Joe Anan; BS story in The Guardian

| May 28, 2016

Joe Anan

There is this guy who calls himself Joe Anan. Clearly, looking at the name tag in the picture above, that wasn’t his real name. I’ve seen his BS floating around social media for several months in several of the groups that I monitor – one is the group of the Infantry Battalion that I served with in Desert Storm – 1st Battalion 41st Infantry of the 2nd Armored Division (Forward). This fellow (whatever his name is) claims that we left him out in the desert to fend for himself for three months after Desert Storm. He took his fantasy to The Guardian that was more than happy to print his BS. His claim is that he was assigned to our Support Battalion. After Desert Storm, we ran a screen between the Iraqi Army and the fleeing Shi’ites. Some of our companies built refugee camps for the Shi’ites. ANyway, here are snippets of “Joe’s” story;

Then word reached us that a soldier in the Rafha refugee camp run by the US army, in northern Saudi Arabia, needed help: he’d been operating a fork lift for weeks and was desperate for a break. It was only for three days, so I offered to cover.

We flew there in a helicopter and, as I climbed out, the guy I was replacing ran past me and jumped in, saying, “See you, buddy!” Three days later, there was no sign of him. I couldn’t check where he was with my superiors, because I had no walkie-talkie or mobile. Everything in the military is on a need-to-know basis, so I didn’t question it – I was 22 at the time.

Who calls them “walkie-talkies”? Anyway, he claims that he had a few months of MREs, a forklift and a tanker full of fuel. Initially, he was a few hundred yards from a two thousand man unit (yeah, that’s about the size of an infantry battalion) led by a single lieutenant. One morning “Joe” woke up and they were all gone – he hadn’t heard two thousand people leaving in the middle of the night.

So, Joe, where did the refugees go? That was the reason that we were in Rafha – to house Iraqi refugees. By the way, Joe, Rafha is in Saudi Arabia, not Kuwait, no wonder you were lost.

Anyway, he claims that he had enough fuel that for three months he went out driving his forklift looking for American units. Until one fateful day;

One morning, I was out driving and thought I saw a sandstorm coming, but knew that it was far too early. I swerved to the left of it and drove as fast as I could.

Then I realised [sic] it was a convoy of trucks with two tanks. One fired a warning shot at me, but I kept going. As they got closer, a man shouted, “Man, where the hell did you come from?” I said, “I’ll tell you, just get me out of here first!”

Tanks just drive around the desert firing warning shots at anything that moves, I guess. I didn’t know that tanks had “warning shot” rounds. And what’s that BS about being “too early” for a sandstorm? I didn’t know they only happened at certain times of day.

It turned out I’d lost track of time: they told me it was May; I’d been alone for three months.

Eventually, I rejoined my unit in northern Germany. When I stepped through the door, one of the guys fell to the floor in amazement – he thought he’d seen a ghost. Most of them thought I had died.

I was still in Saudi Arabia in May, too – I’d stayed behind to ship our Bradleys back to Germany when our humanitarian mission had ended, but I’d never heard anything about Joe Lost Boy being found.

No one has taken responsibility for abandoning me, and there was no investigation. So much for the army adage, “We never leave a soldier behind.” I originally joined the army because I had been abused as a child, and I wanted to prove to myself no one could hurt me again, and that I could protect people. I now know no one can break me, but I will never get over feeling utterly abandoned.

On his Facebook page, he claims that he’s finding proof that his Lieutenant left him behind on purpose as “an act of revenge” for something. Sounds plausible – the Army doesn’t have layers of records to track personnel. They can just drive off and leave them.

Joe revenge

Even if they did want to leave him to die, some clerk would have gotten antsy about a forklift and a tanker truck that was with him, wouldn’t they? That’s accountable property that someone would have to pay for.

Of course, now he’s saying that he was only missing for three weeks, not three months, you know because our group is calling BS on him in contradiction to what he told The Guardian. I saw a lot of stupid BS go on in 1/41, the 498th Support Battalion and 2d AD, but I would never accuse them of leaving a private in the desert to fend for himself. I have no proof that it didn’t happen, but he doesn’t any proof that it did happen either.

Joe BS

So, now he’s claiming that he went back to Garlstedt with 1/41 Infantry rear detachment that shipped their Bradley fighting vehicles back to Germany after the war. i was the NCOIC of that detail and he wasn’t attached to us. After that lie was exposed, he said he was attached to a Marine Corps unit guarding their swimming pool. The Marines wouldn’t let the Army use their swimming pool because we wouldn’t give them a detail to clean up after them – and we weren’t there to swim.

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IDC SARC

Jeebus…now he’s bragging about how he was awarded the Humanitarian Service Medal….like it was just for him.

ex-OS2

Yeah, someone called him out on that over on the FB page. He said that he wasn’t sure if the entire unit received the Humanitarian Service Medal but for sure he did.

What a dick-bag.

swormy

He pulled down some of the posts on his FB page. The scrubbing has begun.

reddevil

I meant to add that the story of his return to Germany is simply ludicrous. They thought he was dead? How did they carry him on the unit roster all of that time? Was he listed as DUSTWUN or KIA? Does he really think that his company chain of command kept his absence a secret for 4-6 months? Can you imagine the conversation at Battalion when they redeployed?

BN CDR: ‘Hey, B Co, as soon as you guys are up on sensitive items we can let everyone go on block leave.’

B Co: ‘Sir, we have 100% accountability of weapons and pro masks except for one set’

BN XO: ‘What’s the issue?”

B Co XO: ‘Sir, no big deal, it’s PFC Seller’s stuff. He’s missing or KIA or something, so we can account for his sensitive items. We just don’t know where he is’

BN CDR. ‘Man, that’s a relief. Losing a Soldier is nowhere near as bad as losing accountability of a sensitive item. OK, see you guys in a couple weeks. Don’t forget to give a safety brief. We wouldn’t want a DUI or domestic violence incident to ruin block leave for everyone’

CSM: ‘1SGs, remind your Soldiers that even though they are on leave they have to wear reflective belts if they run PT. Also, I don’t wanna see anyone with unauthorized eye pro, even in civvies.”

Hondo

OK, standing offer: if anyone can come up with full name under which this dipstick served (FIRST/MIDDLE/LAST) plus DOB and POB, I’ll be happy to file the FOIA.

We already know the claimed service and approximate dates; first name is likely “Joseph” (need confirmation) and last name at time of service appears to have been “Sellers” (also need confirmation). Don’t have middle name, DOB, or POB.

SSN would help, but likely isn’t strictly necessary as long as the rest of the info above is correct. As always please do NOT do anything unlawful or unethical to obtain the SSN.

ex-OS2

The Facebook Impressum for Joe Anan-Veteran indicates the owner as Joseph Roy Anan. I think his son has the same name, Jr. His birthdate is listed there as well.

ex-OS2

I would guess the name in which he served under would be Joseph Roy Sellers.

Toasty Coastie

Hondo~
It appears his full name is Joseph Roy Sellers-Anan
Birthday is November 30

Not sure of year though…still looking

ex-OS2

1968

Toasty Coastie

November 1969

Toasty Coastie

Oops sorry…. November 30 1968

Hondo

Thanks. Can try a FOIA with that, but chances of getting a meaningful response are slim without place of birth (POB) also.

ex-OS2

Hondo, perhaps Fort Washington, MD.

Atkron

So he’s one of those gash boys that took his wife’s name after a hymen…I mean Hyphen.

His dad must be so proud.

Sparks

Left this jackwagon behind on purpose? Good job LT and thank you Sir! I see an ARCOM in your future for being forward thinking about an ass hat.

clamsgotlegs

divorced a woman with the last name of Anan.

Usafvet509

I pointedly questioned him on hiS FB page, and got my posts deleted, and he blocked me from commenting further… nothing to hide there, I guess

ex-OS2

Yeah, the cocksucker is doing damage control. Playing the victim now, right out of the poser manual.

RM3(SS)

Just a lonely Joe, rolling around in the desert.

IDC SARC

Armageddon!

Flagwaver

I asked him a few questions and got some answers that raised even more questions in my mind. I asked him another set of follow-ups, and he stuck to his story and it changed and got a little more convoluted. 1) How did you keep both the forklift and fueler serviced and operational when those vehicles require a weekly -20 level maintenance cleaning for proper operation in that environment? I was in Engineers Platton, I was crossed trained in various factors of mechanical and hydraulic and generator, water pumps etc . maintenance. My primary MOS at the time was 63J . However, I could not do any maintenance on the forklift as I had no tools other than changing the left front wheel once. The tanker just sat there. He cross-trained in various mechanical and hydrolic repair, but I have a feeling his MOS list will show only 63J. In order to do some of those jobs, you need a butt-load of training. That is, unless he’s talking about PMCS (or -10 level maintenance). However, he could do no maintenance in the middle of the sandbox to prevent the engine from gumming up with sand. Also, tankers don’t just “sit there.” Every tanker I’ve ever worked around needs the engine running for the pumps to work. It’s not like a gas station pump. ———- 2) Who had those vehicles signed out? Each vehicle required at least an E-4 to sign out, and one person can only sign out one vehicle. So, if the person you were replacing was the signed operator of the forklift, where was the signed operator of the fueler? I only ask because there is no record of a fueler operator being brought up on a UCMJ-level statement of charges for abandonment of their vehicle. I would have no clue who was responsible for the tanker nor the forklift. I was just supposed to be there 3 days. As far as UCMJ actions, I only know that CPT Conn was in a world of trouble about missing equipment when I returned to Garlstedt. He has no idea… Read more »

Ex-PH2

I’ll bet he broke a nail or two changing that left wheel!

This fish story gets dumber and dumber by the sentence.

swormy

The funny thing on his FB he stated he got a flat while driving to another camp, that was why he needed the spare. So he could find another camp while troops were there but the minute everyone bugged out he got amnesia?

I also like how he keeps switching his story when called on parts of it. First it was three months, now three weeks. He drove as far as he could each day searching for people, now he stayed where he was.

Blames it ALL on the person interviewing him, he was misquoted. I guess his ass started feeling the heat and decided to delete one of the posts along with the comments. Screw this guy.

Flagwaver

I asked him a few questions and got some answers that raised even more questions in my mind. I asked him another set of follow-ups, and he stuck to his story and it changed and got a little more convoluted. 1) What kind of equipment or supplies were you supposed to be moving near the refugee camp that you didn’t have any junior NCO supervision and/or contact? I was moving pallets of water and MREs and these Raviolis and Packaged bread. I was a Specialist and did not need supervision to move the supplies. I was told to bring a palette of each each day. So, as a Specialist, he was given all day to do absolutely nothing but move four pallets? I’m sorry, but that’s not how shit is done. As an E-4, he would have been given at least a single guard duty rather than sitting on his ass and doing nothing more than jerking it all day long without any kind of supervision. Because E-4’s are such hard workers, I guess. ———- 2) You state that you were relieving someone on a forklift, but what were you doing on that forklift and why were you so far removed from the rest of the troops to the point that they could mob that amount without you hearing them? I’ve been part of moving a BN-level unit and it is far from silent. There are horns, both vehicle and air horns, whistles, yelling, shouting, and a crap-ton of vehicle engines. So, how far removed from the main element were you and why? I cannt tell you why the supplies and forklift where so far removed from the front of the camp. It was that way when I got there, I did not question it. They had supplies at the front of the camp but handed it out to the refugees at the front of the camp. I guess having the supplies in the rear as well was to be sure everyone received something without having so many people rush the front. But each day the supplies I drove up… Read more »

Flagwaver

He probably also had better things to do than take over a job that a Supply Sergeant should have handled. I know, I was the supply daddy for a BSB HHC. I think the highest person who dealt with this kind of crap was the SPLAT (usually a 1LT with the rare CPT).

Hack Stone

I would imagine that the lug nuts on a combat forklift are similar, but much larger than, lug nuts on a Hummer. Do you just dig into the trunk of your 1974 Chevy Impala and use that lug wrench? Because the Lone Ranger here makes no mention of an impact wrench.

And as stated above, why would the Army leave critical supplies away from the main area with no personnel to guard it, other than one lone E-3 who received no briefings, no relief for chow or hygiene, and no means of communication?

As to the Army not writing off a sleeping bag, when Hack Stone left Saudi Arabia during Desert Shield to go back for radio tech school, the needledick supply reservist would not sign him out of his parent command because the Equipment Custody Receipt he received when he turned in his 782 gear did not account for his five tent stakes and shelter half guideline. Yeah, no shit.

A Proud Infidel®™

Not just the nuts Hack Stone, but the weight of the tire and rim would be at least a few hundred pounds, i remember a Mechanic telling me that a HEMMTT tire with rim is around 400 pounds.

Ex-PH2

Did he have any WD40 to loosen up those lug nuts, by the way? I’d bet they were so big, each one required a half-can of it, just to loosen it.

Sorry, I simply cannot do this without snorting in laughter so loudly, my cat thinks I’m having a frenzy attack.

Hack Stone

Lefty loosey, righty righty. Or is it the other way around since he was on the other side of the hemisphere?

Hondo

Well, that’s correct unless you’re this poor guy (NSFW).

(smile)

Just An Old Dog

That was the usual way things ran, however did run into something totally opposite.
Just before we deployed in May 1991 to the Persian Gulf I got a Devil Dog who had went straight from MOS School to Saudi Arabia as part of a Combat Replacement Company.
He managed to come back with every single piece of his 782 Gear. He was never checked out if supply, just given orders and put on the plane back.
He wasnt he only one. There were at least three other Marines who came to the Battalion the same thing happened to.

Ex-PH2

‘I didn´t even know that I was in Saudi.’

That one. That right there. That is comedy gold. It is Abbot & Costello in another ‘Road to Nowhere’ movie, and they don’t even have Dorothy L’Amour to pretty up the scenery, because CAMELS!!

What country on Planet Hell did this maroon ‘toon think he was in? Wait, I have it: he was in Far-Far-Away!

Someone should tell him to stop now, because he will need a 100 yards of chow line to get out of that hole he’s dug for himself.

Hack Stone

I’ve said it before, and I will say it again.

John Rowe

Hi,

I’m a British Guardian reader. I have no military experience but I thought the story was pretty weird. I doubt if the US army would lose someone like that.

I hope you’ve told the Guardian.

Marine_7002

Mr. Rowe: you’re very perceptive, thank you. 🙂

I think at least one of our folks here has told the Guardian that this clown is a liar and a fraud, but please feel free to say the same to them. You might have more credibility than us colonials.

Thanks again, stop by any time!

Green Thumb

They probably left his sorry ass on purpose.

Turd.

kent

I just sent Hoe Anan this message on facebook

“I’m glad you survive getting left by your battle buddies at the strip club. Thankfully you gave your wallet to your friend. I don’t know what you would have done after the stripper gave you first drink. I’m sure it would have been bad for your bank account. I think it was the Lt. who planned to ditch you at the club that night. I didn’t like that club Desert Rhino either”.

Jarhead

Methinks this dude is suffering from a case of the vapors. Only Southerners will know what this means. Now for the large unit pulling stake in the middle of night and being gone when he woke up, there can be ONLY one answer. He had wandered into the famous Yakistan 5th Battalion Mime Corps. Their normal M. O. is to remove the glass panels they use for interpretation quietly and dig down like sand moles heading under the Mexican/Unites States border. Poof!!!!! They’re gone before breakfast!

MrBill

Onanism: coitus interruptus.

Ananism: being interrupted while talking out of one’s ass.

Hondo

Learn something new every day. I always thought “onanism” was defined as logfloggus maximus. (smile)

MrBill

That’s actually the most common definition now. But, the term came from the story of Onan in the Bible. Onan was in an arranged marriage with his older brother’s widow. However, rather than impregnating the widow (thus giving his brother an heir under Jewish law), Onan pulled out and “spilled his seed on the ground.” This proved to be a bad decision on Onan’s part as God slew him for his disobedience.

MrBill

Maybe an alternate definition of “ananism” would be telling a BS jerkoff story. I like the interruptus part, though, as that’s pretty much what happened to our man here.

Dallas

I’ll have to ask my cohorts if they knew this guy. I was a scout (19D) in HHC, 1-41, 2AD (FWD) 1988 – 1990 and PCS’d to 24th ID (MECH) in JAN 1990.
Sandstorms happened in Saudi and Iraq whenever.
At the beginning of the ground offensive, we went into Iraq on the west side of the Neutral Zone during a sand storm. It was perfect since we had thermals in our M3 Bradley to guide the drivers.
We didn’t have any combat off-road forklifts with us though. Some M1’s with mine rollers and plows but no fork lifts.
Would have been pretty awesome to skewer some of the Republican Guard troops though.

IDC SARC
spd0302

Oh man, what a fucking shit show at that link. That has to be a joke

A Proud Infidel®™

WHA-TA-FUckizzat, “Mega-Douchebags ‘R’ Us”?

Tony180a

Holy Shit! He’s the “IPRC”
international public relations correspondent!

Leaves a shitty aftertaste in your mouth just saying it!!

spd0302

Hey IDC, the chick pictured at that joke of a link….
Would you?

IDC SARC

Nelia? Hellz yeah.

spd0302

All is right with the world. Semper Fi IDC

Hack Stone

Reminds me of a website for a proud woman owned business based in Bethesda MD that sells overpriced outdated software to the federal government. How many companies they screwed out of money. Maybe they have a tie in with The Stunning Agency.

Tony180a

Jeez, lol. This poor bastard had no idea what his bullshit story would lead to.

IDC SARC

He seems to have deleted one FB profile or gone invisible.

I linked the TAH page to all his groups I could find and many of his pictures.

IDC SARC

…and his son’s FB page. lol

A Proud Infidel®™

Forsooth, he fucketh himself greatly.

Tony180a

He may go the legal name change route to avoid his new found Google fame.

A Proud Infidel®™

THAT or he’ll seek the legal advice and help of a certain NON-CPO currently listed as “Not Eligible to practice Law” in the State of CA or he’ll try to lay low until he thinks the heat’s off and go back to con gaming.

spd0302

Facebook page is now currently unavailable…
BOOM

PavePusher

Wow. Just when you think you’ve heard every whopper out there….

IDC SARC

those a-holes at the guardian are still eating the story up like free gubbament cheese

Tony180a

Maybe it will be made into a Lifetime Movie “A Soldier and his Forklift to Freedom”.

Ex-PH2

If you put Drew Carey in it, it might be worth watching.

Tony180a

There has to be a part where he pisses off a woman and he gets staked to an ants nest or burned in his bed etc.

IDC SARC

belay my last…the comments are closed down on the guardian

Ex-PH2

Is this stumpsucking clown starting to throw out the begging card yet?

D. B. Cooper

If he’s even remotely smart, he’ll make himself disappear like I did.

IDC SARC

I dunno what’s more irritating, his lies or that half duck face pose he puts on in those pictures.

spd0302

He is trying to channel Derek Zoolander

Green Thumb

Just another unwanted turd as a by-product of unprotected ass-sex…..gone bad.

IDC SARC

His FB page is back up and he pretty much scrubbed all criticism.

https://www.facebook.com/joe.anan.veteran/

Bobo

It sure does look a lot different this morning than it did yesterday.

rb325th

Take a few days off, and man oh man… What a piece of shit. He was a Combat Veteran, good enough for most I know. Not for this idiot obviously. The desire for fame… well you are famous now asshole.