Newsweek: Trump Effect Inspires Radical Christians in Military

| May 24, 2017

The latest way to besmirch the nearly unblemished reputation of the American military is presented in the pages of Newsweek which screams from the rooftops that “Trump Effect Inspires Radical Christians in Military“. Their source? You guessed it – anti-Christian jihadist Mikey Weinstein of the misnamed Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).

Many of the recent charges are coming from members of minority religions, including Roman Catholics, Jews and Muslims, and from atheists. Among the complaints: military family and marital therapy programs are being infused with Protestant Christianity, which would violate the U.S. Constitution; open anti-Semitism; anti-LGBT statements, posters, symbols and bullying; openly anti-Muslim teachers and Islamophobic attacks; a rise in on-base evangelizing; and increased pressure on recruits or lower-level personnel and service members to convert to fundamentalist Christianity.

“With the advent of Trump as the commander in chief of our armed forces, MRFF has experienced a massive influx of new military and civilian personnel complaints of religion-based prejudice and bigotry, most of them coming from non-fundamentalist Christians being persecuted by their military superiors for not being ‘Christian enough,’” Weinstein tells Newsweek.

I’ll remind readers that what would violate the 1st Amendment is the occurrence of Congress passing a law which makes any religion our national religion. The First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof….” Has anyone heard of that happening? I haven’t.

The MRFF estimates that 84 percent of military chaplains are evangelicals, and about a third of them are fundamentalists, defined by the MRFF as Christians who have decided that their evangelizing and proselytizing need not conform to the U.S. Constitution, case law or any DoD directives restricting their behavior.

The Christian right’s willingness to see Trump as a savior for their cause—if not a messianic figure, despite his living as an urban libertine who has had three wives and a history of lewd acts and statements—continues to grow. His selection of an evangelical as vice president, plus the appointment of at least nine evangelicals to his Cabinet, has apparently soothed any concerns the religious right had about his personal life.

I estimate that 99% of Mikey’s constituency are whiny little crybabies who fall for his shtick because they misread one line of the Constitution. If Trump is the problem, why were we treated to Mikey’s antics through the Obama years?

Weinstein also shared with Newsweek dozens of hate-filled emails directed to him from former and current service members, stating that they pray for his death and eternal life in hell. He says small victories like the one involving the Strong Bonds program last week can’t keep up with the changed tone at the top, and its effect on behavior in the middle and lower ranks among the fundamentalists in the military community.

“The reality of Trump being commander in chief has unleashed a raging battle cry along the lines of ‘There’s a new sheriff in town, and he loves white, male, straight, Christian fundamentalists one hell of a lot more than anyone else,’” Weinstein says. “The fundamentalist/Dominionist bullies have been emboldened by Trump’s own bigotry and that of his henchmen to such a profound degree that MRFF considers the dire situation to be nothing less than a full-fledged national security threat to our country.”

Did that hate mail begin on January 20th? I suspect that he has been getting hate mail since he founded his little band of uneducated butt-hurt snowflakes in 2005. His incessant bleating about Christians taking over the world has no basis in reality – he’s only doing it to line his pockets and avoid getting a real job. He’s this century’s Morris Dees fabricating a crisis where none exists in order to fleece Liberals.

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Graybeard

I suspect something deep inside is bothering Mikey Weinstein…

the fear that maybe, just maybe, the Christians are right. And he cannot handle that possibility rationally.

Sea Dragon

MRFF = REMF?

rgr769

I’ve forgotten. What is the military background of this perpetually butt-hurt mangina-boi?

Hondo

More like FLMF, IMO – FreeLoading MF.

And no, Whinestein – I don’t buy that “105 hours worked per week” claim on your “charity’s” IRS paperwork from a few years ago.

But hey – I understand that a salary of around $300k per year, plus perks, can convince some folks to sell their integrity.

USAF E-5

You know what bothered me more? The Federal Grant Money. “Make no laws regarding the establishment of religion.” If Atheism isn’t a religion (i.e. belief structure,) then what the hell is it exactly?

Graybeard

+100^7G

desert

Atheism is a group of mentally deficient morons that badmouth that which they say doesn’t exist! brilliant huh?

Dolch Mann

atheism: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color, like air is a new flavor of ice cream at Baskin- Robbins, like barefoot is a new shoe style. A step up from being atheist is being an Antitheist, the idea that the best god myths are dead god myths, dumped into the waste bin of failed deity delusions. I have nothing against any believer, but if you are in Service to the Nation, be it a politician’s staffer, or an E1 Grunt, pray to your deity on your own time, on your own time, with your own kind.

Dolch Mann

2nd “On your own time” should be “On your own DIME”.

T1B

FWIW, in Indiana “bald” is a hair color on a driver’s license.

2/17 Air Cav

“”but if you are in Service to the Nation, be it a politician’s staffer, or an E1 Grunt….” Dolce Mann will probably be upset to read this, but there is an Office of the Chaplain in the US House of Representatives. There is prayer and, during the business day, the Office of the Chaplain offers Bible study, Torah study, and, in the Congressional Prayer Room (!), a Rosary Group, among many other religious-based meetings.

Graybeard

Now ya’ done gone and made his head ‘splode, 2/17.

Dolch Mann

nah, not at all. y’all are free to believe whatever you want, in private. But The Establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution is quite clear, as were the sentiments of the Founding Fathers. The higher the wall between church and State, the purer both shall remain (paraphrased). As far as chaplains in the military; there is a long history of them in all services of all nations throughout history. They were not there to promulgate a deity, they were there to tell the faithful that it was OK to go out and kill, and that their deity was behind them 100%, so that took the onus off the soldiers, who then joyfully went about their business and stabbed, slashed, pierced, shot, blew up and nuked their adversaries without fear for their platonic inspired “immortal” souls (in direct contrast to the bible verse which states ‘the soul that sinneth, it shall die). If the military, congress and senate wish to continually violate the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment, & cherry pick from their respective versions of the unchanging word of their deity, they can go right ahead. One day their bronze age beliefs will be supplanted by another system, or better yet, no religion in government at all, the way it should be, and one day will be. And, oh yes, I did serve, and have all the injuries and residuals of those injuries to prove it.

MSG Eric

Anything to keep his 200 grand a year salary rolling in, right? Not including all of the “administrative and travel expenses” of course.

Martinjmpr

Specific examples or it didn’t happen.

Anymore these days, “Anti-[insert name of victim group here]” simply means “I saw or heard something that hurt my feelers, now give me some cash.”

Specific, concrete examples or STFU, Weinstein.

Sonny's Mom

“Weinstein has stated that at the Academy he encountered a string of incidents of psychological harassment, including notes emblazoned with swastikas and anti-Semitic slurs, death threats, and two violent incidents of hazing where he was ambushed, beaten, and, in one case, hospitalized.” (Wikipedia)

And under HIPAA rules… no proof he was ever treated for any injuries.

A Proud Infidel®™

Thus my response to WHINEstein’s claims is:

*BULLSHIT ALERT!*
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NEC338x

Yet he writes for Newsweek, who improperly accused a fellow person of Jewish heritage (Adm Boorda) of improperly wearing a Vietnam decoration.

I would imagine the right honourable special snowflake, Mr Weinstein, would have sublimated had he experienced what Adm Rickover experienced in his Academy days.

Bah! Excuses!

26Limabeans

That photo is the face of “contempt”.

A Proud Infidel®™

He must go through life with at least a dozen and a half corncobs up his ass all at the same time.

The Other Whitey

“Minority religion?” I’m a Roman Catholic and we ain’t exactly rare or hard to find anywhere in America, including Hawaii and Utah. Mikey Douchestain DOES NOT represent Catholics. He conveniently leaves out the part where we are not only Christians (who he irrationally hates), we are in fact the largest Christian sect in the world.

Like Vizzini, keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Fuck you, Mikey, and the 7-digit salary you take in as the sole employee of your “non-profit” (my Black Irish ass! ) organization.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Mikey represents Mikey… and he’s so full of butthurt that he has to make himself an attention whore.

luddite4change

I remember reading a DOD/Army demographic report a few years ago that Catholics were actually over represented as a percentage of population in the military. And that the skew got greater the higher the rank on the officer side.

He’s just looking for more cash. I believe John had a report on MRFF tax filing a few years back showing how much ended up in Mikey’s wallet.

FuzeVT

When I was at 2d Bn, 10th Marines, we seemed to have a lock on the senior leadership. I was an Lt in one of the batteries, but we had the CO, XO, Opso, and a battery commander or two. Plus we had a Catholic chaplain. I guess folks like Mikey think we probably had some sort of Catholic indoctrination camp or something to force people to adopt our “minority religion” of 1.2 billion.

For the record, we didn’t.

IDC SARC

If it pisses off Mikey Whinestein:

a.) It’s actually something good.

or

b.) It’s something that is completely false.

Dave Hardin

Atheist and many so called Free Thinker blogs have been running their version of this as well.

Weinstein gets attention for making embellished statements. Attention brings him more donations.

Talking any sense on the issue with rabid zombies from both sides is frustrating. Pence has had an actual history of over reaching with his political policies concerning religion. It does concern me.

People like Mikey Weinstein who trump up hysterical and embellished threats coming from the “Dominionist” forces all around us, do far more harm than any good.

Like the “Never Trump” camp keeps screaming about every little insignificant detail our President does has just muted any real concerns into the rest of their white noise.

They just don’t get that Trump won this election because of their constant nonsense. Most Americans could give a shit less what they think.

In a recent President Bush interview he made the comment to a reporter “Back when I was President what you said was important”. It no longer is and people like Mikey are the reason.

God Bless each and every one of you…see I didn’t even burst into flames or anything.

Where is Benjamin Sisko when we need him?

The Other Whitey

Well said, Dave. God bless you, too–hey, you still didn’t burst into flames!

David

“making embillished statements” – politely understating “he lies like a rug on the floor”

11B-Mailclerk

“White noise”…

That’s Raaaaaacist!

HMCS(FMF) ret

Mikey is so full of asshurt…

Ex-PH2

He has Catholics as a minority? Since when is a religion with a worldwide populatio of 1.4 billion a minority?

Yeah, he’s just looking for cash again – cash, and a wider audience. Then he can get a raise.

Graybeard

He only knows of a handful that he has ever met. Therefore they must be a minority, correct?

Ex-PH2

I follow your line of thought, Graybeard, and it makes sense in proportionate amounts to his greed and intentional stupidity.

Graybeard

I understand that this is, in part, behind the perspective of the Hollywood/East Coast types who know only those who share the same worldview and experience base as they do, and conclude that all rational people share that worldview and experience base.

What they do not realize is just how parochial they are when they think they have broad experience.

As a former CPO friend of mine use to say, there is a difference between having 10 years experience, and one year of experience 10 times. Having the same experiences in NYC, LA, and London does not mean one is broadly experienced.

MSG Eric

Actually, according to 2012 statistics, Christianity is at 2.3 billion people.

Muslim is at 1.8 Billion and Hindu is 1.1 billion.

Fairly interesting that Jews are at such a low population, but tend to piss off and hold up so well against hundreds of millions in countries that want to end them.

The world is a religious place and people like Mikey need to just accept that and get over it. But his followers who keep spewing money for him are the real problem. He’s a troll that they keep functional. Go get a real job Mikey and fuck off.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/05/christians-remain-worlds-largest-religious-group-but-they-are-declining-in-europe/

Ex-PH2

Well, but, Christianity is broken out into various sects and divisions, and Catholocism has the highest population demographic. After that, it’s Anglicans/Episcopal, and then all the other sects/divisions beyond that.

Dave Hardin

I’ll just leave this here for you

Graybeard

Living dangerously there, aren’t you?

Dave Hardin

Ahh, she won’t read it until she sobers up. That probably wont be until friday just before WOT.

Graybeard

SNORT!

Dave Hardin

I keep sending the same message to the MRFF over and over again. One would think they would take a hint by now. I have provided a link to my sentiments for the curious.

DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK, IT CONTAINS A RATHER SUCCINCT VERSION OF MY THOUGHTS IN PERPETUITY. YOU, THOSE AROUND YOU AND ANYONE THAT MAY LOOK LIKE YOU COULD BE OFFENDED.

http://73.180.71.88/webstuff/perpetual.gif

Ex-PH2

Why do you say ‘do not click’ when you know that’s clicbait?

Dave Hardin

I do that in case one of our readers works at a Convent for Our Sisters of Busted Knuckles.

Of course they will click on it…but they know better than to do it when Sister Mary Guacamole is standing over their shoulder. Or, perhaps when Nurse Ratched was watching.

Perry Gaskill

When you’re the Bull Goose Looney, it doesn’t matter if Nurse Ratched is watching or not, Dave…

OWB

Is even one assertion by either Newsweek or Mikey correct?

rgr769

Newsweek has become nothing but a propaganda progtard rag. I guess they are now combining their antimilitary lies with atheism to compete with that other progtard propaganda rag, Time Magazine.

Bill M

Is Newsweak even still a thing?

Old Trooper

I can’t believe that little whine-tit Weinstein was ever in the military. Jeebus, he’s a whiney little bitch.

Sack up, pussy

MSG Eric

Well, he was in the Air Force. So, barely.

Wilcox

“massive influx of new military and civilian personnel complaints of religion-based prejudice and bigotry”.

Wish he would put a number on “massive influx”. Is it like 6, up from 3? 200% increase there, huh?

Atkron

Jesus still loves you Mikey…but I say Fuck Off!

HMC Ret

There are some who justify their existence by being a professional victim. Whine Stain is one of them.

Hack Stone

Where was this guy when I was a Corporal and a few Sergeants in my platoon were trying recruit me into their cult. You may have heard of this cult, it goes by the name of AMWAY.

Dave Hardin

Oh no…not the invite to the Amway meeting. Sat through about half of one 30 years ago. Spousal unit thought it would be nice to mingle.

Evidently, I don’t mingle so good.

Hack Stone

Sgt Z: Cpl Stone, what are you doing tonight?

Cpl Stone: Nothing planned.

Sgt Z: Why don’t you come on over and we’ll have some beers.

Arrive at Sgt Z’s base housing unit, he is wearing a 3 piece suit, and has his pointer and flip charts set up. The things that I have put up with just to get a cold Michelob. That may be why I haven’t had a Michelob in decades.

Graybeard

My spousal unit is in complete agreement with me that things such as AMWAY meetings are a complete waste of time – and those that try to bring ‘friends’ into the cult are not friends.

A Proud Infidel®™

In my bachelor days I always saw an Amway meeting as THE PERFECT way to get rid of an over-clingy girlfriend.

AW1Ed

Perpetually Offended Clown is perpetually offended.

Surprising exactly nobody.

Dave Hardin

Stop txting freaky shit to my phone or I will give EX-PH2 your number. She can tell you all about her Hobby Horse at 3am. I could tell you the secret to what you seek grasshopper, but then…you know.

AW1Ed

Don’t let me get between you and the Hobby horse!

Whatever floats yer boat, Dave.

*grin*

Ex-PH2

I don’t want a phone number for either of you blowhard, mordant, cake frosting-licking codpiece sniffers.

USAFRetired

My favorite graduate of the US Naval Academy had this to say”

“History does not record anywhere or at anytime a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it.”

At one time in life I believed in a Supreme being I just happened to believe it was me.

Being a bit of a pragmatist I kind of like the idea of believing in God and it turning out I was mistaken than not believing in God and finding out I was mistaken.

Now I wish this snake oil salesman would stop trying to impose his views on me.

Josnik

I’m Jewish and I haven’t seen this new wave of “radical Christianity” since Trump has come into office. Then again, I don’t go around looking for reasons to be offended, so perhaps I’m the wrong guy to ask.

In the Army anyway, the cultural inertia seems the same as it ever was; the percentage of practicing Christians is dropping, and there is a concerted effort to encourage diversity, inclusiveness, and divest the Army from religion (with the exception of the Chaplain’s invocation prior to whatever ceremony). In other words, I see the exact opposite scenario this charlatan is pushing; he couldn’t be more wrong.

In fact, I’ve actually seen a lot more soldiers speaking out against the President than I’ve ever seen before. I may not be completely enamored of this administration, but you won’t hear me voice those opinions publicly in uniform.

Mike W.

F*** this idiot from the MRFF.
It is EASY to find out the correct breakdown of Chaplains in the Army or ANY branch of service. ASK them ! Duh.
Like my job, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, I believe they have “contract” religious people coming onto base to conduct services but those people DO NOT DEPLOY and are based on the NEEDS of the base. They aren’t MILITARY chaplains, just people from different religions serving the military on bases.

Joe

“…fabricating a crisis where none exists…” Yeah right, I suppose that’s why he continues to get contacted non-stop and anonymously by hundreds of service members fearing for their careers because of religious persecution. Knowing some smug and irrational Air Force christian dominionist wing nuts anxiously awaiting the rapture (who worked on H-bombs no less – scary s**t) I understand why we need guys like Mikey to keep up the good fight. Keep up the good work Mikey!

IDC SARC

“he continues to get contacted non-stop and anonymously by hundreds of service members fearing for their careers because of religious persecution.”

Yeah….that sounds about as valid as my Federal time card. 🙂

Ex-PH2

And you have personal knowledge of these contacts, Joey?
How is that so? Is Mikey Whineystein one of your besties?
You’ll have to prove you know anyone in the USAF now, especially anyone who handles or has access to nukes of any kind.
Thanks for proving yourself to be another mumbling, stumbling, rambling babbler whose only purpose is to let us know how completely narrow-minded and uninformed you are.

Joe

“You’ll have to prove you know anyone in the USAF now, especially anyone who handles or has access to nukes of any kind.” Thankfully, they’ve retired, but a whole new crop of christian fundamentalist wing nuts has moved up to take their place. What is it about the air force anyway that seems to select for these religious nut jobs anyway?

HMCS(FMF) ret

Take the dick out of your mouth, Joe Nutsack. We can’t understand you and your drivel.

IDC SARC

LOL….anybody else get a vision of the Monty Python, Holy Hand Grenade skit?

2/17 Air Cav

In 2009, Newsweek responded to some POS’s election with an article entitled, “We Are All Socialists Now.” I don’t read that rag but I’m wondering if Newsweek had a piece entitled “We Are All Capitalists Now” following Trump’s victory.