Mabus defends ships’ names

| September 15, 2016

Mabus

The Navy Secretary, Ray Mabus, has made it his life’s purpose to piss off as many veterans as he can by passing over the names of real heroes for the Navy’s newest vessels for less likely social justice warriors instead. The Associated Press asked him about that;

“I have named ships after presidents. I have named ships after members of Congress who have been forceful advocates for the Navy and Marine Corps,” Mabus said in a recent interview. “But I think you have to represent all the values that we hold as Americans, that we hold as a country. And so that’s why I’ve named ships the Medgar Evers, Cesar Chavez, John Lewis, the Harvey Milk. Because these are American heroes too, just in a different arena.”

Medgar Evers served in the Army, Cesar Chavez said that his time in the Navy was “the worst two years of my life”, John Lewis and Gabby Giffords never spent a day in any service.

“He has made some, what people would consider exceptions to the rules, because in his view it was the right thing to do to reach out to different communities in the country,” said David Winkler, of the Naval Historical Foundation.

Because “community out reach” is more important than honoring actual service.

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AW1Ed

These idiots can’t leave quickly enough.

thebesig

I joined the Navy at the tail end of the Cold War, and saw the social experimentation changes get implemented at the expense of good old school leadership and military way of doing things.

Those who came in after me are either at the top of the enlisted ranks, or on their way there. Officers that came in after me are anywhere from the equivalent of senior majors to colonel equivalent. They’re making their way to the flag ranks.

Their “military culture” and “military mindset” is different from what many of us have. They came in starting in the mid 1990s and were exposed to the “touchy feely don’t hurt their feelings” philosophy. They’re essentially the first military generation that bought into the very mindset that Ray Mabus is expressing.

I’m afraid that the madness isn’t going to end, but get worse. Unfortunately, that shit is bleeding into the Army ranks. I’ve experienced round two of the “You’re creating a hostile working environment” in response to my applying old school military leadership/infantry style leadership.

OC

Serious question here – can a ship ever be “un-named”?

Atkron

That would really screw up 1MC announcements:

Ding Ding, Ding Ding “______ Arriving”

Ex-PH2

Okay, that ‘creating a hostile working environment’ notion is going to get people killed.

I find it difficult to understand how anyone expects a military force to be successful at defense when it’s told/trained/taught to surrender on demand. How is that going to keep people safe?

I know: it isn’t. But I live in the real world, like the rest of you, and I have no intention of surrendering to slaughter without a fight.

desert

Tweedledum is too freaking STUPID to be able to walk the streets unattended…what an A.H.!!!

IDC SARC

“But I think…”

therein lies the problem.

2banana

Harvey Milk was a pedophile and a rapist. But we just ignore that because he was gay.

Hack Stone

Would Sean Penn make a movie glorifying a deviant?

David

Does anyone else actually remember that? I sure do… the headlines screamed that the mayor of SanFran, Moscone (sp?) was assassinated in City Hall…. and at the end of the articles ‘a supervisor, Harvey Milk, was also killed in the attack.’ All the hooraw over that is pure revisionism.

Mick

Shack.

All of the Harvey Milk bullshit is a complete false narrative from the LGBT community that has made Harvey Milk into a “martyr for the cause” that he never was.

Doug REID

Milk = MLK Jr., to LGBTQQ tribe.

desert

WTF happened to naming ships after M.O.H. awardees?? Too complicated for this pencil neck asshole?

Dana1371

Supervisor White used the “twinkie defense” after shooting both the Mayor and Milk. He got five years in prison.

Hack Stone

Not close, so no cigar.

http://www.snopes.com/legal/twinkie.asp

Just An Old Dog

People also overlook that Milk drove two of his “partners” to commit suicide because he was suck a cock monger.

The Other Whitey

Sean Penn IS a deviant, so…

2/17 Air Cav

…so any home movie will do.

Hondo

Milk also had some, um, “interesting” political allies. Do the names “Reverend Jim Jones” and “Peoples’ Temple” ring a bell?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones#Move_to_San_Francisco

68W58

Shh now-we’re not supposed to point out how close certain leftist heroes were to that lunatic (the cultish nature of the left itself is also somehow off limits).?

Noted nonentity Diane Feinstein also got her “big break” via the Milk/Moscone shootings, as she was elevated to Mayor which was her springboard to the Senate.

The Jonestown mass suicide and the shooting in the mayor’s office occurred less than 10 days apart in 1978.

USMCMSgt (Ret)

What’s next? Proposing the development of a “LGBT Class” destroyer or landing assault platform?

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Those would mesh nicely with the current Clitorial class they have…

swormy

Would that class of ship be a “Transformer” like in the movies?

Ex-PH2

Ick. Shut up, mabus.

Yef

I hope President Trump fire all these clowns.

Vic

This part of the new SECNAV’s job will be obsolete as all new vessels will be named after Trump.

Doug REID

Ahahahaha!

Yef

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Yef

Eh, img codes don’t work in this site?
How do you post a jpg file?

Perry Gaskill
Perry Gaskill

I just tried one that blew up using a conventional HTML image source tag pointing to Mabus at the top of the post. It didn’t work which means embedding images directly into comments might be turned off.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Revisionist history doesn’t change reality unless we let it become the de facto replacement history.

Mabus is a fucking douche nozzle of the first degree, pretending that some shit heads represent the best and brightest among our nation’s minority or gay communities does a tremendous disservice to those minority and gay people who actually do represent the best our nation has to offer but don’t possess the popularity of the revisionist horseshit about jagoffs like Chavez and Milk et al…

Everything this fucking idiot touches turns to shit, that says more about his boss than it does about him. Mabus is just being Mabus, he can’t help himself or stop himself from being a total asshole it’s what he is, but his boss has always had the power to put an end to this asshole’s time on the government teat.

Lazy and entitled seems to be the new standard for success under this administration.

Green Thumb

What a turd.

The Navy wing/annex will be a rockin’ when he leaves.

Party to you puke!

SFC D

Gabby Giffords was a great representative for her district (where I live) even though she was on the other side of the aisle. She had my respect even when I didn’t agree with her stand. Doesn’t mean I want a ship named after her. And Mark Kelly? Eat a dick.

2/17 Air Cav

SFC D. But she got shotted! She’s a hero ’cause she got shotted. She nearly gave her life for some votes.

Green Thumb

Mabus has been “shotted”.

In the ass.

Instinct

Gee, Poodledick hasn’t made an appearance to defend this piece of shit.

swormy

Dont get him started, I like the peace and quiet…

A Proud Infidel®™

WTF is he gonna propose next, the USS Jane Fonda? It’s one of the few things left he hasn’t done to fuck things up worse than he already has.

Sparks

The USS Jane Fonda with a bunch of USS Tom Haydens inside.

USMCMSgt (Ret)

…or “USS William C. Ayers”

Perry Gaskill

Not to suggest you be paranoid or anything, API, but every morning Barry wakes up, pats Michelle on the ass, and thinks to himself, “How can I fuck with A Proud Infidel today?”

And then he picks up the phone… 😎

Mick

USS LIBERACE

USS SEAN PENN

USS BEYONCE

USS RICHARD SIMMONS

USS RUPAUL

USS ROSIE O’DONNELL

USS KIM KARDASHIAN

USS ANTHONY WEINER

USS MATT DAMON

USS DENNIS RODMAN

USS ELTON JOHN

USS FREDDIE MERCURY

USS OPRAH WINFREY

USS GEORGE CLOONEY

USS ELLEN DEGENERES

USS PEEWEE HERMAN

USS CHRIS MATTHEWS

USS BARBRA STREISAND

USS NANCY PELOSI

USS YOKO ONO

USS COLIN KAEPERNICK

USS JOSEF STALIN

USS MILEY CYRUS

USS BATMAN & ROBIN

USS FOGHORN LEGHORN

USS RACHEL MADDOW

USS GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS

USS TOM CRUISE

USS SNOOP DOGG

USS HONEY BOO BOO

The possibilities are endless…

2/17 Air Cav

I would strike USS BATMAN & ROBIN and
USS FOGHORN LEGHORN. They are legit and Foghorn liked his chicken.

Mick

You are correct, sir. An unfortunate oversight on my part; I apologize.

May I suggest substituting the following instead:

USS JERRY SPRINGER

USS BRIAN WILLIAMS

2/17 Air Cav

They’ll work!

The Other Whitey

At this rate, we might even see a USS Commissar. [Profuse vomiting]

68W58
Blaster

You forgot the:

USS Tupak Shakur

USS BLM (and I don’t mean bureau of land mgmt)

USS Katie Couric

Doug REID

Honestly, there will come a day when former POTUS Mr.’s Carter, Clinton and Obama names will come up . . . Alas.

Ex-PH2

Okay, well, here’s the list of those names:

USS Peanutfarm

USS Illinois City (Look it up)

USS Bodaprez

Any questions???

A Proud Infidel®™

Well there IS the USS Jimmy Carter which is a Nuke Sub and its lesser known companion ship, the USS Walter Mondale. It shadows the USS Jimmy Carter and goes belly-up whenever the USS Ronald Reagan is nearby.

Ex-PH2

If I send that asshole enough money, can I get a ship named after me?

Graybeard

And appointed to an Ambassadorship as well.

Cyber O-3E

USS Bernath

Hack Stone

The USS Bernath, a garbage scow, only has enough fuel to crash into pier.

The Other Whitey

I thought USS Bernath was the leaky rowboat that got dumped on the garbage scow.

Hack Stone

The USS Phil Monkress steals battle streamers from the other ships, then sends a lucky tug boat out to defend it.

2/17 Air Cav

USS Polident. (It’s that pic of Mabel.)

Hack Stone

I am eagerly looking forward to the christening of the USS Elaine Ricci.

2/17 Air Cav

According to NBCNews, when Lewis was visited by Mabel and was told that a ship would be named after him, Lewis asked, “How can you do this?” Mabel replied, “I am the Secretary of the Navy; I have the power.”

I have the power.

MSG Eric

Well, as Public Enema once sang, “Fight the Power!”

lily

I’m surprised he hasn’t named a few “USS Marx” and “USS Lenin”.

Mick

Although “USS GROUCHO MARX” might be a player.

RGR 4-78

“Because these are American heroes too, just in a different arena.”

Fine, then name a f#@king convention center after them.

2/17 Air Cav

Better still, when kids want to buy Harvey Milk or Cesar Chavez video games, or dress as either one for Halloween, I’m in.

2/17 Air Cav

The Harvey Milk action figure. Hardin has to have one somewhere.

UpNorth

Fuck Mabus. With a pineapple. A frozen pineapple. Fronds first, after dipping them in Vick’s VapoRub.

A Proud Infidel®™

Add some Dave’s Insanity hot sauce and insert it sideways after wrapping it in asbestos!

B Woodman

(THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE)

Atkron

Did this idiot ever serve?

The Other Whitey

I thought he spent some time on a cruiser that was drydocked for long-term overhaul for his entire time aboard. A sailor whose boat wasn’t even in the water!

Hondo

And his oars haven’t really been in the water since.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

A little known fact is that the Army also has a few ships. But so far, we’ve named ours after people, not ideals….

jonp

A new Sec of Navy can rename the ships could he/she not?

Chavez was a liar, a Saul Alinsky accolite and a union thug who condoned violence to get what he wanted.

Rep Lewis at least was a force in The Civil Rights Movement but since has drifted far left and wants to take our 2cd Amendment Rights away

Milk won one election over dog poop, loved teenage boys, in fact living with a 16yr old, lied to get what he wanted, was quite the admirer of Jim Jones of Kool Aid Fame and was not killed for being gay but in a dispute over a seat on the city council.

Giffords of course never served and has lately been trying to deprive us of our 2cd Amendment rights. If she had any intellectual honesty or decency she would decline the honor.

M. Evers served honorably in The Army in WW2. Why is the Navy naming a ship after an Army Vet? At least he was honorably discharged after fighting in Europe

SFC D

That’s not Gabby you see on TV. That’s what’s left of Gabby. A political marionette used by Mark Kelly to promote himself and his agenda. She deserves better.

The Other Whitey

Agreed. I don’t think she changed her mind. I think she doesn’t know what she thinks since her injury, and her two-faced sure-to-be-fooling-around dickbag of a husband is taking full advantage of her condition.

Green Thumb

The USS Manning or USS Snowden.

Or knowing Mabus, The USS LBGT.

Shitbag.

TankBoy

So nobody on the left is going to bitch when a republican SECNAV names ships after Jerry Falwell, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, and Mark Levine? Fair game? You gotta feel bad for the plank owners of some of these boats. How do you take pride in being a plank owner for the John Murtha? Do they have frame ABSCAM documents nicely framed on the bulkheads of the blue deck?
This SECNAV is a damned disgrace.

HMC Ret

I’ll be happy when Trump or his SecNav appointee renames the ships.