not helping when people place blame on inatimate objects instead of why our society is so sick that kids and young adults think this is something cool to do.

I will troll a bit though. It’s be a great idea that if your minor kid used your gun in one of these attacks, or brings it to school, then you should be prosecuted, your guns removed and your ability to purchase firearms revoked. When you don’t lock your shit up, and little Billy comes along and takes one of your guns to school and shoots somebody, you should have to pay a price. Just like if little Billy throws back a couple of brews and t-bones a car and kills the occupants. Not gun grabbing, just removing weapons from the hands of irresponsible people.

W2

And making parents responsible for the actions of their kids.

The people that harbored this mental reject need to be grilled. They called him a “monster” but allowed him to live in their home, with his weapons, and did nothing. Maybe they should face some civil or criminal charges.

rgr769

They were “grilled” by Dr. Phil day before yesterday on his show. Their “lawer” was sitting with them; and it was obvious to me they had been fully rehearsed as to what to say and not say, as I am reasonably certain they will be defendants in some, if not all, of the wrongful death and personal injury lawsuits arising from this school shooting, especially if they have homeowners’ insurance. Although, their policy limits will likely be rather meager split over 17 ways. I imagine the runners and cappers for the local PI (personal injury) plaintiffs’ attorneys are working overtime soliciting the victims’ parents for their respective cases.

W2

And I used glockenspiel on purpose too /sarc/. More of a 1911 man myseff.

Hondo

I love it when I see folks deride any firearm that uses polymers and claim “John Browning would never have done that”.

John Browning was a helluva good engineer. Good engineers try to produce the best designs they can, given the restraints and constraints imposed on them regarding the item at hand. Sometimes that means investigating using numerous feasible materials – then choosing the best one overall for the task at hand and using that in the design.

If today’s polymers had existed when Browning designed the M1911 and his other firearms of that era, you can bet your butt he’d have investigated using them in his designs. And I’m guessing the odds are about 2:1 or better he’d have used them.

26Limabeans

1911 grips went from wood to early “plastic” as it became available. And through more than one iteration of “plastic”.
I still prefer the checkered Walnut on my pre war commercial.

rgr769

There is something about checkered walnut or rosewood that just warms the heart.

The Other Whitey

Having tried all of the above, I personally prefer the feel of wood. I tossed the factory rubber grips that came with my Kimber and replaced them with some nice rosewood panels. That gun is gorgeous! I’m starting to think about wood grips for my CZ as well.

But to each his own.

11B-Mailclerk

Florida already has a law requiring secure storage to prevent minors’ access to household firearms. They do prosecute. Other states have similar laws.

This shooter was 19 and bought the rifle.

Your snark on responsibility of adults has a point, but your impact is largely muted by having missed obvious facts.

I do concur on punishing dickehead parents. You will have to petition Universe 6, however. The shooter’s mom died of flu, leaving him orphaned. The folks who sheltered him required him to lock up his guns. They think he had a duplicate key. I think he simply had a holdout in a duffle bag or similar. And as “adult” , he really could not be forced by what amounts to a roommate.

Not trolling back, just pointing out that “prevention” laws seldom work, but active deterrents usually do.

Except of course, when the hired, trained, sworn deterrent cowers like a yellow bitch in the parking lot.

11B-Mailclerk

Whoops. This should have been tied to your “parents” blurb.

W2

That’s why I said minor child 11-B. I did not know about Florida’s laws punishing parents for weapons left unlocked and will search to see if any adult has ever been charged there. Since you and Hondo brought it up, yeah, he was an “adult” but was he? The law is no booze until 21 because some people under that age didn’t use it responsibly (me included). If society has decided booze is too dangerous in the hands of a 19 year old then for god’s sake WTF was he doing with firearms? Any type of firearm? And please don’t trot out the “l joined the military when I was 17” BS either. Even though you may have been far from home, you had adult supervision whether you wanted it or not and if you got cross threaded you knew the man was going to fuggle you up at mast.

Sometimes everybody has to pay for the sins of the few. Raising the age of gun ownership to 21, just like the equally dangerous booze, isn’t too much of a stretch. Sucks for a few, but oh well.

Hondo

This shooter was 19 and bought the rifle.

At 19, the shooter was legally an adult. For that reason I’d have a problem with holding his parents responsible even if they were still living.

A parent doesn’t have much legal control over an adult child’s actions. About all they can do is throw him/her out of the house.

dusty1

Check out “Firearm owners United” website for real life, un-biased newsworthy stories on the past & current issues affecting law abiding gun owners in Australia & the U.S.A
Plenty of good B.S free info there that you won’t generally read in the MSM.

11B-Mailclerk

Well, let’s be clear here. “Bias” can include “in the Constitutionally correct direction”.

Almost any news source has a bias. Thus why it is a good idea to check the other sides of an opinion, if only for pithy snark targets or memorable YGBFSM quotes.

dusty1

Bias towards the truth and facts on F.O.U

11B-mailclerk

I am biased towards Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

My “leap” is more like “over sprawling small furry critters”, but I make do with what I have.

dusty1

Gun owners in the U.S.A shouldn’t be complacent with the likes of Australian rabid anti-gun Rebecca Peters & the United Nations & other non government organisations working day & night to formulate policies to remove all small arms from private ownership world-wide & in the meantime make it as hard as possible for law abiding shooters to enjoy their hobby.
They are just waiting to drive in the thin edge of the wedge & a bump stock ban will be it, next will be magazine capacities and possible rates of fire and all gas operated ex-mil AR15 variants & AK47’s will be on their hit list.
If Trump fails to act, next election He may well be gone…If He does act he may well be gone anyway.

QMC

I can’t understand why anyone that isn’t a gun grabbing leftie would even agree to go on a so called “Townhall” that is planned out by CNN. Everyone knows it’s a staged propaganda set up.

David

Saw an article yesterday in which a kid who was supposed to be on that show called it carefully scripted, and that when he indicated conservative views which conflicted with the script he was disinvited.

rgr769

CNN is a proggie/D-rat propaganda arm. This David Hogg kid was on a CNN VIP tour not long ago and his mom is an anti-Trump D-rat.

lily

Do you sell memberships for the NRA or work there?

lily

RM3(SS)

The drum shotty looks cool but I’ll stick with my 870.

rgr769

I attended a tactical shotgun course and one of the students was shooting a Saiga semi-auto shotgun like the one in the video (without the drum magazine). It often jammed on him; I wouldn’t want to depend on one in a gunfight. Most of us were armed with the venerable 870 and the Mosberg 500 series of pumps.

Frank

It gets worse.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/23/broward-county-sheriffs-office-did-not-miss-warning-signs-or-make-mistakes/
The rapid anti-2nd Amendment response makes me think that the global anti-Freedom elite encourage these murders to happen in order to push their agenda.
A “false flag” attack.
Bear in mind these same pinkoes were found exporting weapons to Mexican criminals in op. FAST&FURIOUS.
Create a “gun free zone,” fill it with defenceless kids and wait for that sicko kid you’ve been feeding psycho drugs to for years to do the rest.

A Proud Infidel®™

I wonder if they don’t just sit around waiting for the next shooting to happen so they can dance in the blood of the victims in front of news cameras?

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