ND:tBF Makes Boom-Boom . . . .
. . . but not with Ms. Kim. (smile)
Apparently the Dork of NorK’s minions detonated another nuclear device yesterday. Yield was apparently smaller than their previous test about 2 years ago, which was estimated at between 1 and 30 kilotons (with approx 7.9 kilotons being the most probable value).
However, Emmentaler-Boi has claimed that this was a thermonuclear device. While it’s possible the NORKs managed to put a bit of tritium and deuterium in a fission warhead this time, the observed yield argues strongly against this being a true (Ulam-Teller) thermonuclear device. The primary (e.g., the fission device used to cause thermonuclear reactions) used in a true thermonuclear device is typically on the order of the magnitude seen here; the fusion reactions typically add greatly to the yield. Even a thermonuclear “fizzle” (a device that falls far short of expected yield) typically has a much larger explosive yield than observed in this case (very likely substantially less than 8 kT).
And if this was a test of a boosted device (a device with introduced deuterium and tritium in order to increase explosive yield), well . . . apparently it sucked. Pretty badly.
Assessment. Fatboy Kim here appears to be lying through his teeth about the “thermonuclear” part.
Anyone surprised?
Category: Military issues, North Korea, Nukes
It’s just a super government cover up to cover NDtBF intestinal weapon of ass destruction.
NO Honolabre ChipNASA, it Gleat Reader’s pran to foor the evir Westeln Capitarists into fawrse sense of supeliolity…
North Korea: Disneyland with the safety protocols disabled.
Well its that time of the year again when you blackmail the word (U.S/Japan) for food and fuel oil.
This also makes me wonder how Iran’s nuke program is coming along.
What I want to know is, why hasn’t one of the world powers hammered this lunatic flat yet? You just know this constipated little dog-turd is going to do something colossally stupid somewhere down the line, and a lot of innocent people are going to die. I actually understand why WE haven’t done anything — nobody in the pilot house, much less at the wheel around here — but what about China or Russia? They have a vested interest in that part of the world, and they aren’t addressing this, either.
If the Boy King of Norkland gets smoked, the world will be without an entertainingly-batshit pissant dictator. Ghadaffi’s gone, after all. Imagine how boring it would get.
/sarc
Ya know what? I could enjoy being bored for awhile.
Probably because cleaning up the mess would take many decades to do. It’d also cost tens of billions of dollars in resources and manpower to rebuild the infrastructure and feed the people. There’s also overcoming decades of brainwashing about the Great Leader being the greatest thing since sliced bread. Take a look at the former East Germany. It’s been united with the West for the past quarter century, yet Berlin still spends many billions of euros per year just to keep the eastern half alive and functional. Seoul wouldn’t want reunification via war, as that means the North becomes its white elephant for the next 100 years.
So no, it’s not a matter of hammering this lunatic flat; that is the easy part. The cleanup is gonna be the hairy part. That goes especially if the Nork Army decides to go guerrilla and fight underground.
As opposed to having him drop a bomb on somebody, THEN hammering him flat, and THEN absorbing the clean-up costs of both NK AND whatever he decided to nuke?
Point taken. The question is, do we have the will to proceed? Please remember, we’re just now winding down from the longest war in American history. Do you really think the American people are up for another war?
Besides, what if China gets involved, the way they got involved back in 1950?
You make interesting points, Pinto Nag. I’d like to continue this discussion, but I have to go to work (I’m on the evening shift). I hope to see more from you when I check back on this thread around 1AM tomorrow morning Eastern time.
My best guess, based on what happened the last time when the turdlette was waving his nukes around, is that IF he actually does set up to launch a strike, either Russia or China or both will preempt him. About the best possible outcome would be for Russia to knock out his missiles and China to simply annex NK and role a whole bunch of troops and materiel in there to settle it — both literally and figuratively. When China moved, we’d be there to keep South Korea from getting the crap scared out of them, and make sure China stopped at the DMZ. If we had a leader who could put together an intelligent thought on foreign affairs occasionally, that action would be agreed upon in advance with his counterparts in China before their movement occurred. Without too much effort, China could recoup their expenditures by using the Taiwan model — if they could learn not to get so possessive of borrowed real estate, that is.
Good idea…but if we’re going to do a military invasion, I’d rather have a free nation do it. Australia is closer to NK than we are, and their military has already proven itself tough enough to do the job. Perhaps have ANZUS work together to send the little fatbody to hell, dissolve his regime, then have the UN fund the rebuilding?
Your thoughts?
I’ll offer mine, unsolicited: you really think that either China or Russia want the economic burden associated with taking over that basket case when it collapses?
Like Vietnam and Germany, Korea has historically considered themselves one nation. South Korea might be willing to do so, for that reason.
I’m guessing China or Russia would say, “Both parts of Korea or no deal.” The northern part only would be more trouble for them than it’s worth.
Semper Idem: I had a couple of reasons for my suggestion that China take over NK. First, size of armed force. China can, if necessary, field an army larger than most country’s populations. This wouldn’t take extraordinary skill; it would take numbers, to do it quickly and efficiently. Second: culture. Books have been written about this, so I assume you know what I mean by that: a closely aligned culture would make fewer mistakes dealing with the populace than an alien culture. Third: the cost would be lower for the invading power, because logistics and support would be far more simple: China is in NK’s backyard, literally. I know it’s not the way things are done now, but I’m not sure a coalition force would be the best response in NK. And I know that we have held both Russia and China at arm’s length since WWII and the Korean War, but I think it’s time to rebuild our relations with both nations. As it is, we have a working economic relationship with China — I don’t see why that couldn’t be extended to a military and political relationship, as well. Both Russia and China have been our allies in the past; if we’d try rubbing two brain cells together, I think they could be again. Not only would they be valuable assets in this situation, I think we should have them involved in a coordinated effort against the world-wide jihad threat.
In 2005-6, the democratic party needed a way to prevent the Republicans from electing another president after GW Bush. So they decided that they would run against the wars in the middle east. They signed up the press and the war for the 2008 election was on. The Dems won. As has been the US pattern for a long time, they won again in 2012 partly because the conservative and moderate wings of the Republican party refuse to play well together and partly because the Dems ran a better campaign – beat fair and square. However, having Obama has a side effect. Nobody is afraid of us any more and everyone is trying to take advantage of the resident in the White House – for sure he won’t fight back so … easy money. Grab all you can before the cops come back. Unfortunately, next year we have a weakened world position, weakened military, we have borrowed additional titanic amounts of money, and we have Obamacare sucking the sides in on our economy. And these fine fellows like Mr. Putin, ISIS, and Nd:tBf are going around and causing trouble. Mr. Obama has made us not intimidating so we cannot just look them in the eye and tell them to stop, we are going to have to actually do something. Because our capabilities are diminished and we are out of practice with doing something, it is going to hurt. Lots of experienced guys left. I know a few who are still working security over there but they are not the institutional training NCO core of the military. I would like to blame this on the Dems, after all this is their playbook. But, in this case, both parties participated with the collusion of the American people so now we have to pay. I am an old fart who reads history with an old fart gloomy attitude. Every US war ends because we win, get beat, or get tired of fighting it. Then we take a peace dividend and try to ignore the rest of the world. The world keeps going and… Read more »
I wonder who Kim Cheese-munch will execute for his not getting the amount of propaganda he wanted from this?
Pumpkin head usually does something like this just prior to so sabre rattling; He either is feeling ignored and not getting enough global media time, or he desperately needs / wants something…..food, fuel?
Taller buildings, perhaps?
Twice his body weight in Emmentaler.
I swear……his head looks like a “Kung Fu Panda” Chia Pet.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WJppLCUu70c/UVVTGT3KvRI/AAAAAAAAAfQ/rCKf7HRst3U/s1600/Kim+Jong-un_Kung-fu+Panda.jpg
Seeing as how he surrounds himself with gorgeous females (family tradition, apparently)–who also happen to be the only gals in Norkland who get to eat more than 25 calories per year–you’d think he’d get more mileage by trading hot Korean chicks for diplomatic concessions. As Sterling Archer tells us, hot Asian chicks make everything better.
(The hot Asian chick I’m married to is giving me the death glare for writing this joke)
Nuclear weapons are important and all, but what I really want to know is how a lunatic ended up being the fat kid’s barber…
But you guys just don’t understand, not even a little bit. Fatty Kim da T’ird has not been the center of any kind of attention for a while. He MUST have attention. Those hot Asian chicks simply are not enough to satisfy his craving for the spotlight. He needs validation, desperately.
So he lied about the yield. So what? What’s a megaton or two in the end? It’s all about where the spotlight hits, and I’m quite sure he saw the fire at the Address Hotel in Dubai on New Year’s Eve, and how much attention it got, and realized it was his turn to GET SOME.
Just consider him to be the source of Coldiron’s mad rabbit-sniffing skills.
Rats wearing leather… that sort of thing.
Joshy Earnest said it didn’t happen.
Here’s your homework, due next Monday. Pop quiz on the subject, no essay questions.
Where in all the Seven Hells did Fatty Kim da T’ird get tritium, never mind deuterium?
Where did he get it? Out of Satan’s hairy burnt-black ass?
Tritium can be produced via multiple means. The first is in a nuclear reactor via irradiation of heavy water (inefficient), lithium-6 (efficient but requires isotope separation of lithium), natural lithium (the Li-7 reaction requires high-energy neutrons), or boron-10 (inefficient). In all cases but the first, the tritium produced can then be chemically separated from the irradiated target.
It can also be produced in-situ in a nuclear device by incorporating lithium deuteride into the construction of the device. However, incorporating a low-Z material that is a net absorber of neutrons is generally not particularly desirable in the core of a nuclear primary. That rather messes with the physics of the chain reaction required for the primary to go “boom”. It’s much more common for LiD to be used in the secondary (thermonuclear) stage.