7 CPOs punished on USS HUE CITY
Bobo sends us a link to the Navy Times which reports that seven, count ’em, seven, chief petty officers were punished for dipping their pens in the ship’s ink;
Seven chief petty officers on Hue City were punished by their commanding officer, six in relation to adulterous affairs, according to a written statement from Naval Surface Force Atlantic.
Capt. Daniel Gillen, Hue City’s skipper, conducted non-judicial punishment proceedings for six chiefs, two of whom were involved in separate adulterous affairs with a junior sailor. Those chiefs were found guilty of fraternization and adultery at captain’s mast after an investigation substantiated the allegations, the statement said.
Four other chiefs were punished for having knowledge of the affairs but not coming forward with information.
“The four other Chiefs with direct knowledge of the relationship were found to be in violation of Article 92 (Failure to Report Fraternization Offense),” the statement said.
They’re lucky they aren’t flag officers or they might have had their wrists slapped. By the way, who could have guessed this would happen if they put boys and girls together on a boat for months at a time? Certainly not me.
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I wonder if they dipped in the same inkwell?
It is still a good rule of thumb: keep your pecker in your pants unless she is your wife.
A lot of sad stories could be avoided that way.
Think they shared the same Inkwell?
Always that possibility…….
No mention of that sailor being punished.
“That sailor” is awaiting Captains Mast (NJP) as well.
One, repeat, one female petty officer is awaiting mast for the same, or similar, thing. My assumption based on that is that there was sharing going on.
My question is- was there a monetary exchange for services rendered?
From another report read elsewhere, it made it sound like it was the same female junior enlisted member.
Peter, my Bubblehead bud says GO 13 (see below) was a surface thing. You guys had deployment socks. Hmmm
I was onboard a CG recently, and stopped by the CPO mess to talk to one of my boys. I was drinking a cup of coffee and talking to the 3MC when one of the female Chiefs went into a pornographic rant about some of the people in her division, which I found odd but it was inside the mess so I left it there. When I exited the mess, a male Senior Chief was grab assing a female Chief in the p-way in front of other sailors. In an attempt to correct that situation, the offenders looked at me like I was some kind of church marm prude. It’s a different navy, that’s for sure.
This is the opposite of mooslimes…there the woman is guilty and the men innocent, here the men are guilty and the woman innocent….where in hell is the name and disciplinary report on the whore…oh? not a whore…..SEVEN CHIEFS??
FFS
Not that this makes much difference but…..(1) was busted for drunk & disorderly and disrespecting an officer during a previous port visit. Directly related offenses: (2) were busted for fraternization and adultery and the remaining (4) were nailed for failure to report the fraternization. (Art. 92).
Overall, a total failure at an epic level. Men and women have been on ships for a VERY long time and this sort of behavior isn’t new IMHO, just the reporting of it and I’m not talking about the news rags, online or in-print, that are disseminating the info to the public.
Other mess members will know exactly what I’m talking about.
Somehow, not being attuned to Navy technical jargon like I am, mess members sounds like a fitting description of the morass these seven find themselves in…
I’m guessing it’s a reference to the Chiefs’ Mess. (Trying to learn the Navy lingo. . .)
Correct Top down failure. Good looking out for a Brother Hey!!
I know the Chiefs that worked for me understood unequivocally that BS like that was “No Joy”, and was a signaled for open season on scalps.
Where was The Master Chief? Where was the rest of the Mess? This shit is no secret.
Death to E7’s.
How long have male and female sailors served together on ships? I was under the impression this was a recent “innovation” of the social justice warriors
Men and women HAVE NOT BEEN ON SHIPS FOR A LONG TIME! No women on the ship I was on in 1959/1960!!!
I remember not very long ago the “growing pains” that a newly commissioned DDG homeported in Pearl (1998’ish)with an integrated crew experienced. Senior enlisted messing around with junior officers, junior enlisted with senior enlisted (blue shirts & khaki)and the whole debacle peaked with the Command Master Chief (CSM for my Army pals) getting busted for hosting parties at his on-base residence with junior enlisted females from the same command.
Order of magnitude sets this case apart and that’s it.
I remember hearing about that. I was in Hawaii in the 90s and that was big news.
And because some just don’t learn and don’t take the hint, a couple years after I got to Bragg, a field grade officer (O4 or O5) was busted for throwing similar parties and there was boot knocking going on there between various ranks of personnel too.
Having been around new 18-21 year old Army females for 4 years of my career, I feel very proud of the fact I never dipped my pen in anything and was never investigated or had anyone even wonder if I was doing something improper. I shouldn’t because that is how it is supposed to be, but stories like this make me feel good I never did, as strange as that sounds.
For the 1 story you do hear about, there are 10+ others that you don’t hear about.
^^This^^
Crom blessed me with a USMC career that, other than two tours with the (all Male recruit and DI ) MCRD San Diego Recruit Training Regiment was spent in Artillery Firing Batteries or Infantry Companies.
I had a 6 month stint just prior to retirement with a Headquarters Company that had Females. Other than read them their rights prior to NJP I never had to deal with the wayward female of the USMC species.
This has been going on for 30yrs and more since men and women were integrated. I remember a number of NCO’s living with those under them when I was in. No-one thought much about it as long as he/she was not in the direct chain of command and were in different platoon’s.
What about the women? Were they punished? No mention of one complaining about getting some dick. Any special favors extended to any of them?
I changed rank 11 times, not always in the same direction. One more NJP in my record to get laid would have been fine by me.
Being the pig that I am, I assume these were men and women. I could be wrong.
General Order 13 for Haze Grey and Underway Operations has been around for a long time. It goes as follows:
“Its not gay if you are underway, but its kinda queer if you are at the pier.”
I keep telling people the problem aboard ship are the Fan Rooms. Gone are the days when Deck Apes could relieve some frustration on a Twidget. Are there female Hole Snipes yet? After 7 or 8 months at sea Hole Snipes are barely human. I think they restrict them to ship as a matter of public safety.
Sex in the Old Goats Locker is a new thing…involving woman anyway. It used to be midget porn and Busty Babes doing pudding fights on TV 24/7.
I said from the beginning of all this bullshit that taking down the HOG BOARDS was not going to end well. Gone are the days when a man could take pride in knowing his loved one was voted HOG OF THE WEEK.
GO 13 is hilarious.
Define pse: Twidget; Hole Snipes;Old Goats Locker;
Twidget = Electronics Technician
Hole Snipes = Machinist’s Mates
Goat Locker = Any naval vessel of sufficient size has a room or rooms that are off-limits to anyone not a chief (including commissioned officers), except by specific invitation. In naval jargon, this room is called the Chief’s Mess, or tongue in cheek, the “goat locker”.
Twidgets are nerds that play with gizmos. They usually stay in the upper decks.
Hole Snipes are the creatures that live in the bowels of the ship. Bilge rats, Boiler Techs, they live in a world without daylight and you only see them in the upper decks during Mid Rats.
I talked to one once, it make strange grunting noises and scurried away. I think they communicate on some kind of primitive level.
The Old Goats Locker is Off Limits. Not because there is some privilege to being in it, because its occupied by people that are not friendly. Some LtJG knocked on the hatch once…I hear he is doing much better these days.
Having been a snipe for a short time, their communication comes in the form of hand signals lol…thats because the boilerrooms are so loud you can’t hear and we all come up needing hearing aids!
“Sex in the Old Goats Locker is a new thing…involving woman anyway. It used to be midget porn and Busty Babes doing pudding fights on TV 24/7.”
“Barnyard Follies” and “Gang Bang Face Bath”… don’t know nothing about that stuff, Dave… only “heard” rumors…RUMORS!
I was on a cruise with the 11th MEU one year and Barnyard Follies was playing on the way out to sea before we even passed completely under the Coronado bridge.
Good god I had thankfully forgotten “Barnyard Follies”…first time I saw that was on a Med cruise around 1979.
How many times did y’all watch “The Devil and Miss Jones”?
“What about the women?” Who said any women were involved? This is Navy 2017.
Why did you add the year?
Good question. I retract that.
Because he missed the slash by three rows.
My wife and I did not write much when I was deployed. When I did write to her it was usually something like this:
“Hey, running out of cash. Playing spades to pay for Gedunk but I need dip and cigarettes. Send pictures and tell the neighbor to cut the grass and replace my fucking beer when he gets done taking them.
The Driftwood sent an invoice for some kind of damage. If you are dancing again tell your dad to calm down. Tell the little bastards that I miss them and write a list of reasons I should beat their ass so I can blackmail the little shits.
Oh, and take a break from sulking about because you miss me long enough to get my hunting license renewed. I got a hunting trip planned the day after I get back.
Forever yours ”
Love is a wonderful thing
The Driftwood!!!
One step up (a very short one) from the Brown Bagger.
Apparently the junior enlisted member involved is also getting NJP. Near as I can tell from the article, 2 “chiefs” were banging the same sailor and four knew about it and looked the other way. The seventh “chief” wasn’t involved, but was caught drunk and disorderly and disrespecting an officer.
I just read the article at the link… looks like a total fucking mess that hit 1/4 of the CPO Mess on the ship:
Two for the affair
Four for failing to report it
One for drunk and disorderly conduct toward an Officer
The Junior Enlisted is also facing Mast… that’s got to be a first.
I’m wondering how many of the E-7’s went through “initiation” and how many are of the recently uninitiated E-7’s. The seven should just put in their papers to retire, no stars in their future…
Yes, the junior enlisted getting masted is an anomaly.
As far as the E-7’s and initiation go, that’s a really good question, Doc. I’ve seen that question posed on a few other venues and was silently wondering the very same thing.
“Yes, the junior enlisted getting masted is an anomaly.”
Why? If “masted” is Art 15, the Army does it all the time for all grades. Maybe Masted is something else?
Art. 15 and Captains Mast (aka: “Masted”, getting Masted, going before the Mast)) are the same thing, NJP.
It’s not been the norm in the Navy that the “other side”, being the junior, in a case of senior enlisted (E-7 to E-9) fraternization gets his/her due at NJP. Usually the senior gets toasted.
Ahh, now I understand: in a Frat case the senior should know better and gets the rap. I thought it meant that Jr’s don’t get masted at all. Tnx.
Maybe in your community, but not mine. The hammer gets hammered down the same way period. We had a case in Afghanistan 2013 CEC (CPO) and a HN1 Female. They were on one of the SOF DETS and it’s hard to get pulled off, but they did and the Chief Court Martial no questions, busted down PO1, 90 Days Restriction and HN1 busted down E-5 and 60 days Restriction and Extra Duty. There were other cases but this was the big one. We had to pull them off the DET and that was hard because they had been read in and cleared, but our leadership wanted to set an example.
There were about 5 females on my FOB and a couple of them were doing the rounds with the men. Luckily, they didn’t get caught and it didn’t become a distractor from the mission. Though my team never delved into that and I thank my lucky stars I didn’t have to worry about one of my guys dealing with that.
I heard enough about stories from others getting slammed for thinking with the little head.
I remember being in Iraq in 05 and every couple weeks a Senior NCO, even a 1SG or two were being arrested by CID for running a pimp ring with their female Soldiers. “Hey, dumbass? Yeah, did the last 15 that got arrested for doing this not make you realize you shouldn’t do that? Just curious dumbass.”
I saw more than one NCO wreck his career by letting his pecker think for him while I was in the litterbox, that’s why I chose to jack off like a madman instead.
sj:
Art 15 = Captain’s Mast (USN & USCG) = Office Hours (USMC)
Art 15 is also USAF.
I thought it was a “good talkin’ too” in the Zoomie Club…
runs and ducks 😉
Only Academy grads are Zoomies. LOL!
I received a couple of letter of reprimands in the USAF, all for violations of AFR 35-10…moustache over the prescribed reg as well as a haircut or 2 or 3 with lots of brylcreme that lacked white walls after a few “good talkin’ too’s” about that subject…lOL
Hey Chief, Marines can go before the Mast as well. I got Captain’s Mast when I was on Sea Duty for screwing with an Ensign who was OOD coming back from a drunken liberty in Toulon. Saluting with your left hand and calling the OOD “daddyO” was apparently more of a big deal than my teenaged Marine brain realized!
Capt of the ship held it in the Focsle and everything which scared the crap out of me. I got a latter of admonition and 30 days restriction to the ship.
Damn, I forgot about Marines being embarked… and Navy guys and gals can get Office Hours when assigned to Marine units (went to one for a junior that had a severe case of dumbshititis, that scared the shit out of me…).
Yep, we had the MARDET guys on NSA Souda Bay Greece, had to go to Capt Mass when they screwed up big time. I was a witness at a couple trying to help them out.
Rick West and Mike Stephens did so much to “PC” the CPO initiation/”season of pride” training and then end it… and trying to make the Mess look more like the Wardroom.
I was OK with the banning of booze at CPO training and the some of the other over the line hazing (physical abuse) that I heard about, but it had come along way towards making new CPO’s, and some old ones, think about being a good role model and leader in khaki. But there were some things I learned when I went through my initiation in the mid-90’s that I still use today in my current job.
Here’s another question – where was the CMC in all of this? It’s his/her Mess… sounds like they were UA in being a leader and mentor.
Ditto brother
I agree 100%
If the Chief of the Boat or CMC doesn’t know what’s going on when all his Chiefs seem to know, then he needs to hang it up and retire.
No way in hell he didn’t know anything about this shit. I would put money on it this CMC is an INDOC chief not initiated, most of those guys are retired. This shit started around 2003 and went down hill form there.
in the 24 years I was in I can’t remember when the Navy policy and leadership training at all levels were not explicitly clear in this matter. This is a disgrace.
Bottom line exactly, and these seven Jack ass’s are E-7 not Navy Chief Petty Officers.
Now the Drunk and disorderly, I get it, but the others no freaking way and I can tell you it was not tolerated in the messes I was pat of.
I am with HMCS on this one. There is a big difference between a true initiated Chief and an INDOC Chief period. I have also seen a big difference in Green side leadership than Blue side and you Corpsman understand that.
So when they take Ray Mabus his Captain’s Mast paperwork for causing this kind of bullshit in his “new navy” at least record it so the rest of us can see.
I would love to see that charge sheet, it would be a mile long…
This is another reason why I did 4 and got the hell out: You get punished for not being a tattle tale.
Not in my Navy 🙂
Of course we handled things in the Rocks and Shoals manner like my father and grandfather before me, we just called it Conex Box Counseling in the ‘Bees.
In the Fleet (Surface Fleet) it used to be lovingly called “Bulkhead Counseling”. That all but went away in the early 90’s.
Two men enter, one man leaves…..hahaha! The man that leaves is obviously the “correct” one!
In the Army we called those ‘Wall to Wall Counseling Sessions’. Once it was over, it was done. Never to be spoke of again, unless you screwed up somewhere else.
That type of “counseling” was still in vogue for special problem recruits when my son was attending infantry basic at the Benning School for Boys in 1995. NCO discipline usually works with men, but may not with this current generation of special sparkle ponies/snowflakes.
After all, no one wants to hurt their self-esteem or make them feel they need their woobie or a safe space.
It was known as “Turret Counseling” in armored cavalry units. Ahem, one such session with my PSG as a young studly TC, prevented me from doing something REALLY stoooopid.
I was going to post about this tidbit myself.
Those four didn’t just “know” it was going on. They didn’t just “have an idea” that it was happening. To get a Captain’s Mast for this, they were cheering those dumbfucks on for doing it. They were probably hoping to get in on the action themselves.
There is truly such a thing as “plausible deniability” that you can respond with, “I didn’t know what was going on.” Even if they had ‘heard’ something about it, that isn’t proof. Plenty of scuttlebutt goes on in a ship, unit, etc., that isn’t true at all.
Further, this wasn’t just them being discreet and getting it on once in a while. This was a mission distractor and causing disruption in ship efficiency, functionality. I didn’t even read the article and I can tell, this was a big deal and was causing a lot of problems on the ship. Zero Doubt.
The Captain stepped in to fix this because the chiefs were out of control and not fixing it themselves (The Ship CMC needs a talkin’ to about just retiring, regardless of his involvement in this. At best, he sucks. At worst, he got away with letting this happen.)
From the comments on the original article, I gather that the CMC of the ship is a she.
Well, like I said I didn’t even read the article. lol
But, if it is a “she” CMC, that makes it even worse. She should know everything about every female on that ship, where they are at all times, what they are doing, etc. So, either she is truly that horribly incompetent, or she knew as well and didn’t do anything about it either. (Now she’s playing dumb because she doesn’t want to lose her ship.)
Here’s her bio:
http://www.public.navy.mil/surflant/cg66/Pages/Bio3.aspx
I’m not quite sure how to feel after reading that. Fairly disturbing for someone having been in 27 years.
Paula Broadwell is likely appalled at this development.
If “A Woman” ever came aboard ship back in the day, All Marines were issued a bulkhead assault weapon. They would attack the bulkhead in an upright position continuously until “The Woman” was safely ashore.
Did they at least get some crayon play time in?
Looks like a soft spot inspection on an M113.
In my assumption that these adulterous affairs involved women, why were the women, or men if that was the case, not disciplined for fraternization as well? I agree with a post above. Putting men and women together in close confines for long periods is not going to end well. There are a thousand important duties women can accomplish very well in the military without being billeted with men. But if two folks choose to disobey orders and bump uglies, they should both be disciplined. To say the senior offender by virtue of their experience, knows better and is therefore the only one culpable, is to say the junior offender is stupid, didn’t pay attention to any of the power points they signed off as watching and generally can’t be trusted. Therefore they are not only guilty of fraternization but conduct unbecoming an intelligent human being.
One woman (junior sailor), and yes she’s being disciplined, as well.
Gee whillikers, you got 18-year-old kids with raging hormones away from M&D for the first REAL time in their lives, an bunch of horndogs hornbitches at all levels, and you’re in a closed environment where you can’t even have privacy taking a leak, and this is some kind of surprise?
Y-A-W-N. Anything else?
Maybe it’s time the military of all species recognizes the human condition and learns to allow for it. Ships’ quarters are more crowded than a thrift shop clothing store. In fact, you’d get more privacy there than you do on a ship. While the rules will be obeyed by most of the crew, you will ALWAYS have people, at all levels, who ignore them or think no one will find out about doing the naughty behind the shower curtains in the head.
Either the ships have better and roomier quarters (not gonna happen) or the Hog Board goes back up and MEN are include in that photo display.
The Lady just laid the law down and I agree.
What? Men erect the Hog Board…the thrust of it is to rub the stiffness out of the human condition after a long hard day.
When did they start putting shower curtains in the head?
Hey, fair is fair! You guys want a Hog Board with pix of YO galpals, right? Well, you ‘splain why wimmins should have the same-same of THEIR fine art.
Except that these weren’t 18yo kids.
Maybe not, Eden, but that’s how they acted.
Yeah, but they definitely knew better. Not their first rodeo.
…but…but…it was such close quarters…and s/he smelled so good and…and…(gag)
This kind of thing happens on other ships, I’m sure of it. It happens in Army units.
This was brought to Mast because it got out of control and was effecting the ship’s mission. I guarantee it.
If they were just banging and being discreet about it, it wouldn’t be a story in the news.
I got more detailed in my response above to JBUSMC.
Never get your meat, where you make your bread
Someone, somewhere, said long ago that the adult male has enough blood for both his heads–but not enough for both at the same time.
Here you go, from the CO:
“I can’t run a ship in combat that way,” Hoffman said. “I can’t go to war with high school [BS] going on behind my back. If you are having sex with a shipmate it will undermine my combat readiness, and I’ll have to [deal with] anyone involved.”
Any questions?
I blame the parents of all of these tax-sucking twits for this. SHARP lectures won’t put a stop to it, either. Notice that nobody was hollering ‘rape’ this time. It doesn’t matter who started it, either, because they’re all at fault. In the civilian work world you can get fired on the spot for this kind of thing. Do it enough and no one will hire you, period.
So who’s to blame? All of them, including the little snot deck ape who said ‘okay’.
Now can we get on with things?
“Now can we get on with things?”
I’d like to.
But with the kids these days evidently being taught that is it ok to have sex anywhere with anyone (anything?) it is not going away soon.
Just saw a news item about a 29 year old female janitor at a school who raped a 15 year old boy.
Houston has already had more reports of teachers having sex with students this school year than any school year in the past.
It is getting crazy.
Graybeard, that ‘okay freeforall’ thing is going to have to change, for several reasons, the chief of them being that oral and throat cancer are on the rise. That is caused by the human papilloma virus, which causes uterine cancer.
It is an STD, period. If those cancers are on the rise, it’s because these morons are giving it to their partners via oral sex, period. It can be a deadly disease, but worse than that, it will result in the removal of the almost the entire lower jaw structure and part of the throat, as happened with movie critic Roger Ebert.
That is not all that’s being transmitted by bad sex habits, but it’s possibly the worst of the bunch.
It isn’t even about morals. That school janitor is a pedophile, period.
I don’t know what is wrong with people now. Maybe it just gets more media attention than it used to, but if parents can’t get their kids to understand how dangerous to health this game is that they are playing, maybe some reality checks are in order. And if adults like that school janitor and Dennis Hastert and Sandusky are doing these things until they get caught, it isn’t morals. It’s a sickness. I don’t know how else to describe it.
You are preaching to the choir, Sister.
The New Testament book of Romans, chapter 2, describes what is happening quite accurately, IMHO.
The good news is that this kind of problem existed in the Roman Empire, and the antidote was found in Christianity.
I know not everyone will agree with me on that, but it is as historically accurate as a broad statement can be.
HEAR, HEAR! I was thinking the same thing.
But schools aren’t allowed to teach abstinence, because it might involve morals. /sarc
It is a trap to leave the moral education of one’s children to anyone but the parents and the church – in that order. The schools especially have been taken over by those who are either amoral or immoral in worldview.
The church ought to teach parents about morality – Truth vs. deception – and parents need to distill that into a form appropriate to their children.
Leaving moral instruction up to anyone else is a recipe for trouble. The parents are always the ones who have the most influence upon the child.
Not ignoring the fact that in too many cases the parents themselves have no moral compass. That is the imperative behind the task to “go and make disciples.”
And regardless of religion, too many parents these days become the beta team and let everyone else raise their children. Children’s first lesson about responsibility is learned from their parents who don’t take responsibility for raising children right, giving them rules and disciplining them for making mistakes or ignoring those rules.
Even when my mom, who was raising two kids alone, was working 2-4 jobs, she still yelled and screamed when I screwed up. Luckily, I had an older sister who was doing far worse things. All it took was yelling at me and I’d fix myself, most of the time.
It’s true that HPV is a factor in cervical, esophageal, anal and penile cancer…but attributing those cancers to any sort of behavior alone is a gross oversimplification.
But… but… but… the newspaper reporter did it!
(Gross oversimplification, that is. What (s)he did behaviorally to risk HPV is another issue.)
They always do….because actually explaining carcinogenesis is hard yo.
Okay, simplifying it, I did, IDC_SARC, but I keep seeing an ad by an oral-maxillofacial surgeon about it, and all these kids who are getting HPV-related cancers think that oral sex is safe sex. Just ask them.
Even oral sex defined as phone sex can be dangerous to your health, depending on where you do it and with who. Maybe even more dangerous than physical contact.
Tobacco and alcohol are the primary risk factors (as well as the genetic component which cannot be changed)
Now if only there were a readily available vaccine for the predominate oncogenic strains of HPV…oh yeah there is. 🙂
The number one cancer in young folks currently is malignant melanoma (though you didn’t define the age, so I took liberties)
…you can’t get ’em to put on sunscreen, but expect them not to nom nom nom on each other’s yummy bits? Hell, HPV colonizes the oral cavity, so even kissing is risky..though if you don’t have the oncogene and a Hx of smoking and drinking the risk is much less than the incidence of Melanoma, leukemia or lymphomas which are much more significant in the younger folks.
So there is no easy answer, right?
for HPV related cancer…yes, best option is get vaccinated.
Just like getting vaccinated for Hepatitis B means you won’t get hepatitis B associated liver cancer
I guess I should feel fortunate the Army gave me all kinds of vaccinations for so many different things I have no idea. And the VA will keep giving you booster shots for it all too!
EX-PH2… the CO’s statement shows that he’s lost confidence in the CPO Mess on the ship because of their role in this shit. Most places I was assigned to, the CO/XO usually came to the Mess first to float an idea or how to make something happen. With this crap on the Hue City, The CO/XO are going to go to the Wardroom first because, “The Chiefs are all fucked up”.
The seven idiots screwed things up for the other Chief’s on that ship for who knows how long – I’d hate to have orders to her in the next couple of years.
I concur, Senior Chief, because at first glance in that article, the problem appears to be a lack of discipline. Why those seven people would do that and think it’s okay when they know better is beyond me.
I guess it was just better hidden in the 1960s.
I wouldn’t want to be assigned to that ship, either.
Now… does the CO have the balls to wipe his ass with the CMC’s mext FITREP and basically end her chances for future CMC tours or possibly pull her NEC as a CMC?
Not if he wants to have a sexual harassment investigation hanging over his head for the rest of his career.
You’re right… he’s screwed if he does hit her FITREP with an adverse mark or statement on it. And he’s screwed if he doesn’t. Her ability to lead a Mess is not there, and any CO with a lot of common sense would not take her onboard for just that reason.
With this crap, her name is mud in the Navy-wide mess (with the exception of those that are ran by the PC E-9’s – someone will make it as “she’s a victim”). Plus, anyone in the detailing shop for CMC’s with a set should be calling her and telling her that the Hue City “is” her last assignment.
I told them 45 years ago that there were going to be long term effects when potassium nitrate was deleted as an additive to the green eggs and ham breakfast master menu.
But did they listen? No….
Dumbass Pentagon Bean Counters./sarc
Yes, now that long term effect is female shipmates who are preggers, and creating another long term effect. In my Army and Navy we didn’t have that problem, because there were no wymyns in the combat arms or on ships.
Yes Sir, same deal in my Army that I spent 20 years in. Never was in a unit that had female personnel authorized.
Even though I ended up in MOS’s after Viet of the Nam (Motor Pool Parts and Supply) that could go to any outfit worldwide, the Army kept me in Combat Arms (Chaparral/Vulcan ADA and Leg/Mech INF) my entire time.
Nothing better than being down there where the track pad meets the road.
I did 15 months in the only Mech/Abn Inf. unit in the Army, 2/509th, 8th ID. Loved the tracks, when they ran right, especially the ones with diesel engines that hardly ever broke down.
Well, it’s like I said earlier, if someone does this in the civilian work world, s/he gets fired. Period. No hearings, no ‘mast’, no consideration of retirement options except for personal savings, not even severance pay in most cases.
Bill O’Reilly, the most recent obnoxious dolt we’ve heard about cost Fox $13 million in compensation to the women he pissed off, and another $25 million just to push him out the door.
I’m sure you’ve all heard this one but I’ll tell it anyway.
The Department of the Navy is now assigning females to quarters in a separate private OFF LIMITS area on all aircraft carriers.
Addressing all boat personnel at Pearl Harbor, CINCPAC advised, “The female sleeping quarters will be out-of-bounds for all males. Anybody caught breaking this rule will be fined $50 the first time.”
He continued, ” Anybody caught breaking this rule the second time will be fined $150. Being caught a third time will cost you a fine of $500. Are there any questions?”
At this point, a Marine Gunnery Sergeant, from the security detail assigned to the ship, stood up in the crowd and inquired: “How much for a season pass?”
Since you guys have repeatedly said that there were plenty of women deployed with you that did NOT act like fools, shouldered their share of the load and just did their jobs, why is it that we don’t hear about them more often?
Why is it that we hear mostly about these rancid cows who engage in these sordid escapades, and sometimes charge for it, instead? And why do these grown men decide to think with their zippers instead of their brains?
If you can answer that, let me know. At this point, I blame both sides for this because they all knew better but didn’t act ‘better’.
The same reason why we don’t hear about the thousands of people who’s lives we saved in places like Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. The same reason why we don’t hear about all the personnel who do their jobs well for 20+ years and retire with no scandals. The same reason why we don’t hear about the positive actions that politicians do as part of their career.
Sex and death sell and that’s what the media makes their money off. Especially if it is a story about the military, because people will want to read about it just because its military related.
Has E8 Moerk commented at all about this in hopes of getting another ARCOM?
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E8 Moerk was the female Sailor. She retired from the Army and enlisted in the Navy so she could spread her wisdom among all military branches.
Are you sure boys and GIRLS were involved? I mean, these days you never know…..
Damn I had no idea the Navy had Hood-Rats
😂. 🤣. 😂. 😅. 👏
WTF.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS senior leaders guilty of this but when when a private does it they smash them to pieces,
The CMC KNEW. None of this “if he didn’t know” stuff. Not a very effective CMC.
The behavior sucked the life from the ship’s morale. All who knew of this behavior, and it was probably a large % of the crew, felt there were different rules for different pay rates. Absolutely a morale destroyer.
CPO anchors hitting the deck as they should. There will be RIR for some of these ‘Chiefs’
I wouldn’t want to be a CPO on that ship for the foreseeable future. There will be hell to pay, even among the non-participants. This includes those who have not yet even reported aboard.
Harsh? Yeah, but we were held to exacting standards for a reason. The Navy didn’t expect the CPO community to just be one of the boys or girls. I’m thinking these folks didn’t get the memo.
Damn straight that she knew… and if she didn’t, then she shouldn’t be the CMC or a member of the Mess!
FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP!
I was on THE hue city long before this took place.i can tell you things that can be proven today that would make this look like horse play.ask anyone including macm johnny long. First hue city cmc