Our two cents..
OWB posted this elsewhere and I opted to share it here:
Against my better judgement, a few thoughts are proffered on whatever that display was yesterday in Washington, DC.
What many are asking first is, “What was the point of the exercise?” I would be among those who question if there was any at all. The visuals are certainly obnoxious, so disgusting that we wonder if the only point to it all was to garner negative attention to something which no one has yet articulated. When left to ponder what message we were to get from it, with no sense of direction from the participants, we are given little choice but to make up something. We sane members of society try to make sense of things around us, but sometimes there is no sense to be made. This looks like one of those times.
If the point was to show that women are as capable as men of using crude language, then they succeeded. Most of us already knew that. Name calling and use of dirty words can be heard in any school yard around the country.
If the point was to show that somebody somewhere can design a silly hat and knit it up, again, they succeeded. And again, most of us already knew that, but had hitherto given no thought to it. Walk down any street during winter in any town or city in the country when the temperature drops below zero and you will see silly head coverings, many perhaps hand knitted by someone’s grandmother.
Maybe the point was to show that girls look cute in pink? And what do you call that color which is darker than pink but not really quite red? Raspberry? Claret? Purplish, sorta bluish kinda pink? I dunno, and still don’t care.
Seriously, about all I got out of all this is that there are a bunch of females in this country who could be manipulated into appearing in public in really stupid looking hats screaming obscenities. Only guessing, but were those same females required to learn to knit to attend this thing? Somebody had to make them. Maybe the males in attendance did the knitting.
My usual default position is to find something positive or a lesson learned in every situation in life. Still working on how this foolishness contributes anything to our lives other than morbid entertainment.
Only in America do we so proudly display our loons in public. Makes you wonder if perhaps someone should be criminally charged with abuse of the mentally ill. Putting so many of them in front of TV cameras just seems cruel.
Category: Geezer Alert!
They have no logic, no reasoning, only emotions and anger that men exist.
Asking why the insane act the way they do is a step toward insanity.
My bet you were not wondering what the point of the Tea Party protests were.
It was warning congress that a major voter demographic is getting pissed off. And it is not over. That was just the first of many protests we would expect to see moving forward.
If congress does not take pay attention they will lose see a much more active, motivated, and, mobilized opposition than they have seen in decades.
And I am certain that candidates in contested districts and state and local elections are paying attention to the opposition to Trump.
I have been a progressive for two decades and I have never seen the progressive base as motivated and mobilized as it is now. Not even Obama’s first term (the DNC was split). Hillary, a polarizing force that never really represented progressive views is no longer in the way and her power structure is no longer able to protect many DNC establishment candidates.
The republicans are going to overplay their hand and face a progressive reaction like we have not seen in American politics in a half a century.
2018 will be a game changer in American politics.
Spoken like a true commie bastard, Lars. 2018 will be what, 365 days that shook Portland? While you HOPE that things go your way, the CHANGE that has been effected assures that things will go our way, or mostly so. By the way, how do you suppose that 98 Senators were duped into voting to approve Mattis, the man you labeled a sociopath? There’s much more I can say about your silly statements and your hopeful predictions but, really, what’s the use?
When it came down to a continuation of the progressive/marxist/commie policies of Baracka by the election of H. Clinton, or a walk-back from the abyss that Trump represented, Clinton was beaten and Trump prevailed. You can dress it up with this, that, or the other thing but the nation chose Trump. The year to act was 2016 and it just didn’t work out for the Left. I am delighted. We have the change. They have the hope. We have the presidency, the House, and the Senate. They have a bunch of screeching dames and sissmarys in silly hats.
Hey, THEY have Commissar. I wish I had thought of that earlier. It really says all that needs to be said.
Bravo!
I only wish our resident retired intel officer had outed OWN as “old white bastard”, again. Good times.
Damn autocorrect, OWB
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2018 will see more Democrat losses if the
economy improves. I don’t recall tea party protests being this juvenile, seems to be the Dems are the ones who overplayed their hand, can you say nuclear option, the Dems obviously thought they would remain the majority forever. Also I have never seem common men and women who identify neither as conservative or progressive so motivated. These are people who have finally said enough, lets stop screwing one group to favor a bunch with loud mouths.
The Tea Party had a platform, a stated mission. What was there to wonder about?
Amen
I’m certain that 2018 will see further Demo-rat losses just because of whom they’ve chosen to lead the remnants of their party further off the proverbial cliff! They chose to keep Nanny Lugosi, put Schoomah in the place of Rat Reid and to keep going as far left as possible.
That’s right I don’t believe 2016 was a full awakening of this movement. Many thought the Lying Bitch had it in the bag thanks to the media. So when they saw her get beat like an old drum they become enthused that we do have a chance and are ready to believe in 2018.
I’m sure she thought she had it bagged as well given how she pranced around like she expected to be coronated at any moment.
Exactly. When if fact, she would have been better off putting a bag over that disgusting growth that protrudes from her neck up.
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Lars – really?
The Tea Party groups had very clear and logical statements of position on the matters which interested them.
The demonstrations did not engage in gross vulgarity or disparagement of those of other opinions.
The signs which I have seen of these pink-kitten-eared hat demonstrators either repeated varieties of unfounded accusations or out-of-context statements about various people to whom they seem to have visceral reactions, or spewed some ideologist extremist rantings.
They excluded women of different viewpoints, physically attacked women who did not agree with them, and otherwise behaved in an irrational manner.
In short – they are irrational emotion-driven actors. There is no logic or reasoning to them – perhaps some rationalizing but no reasoning.
The Tea Party movements were the diametrical opposites of this.
“They excluded women of different viewpoints, physically attacked women who did not agree with them, and otherwise behaved in an irrational manner.”
Yep.
I also saw photos of idiot women making hijabs from American flags. Not the first time it’s happened, it likely won’t be the last.
“The Tea Party movements were the diametrical opposites of this.”
Yep.
Hey Village Idiot aka Lars aka Commissar, JUST HOW many locales were left looking like a landfill after Tea Party Rally?
HOW MANY times did we hear about things like drugs, rapes, looting and vandalism there?
YOU LOSE yet again, Village Idiot.
Ponder this, Poodledick: “Against all enemies, , both foreign and domestic” ponder this long and long again. It means something to a good deal of us
The collectivist agenda is so popular with the People that it must ultimately be enforced by the Bayonet and the Secret Police.
You can hornswoggle a bunch of folks with that Marxist bullshit, but as soon as they have to live with the reality of it myriad failures and multiple brutalities, the lie becomes obvious and the bayonets come out, and the Lubiyankas overflow.
Obama got maybe 1/10th of what he wanted,and we didn’t see 3% economic growth for 8 years, even with the usual government book-cooking. Just imagine the lofty heights we would have achieved if there had beeen no opposition to his Grand Plans. Why, we might have achieved even less!
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Example of the left’s goals:
“Income disparity!” The rich get richer and the gap between rich and poor increases.
Darn right, and a very good thing it does. One end is effectively unlimited. The “big” end grows as much as the smartest folks can figure out. The other end, the small and poor end, always is fixed, at zero.
So, any growth at all, no matter how slight, and that “gap” increases.
Wait! That means… Yup. The Left wants to make -everyone- more poor, so that they can trumpet what they have done for the guys on the bottom. In other words, they will sink the whole damn economy in order to keep people dependent and poor.
Poor and dependent on … oooops… Lefties.
But somehow the so-called leaders never do without, oh no. The Commisars eat well, while the rest starve, fed on a diet of empty lies and cold envy.
And our Zampolit chose his name to let us know where he sees himself in his preferred new order. But alas, not to be.
Yep-Margaret Thatcher had them pegged: “they’d rather that the poor were poorer, so long as the rich were less rich.”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pdR7WW3XR9c
And most of us here see their worldview, based almost entirely on envy and resentment, for what it is. But Lars, believing himself of having some superior insight into human affairs chooses to come over here and lecture us about issues most of us have been studying and considering for decades-what a douche!
The aim of Communism and Socialism is to make as many as possible as miserable as they can.
Evidently Lars’s hand had a headache again.
^^^^^ This ^^^^^
“It was warning congress that a major voter demographic is getting pissed off. And it is not over. That was just the first of many protests we would expect to see moving forward.”
They are just now getting pissed off?
Where the fuck have they been the past eight years?
What did Obama do for them?
What have the Democrats done for them?
Did their rights vaporize overnight?
Why did they exclude other women’s groups?
What do they think they have lost or will lose?
What major voter demographic group are you talking about? Women? If you think that the protestors are indicative of the women voter base you are a fucking idiot.
I have no problem with the march, they have that right. Maybe Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi can lobby for their demands since they have done so much in their extensive political careers to further women’s rights.
Lars,
My guess is that our elected officials will be swayed by the antics of thousands of foot-stomping, foul mouthed harpies as much as I am.
Not.One.Bit.
It’s not like any legitimate concerns they would have aren’t already on the table.
IMHO Lars really needs to change his screen name to “Maple Syrup” because he is truly a SAP.
YOU would support this mindless, brainless obnoxious banter……go take your pills and a nap, YOU NEED IT!
The point of the exercise is fear. Trump’s election has flushed every nervous constitution in this country like a covey of quail.
They do come off as a bunch of suckers. Fell for it like fools.
Font attack!
I don’t know what all their noise was about, either, Zero, unless it was just to exhibit obnoxious and childish behavior in public.
Ir those ‘people’ were their about civil rights, they need to spend some time doing a little digging into the same legislation that I posted yesterday. All of that is addressed in those three pieces of legislation, including the 19th Amendment.
Since I don’t have a TV, and my news comes online or in the daily fishwrap, the coverage of it makes it a non-event in my view. None of those silly bitches, including the behemoth michaelmoore, are being oppressed in any way. They have no idea what oppression really means. They also have no idea what real sexual harassment means, but they’re supporting and being led by someone who supports and promotes sharia law.
I still view this entire fractious episode as the last gasp of that twaddle, and people who have better sense didn’t go to that idiocy and went back to work today.
In Chicago:
Cubs fans at the Cubs’ homecoming parade: about 5 million, clogging the streets, in October 2016.
Wimmns’ group rally (not a march) estimated at 250,000 on 1/22/2017
I’d say Cubs fans are 20 times as smart and mature as that bunch that left the Loop in a mess yesterday. They also don’t clean up after themselves. Real mature people, right?
Wait until the Pro-Life rally in D.C., and watch the media not cover it. It will, if past crowds are any indicator, double the number of women who showed up on Saturday. But, it won’t get coverage like Saturday did.
I’m also willing to bet a twelve pack of good beer and a fifth of good Bourbon that the Pro-Life marchers won’t leave the place looking like a landfill the way those brain-damaged fleabag wombats did!
That’s supposed to be January 27 this year.
http://marchforlife.org/
I wonder about the total number of cats the protester’s owned collectively. It has to be an epic number!
I thought they were protesting because of a YouTube video…
or was that something else?
My best guess was the free dope and the booze.
On a serious note, I found it interesting the amount of division within their ranks.
I married a feminist. Its good for me. Keeps me in check, if you will. And she always states that women should not undermine other women. But I saw a lot of that.
Anti-abortionist were ridiculed and not allowed to attend in many places. Rich and/or conservative (moderate to Republican) women were shunned and degraded publicly. And from my understanding so were many minority women as most of the “protesters” were white. Heard the same was true for many suburban working-women as well.
I also heard the numbers were a little off in some places. Some places got crushed for sure, but some of the other places “fizzled”. When you have to many competing messages and agendas, these things happen.
And the Democratic establishment wonders why…….?
Odd.
it’s not enough to be a protester, you have to be a “correct” protester. If your Newthink is incorrect, you are not allowed a voice.
I see what you did there, and I approve.
I honestly don’t get the hatred for this rally. It was a peaceful demonstration – given the issues we’ve had with things like the BLM protests, shouldn’t we encourage peaceful demonstrations? Don’t people have that right, even if you or I disagree with their positions?
In a few weeks, some pro-life groups are going to march on DC. Guess what? I think that’s totally fine – good, even. People are allowed to demonstrate when it’s peaceful. They’re allowed to give their voice to the government. I don’t have to agree with them to respect that right and see that they find value in it, even if I do not.
So, you ask for something good about it? By that, do you mean good for you or good for them? Because I don’t think they rallied for you (or me, or plenty of other people), they rallied for themselves. And I wager if you ask the people who went whether there was anything ‘positive’ to it, they’d wholeheartedly say yes. Whether that’s just general camaraderie or inspiration for getting more involved in politics or, hey, maybe even just a new pink hat, I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure the majority of them went because it was worth it.
We don’t need to believe in the same things to understand that others find value in them. I’m not religious, and thus don’t find value in going to church, but I absolutely respect and understand my friends and family who do. You may not find value in this rally, but plenty of others did.
A lot of my buddies found it a good place to pick up chicks.
After all the booze and dope ran out, they brought in the supplies!
You got hatred from that statement? Do, tell – how did you manage that?
He’s a leftie. Hate is the buzz word ranking just after racist. You know, when you have no valid point….
My apologies. Hatred was a poor choice of words; I was conflating this statement (‘confusion’, perhaps?) with what I’ve read elsewhere.
Sentiments from conservatives tend to be pretty dismissive of the rally, is that a fair statement?
Yes, I think that is a fair statement. The question then is why? And the answer is that it had no singular purpose, that it was a hodgepodge of the fearful, the disgruntled, and the angry, not to mention the subversive types, many dressed in funny hates, for the express purpose of venting their spleen. It was one large temper tantrum. And what did it accomplish? From my vantage point, nothing. There will be no Supreme court decision affected, nor will a piece of legislation come from it. Those who were against Trump before the rallies remain against him and those for him, or those at least willing to give him a chance, remain as they were.
Freudian slip? Hats and hates.
And what do you think will happen with pro-lifers come, surely some of whom will have angry signs with disturbing pictures of fetuses and whatnot? Is that not a temper tantrum? Or when tea party types had rallies and shouted about big government, is that not a temper tantrum too?
We’re inclined to find angry outbursts by people we disagree with to be ‘tantrums’, but that doesn’t matter – the people at the rally went for themselves, not for you or me. I know a number of people who went, and they found it pretty encouraging. One is looking at getting involved in local politics now. Isn’t that an ‘accomplishment’?
I mean, the tea party rallies didn’t change a supreme court or a law directly, but they got people involved in the political process and quite obviously had an effect over time. I imagine there will be a similar effect from this, albeit a less strong one because, as I said above, the concept wasn’t as unified as I think it should’ve been.
At the end of the day, though, the people who went got something out of it. And that’s the point. People who don’t follow football don’t see the point in painting your face and stocking up on beer and wings for the Super Bowl, but people who love football do. It doesn’t have to mean something to everyone, it means something to the people who care about it, and that’s enough.
“Is that not a temper tantrum?” No, it is not. Cripes, LC. Perhaps if the media gave some coverage to this annual Pro-Life event, the March for Life, you would recognize the vast difference. The numbers have grown in recent years. 2013 saw some 650,000 people in DC for the event. The marchers are not favored by the lefty media and, at best, there is only token and brief coverage of it. If 1/10 of that crowd were there to scream, “I hate Trump” or some such thing, not only would that be a tantrum but it would be the lead story on every network news show. In fact, it was.
I’ve walked by pro-life rallies outside a local Planned Parenthood, and even though I didn’t support PP, by merely not accepting a pamphlet about God and babies, I had a woman scream at me and spit at my feet. Now, maybe the rally in DC gets far more sensible types, but to me that’s a temper tantrum.
As for the coverage, I don’t think it’s so much just that the media is ‘lefty’ as it is that the March for Life has been going on for years. It’s not as news-worth as a new rally following an incredibly contentious election cycle that was originally expected to get 200K people and somehow ended up with 500K. That’s apples to oranges.
If this Women’s March happens again next year, do you honestly think it’ll get the same amount of coverage? I’d guess it’ll still get quite a bit, but also less than now. It won’t be as novel. Unless something crazy happens like it doubles in size.
Since this is speculation, though, I’m guessing we’re going to disagree. Let’s see what happens in a few weeks with the March for Life rally.
You really are out of touch, LC.
You are incorrectly using the word ‘tea’ for the TEA party. TEA stands for Taxed Enough Already. It isn’t about bone china cups and cucumber sandwiches.
In addition, the next Pro-Life get-together is Jan. 27, 2017. That’s this week.
Since there are hyper-emotional people everywhere who go to all sorts of events, you could get spit on at a Rolling Stones concert, too.
Roe v. Wade was passed in 1973, became the law of the land. It is supposed to offer choices to women, which is something both sides seem to forget: it is a choice. The Lefties are using it as a form of birth control, which is not what it was meant to be – EVER. Planned Parenthood does NOT offer ANY free services. They charge fees for everything they do, and they do NOT offer abortion to women. They redirect women to doctors who will do that. Planned Parenthood not only makes cash from selling foetal tissue from abortions to labs for research purposes; they ALSO get funding from the federal government because they claim to be non-profit.
I could go on further with this, but the entire thing has gotten out of hand. The leftist side of the fence wants all women to have abortions, willy-nilly – yes, they ARE approaching that level – and the rightist side of the fence wants just the opposite. That’s it in a nutshell.
As it stands now, I do not think the taxpayers of this country should be paying for other people’s sex lives and sex mistakes like not using birth control. And don’t start that crap about ‘some people can’t use it’: there are plenty of alternatives to pills, e.g., Trojans and just not getting laid, period.
It takes two to Tango!
Not my responsibility to pay for someone else’s irresponsibility.
So because I didn’t capitalize ‘TEA’ I’m out of touch? Here’s a link to the ‘About Us’ page on the main Tea Party website – notice their spelling doesn’t make it an acronym either:
http://www.teaparty.org/about-us/
Here’s a link from Fox talking about the Tea party and it also doesn’t do it – I chose Fox because, you know, they’re not exactly liberals:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/12/how-tea-party-helped-trump-win-election.html
But yes, I got the date wrong for the March for Life. I’m sorry. I genuinely thought it was in early March.
As for PP and fetal tissue, to the best of my knowledge the allegations that they sell fetal tissue have been found false:
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/28/464594826/in-wake-of-videos-planned-parenthood-investigations-find-no-fetal-tissue-sales
Now, whether they do abortions or refer people to other doctors is about as relevant to me as whether my doctor does PET scans or refers me to a specialist. It doesn’t matter what building I walk into, I can talk to my local doctor and get referred to another if needed. What’s the issue there?
And no, I’d prefer no women have abortions. And I’m against federal money going towards abortions except in extreme situations – fortunately, that’s exactly how the law works now. I don’t like abortion, and don’t even know how we got on the topic, but I feel making it illegal would be about as effective as making drugs illegal. Which is to say it’ll still happen, and just be more dangerous, which benefits nobody. Ensuring abortions happen less frequently is a cultural issue, not a legal one. Like drugs.
Exactly. Abortion is a moral issue, not political. It is legal despite my objection, but that doesn’t mean I should have to pay for it.
Should we pay for a 70 year old to have CABG surgery after smoking for 50 years?
No, they should.
What’s the issue with Planned Parenthood. Gee, I thought I was quite clear on that: they charge fees for redirecting women to abortion services. If those women don’t want to do that, they talk them into it, anyway. Yes, they DO sell foetal tissue. Where the hell do you think they get it?
Anyone who cannot afford an abortion is funded by tax money called Medicaid. You have heard of that, right?
I don’t understand why I have to repeat myself.
So women have no mind of their own, and the wizards at Planned Parenthood can magically coerce women who don’t want abortions into getting them? Damn, that’s pretty impressive. Here I was thinking it was a choice. Personal responsibility and all that.
And as the link I posted above shows, no, the investigation into the selling of fetal tissue showed it was not happening. Care to share any links that give evidence to the contrary? Meaning something showing the multi-state investigations proved they were selling tissue?
Here’s a paragraph, and a link, with additional information:
“In the United States, this is collected at medical centres and clinics that perform abortions under a patchwork of laws and regulations governing consent, tissue collection and transfer (see ‘Fetal tissue and the law’). US law says that clinics can recover “reasonable payments” to offset the costs of providing the tissue, but it makes it a felony to profit from doing so. Planned Parenthood officials say that its clinics obtain full and informed consent from women choosing to donate fetal remains for research, and the organization announced in October that its clinics will no longer recover costs of $45–60 per specimen for collecting the tissue.”
If you’re arguing a donation to medical science is a ‘sale’, well, I think you’re twisting semantics.
Link: http://www.nature.com/news/the-truth-about-fetal-tissue-research-1.18960
And again, if I go to my doctor and he refers to me another, I still pay. I don’t know why that’s the case, and yes, I think it sucks, but I also don’t know why it should be different at any other medical provider, such as Planned Parenthood.
Finally, the Hyde amendment prevents federal funds from being used for abortions for people on Medicaid except in cases of rape, incest or dangerous pregnancies. Some states allow for state taxes to go towards abortions, but that’s a state’s rights issue, isn’t it? Once again, I’m not a fan of any money going towards that, with the same exceptions that the Hyde amendment makes.
‘magically coerce women into getting abortions’ – yes, they do everything they can to convince the women who come to them to NOT carry the foetus to full term but to get abortions instead. That is EXACTLY what they do, and I don’t care whether you believe that or not.
No Federal funding supporting abortions? Au contraire, LC.
The best current estimates are that Federal and state governments fund nearly 1/4 of all abortions performed in this nation.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2015/10/02/are-american-taxpayers-paying-for-abortion/#7aa054d77709
Additionally, the Federal government reimburses states for much/most of their Medicaid expenses. The reimbursement rate ranges between 50 and 75 percent (statutory max is 82%, but it appears no states currently receive the maximum allowable reimbursement rate under Federal law).
https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/financing-and-reimbursement/
Finally, arguing that states that fund abortions out of “state revenues” while participating in Medicaid do not use Federal funds to subsidize abortions is specious. Money is fungible – that is, once received it can be used for multiple purposes. A dollar received from external sources that is “earmarked” merely frees up another dollar to be used elsewhere.
Thus, states receiving Medicaid reimbursement are in effect receiving a Federal healthcare subsidy – which in turn frees up state money for use elsewhere, such as “state funded abortions”. In short, Federal medicate reimbursement is in effect subsidizing abortions by allowing a state which funds abortions using “state money” to fund them using money that would otherwise presumably be used for other healthcare purposes and which has been “freed up” because Uncle Sam is partially funding that state’s Medicaid program.
I’m glad you enjoy giving this progtard propagandist a forum for his blather, which is only a couple of degrees more cogent than that of the ex-governance officer (REMF) of the Berzekley commune. Personally, I find reading his dreck a waste of time.
small comment: I believe the key word is “profit” – PP does indeed SELL fetal tissue but claims it is only reovering its costs, not using it as a profit center. I beieve during the recordings ‘scandal’ the fees it recovered were on the order of a couple hundred dollars or so per transaction. But sales they definitely are.
Just look at the before and after the Pro-Life Rally versus the same of the Wombat Herd and I’m positive that the Pro-Life marchers WILL NOT leave their route looking like a landfill the way the fleabag hippie wombats did.
I’m of two minds on this. One, absolutely, I wish it had been cleaner.
But I also wonder how messy it was left compared to, say, other gatherings. And there’s not really a lot to go on here, but there is some. Here’s an article that says the cleanup crews do this every year after July 4th, and that this year was tidier than previous years.
Article: http://wtop.com/local/2017/01/nps-cleanup-going-well-after-inauguration-womens-march/
I’m guessing that refers to the July 4th celebrations in previous years, so let’s do our best to compare crowd sizes. The estimates I’ve seen for the Women’s March are around 500K in DC, but numbers for the July 4th celebrations are harder to come by. I’ve seen some suggest as many as 700K, and some say that as few as 200K were expected at last year’s concert/fireworks. If you want both those references, just let me know, but that seems to indicate the crowd was roughly the same size… and yet tidier.
That is, they weren’t any messier than your average Americans who go to the Capitol on July 4th. Should they still be tidier? Absolutely. Are they monstrous, littering assholes? Only if everyone else is, too.
LC, just look at before and after pics of say, “0ccupy” infestations versus those of Tea Party Rallies. How many of the latter had episodes of punks defecating on LE vehicles? How many times did Conservatives go on rampages smashing windows, looting and torching limousines both times former President B. Hussein 0bama was elected?
Most liberals are little more than sniveling juveniles that are allergic to facts, logic, work, common sense and personal responsibility always demanding more of what other people have worked to earn. I have worked my ass off most of my adult life for what I have and IMHO I don’t owe a damn thing to any of those parasites!
Again, two perspectives on this – one, you’re absolutely correct again. As much as you see me here arguing with the almost exclusively conservative TAH crowd, I save most of my scorn for liberals. The shrieking idiocy I often see from some of them irritates me in ways nobody here can even begin to match. Basically, I typically identify (on social issues) with liberal ideas, and yet decry the ill-advised actions many liberals take to ‘support’ those ideas.
But the flip side of this is that I know far more reasonable liberals than I do unreasonable ones. The unreasonable ones are the loudest by far, but they’re not ‘most’ liberals. Do I strike you as allergic to facts, logic or work? We disagree on some things, but I work my ass off, I don’t want ‘free things’, and I generally try to be fair with my assessment of policy and politicians and don’t mind disagreement. That’s a lot of liberals, we’re just not as visible as the shrieking ones. Hopefully that’ll change in the coming few years.
Some of us here have attended multiple events of both persuasions for decades. Take my remarks as anecdotal or flat out lies as you choose. I have observed consistently that lefty gatherings result in a trashed venue. Inside, outside, makes no difference. It’s a standing joke among those who must do the clean up afterwards. They know.
This pattern of misbehavior started long before the existence of the Tea Party. It’s been around since the 60’s that I am personally aware. It’s a significant part of what opened my eyes to just how disrespectful lefties are about anything and anyone other than themselves.
I have no reason to dispute that – I think it has less to do with liberal vs. conservative principles, though, and more to do with the fact that liberal events tend to be filled more with young people who often lack the maturity that the older crowd of conservative gathers have. People who work, have raised kids, and know they need to pick up their own shit are, I imagine, going to be a bit better about that sort of thing than young kids with the attention span of gnats on crack.
Again, I don’t lean left on some things because of the maturity of the people, I do it despite that, because I think the principles are sound. Give me a Republican party that’s pro-science and doesn’t care that gay people want the same civil rights as straight people and I’d probably switch from describing myself as leaning liberal to leaning conservative.
And yes, I know some ‘lefties’ who are disrespectful to anyone and anything they don’t agree with, but at the same time I also know plenty who aren’t too. My friends are pretty evenly split among conservatives and liberals – I think the zealots exist on both sides in near-equal numbers. Obviously, your experience may differ, but that’s been mine.
” Give me a Republican party that’s pro-science and doesn’t care that gay people want the same civil rights as straight people and I’d probably switch from describing myself as leaning liberal to leaning conservative.”
Hi, Nice to meet you. I am also an Atheist. And an avid follower of Jillian Becker. (founder and writer for: http://theatheistconservative.com/)
I know I am not a ‘party’ but there are those of us who do exist; we are not unicorns.
Cheers,
MrFace
Allow me to introduce myself. I’m not an Atheist, but I’m not a big fan of organized religion either. I’m still allowed in the same club as MrFace. I think that’s called “being inclusive”.
Yeah, allow me to introduce myself. I’m an Episcopalian, my sister is Jewish and my brother is ‘don’t-give-crap’. My sister teaches pre-med students at a private university, and I create sci-fi novels based on real science, not idjit cauldron scrapings.
Anything else?
One thing is for sure and it’s that President Donald J. Trump got far more ugly fat Women out walking around after just ONE DAY in office than Moochelle 0bama did in EIGHT YEARS. Maybe all the liberal rodents are in fear of having to work for their daily cheese?
The truth is that these “protesters” already paid for bus, train, air fare, hotel, motel, assuming the landslide Hillary Clinton victory.
Since they were not attending the Twitchy Bitch of Benghazi’s guaranteed Inauguration, they decided to trash the Capitol.
One issue that I found hilarious was that some were protesting the fact that tampons are taxed and Viagra isn’t.
Why it’s almost like different rules apply for things sold over the counter or by prescription.
Lefties just like to hear themselves screech.
Bingo. The simple explanation.
Plus, they got to block rooms for those who would have attended if they could have gotten a room.
This whole pile of crap has cost me my one remaining family member. I never ONCE let my sister’s liberal views get between us — I love her, she’s my sister. That was all. Since Trump has been elected, we haven’t had one normal conversation. She literally is blaming ME for what has happened, and she literally cannot separate her political beliefs and her familial relationships. I won’t have anymore to do with her until she gets her head out of her ass. If her self-righteous rage means that much to her, she can party all by herself. I’ve had it with her.
Sorry to hear that, Pinto. I hope things will improve a bit with time – emotions are high right now on both sides. I’ve had liberal friends stop talking to me because I’ve defended Trump voters and the President himself, and I’ve had conservative ones do the same because I’ve also criticized the President.
Again, given some time, I hope people will realize the world hasn’t ended and a little civility can return.
Let her go and sulk, PN. She has to get over her misdirected anger on her own. And when or if she decides she wants to contact you again, just ask ‘how you doin’?’ and let it go at that.
Good, sound advice, EX-PH2…
PN, I’ve had a sibling do the same with me and refers to me as a “Republican Bastard” in conversations. I’ve long go since conditioned myself to blow it off and not even let it phase me and life’s been easier ever since. She was a Bernie-head this go-around and I’m sure she was a Hillarhoid afterward and has since become a Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder Operative (TARDO). She has a Maters Degree from a college education paid for by our parents and has not had a real job for most of her adult life, I don’t have a college degree and I earn more than she does.
My liberal sister watched the DC march and said “what the fuck was all that, way to perpetuate the stereotype!”
The funniest comment I saw about it was written by a woman. She said, “I will take these protestors seriously when I see a hat that looks like a 5 day old roast beef sandwich that had been dragged across the floor of a barber shop!”
And WTF was Madonna doing up on a stage giving a speech? That sank wouldn’t have a career if she hadn’t pranced around in her underwear for 40 years. Her contribution to the election was to promise an exchange of blowjobs for votes. I don’t really think of her when I think of empowered women. Does anyone tell their daughter, “I hope you grow up to be just like Madonna when you grow up.”? I don’t get the whole Madonna thing, obviously.
Apparently she cursed and blabbed about some new age tyranny. Mentioned dreaming of blowing up the White House, but espoused a revolution of love.
Yeah, blow job Madonna is a real revolutionary.
I wonder how she feels about now having a USSS file open on her thanks to her idiotic statement about the White House? The Secret Service DOES NOT take lightly to things like that.
When Madonna has a prominent role you know your shit is weak. But if you’re wearing a pussy hat, your case is already weak.
I saw a comment that said this would have made sense if the protests were in Saudi and other raghead places that stone women (and gays) for any behavior “they” deem deviant.
I’m still trying to figure out what dis-justice American women have other than not being able to kill their babies as birth control. Or work in the Clinton foundation at lower pay than men.
Can we call those hats what they really are? They’re piss caps, not pussy hats. Just piss caps. Take my word for it.
It’s a better label.
Yes mamn.
Just to say; I was wearing a cunt cap, before wearing a cunt cap was cool..
^^me too. 1963.
Weren’t they called piss cutters also?
And we wore them front to back and not side to side.
Ditto. In 1968-1970, but with a glider/parachute patch. Replaced with a green beret in 1971.
They were spitting on Gold Star family members outside the American Legion Ball:
http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/23/ham-anti-trump-protestors-spit-on-gold-star-family-members/
They are the same kind of maggots who spit on service members during Vietnam and who protested outside Walter Reed on family days with make shift coffins, etc. more recently.
Sometimes, you just want to get the firehoses out and wash away the trash in the streets.
I say soak ’em with warm soapy water and watch them melt. It’s just as much fun to approach them with a Job Application and watch them run like Vampires from garlic wreaths and Crucifixes! Hiding their welfare checks under a pair of work boots is also a lot of fun.
Where was the Women’s March last year? 2015? 2014? 2013? 2012? 2011? 2010? 2009? 2008?
I have search on Google, Yahoo, Bing etc. and can’t seem to find any information. I called some liberal friends who are women and ask them as well, they didn’t know either.
Maybe they should stand for the voiceless women who are actually being oppressed right under their snotty, entitled noses.
Some on the left said the same thing about the tea party. Now the right is complaining about the protesters on the left. Quite frankly, I am sick of it all. As I have said here before, “you don’t have to like the man, and you don’t have to like his politics, but at the end of the day he is still President. And for God’s sake, leave the man’s family out of it”. Everybody reveling in Trump’s win and thinking the flea bitten hippies protesting are stupid, well, guess what, the left thought the same about the “patriots” protesting Obama. The right will get tone deaf, just like the left did and then we’ll get comrade Sanders. There are no more moderates who want to work together for the good of the country, just sides. Glad I live overseas so I can tune all this crap out.
Or after 12-16 years of two extremes, we’ll get a tweener.
2/17, I hope you’re right. I think moderates, like Howard Baker, are long gone. No more statesmen, only people who casually toss a turd grenade on the table and watch the mayhem. They are resident on both sides of the aisle too.
“And what do you call that color which is darker than pink but not really quite red? Raspberry? Claret? Purplish, sorta bluish kinda pink? I dunno, and still don’t care.”
Ditto. There is red. There is pink. There may be a purple. The Russian can rattle off the 32 color gradations between blue and green. I know three: blue, green, bluish green. She doesn’t get it that I don’t get it. And, as you, I don’t care. The Weather Channel had a map this AM on which they referenced the color fuschia. There is no fuschia. There is red, pink and maybe purple. No fuschia.
Buying a car? I want silver. No, not silvery stainless steel, which I’m told “is pretty and would like nice in our garage”. Silver. No silver models on the lot? NP. Call me when there is one on the lot. Silver. I want silver.
“Buying a car? I want silver. No, not silvery stainless steel, which I’m told “is pretty and would like nice in our garage”. Silver. No silver models on the lot? NP. Call me when there is one on the lot. Silver. I want silver.”
NO SHIT!! I get SO DAMNED SICK of salesmouths and their fancy-speak that it takes ALL of my self control to keep me from telling them to go fuck themselves and speak to me in plain English.
I’m late to the party but I don’t want to post here while I’m at work. Been reflecting on things and I think Lars actually has a point.
Here’s the thing: A lot of the crying liberals had this grand vision in their head. Hillary was going to become President and they would finally start seeing their progressive utopia come to pass.
Look, laugh if you want at the number of women protesting for rights they already have. If enough of them get mobilized and play on the failures that are going to happen during this administration, we could find ourselves with pussyhatters in office.
Let’s enjoy the victory but not be complacent. There are years of deprogramming we have ahead of us.
I’m not complacent about anything. I do not take anything for granted.
These women are acting out of ignorance. They get stirred up by people who know how to work a crowd into a frenzy and we see the destructive results. Unfortunately for them, the tolerance level for constant wrangling and disrupting the lives of people who may simply want to get to work is dropping rapidly. People were arrested on Tuesday for demonstrating in Chicago’s Loop – again. Now they will have to appear in court and pay fines.
This isn’t the 1960s or 1970s when the protests against the draft and the Vietnam war were underway. The media did its best to widen the divide between protesters and the rest of us back then. That was an entirely different thing, which coincided with the civil rights movement.
This entire business of protesting is built on air and ignorance. When these silly women are told they already have the rights they are seeking, they’re mystified. They have been dragged into believing that they don’t have them, even though they may have gone to the polls and voted in November.
They do not make the connection at all. This is the problem and the media feeds into it.
No, I do not take anything for granted about what is going on.