Dean Winslow and “insane” gun ownership
Several people have sent us links regarding Dean Winslow’s comments during his confirmation hearing for his position as a chief of the military health system at the Pentagon. According to MSN, he told the Senate Armed Service committee;
“I may get in trouble with other members of the committee just say how insane it is that in the United States of America a civilian can go out and buy a semi-automatic like an AR-15, which apparently was the weapon that was used [in the Sutherland Springs, Texas shooting],” Winslow said. “I think that’s an issue not as much for this committee, but elsewhere.”
The question from Senator. Jeanne Shaheen, (D-NH) was in regards to the Texas shooter’s domestic violence conviction and whether he deserved a Bad Conduct or Dishonorable discharge. Luckily, Winslow’s remarks are about a subject clearly outside his area of responsibility in his new job. But then, Shaheen’s question was just her attempt to appear as if she’s paying attention to the news.
Of course, Winslow is a retired Air Force colonel, you know, like other Air Force colonels who are squishy on guns while guns are in the news. Like I said yesterday, I don’t pay any attention to fobbits’ opinions on second amendment issues. As long as Winslow doesn’t have any real policy-making responsibilities on who gets to own what guns, I’m not going to get real exercised about it.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
Shooting is much more fun when you’re insane and drunk…and getting a BJ. Just sayin.
I’m only posting this up here cause folks have to see this sickness….. self neutering attention whore “man”. I can’t believe this self righteousness.
Mittelschmerz
That’s funny!!!
What an idiot. I never stood in front of a mirror with my AR or my M16 – never did that, must have had a neglected childhood. But, why does his Glock and a “clip” and the ARs have “magazines”? His entire argument is meaningless to me but if he is that afraid of those perfectly legal weapons then he dos not deserve to own one (two) to glad he got rid of them. Too bad he could not trust anyone else to own them. What a……(fill-in).
What is wrong with this arrogant asshole? He read in the Bible where “if you lack a sword, sell your coat and buy one, then cut it up in pieces?” This freak looks like he wants to start a “how to” course for terrorists….ignorance is rampant in this country, since it turned from Almighty God!
I am having a hard time finding the slide of my own AR, I guess it must be hidden next to my Glock clip.
If this dingdong was being nominated to be the chief of the health system for the VA, then this might be a different story…
It’s always been, fear the Govt. that fears guns.
He should have stuck to being dean winslow of the Navy or was that Don Winslow of the Navy, other chapter play, Don Winslow of the Coast Guard.
Estimates are 5-10 Million AR style rifles in the U.S. The liberal news site USNEWS lists “all the mass killings done with AR-15 rifles” at 7. So that leaves 4,999,993 rifles that have killed no one. So in the liberal view it makes perfect sense to ban them. After all they “might” be used in murder.
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-11-07/how-the-ar-15-assault-rifle-became-one-of-the-most-popular-guns-in-america
I read an article today that said the guy that intervened used an AR rifle as well.
Yes there was 1 report of the Good Guy using a semi auto clone M4 then nothing. The LSM cannot use that as it because it runs against their Meme. Joe
The anti-gunners recently hailed as a success the 52,000 guns & other weapons handed in during a three month gun amnesty in Australia saying that they could no longer be used in crime.
Well the facts are, not one was proven to used in a crime & some had been in community circulation & un-licenced private ownership for 150 years.
Background checks are a good thing & keep guns away from some but like always, if you want a gun you will find one, or a knife, screwdriver or hammer or rental truck.
And when your life or the lives of others are at risk and when seconds matter….the police are only 15 minutes away.
I’d rather be judged for my actions by twelve of my peers than carried in a coffin by twelve of my friends.
Nothings perfect & there are risks in everyday life but the U.S.A’s gun laws & the right to bear arms & the right of self defence seem sensible to me.
Yep , the gullible aussies turned in their guns alright…..and the crime rate…WENT THROUGH THE ROOF!
Well not quite, many of the guns that were grabbed in 1996 were registered on paper so they just made sure you handed them in & got compensated or the police came around & got them, you really had no choice, many of the other firearms that were not on paper went underground.
Gun owning Aussie’s were not so gullible as to believe in left & right wing anti-gun politicians who just wait for the correct timing to grab guns or change laws so aussie gun owner’s started various political parties like the Shooters, Fishers & Farmers party & several others & now hold the balance of power in some state governments, there is also several pro-gun politicians at Federal level that hold sway on some votes.
There are more guns & registered firearms owners in Australia now than ever before.
As for your assertion that crime rates went through the roof, that hasn’t happened, many went down like suicide by gun and mass casualty shootings and firearms being used in crime.
Lawful gun ownership & crime rates are not linked in Australia.
Immigration from lawless third world countries & outlaw motorcycle gangs & meth & other drug addicted crims largely drive crime rates in Australia.
We haven’t had any mass casualty shootings since 1996 and you shouldn’t be so gullible to think that Australian style gun laws or parts thereof are not being considered or will be enacted by law makers & politicians at state & federal level in the U.S.A and they are being supported by the U.N and other anti-gun N.G.O’s.
Just another stupid Air Farce bytch yapping about something he knows nothing about. I remember when they took the M1911’s away from the Air Force because their AP’s were constantly shooting themselves and each other because of their lack of competency with semi-auto pistols. I was surprised when I was handed a S&W wheel gun for my survival vest when I suited up to ride in the back seat of a USAF OV-10 Bronco in the Viet of the Nam. If we had to eject, I doubt those six .38 special rounds would have been much of a deterrent to being captured by the commies.
LOL! Your comment reminded me of when I was stationed at Pearl in 72 and would drive through the Hickam gate on occasion. the AP’s had pearl handled 6 shooters in cross draw holsters. Looked real cool. 🙂
They are a nifty uniform ornament if you are not going to get into a real firefight in real combat. Of course, they were the only thing available as a multi-shot pistola 130 years ago. And you are less likely to have an ND (negligent discharge) with the wheelgun than with the semi-auto because you forgot there is still a round in the chamber after dropping the magazine.
There is a place for revolvers… easily chambered for higher-powered rounds than in most autos, easier to control with higher powered rounds (try managing a small Glock in .357 Sig, then try a .357 Magnum from a 3″ K-frame.) And show me an auto which can be cleared and a new round chambered with one finger. Some wonderful old rounds like .45 Colt or .44 Special are only chambered in revolvers, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNFW8eSzb44
If tripping off a cylinder full of .45LC loaded with about 37 grains of FFFg each doesn’t put a huge smile on your face… you’re dead.
I don’t disagree. I love my revolvers and shoot the more than the semi-autos. I just would not want to be in a pistol firefight and only be able to reload a couple of times with speed loaders of six rounds.
I have yet to find a documented case where a rapid reload made the difference in survival or success in a purely-civilian defensive shooting.
They may have occurred, but are so rare they are hard to find.
(If anyone has one, a link or case citation would be -greatly- appreciated)
You are going to solve the problem with the rounds in the gun. The reload is almost always just to get you home after the fight.
Make the first ones count.
I ‘spect that a lot depends upon the type of firefight one might get into.
The average CHL/LTC/CC citizen is not likely to get into a prolonged gunfight requiring several 12- or 15-round magazine changes. A LEO has more chances of that. And if an 11B MOS is in that pickle he’s really FUBARed.
My objection to carrying, say, a Colt Python with about a 6″ barrel is keeping the blame thing concealed. Speed loaders are great, IMO, but carrying just two on the belt really adds to the bulk and detracts from the concealability. It would almost have to be an open-carry piece.
And like the sound of a 12-ga being racked says “get to running”, a big ass revolver on the hip open carried says “don’t f with me, son.”
I don’t depend on the sound of racking a round to change a perp’s behavior. I don’t feel good about open carry, because it says “You need to shoot me first.” It is tactically preferable to surprise any bad guys with the fact that one is armed, IMHO.
That said, my LEO brother did have a case one time where he racked a round while he inadvertently keyed the mike on the patrol-car bullhorn. He never had to say “Halt!” – the perp immediately stopped with hands held high.
Others have had different experiences.
I think the sound of a 12 guage pump chambering around is pretty terrifying in the dark.
I now have a 90 pound 19 month old German Shepherd. I recently came across a T-shirt that reads.
The Dog is to let me know you’re here.
The Gun is to make sure you leave.
I feel much better about separating the weapon from the ammo because of the kids now that I have the puppy.
Your T-shirt scares me. Please make it go away. 🙂
Been told more than once that while the sound of a pump shotgun being racked is intimidating to a normal person, someone all drugged up willing to do an invasion on a occupied home ain’t normal. Muzzle blast works much better on them.
Graybeard, they make smaller revolvers, just like they make smaller autos. Many are surprisingly comfortable to shoot. And the key is knowing your guns… I remember reading a while back where in England they used to run matches (at least into the ’90s) at ranges up to 100 yards – with 2″ .38s.
I have personally witnessed a shooter using a 2” J-Frame S&W to hit repeatedly the A-zone of a standard IPSC target at 100m.
Standing, two-hand hold.
My favorite bedtime poem:
NOW I lay me down to sleep
Beside my bed a gun I keep
If I awake and find you inside
The Coroner’s van will be your last ride.
Have to call bullshit RM3(SS). I was stationed at Hickam in 72′ and as a former Air Policeman I would have noticed the gate folks wearing anything like you described. They took away our 45’s and gave us S&W combat masterpieces. I liked them enough to buy one in 75′ in Germany. There were some quick draw assholes who shot other assholes, usually on the boring midnight shift, and the 38’s contributed more to that than the 45’s.
Well CM, it is a distinct memory of mine, and I used to remark on it to my then wife. But who knows, maybe I’m just making it up.
🙂
@rgr769- My first wheel gun I was issued when I went to work for Brink’s back in 1970 was the S&W Mod. 10 .38/bull barrel. Some had .38 Colt Police positive .38’s/pencil barrels. Wasn’t until 9/11 that we switched over to the S&W 4046’s (.40) In between those years, S&W Mod 60 series were issued that were Stainless and hammerless. After I retired back in 2007, I heard that they switched over to one of the S&W M&P .40 models.
Same here, my department issued S&W Mod. 10’s, with the bull barrel. The detectives got .38 S&W snub nosed revolvers. As the range Sgt said, if the detectives practiced, a lot, they might be able to hit the backstop at 25 yards.
Then, in 1990, we switched to the Sig P226 in .40S&W. Strange, I shot expert with that the first time, I’d only gotten to expert with lots of practice with the wheel gun.
Now now now. Don’t go besmirching the .38 special.
I was a staff toad at Langley when Desert Shield/Desert Storm kicked off. I was sent over as an augmentee. I caught a BWACS out of Tinker that took me back to Langley and then to Zaragosa Spain where we did a bag drag to another BWACS that took us to Riyadh.
By the time I deployed I had been on Staff for 4 years. Needless to say I hadn’t kept all my mobility stuff up to date. The day in early Jan when I got 4 shots 2 in the left arm, one in the right and one in the right cheek, I didn’t care if Saddam pulled out of Kuwait by the deadline he was going to have to pay for my discomfort.
When I got to Tinker I was asked if I had a weapon. I sort of lied and said no. The truth being I hadn’t qualed with a weapon in five years before my remote in Korea. However, I had my personal 9mm in a shoulder holster with 3 full mags rolled up in my sleeping bag.
The next day as we stepped to the jet, the young airman hunted me down and handed me a S&W Model 15 sealed in a mylar bag and 18 loose rounds of .38 ammo. Upon arriving in Riyadh and realizing my need for the 38 was ridiculous (no holster and 18 rounds in a box with Kleenex to keep them from rolling around I found a place to turn in my weapon. I kept the ammo as a souvenir.
Besides I had my 9mm if things got ugly.
Someday I’ll tell the story of what happened when someone got the idea to selectively arm aircrew transitting from Eskan to Riyadh AB a couple days after Khobar Towers
USAFRetired,
I would love to hear that story. I arrived in country (Saudi) one day AFTER Khobar Towers. I really feel like, with God’s helping Hand, I dodged a bullet. For what purpose, I know not yet.
I know the purpose! God is merciful and he gave you more time to find his son Jesus before you cash in…..take advantage of his mercy and seek Jesus!! God Bless You!
Army Aviators were issued revolvers up until the M9 came out. my aviator friend (well, no aviator is really a friend) told me they had revolvers because they could be carried inthe aircraft r in a ‘Red’ status- round in the chamber, with a lower chance of an AD, allowing injured pilots to place it into operation with one hand (no slide to work) after a crash.
Made sense to me, although i was happy to have my newly issued M16A2.
AF is not a real Military service! (Said in Jest all the Zoomies out there) Remember the old joke:
Two kids are talking and one says to the other:
Kid 1: My dad says there are only two branches of the Military.
Kid 2: Wait! There are 4 aren’t there?
Kid 1: Nope, only the Army and the Navy. Because the Air Force is a Corporation and the Marine Corps is a Cult.
“The Marine Corps is a Cult.”
Hellz yeah, and fukking proud of it!
It is the only cult I strongly support.
I think thats backwards, the air farce is a cult and the army is a corporation! that leaves 3 branches, Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard! 😉
Retired Gen. McPeak sure thought the AF was a corporation! We went from having dress uniforms that went from looking somewhat military to what I consider a uniform suit jacket and pants/skirt. I truly wish we never would have gone away from the old dress blues. He even wanted us to be run like a corporation. DAMF.
During the McPeak era I was TDY to the Pentagon and was in an office near the purple water fountain.
Someone had a double frame with the official portraits of Curtis Lemay on the left and McPeak on the right.
The caption under Lemay read…
This Man had Vision
Under McPeak it read…
This Man Sees Things.
Does anyone remember playing Air Force as a kid? Me neither.
I would get excited about it because she is again moving the gun ownership issue from the political to the medical area. Stand by for ownership questions during physicals, checkups, etc. Especially in the VA system.
Every time I go for my annual “wellness” visit to my doc, I am asked if I have guns in the home. The first time I said, “none of your business,” but that was not an acceptable answer. So now I just say “no.” They seem to like that answer; and when I actually see the doc, there is no interrogation.
Never understood why they started asking that. What does the mere presence of a gun mean? I’ve been bit pretty badly by dogs and less badly by cats. They don’t inquire to my pet ownership as a question of a “safe” home environment. In fact, been my experience that my dog is more likely to bite me than my gun is to shoot me.
I have also been bit by dogs, once severely by my son’s Rottweiler, and other critters, but never shot. Inanimate objects don’t ever seem to be aggressive of their own accord. My horse has sent me to the emergency room twice with a dislocated shoulder. Makes one wonder why the medicos never ask about animal hazards. They seem to be a much more common hazard than firearms.
(Cont’d) I say VA because this topic tends to bleed over from the MHS to the VA system. Note that you can now log into the VA MyhealtheVet system from MHS. And middle and senior management tend to attend the same conferences, drink-a-thons, etc.
Ever since the CDC declared gun violence a disease the healthcare sector has become rabid anti second amendment. Ever been asked if you keep a gun in the house during a medical exam?
The Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine,
the freakin AMA. They all drink Koolaid.
Even in Texas too many medical facilities declare themselves target-rich zones.
I have no choice when it comes to getting good healthcare for my brother, but it does impinge itself on my awareness.
When my doc convinces me she knows more about guns than I do, she can ask me about ’em. Otherwise she just does the doctoring.
I love my Doc because we’ve been going to him for a quarter century, and I really trust his judgment medically.
He has never asked about gun ownership, nor has his office. We are in Texas, after all. I suspect that some of these posted medical facilities are more because of some libtard insurer than the Texas doctors.
I’ve not been to the offices of my grandchildren’s doctor to know if it is legally proclaimed a no-gun zone, but I know he shoots, and shoots well.
I remember my doc asked to borrow some .223 ammo a few years ago because he didn’t have a chance to find any for his groundhog hunting trip
Why only during medical exams? 😉
People like Dean Winslow are one reason why I own firearms.
Yeah, he will be one of the medical professionals that will go along with the government sending anyone with conservative political views to a mental facility or the re-education camps to correct our wrong thinking disorder. Progtardism has seriously infected the medical profession.
Was he accompanied to his hearing by his emotional support dog? He was previously fired from his job as a chair of medicine at Valley Medical Center in Santa Clara county because, among other things, he complained that physicians were burdened by having to see 20 patients a day. He sued the county for wrongful termination and won $1.4 million from the taxpayers.
So you’re saying he is a slow, wussy crybaby in more than one way?
Used to me, now he is just another worthless PRICK!
We should find out who in the Trump administration thought this douche should get the appointment for which he is seeking confirmation–especially, in light of your info above.
Yup. Be funny for the Republicans to vote against confirmation and the Dems for it.
Yes.
You can always send an email to your congress people and tell them NOT to endorse the dirt bag!
If the gentleman doesn’t have the good sense to keep his opinions to himself in a hearing on something which is outside the scope of this prospective office, he doesn’t need to have the job.
Must be an Obama acolyte.
Look at this cocksucker attention whore!!!! This is sickening to watch. What the hell is happening with these self neutering “men” in our country. I hope you all have a strong stomach because this will make the hardest of veterans cry….
https://youtu.be/RiKonOx7Hng
What a candy-assed douche.. F him, but to be honest, i’m glad he did get rid of his, if he’s posing in the mirror, he shouldn’t own them!
He became connected to the weapons through video games. What a fucking beta male.
I gots connected to my 5.56 at age 17 at Benning boys camp.
He probably barely put a few rounds through any of these. I hope nobody breaks into his house in the near future and he finds himself wishing he had that Glock 19. Then again he probably never fired that weapon either.
He would have never done this in private. He did it as an attention whore.
He would piss himself and forget how to use the weapon, have it taken away from him and quite possibly used on himself…
Darwin wins again…….
This^^^! World class douchey attention whore. I wonder if what he did was cut up a some airsoft guns instead of several grand worth of guns. What a pussie (I thought the feminine form of that noun is appropriate for this guy. My first personal 5.56mm was the XM177 I was issued in the Viet of the Nam, but was also trained on the M-16 at the Benning School for wayward boys. This pajama boy should get in touch with Kuntzman, they can do some video gaming.
I notice U-tube disabled the comments on his video. These bytches can’t stand any blowback whatever.
I called him out on his comment that “everyone who has used one of these had stood in front of the mirror blah blah” comment. I told him it was an insult to those who have an attachment to it via serving their country. It was harsh. And like a good pussy liberal, he disabled the comments before his beta make pack saw the comments. He thought he would get praise – his original and only goal for doing this!
Okay, I finally made myself sit through the entire video, he says he spent about $3K on those firearms he destroyed, but guess what? He’s out $3K and the manufacturers WILL MAKE MORE.
Do you like his metrosexual accent?
THAT made me want to stick a feather up his ass and use him as a dart!
Holy shit. I was ducking and bobing and weaving while he was playing with that Glock. I left the room until he put it down.
Guy is dangerous. Even with a chop saw.
THAT shit-for-brained candyassed cockwad pisspants Sparkle Pony of a toad turd didn’t even bother to return the charging handle forward when he locked the bolt open, is he even capable of wielding an Airsoft rifle? Someone ought to stick a feather up that pencilneck’s ass and use him for a dart!
JESUS H. Christ on a bamboo raft, does one have to prove themselves to be a certain degree of neutered milquetoast wussnoramous beta-type candyassed pus-nuts Sparkle Pony in order to get appointed to a position like that? What a damned waste of flesh and oxygen!
From the last Colonel’s decision on things it seems that the USAF has a lot of housecleaning to do.
The state of this country has truly gone to hell in a handbasket…
DITTO that, the previous administration did all it could to chase the capable Warfighters out and replace them with Brony Sparkle Ponies like Dean Winslow.
My impression of Mr. Winslow (and that silly political animal Shaheen) is that they all think someone actually wants to shoot them, hence the “insane gun ownership” hogwash.
The real problem in this is that their paranoia about it obscures the fact that not one of them is worth the cost of a bullet.
OK, let’s apply the same twisted “logic” to others things which are not addressed by the US Constitution: Cars, shovels, inoculations, airplanes, concrete, electricity, computers, buggy whips, indoor plumbing, and a host of other things which should be eliminated from our society. Ya know, because they weren’t available in the 1700’s or weren’t mentioned. (Forget for the moment that the US Constitution is pretty clear that what it does not address is up to the states to regulate, or not.)
Do these clowns who want to tinker with the 2nd A feel just as cavalierly about the rest of the Bill of Rights? Do they understand that it is a package deal? They are equally important. Really, they are.
Mess with one, you mess with all. They conveniently seem to forget that little detail.
I would strongly suggest contacting your Senators and ask them to oppose Winslow if you think he is an idiot.