Parents deal with criminal son’s death….poorly

| November 3, 2016

Michael Grace Jr

We wrote the other day about the the fellow, Michael Grace Jr, who was shot to death when he tried to rob a Pizza Hut in Charlotte, North Carolina. His parents, Temia Hairston and Michael Grace Sr., discussed it with WBTV. They, of course, can’t understand why their son was killed by a Pizza Hut employee;

“If there was to be a death, it was not the place of the employee at Pizza Hut. That is the place of law enforcement,” said Hairston.

Hairston and Grace Sr acknowledged that their son was breaking the law by robbing the business, and said they definitely don’t condone what he did.

“It was an act of desperation, but I do not believe that Michael would have hurt anyone,” said Hairston.

They said Grace Jr had fallen on hard times and resorted to crime to provide for his own child.

They obviously don’t see the killing of their son as an act of self-defense, but some sort of retribution.

She said her son was shot in the head, and she thinks the shooting may have even been personal, citing past conflicts Grace Jr had had with other employees at the restaurant.

“This wasn’t a body shot. This was a head shot. My son was shot in the left side of his head just behind his ear. A headshot is personal,” said Hairston.

Even though their son was in the process of committing a crime, the family thinks his death was undeserved and unjustified.

“Even a criminal has a right to a degree,” said Grace Sr. “I’m not advocating what my son did.”

There is so much about this that reflects the current attitude in this country that criminals are somehow justified, that the criminal deserves more consideration than his intended victims. There are social programs that were created to prevent folks from turning to a life of crime to support their families. She wonders why the employee had a gun, but she is not wondering why Grace had a gun.

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Graybeard

Dear parents of perps:
You can blame your child. You can blame yourself.
Do not blame the innocent.

Your raised a stupid son. He played stupid games and won a stupid prize. Don’t double down on the stupid.

You are going full retard…

CWORet

^Word.

desert

talk about a couple of idiots! Its not the place of a pizza hut employee, it should have been a cop, that way we could yell prejudice and black lives matter! What yoyo’s!!

Jumpmaster

If Mr. Grace was truly trying to support his child, he could have submitted a job application to that same Pizza Hut. In reality, he was just another thug.

Yef

Whoa, the guy robbed a place where everybody knew him?

Darwin award!

jonp

Since he was armed I’m thinking that would not have ended well for the former co-workers and management.

desert

No kidding! he would have shot anyone that could i.d. him!!

tc

Was thinking the same…maybe not just a robbery

Ex-PH2

So sonny boy had never heard of food pantries and social services? He had to go rob a pizza joint to ‘provide’ for his kid?

What a load of C.R.A.P.

ex-OS2

“If there was to be a death, it was not the place of the employee at Pizza Hut. That is the place of law enforcement,” said Hairston.”

Bullshit. If the cops had shot him, they would be blaming the cops.

“This wasn’t a body shot. This was a head shot. My son was shot in the left side of his head just behind his ear. A headshot is personal,” said Hairston.”

Maybe the Pizza Hut guy’s aim sucked ass.

The parents seem to forget the word “consequence”.

Hack Stone

No, I would say that would be a pretty good shot. I just hope that the gunshot did not mar the fade on his haircut, because closed casket funerals are a real downer.

MSG Eric

A headshot also means you don’t have to deal with a long drawn out trial with an extenuation of the “my son was a good boy, he never hurt nobody!” rubbish going on.

I agree, that is a pretty good shot. When someone points a gun at you, you can either shoot back or die.

Sparks

^THIS^

Make sure there’s only one story told…YOURS!

Eden

The money quote right here: “When someone points a gun at you, you can either shoot back or die.”

LRRP2

And the last thing that went through his mind was ……………..????

MSG Eric

“Am I really going to die of lead poisoning from pizza hut?”

Graybeard

Win

Kriste

SO much win!

Yef

“He was not supposed to have a gun!”

nbcguy54ACTUAL

A 9mm hollow-point slug?

ex-OS2

I always thought “shoot for center mass” was the most effective way to put someone down. But, a bullet in the head works too. lol.

USAF Ret

Guns and Real Estate; they are both all about:

Location, location and location.

Pam

Spew alert next time please!

2/17 Air Cav

I am waiting to learn that the employee was an off-duty cop.

MSG Eric

Or maybe a veteran or a reserve military member.

swormy

Speaking of Reserve Military Members, we had one who was assigned supporting a weapons training unit in San Antonio several years ago during OIF.

Someone tried breaking into the apartment he rented. The Soldier put three center mass into his chest when he entered through the window he broke into, in the dark.

I had to speak to the police to ensure it was justified. The officer assured me it was, and off the record he stated it was impressive shooting.

Evidently the perp had an extensive record for B&E and violent robbery.

He stated our Soldier deserved a Medal and a box of bullets.

SFC D

If you are pointing a gun at me, you’re damn right a headshot is personal! Daddy needs repeated application of a cluebat until reality kicks in.

Sparks

I have a “dipshit-dumbass adjustment tool” in my trunk for just such occasions.

Frankie Cee "In the Clear"

I guess that I would be accused of “retaliation” if I ever have to “do the deed”. All my range time, every. single. shot. is meant to hit a “head sized” target. A center mass shot by me would be because I was “fast firing” and the distance was closing fast.

Claymore

I hate that their son is dead…as a parent, I can’t imagine that pain, but the circumstances surrounding his death are a bit of an occupational hazard, are they not? Also, the mother asks what Pizza Hut’s policy on armed employees happens to be…while we’re at it, let’s ask them what their policy is on armed assholes showing up and robbing their restaurants at the point of a gun.

Hondo

You are far more forgiving than I am, Claymore.

If you threaten another individual with deadly force, you are also taking the risk that they will respond in kind. As you noted, every armed robber threatens others with deadly force while committing their crimes.

I shed no tears when an armed robber gets plugged and dies. It’s true that every one of them is someone’s child – but the same is true of their intended victims. And when they choose to be an armed criminal, the fact that they’re someone’s child becomes irrelevant regarding the circumstances of their crimes – and here, of their death.

CWORet

Not so sure I’d be real worried of losing my crappy minimum wage job defending myself. That’s just me though.

CWORet

Not that I think you were insinuating that, Clay.

Mayhem

I would not be surprised if in the next few days we see in the media that the employee was terminated from Pizza Hut. Seems to be the way Liberal America responds to acts of self preservation.

Silentium Est Aureum

These people are about as fucking stupid as the person down in Florida who opined when learning of her cousin’s death, “How he supposed to get money for clothes and stuff?”

Sadly, it shows that there are a lot more members of the Dindunuffin Tribe than previously thought.

Doc Savage

Why did the employee have a gun? perhaps because of people like your son….

2/17 Air Cav

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Doc Savage

To rob the Turkey on the other side?

USMCMSgt (Ret)

The employee probably knew he would be back and was prepared for it.

The perp probably got fired for skimming the register or for being a general shitbag… or something.

2/17 Air Cav

“They said Grace Jr had fallen on hard times and resorted to crime to provide for his own child.” Bwahahahahahahahah. Oh. Sorry. I guess it’s in bad taste to laugh but I either laugh or curse when I hear bullshit. This time I laughed.

Sparks

My money says, his child and child’s mother are both on welfare pulling in the full freight. Provide for his child my ass.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Fuck… what the FUCK! Damn, I can understand the grief over losing a family member, but comethefuckon!?!?

Memo to the Grace’s – not everyone resorts to CRIME when they have fallen on “hard times” Also, it’s because of these “hard times” and the mindset of people like you that individuals feel the need to care a firearm with them – for protecting themselves from idiots like your deceased son. Your son made a stupid decision – and he paid the price for it.

ChipNASA

I agree with Claymore and 2/17 Air Cav here….


Green Thumb

Stupid and sad.

No winners here.

But I agree, these days criminals have more rights that honest working folks.

And I imagine that Pizza Hut employee was not making millions,either. I wonder if that employee was working to support his/her family as well?

Mike

The guy who put the rabid dog down = winner.

MSG Eric

If he was really desperate and looking for help, he could’ve either applied for a job, OR waited until they were closing and asked for the pizza they have to cook before they throw it out.

Each pizza hut restaurant throws out a dozen or more pizzas a night that have to be cooked to get them out of the pans so those pans can be washed. I worked there for almost a year and know all too well.

He wasn’t desperate for food or a real job though. He wanted “cash money” and street cred. He wanted to get money the easy way. Sometimes the easy way fights back.

SFC D

These… “parents”… are complicit in the death of their son. They created the man he became and even seem to have approved of his lifestyle. No tears will be shed here, no fucks will be given.

deckie

It’s always too hard to just say, “we apologize for the emotional distress this caused the victims of the robbery…” and move on… it’s never their own idiot offspring’s fault for their stupid choices. Next thing you’ll see is photos of him blasted all over the web in 6th or 8th grade looking all innocent and sweet.

CWORet

Nope. Not One Fuck Given.

1610desig

Few surprises here…SOP for the melanin enhanced…rather glad the thug was dispatched early in his felonious career…the “parents” (plural IS a surprise) can think or say anything they want…I’m just fine with the outcome…

Skippy

WTF !!!!!!

Skippy

Damn my post was supposed to be solo to the article and not your comment sorry about that

Perry Gaskill

What kind of righteous criminal robs a Pizza Hut?

Back in the day, it was fairly common to contact family members for a comment in a crime, but difficult to get any to go on the record. Most simply wanted to be left alone to suffer in private. Or a parent might say that no matter how hard you try to raise a kid right, sometimes they go off the rails.

Nowhere, at least it seems to me, is there an indication Grace Jr’s parents are willing to accept such a responsibility. There’s also the question that if Grace had hit such hard financial times trying to raise a kid of his own, why weren’t they willing to help him out?

The story also seems weak in balance. It makes a sort of lackluster effort by providing boilerplate PR from Pizza Hut and the cops, but apparently makes no real effort to give the other side of the story. Contacting those who were closer to the circumstances of the robbery, even if they had to go off the record, might have provided a clearer picture.

Also, what happens to Grace Jr’s own kid now, and where’s the mother?

Frankie Cee "In the Clear"

Most likely, Grace Jr. didn’t live with the kid and the mother, as is also the case with the parents. Using different last names is not proof positive, but “given the odds”, they are only shown together because of the incident, and are working this to get the bucks from Pizza Hut’s insurer that the kid was trying to get from the store.
I see Crocodile Tears.

Daisy Cutter

Sorry for being so slow, but —

Was he robbing the Pizza Hut for money?

Or a double-stuffed crust pizza with a side of garlic knots?

ex-OS2

“Or a double-stuffed crust pizza with a side of garlic knots?”

and cinnamon sticks with white icing.

On a side note, check out the Pizza Hut menu on the UK or UAE site.

I am pissed….

Keepin' It Real

EMPLOYEE: I’m sorry, sir, but there’s a 10 minute wait on the cinnamon sticks with white icing drizzle. Would you like to wait or bust a cap off in me now?

Keepin' It Real

Kind of has the smell of “Does Pizza Hut have a policy against employees having a firearm while at work?”

Sounds terrible on the surface, but it could get Pizza Hut to open up their wallets to make it go away. Then if they do establish a policy, Pizza Hut will become the Chicago gun-free zone of pizza franchises.

Deplorable B Woodman

(George Burns), “Say goodnight, Gracie.”

Doc Savage

Heh…I see what ya did there…..well played.

Sparks

“If there was to be a death, it was not the place of the employee at Pizza Hut. That is the place of law enforcement,” said Hairston.

And had it been Law Enforcement, it would then have become another “Black Lives Matter” issue.

“This wasn’t a body shot. This was a head shot. My son was shot in the left side of his head just behind his ear. A headshot is personal,” said Hairston.

No, a head shot just means it was the first and best available target to a threatened for their life, potential victim of your criminal son. A potential victim who just happened to be a good shot as well.

Hondo

No, a head shot just means it was the first and best available target to a threatened for their life, potential victim of your criminal son. A potential victim who just happened to be a good shot as well.

Well, either that or the armed potential victim shot high and got lucky. Regardless, the potential victim was OK afterwards and the perp wasn’t.

Bill M

Which was the better result.

CWORet

“Well, either that or the armed potential victim shot high and got lucky.”

OR… the douche bag turned somewhat and looked away, giving the employee enough time to draw, extend his arm over the counter, and place an impeccable shot from inches away. Either way, “Game Over, Man!”.

Graybeard

I just noticed: in the pic at top Hairston appears to be looking at her phone.

Is she getting talking points from Clinton, Inc.?

UpNorth

“If there was to be a death, it was not the place of the employee at Pizza Hut. That is the place of law enforcement,”. Sounds like talking points right out of the Clintoon Campaign and Doomberg’s goofy organization to me.

NotBuyingIt

“Sounds like talking points right out of the Clintoon Campaign and Doomberg’s goofy organization to me”

You’ve got that right. In their view, the state should have a monopoly on force – so long as they control the state.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Sorry to tell you this mommy, but with all due respect your dead son represents a safer community for the rest of us.

How did that poor clerk know if your boy wasn’t there to rob and kill the work crew, you fucking idiot of a mother?

Maybe if you’d done a better job with your baby boy he wouldn’t have been a shit bag armed robber in a position to be shot dead during the commission of an armed robbery, fuck you and your idiot husband and good fucking riddance to your shit bag kid.

akpual

Frank and to the point.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

I should add, “Nobody out pizzas the Hut, or in this case out guns them”…

Hondo

Agreed. Jabba gets truly ornery when someone threatens to take his dinner. (smile)

The Al

“Or else Pizza’s going to send out for you!”

Jay

Spaceballs reference in even the most difficult of times. Respect good Sir, I tip my hat to you.

The Other Whitey

“You went over my helmet?”

https://youtu.be/20soJuwWFH4

MSG Eric

“Oh great, just what we need. A Druish Princess.”

The Al

Funny, she doesn’t look Druish.

Silentium Est Aureum

I am your father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate.

What does that make us?

Absolutely nothing! Which is what you are about to become.

NotBuyingIt

In the link Jonn provided, I found no indication that Grace or any of the perpetrators were armed, plus the crime was referred to as merely “robbery.” I had to click through to a previous story to find any reference to Grace having a gun on him.

It seems to me the reporter(s) went out of his/her/their way to hide that fact, trying tried to make him look like a victim.

Whether intentional or not, this type bias is built into today’s “journalists”

The Al

Keep in mind- the article also refers to the dead thug as the “victim”- ignoring the fact that he was in the middle of committing a crime.

NotBuyingIt

You are correct. I should have said “trying to make him look MORE like a victim.”

Mick

OK, so let’s see what we have here.

In the linked article above, the parents of a Pizza Hut robbery suspect question why an employee shot and killed their son.

Hmmmm. Well, Temia and Michael Sr., it’s actually very simple. This all happened because your gangsta-wannabe, punk-ass thug son tried to rob the subject Pizza Hut at gun point, and as a result he was justifiably killed by a well-placed shot to the head.

So, your son is not the ‘saintly martyred victim’ that you would like to have him portrayed as.

And neither are either of you. You are both directly responsible for your son’s violent death. Perhaps you should have done a better job of raising him as a productive, functioning member of society, rather than as the feral, animalistic thug that he turned out to be.

Nothing to see here. Good riddance.

Jay

I used to live in Charlotte and worked off of Freedom. I know EXACTLY where that Pizza Hut is. No wonder the employee was carrying. Kudos to the him for keeping composure and dropping a well aimed shot. Sorry mom/dad; your son was apparently an asshole and played the world’s stupidest game and won the world’s most permanent prize.

CWORet

I liked your comment, Jay.
Well, would have liked it if we had a ‘like’ button…

FatCircles0311

Sounds like somebody told son to rob a pizza place because workers weren’t armed.

Fuck this family. They are a bunch of scumfucks.

Hack Stone

Last Christmas Donkey Cartel released his last sing, which was #1 with a bullet. Now this guy gets served his last slice of pizza. It’s getting tough to be an oppressed minority in Charlotte NC.

Hack Stone

So he was going to rob a restaurant where he previously worked? Of course, he would never think of killing the employees present since they could identify him.

2/17 Air Cav

What is really bothering them is that there is no police officer to blame, so baby momma gets no free toilet paper at CVS and the chances of a successful lawsuit against Pizza Hut is zip.

A Proud Infidel®™

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Excuse the mudda-fuck outta me for not shedding a tear while his parents play the “OH, POOR ME!!!” game.

2/17 Air Cav

“Order up! Who’s got the large cheese with brain matter?”

PJS

“I tried to fire a warning shot, but his head got in the way,”

CWORet

Plausible. I’d go with statement (slightly re-worded) in response to the investigators question.

CWORet

that statement. fat fingers, not so smart phone.

Sonjay

I’m glad the armed thug got shot dead. Live a thug life, die a thug life. Those two “parents” should have raised a citizen, not a thug. They have only themselves and their own son to blame for his timely death.

The Other Whitey

When someone waves a gun in for face, he’s demonstrating intent or at least willingness to murder you. You don’t have the luxury of giving him the benefit of the doubt and thinking about whether he’d really do it or not. Here’s a scenario for Mr. & Mrs. Shitbag-Senior: Their son busts into Pizza Hut and points a gun at the cashier, demanding the contents of the register. What should the cashier do? By their logic, the cashier should’ve told him to fuck off and asked for the next customer in line. If your answer is “Do what he says,” then you’re admitting that he WOULD hurt or kill you otherwise, in which case any good guy with a gun is 100% justified to smoke his ass. He got shot in the head because he threatened to do the same to someone else, and made the mistake of doing so in front of somebody who was armed and competent. There was nothing “personal” about it. The shooter recognized a situation that required the use of deadly force to prevent harm to innocent people, and applied it accordingly. I’ll quote one of the men who taught me to shoot (this guy is a now-retired police officer who has shot and killed scumbags who tried to do the same to him first): “A gun is a deadly instrument that you never point at anything you’re not willing to kill. Generally speaking, you shouldn’t draw unless you think you need to use it for that purpose, because drawing your gun ALWAYS escalates the situation. So you shouldn’t draw unless you’ve already decided that you need to kill him.” Grace escalated the situation to lethal violence when he threatened others with his weapon. So he fell on hard times. This ain’t Ireland in the potato famine. There are jobs available he could’ve picked up, maybe not jobs he liked, but they are out there. Failing that, this country doesn’t let people starve. Church groups, charities, and government social programs are literally EVERYWHERE to help people who really can’t help themselves, and useless fucks who… Read more »

Hack Stone

I’ll bet Psaul’s left testicle that the recently deceased was receiving government assistance. And an extensive criminal record.

The Al

I say the employee lives by another quote from Firefly- “Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill ’em right back!”

Jabatam

I’m pretty sure Mal was just a sergeant

O-4E

Fucking trash parents of a trash child

All of them trash

110% they are Killary voters

Worthless animals

Eden

And Junior will probably vote at least three times for Hillary next week.

Poetrooper

If you read far enough in the article you’ll see that there were THREE perps involved which makes this a GANGSTA robbery. If all were armed then the tools got outgunned by one armed citizen. Do you really suppose all three of the gangstas were merely trying to care for their offspring?

As for the employee packing, there’s a bar right across the street called “Da Spot” so it may be the neighborhood made it a reasonable caution to carry a weapon. What I’d like to know is the race of the employee/shooter, something that could explain the dynamics of this situation better.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Rounds on target.

2/17 Air Cav

More good news that just now dawned on me. He wasn’t alone in robbing the place. Guess who is eligible to be charged with his death (i.e., 1st degree murder) under the felony murder rule?

Hondo

That would be his accomplices, since NC indeed appears to have a felony murder statute.

I’m OK with that. Hope they enjoy a long incarceration.

2/17 Air Cav

Yeah, the state has it. The attempted robbery occurred after hours, likely while the night’s receipts were being tallied. That explains the former employee connection and also suggests to me that the trio weren’t going to leave any live witnesses; thus, the lights-out shot by the employee, who is now on a leave of absence.

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HMC Ret

The following will take place, in no particular order:

Civil lawsuit in 3 – 2 – 1
The ‘reverend’ al showing up in 3 – 2 – 1
DOJ showing up in 3 – 2 -1

After all, this is a classic ‘hate crime’ against unemployed, disadvantaged ‘youts’ of color.

HMC Ret

The shooter NEEDS a lawyer. You know the parents are going to go after him, provided he has any assets. Same with Pizza Hut, but they have plenty of lawyers.

The parents will argue it’s against PH policy to carry a handgun. They will use that against both the shooter and PH.

Ex-PH2

He can countersue and use self-defense as his argument. Assets? He works at Pizza Hut. His assets probably consist of taking home two boxes of the last large ones with extra pepperoni after his shift is over.

Naw, they’ll go after Pizza Hut because PH has more assets than its employees and they’re just looking to line their own pockets with ‘he was a good boy, he always brought money home, he was just there to get a pizza’ – except that he had other people with him as accomplices.

IDC SARC

Nothing’s going to happen to him in NC…it was a good shoot.

IDC SARC

…as far as his job Pizza hut…well that’s up in the air…could go either way, but losing a job at pizza hut???…considering what he did he’s probably already getting better offers.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

….from the local PD or Army recruiters.

IDC SARC

not necessarily just jobs requiring a firearm. His actions exhibit valuable KSAs beyond just the weapon.

Weekend Warrior in Texas

Yeah, The possibility of any employees that were in the Pizza Hut during the robbery surviving would be poor since the dead guy had worked there. It is not unusual for armed robbers to kill witnesses, particularly when they know the perp. I also remember NC having harsher penalties for armed robbery than murder back in the 70s. People complained that this gave robbers more incentive to eliminate witnesses since they would be charged for murder if caught and serve less time. One article I read about this crime had the mother saying the Pizza Hut should have been angus free zone. Silly woman, her son would not have been able to attempt to armed rob the place if he were not allowed to bring his gun.

Weekend Warrior in Texas

Oops, not angus free. Gun free. Pinche auto-correct.

Ex-PH2

Angus-free?!? Oh, I am SO borrowing that!

Weekend Warrior from Texas

Bitte

IDC SARC

Fuck those assholes at WBTV for interviewing the criminal’s parents…interview the guy that shot him and probably saved lives. Give him a community service award, a scholarship, beer…something.

Fuck Charlotte NC and all their false narrative perpophiliacs.

2/17 Air Cav

He’ll probably be fired. He may face retribution from the Teddy Bear and Candle mob.

IDC SARC

If he wasn’t already…probably not. Some employers value employees like this.

I carry to protect not to rob

So if the parents knew their son was desperate to support his child, then why didn’t they help him and their grandchild? Why did they allow him to be raised to believe its better to rob than to get a job. The parents must be uneducated because they obviously are shitty parents before death and even more so after the death of their son. They are looking for handouts and sympathy, probably the reason why their son felt that it was ok to rob. That family is dysfunctional and I hope that the criminals child learns not to be as stupid as his/her father and grandparents.

Tony180a

Just a criminal doing criminal shit.