Brown tightens gun laws in California

| July 2, 2016

I know it seems impossible, but apparently there was room for Governor Sparkle Pony Brown of California to tighten gun laws there, according to ABC7;

Gov. Jerry Brown signed six stringent gun-control measures Friday that will require people to turn in high-capacity magazines and mandate background checks for ammunition sales, as California Democrats seek to strengthen gun laws that are already among the strictest in the nation.

Brown vetoed five other bills, including requirement to register homemade firearms and report lost or stolen weapons to authorities.

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In another attempt to slow reloading, the governor signed a bill outlawing new weapons that have a device known as a bullet button. Gun makers developed bullet buttons to get around a California’s assault weapons ban, which prohibited new rifles with magazines that can be detached without the aid of tools. A bullet buttons allows a shooter to quickly dislodge the magazine using the tip of a bullet or other small tool.

The New York Times hails Brown for exploiting two terrorist attacks to restrict gun owners even more than they were already. Laughingly, they call Brown a “moderate Democrat”.

Even as he signed six measures, Mr. Brown, a moderate Democrat with a history of resistance to some measures of gun control, vetoed five others that he described as overly regulative. Among them was a bill that would have restricted gun purchases to no more than one per person in a 30-day period.

“My goal in signing these bills is to enhance public safety by tightening our existing laws in a responsible and focused manner, while protecting the rights of law-abiding gun owners,” Mr. Brown, who himself owns guns, said in his signing message.

The enactment of the legislation leaves little doubt to the standing of California, which in 1989 became the first state to ban assault weapons, as a leader in gun control at a moment when Congress has rebuffed such efforts and numerous Republican-led states are moving in the other direction. States like Texas, in the name of promoting safety, have in recent years expanded the locations where people can carry concealed weapons, including bars and college campuses.

Nothing that the governor signed yesterday would have prevented or reduced casualties in either the San Bernadino or Orlando terrorist attacks. France and Belgium have similar and more restrictive laws, but they don’t stop terrorist attacks there.

It’s strange that Brown would sign legislation that puts restrictions on gun owners, but doesn’t sign laws that would make victims of thieves report the crime.

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2banana

Democrats.

Import millions of illegals and muslims.

After they kill – restrict the constitutional rights of Americans.

desert

“Sparkle pony Brown”…..good name for that fruitcake prissy assed moron!! Shows how freaking STUPID voters are, especially californicating voters,,,that shythead has been in office how many terms and his daddy was a bozo of the obama ilk and they still voted these vermin in!!

11B-Mailclerk

Progressives:

Turn millions of criminals into Citizens.

Turn millions of Citizens into criminals.

A Proud Infidel®™

Let’s top it off with that it’s been reported that at least one of the guns used in the Paris Attacks has been traced to “Fast & Furious”. What damned good are more new Gun Laws when the current one aren’t enforced? Damned if I’ll ever again go to California.

Sparks

As always, criminals in California are sitting around reading about these new laws and saying, “Awe shucks” as they kick rocks wondering how they will still get guns. /sarc/

A Proud Infidel®™

And we ALWAYS see criminals and terrorists lining up in droves to turn in THEIR guns & ammo the minute a new law gets passed, don’t we?

Pinto Nag

Only when it’s a ‘buy back’ program. They turn in all the old worn out weapons for cash so they can afford new ones!

Mark Brown

Dont forget they have to turn in their hi-cap mags as well.

2/17 Air Cav

A moderate Democrat is one who smokes dope daily but does psychedelics only on occasion.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Jerry “moonbeam” Brown… like the Ghettofabulous One, everything he touches turns to shit (Google “high speed rail” to see what I mean).

USMCMSgt(Ret)

There are probably provisions in the new laws that exclude politicians from being subject to them.

Ncat

They’ll just get themselves deputized or some such. There’s always a workaround.

r hill

the calif state senate exempted themselves from the gun laws.

OAE CPO USN Ret

My happiest memory of California was seeing it recede in my rear view mirror.

MSG Eric

I have friends that still live there and for the life of me, I can’t figure out why they still want to.

Twist

I went to San Diego a couple of months back on TDY. Everyone in my class that was stationed there could not wait to PCS and get out of California.

IDC SARC

The Pendleton area was an awesome place for PT. You could do just about anything all year around. Don’t care to ever go back to live or work though.

The politics and the moonbats could be more or less avoided most of the time.

AW1Ed

The mag turn-in will have about the same compliance rate as New York’s and Connecticut’s draconian gun laws. In my corner of the PRofMD, the local Sherriff has flat refused to enforce Annapolis’ idiotic dictates.
So fuck you Governor Moonbeam, and the sparkle pony you rode in on.

A Proud Infidel®™

It’s been said that there’s only been about a 3-5% compliance rate with said laws in any of those States and I wouldn’t be surprised if that turned out to be an inflated statistic.

AW1Ed

API,
I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of an un-regulated AR-15 in La Casa de AW1.

Right next to my Mini-14.

A Proud Infidel®™

I’ve always been a big fan of “The Three S’s” which rumor has it MIGHT be practiced in many a rural area, Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up.

r hill

moonbeam knows mag turn in will be low, and doesn’t care. this just gives them one more law to charge you with of you’re caught.

The Other Whitey

Moonbeam Brown has never been moderate a day in his life. I’m one of many Californians who would gladly wait in line overnight just to piss in that guy’s morning coffee.

My, My, My

I suspect this will make criminals out of law abiding people; not all will turn them in because of their rights. Enjoy the Ammo registry list that will happen.

Also, I suspect there will an assload of mags on Craigslist, ebay, amazon, etc coming from California to avoid the gumment confiscation.

The Other Whitey

Whose says anybody has them? If Moonbeam thinks CHP can go door-to-door, he’s even more of an idiot than we thought, which is saying something.

The Other Whitey

That should say “who says.” Fucking iPhone.

My, My, My

Agreed, I would be frankly shocked (Shocked I tell you) if there was a single one of those destructive mags in California (sans the criminals).

With regard to Moonbeam’s idiocy, I suppose he/they are more following the track of “Know yourself and seek self improvement”, as they/he continue to Exceed Expectations. Guess they need a raise now.

Perry Gaskill

Something that might be pointed out is that Jerry Brown, as liberal as he might be, didn’t sponsor the bills that were signed. That was done in the legislature, and the media does a very poor job of holding any of them to account.

The NYT story barely mentions, for example, that the ammunition background check bill was introduced by Senate President Kevin de Leon who represents parts of Los Angeles, including the predominantly hispanic East LA, and home to an estimated one million illegal immigrants. De Leon’s other efforts have included a recent approval for drivers licenses for illegal immigrants, and being instrumental in getting Proposition 187 overturned. For those not familiar with it, Prop 187 was a state ballot initiative approved by more than 60 percent of voters which would have denied free health care and education to illegals.

De Leon is a nasty piece of work, and amounts to little more than a comandante for an invasion by other than military means. It’s not a mystery why he wants gun control.

MSG Eric

As I recall, the “State” representatives and senators have raised their own pay so much, they make almost as much as members of the US Congress?

I escaped Cali fair and square about 4 years ago so I haven’t kept up, but I recall it was ridiculous how much they make, how much in bennies they get, etc etc.

And naturally, laws like these will have special exemptions for their campaign donors, business associates, political allies, and so on. Its just the common-folk who will have to deal with these kinds of laws.

USMCMSgt(Ret)

Kevin DeLeon…

He’s that stupid fuckwit who can be seen on videoclips talking about “ghost guns” that fire 30 rounds a half a second from a magazine clip (or some such nonsense).

MSG Eric

Here you go:

Skippy

and this would be the reason at least half of it why I don’t live in the people’s republic of California..

Eric the OC Tanker

How does this steaming pile make anybody safer?

*When seconds count, the Police are only minuets away.(if you are very lucky)*

IDC SARC

That’s good in my neck of the woods…my story will be the only story. Isolation has its advantages.

AW1Ed

Same here. And my story would be, “I was in fear of my life and defended myself and my family. I’ll be happy to discuss this further with legal council present.”

And that would most likely be the end of it.

SIU2

during the rodney king riots, the PD told people they were not coming. Koreans got on the roof tops of their businesses with semi automatic rifles. it’s the only reason korea town didnt go up in smoke. i was sure glad i could run in to a gun store and get some slugs for the 12GA. guess i need to dust off that dillon reloading contraption and start making my own..

Granny Grunch

You remember your stupid laws,moonbean. when the next group of Soldiers of the Army of allah show up with real automatic rifles and real explosives. Californis…ha…it must be all thaT POT…….

MSG Eric

Problem is, the terror cells aren’t going after dumbass politicians like Jerry because their “do something!” policies make a terror cell’s job easier.

“Ahmed, look, the Governor of California! We could blow him up right now! He’s unguarded!” “No no no mohammed, we need him to keep being a supportive infidel and take other infidels guns away so we can kill them easier.” “Well, that’s why you’re in charge Ahmed, and why you get to have your time with the goat first!”

Hondo

I wonder what the Arabic equivalent of the term “useful idiot” would be?

11B-mailclerk

Depending on degree, they would be either

Dhimmi, those who pay the protection tax and submit to muslim authority and routine humiliation,

Or

“Held in the right hand”, AKA slave, a somewhat more intense submission to muslim rule and humiliation.

“Corpse” is the term for those who refuse dhimmi or slave.

11B-mailclerk

In the case of Brown, Dhimmi seems correct. He appears to be offering his efforts to placate them, not obey.

Quisling is a prior term used by civilized people to describe creatures lik Brown.

A Proud Infidel®™

IMHO the term “lackey” suits Moonbat Brown much better, he’s that much of a slave to his side’s political agenda like nearly all liberals.

CDR_D

These fools don’t seem to realize that when they pass laws that few will comply with, they undermine their legitimacy to govern.

The so-called “assault” weapons ban, and its various iterations, has been around for about 25 years, and compliance has been no better than in those eastern states. As a matter of fact, in 1997, several years after the original ban, the battle of North Hollywood took place, with the bad guys using full autos.

Non-compliance should be expected. Next step is encouraging jurors to refuse to convict as well as LEOs to refuse to enforce.

The ammo registration doesn’t take effect until 2019, so I imagine there will be a huge stockpile amassed in the next couple of years.

Red Ghost

I bought ammo yesterday as an F You to the ass-holes who drafted and signed these laws. None of them make my family safer. All it does is make it harder and more expensive to protect them.

A Proud Infidel®™

I hear you, Red Ghost! Instead of buying fireworks this year I purchased ammunition instead. So far I’ve stocked up on some R.I.P. rounds in .45ACP and added to my stash of .22 LR, next will be some more rifle and shotgun rounds along with some R.I.P. rounds in .380ACP for the gat I bought Mrs. Infidel®™ for her birthday a couple of years ago, those will put a nasty hole in any goblin dumb enough to mess with her when I’m notaround

Red Ghost

Sounds good API. It was .40 ShW & 12 Gauge for me.

Red Ghost

S&W.

Granny Grunch

The stoner idiots take from those who DON’T do all the shooting/killing and DON’T TAKE from those who do….sheer idiocy…..this is going to bit em in the butt.

Roh-Dog

People of California,
Invest in plastic bags, desiccant and a good shovel. After you’ve cleaned your hands, pray. This prisoner of Connecticut, the “Constitution State”, feels your pain.

Respectfully,
Roh-Dog

NR Pax

And this is the reason that my brother is selling his house and just purchased a new one in Florida.

A Proud Infidel®™

I’m more than ready to bet a case of good Bourbon and three boxes of choice cigars that all that shit will do NOTHING to prevent future crime. Look at the barge loads of money Maryland wasted on their shell casing registry which never helped solve even one single crime. I read on another link that ammo sales in CA will not take place unless the purchaser gets a permit from the CS DOJ and I’m sure they’ll be in no hurry to issue any even after taking people’s money.

MSG Eric

Don’t confuse the issue with facts PI.

Inbred Redneck

Aw, API, I’m sure you must be mistaken. A license to buy ammo? Why, next you’ll be sayin’ that it’s no different than requirin’ ID to vote. Oh, never mind, ’cause I know that one instance is “for the children” and the other is just racism.

11B-Mailclerk

Hitler did not sieze power, he was voted into office, then voted into absolute power.

Ncat

Just to get this straight. The Supreme Court strikes down a Texas law requiring abortion clinics to be as hygienic as say, your dentist’s office. Because that would be overly restrictive of a woman’s “constitutional” right to an abortion. But this stuff? You know the stuff that actually violates a constitutional amendment? Screw it.

Flagwaver

Any firearm that has a detachable magazine is considered an assault weapon in California. I wonder how long it will be until the criminals turn in their guns so they don’t violate the new law?

MSG Eric

That sounds like pretty much every pistol made, except revolvers maybe?

Granny Grunch

Ive got an S&W model 10….all I have to do is pull the trigger six times and I’ve fired six rounds……..semi auto??

Hack Stone

Was State Senator Leland Yee standing beside the Governor when he signed the papers?

AW1Ed

Former CA State Senator Leland Yee is currently unavailable for comment. Seems he has a new mailing address at Club Fed, Fort Worth, TX. He’ll be back in 2021 or so.

Or not.

FatCircles0311

The Feds needs to roll in all blacked out SUV’s with tactical troops hanging on the side to raid these violators of US civil rights and liberate the people of California. It’s gotten that bad over there.

MSG Eric

The Feds are too focused on giving ISIS hugs and job applications these days.

11B-Mailclerk

“Compliance” is not the goal. Fear is the goal.

They want you constantly afraid of “the coming raid”, and they want the non-gun people afraid of -you-. Examples will be made, and mark my words, they are -counting- on someone to resist, violently with firearms, so they can -really- crack down.

Onward to the Radiant Future!

How long before most of California resembles Venezuela and/or Detroit?

Deserttrek

much of california already does mimic venezuela and detroit … try oakland and fresno

Silentium Est Aureum

And Bakersfield, National City, Wilmington, Huntington Park, Riverside, Santa Ana, and, and, and….

CDR_D

I’m sure they would love to reprise WACO, but I don’t see them getting away with characterizing a sizeable proportion of the population as religious fanatics and baby rapers.

They had quite a bit of negative reaction to WACO. Multiply that exponentially, and I’m not sure they would have the stomach for it.

Not sure all LEOs would lick the politicians’ boots, either.

11B-mailclerk

None of the culprits paid any real price. Promotions in most cases, a few “transfers” to nicer assignments.

No penalties at all.

The lesson they learned, was to increase the general demonization, versus specific, and to turn up the heat more slowly.

People are agreeing with them in surveys, and politically in some places. On the other hand, people are buying guns at a record pace, including “scary” ones. This is feeding their sense of righteousness, while fear drives them to desperation.

Train wreck inbound.

Only the slacker mentality of the current administration has prevented another show of force. Just imagine if a Clinton gets back into the White House.

CDR_D

If this link has been posted before, I apologize.

But it is worth the read:

https://reason.com/archives/2016/06/21/what-will-gun-controllers-do-when-americ

Silentium Est Aureum

So basically, all the “agricultural checkpoints” at the AZ/NV borders to CA will be more like, “Do you have any fruits, vegetables, or hollow point ammo in the vehicle?”

MSG Eric

And when you say, “I only have illegals who caught a ride with me from the Mexican border.” Their response will be “okay, have fun!”

Pinto Nag

I keep telling myself that there IS no conspiracy, that our politicians aren’t evil and out to grab power, that the ones who are enacting draconian gun laws are, though seriously misguided, attempting to help prevent tragedy.

And then I remember the saying about coincidence…

And just about the time I stuff that goddam genii back into the bottle, something happens, and I get to go through the whole cycle again. It would almost be a relief to wake up to martial law — at least then, we could all stop pretending. I get so tired of the plastic, oh-so-sincere, smarmy, totally fake BULLSHIT that keeps coming out of their mouths.

/rant off

MSG Eric

I don’t think there’s necessarily a conspiracy. I think its just that they are so far removed from reality and have such little concept of how us peasants live, they make rules based on their view of utopia.

That and many of them are really really stupid.

madconductor

Bingo.

IDC SARC

Utopia cannot be created. Utopia will exist when humans as a species are fit to occupy it. IMHO

11B-mailclerk

The adage is “never attribute to malice what simple incompetance will explain”.

How about “willful ignorance”? Is that the “and” case, versus “or”, in the adage?

B Woodman

I can point you in the direction of three other states that have passed unConstitutionally restrictive gun laws, and the compliance rate has been very low, somewhat on the order of less than 20%.
The three states? CT, CO, NY. Their motto? WWNC– We Will Not Comply.

11B-mailclerk

What will happen when they make an example outof a few? Ruined families, daddy and mom in the slam, kids prosecuted as accessories unless parents roll over and inform/perform.

Not necesarily a fired church full of toddlers, just a bunch of long-term prison trips.

Just a nudge, really. “C’mon, silly. Compliance is -easy-. Resistance is futile, and you dont want your kids in slam, do you?”

No clear line, no “causus belli”. Just 1/4 turns of the screw by the faceless ones.

Of course, if they panic and over react…..

Ex-PH2

As that linked article someone else posted above says, Prohibition did not work. In fact, if you recall your history, it gave rise to organized crime and the Mob, among other things.

The reality that gun control has no effect on reducing crime, but in fact increases it drastically can easily be verified by the statistics coming out of Chicago’s increase in gun violence and violence in general.

The nonsense spouted by politicians, who go on gossip instead of facts, is what drives this ridiculous idea that making guns illegal will drop the crime rate. It’s quite plain that this is completely not true. What I find the most obnoxious about it all is the hysterical reactions by the ignorant who seem to think that guns are going to chase them down the street, spitting bullets at them. Or they go to a gun shop to prove just how easy it is to get one, which does nothing but prove how stupid they are. And you cannot convince them that if you own one, you are not going to use it on them. Their paranoia gives them an adrenaline rush that would make a cheetah explode.

Personally, I think that firearms training should be a requirement if you want to vote. (That’s a snarc.) I don’t like spiders, but I did enough research on them to know that the majority of them are harmless to humans, only a few species are truly deadly to everything, and they are are beneficial to every environment. That does not mean I want them in my house.

My point is that exposure to something and correct training in how to use it will eliminate this idiotic fear of guns.

I find it mindboggling that Hollywood the Industry is centered in a state that makes gun ownership so difficult, and yet the industry consistently makes the most violent movies on the planet, many of them using guns of all kinds. The disconnect from reality there is astonishing.

My comment on Sparkle Pony Brown? MOOOOO! What an asshole.

Silentium Est Aureum

Personally, I’d love to build a couple of Cabela’s on I-15, I-40, I-10, and I-80, just across the NV and Arizona state lines.

Matter of fact, I think there’s one (or a Bass Pro Shops) off Blue Diamond Road just before you get to Vegas. Huge place.

AW1Ed
Ex-PH2

And how many unfortunate boating accidents will occur at some point in the near future?

Hmmmm….

lily

Brown is a disgrace. I hope he moves back to N. Korea. Support Operation Gonzalez!

11B-Mailclerk

Weaponsman.com has an article on the patriotic genius that sells the now-banned “bullet button” kits.

That magnificent example of American defiance anticipated the next-level stupidity in California, and patented BB2.0, which beats the new rule.

Magnificent!