Congress may authorize war against ISIS

| December 10, 2015

The Hill reports that Congress has finally decided that maybe they’ll authorize the use of force against ISIS, you know, since we’ve already had US casualties in that war. One authorization introduced today is bipartisan and bicameral;

Reps. Scott Rigell (R-Va.) and Peter Welch (D-Vt.) introduced the legislation, a companion bill to a measure in the Senate offered by Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.).

It would expire after three years unless reauthorized, repeal the Iraq War authorization for the use of military force (AUMF) and be the sole authorization for the war against ISIS.

I’m just wondering how people like Bernie Sanders will vote. Remember he voted against the Authorization for the Use of Military Force in Iraq last time when he was in the House. But now he wants to be the president, so….

“However one may define it, we are in a war right now,” said Rigell, who noted that with a new House Speaker, lawmakers may be more amenable to tackling difficult issues in a bipartisan manner.

“We must not fear ISIS nor should we fear the debate about how to defeat ISIS,” he said.

“Congress has been absent,” added Welch. “It’s time that Congress did its job.”

Flake agreed that some colleagues “just don’t want to get on the record here,” but he said they would do their best to bring it to a vote.

60% of Democrats in the House and 42% of Democrats in the Senate voted against the 2002 Authorization for the Use of Military Force in Iraq, I wonder if they’ll be more receptive to a Democrat President and the war he created.

Category: Terror War

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Pinto Nag

I truly wonder who they think is going to fight this war, how, and with what. The military, its training, it’s hardware, its funding, and its benefits have been stripped. What about its morale? The whole world is being threatened, tortured, and killed by an enemy our government refuses to clearly identify and also refuses to denounce, refute, properly retard, or destroy. While all of this has been going on, our government also makes every effort to shovel money into the area of the world the terrorists are from, with no accountability and no responsibility when the terrorists divert it into their cause. So basically, what they are doing with this vote is legalizing the continued slaughter of our military, our economy, and our national future. And for what? What do we get out of this except dead and wounded soldiers, a wrecked economy, and another tangled mess in a country that means nothing but misery for us? At this point, all I can say about this is that I truly hope there is a Hell, and that the Congressmen and women who continue to send our military into harms’ way for no reason get to rot in it.

Blaster

the boogy man is real, but the current administration wants to pull the covers over their head and pretend he’s not, even though they created him. Eventually someone is going to have walk into the room and turn on the light to expose him. Trump, Cruz or Carson will hopefully have their sh!t together and are truly Patriots and not just “more of the same” (one can dream, can’t they?)

Your comment was accurate and I can tell you that the morale of the military went out the window with the benefits.

B Woodman

You left out the both-hands-tied ROEs that our current crop of military have to attempt to both kill the enemy and stay alive themselves.

A Proud Infidel®™

“I wonder if they’ll be more receptive to a Democrat President and the war he created.”

YOU MEAN like how many of the same dumpycraps that howled for the use of force during the “Blowjob Willie” years suddenly became peaceniks during the GW Bush years?

OldSoldier54

I have REALLY mixed feelings about this.

OldSarge57

I’m with you, brother. Can you even begin to imagine the ROE this bunch would impose?

OldSoldier54

The stuff of nightmares.

Ex-PH2

Oh, here we go again.

Blaster

Well, we are in the middle of fielding new uniforms again, so I need another trip to the M.E. In the latest fashion 😉

A Proud Infidel®™

There’s a saying in today’s Army that if you don’t like the current uniform just wait six months until some pampered perfumed powdered four-starrednPrince of the Pentagon changes his mind! 😀

Hondo

Six months might be a bit of an exaggeration, API. The ACU lasted a few years.

But I kinda like its replacement: the “BDU v2”.

The Stranger

I saw a Marine LCPL having dinner with a relative as I was heading out the door and I thought “Damn, that kid looks young.” But then, they look younger every year as I get older. I’m still in and I’m only getting older so thank God there are those young men and women to take the baton from us old farts. Oh, and by the way, Claw, I made it home OK.

FatCircles0311

Female infantry and navy seals first.

Don’t wanna discriminate!

OldManchu

Along with every stolen valor poser.
As well as 50% of the US Congress. They can draw straws, after they declare war, to see who gets to go.

Stacy0311

And the trannies!!!

We haven’t really been at war with ISIL/ISIS/Daesh because no SEAL has wrote a book about it

FatCircles0311

Books are so 20th century. What they do now days is offer subscription services to blogs so posers can go pay money to hang out with team guys and yuck it up about current events from the point of view of operators.

I shit you not.

Ex-PH2

I’d rather see the social justice warriors go in first, to try to change the culture of ISIS/Daesh to something more all-encompassing, addressing the anathema of ‘privilege’ (whatever that is). They can be followed by a large brigade of SV fakers who want the glory but don’t want to do the work to earn it. They are loaded to the hilt with snipers and SpecForce guys, aren’t they?
Oh, and NO desk jockeys. Give ’em all GUNNZZZ.
After that, the real troops can move in and do the clean up.

Fastjack

Us desk jocks aren’t all useless. Who’s gonna keep your comms up if we all get shipped in as the third line? Some random PFC who wouldn’t know the difference between Cat 5 and T1?

Perry Gaskill

Brighter minds might disagree, but it seems to me the strategic end game with ISIS is relatively simple if based on risk analysis. From ISIS’ point of view, they don’t fear us and the potential benefit exceeds the cost of crossing us. What we should actually be after is for Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to pee his pants anytime he hears the sound of our name.

So here comes Congress with a bold plan to kick things up a notch by replacing the existing AUMF with another AUMF. Apparently the word “shall” will be replaced with the word “will” as it applies to the party of the second part. Or something.

Meanwhile, in one of those odd twists of timing, El Chapo Guzman, the on-the-lam jefe of the Sinaloa drug cartel, has reportedly sent a letter to ISIS telling them to stop messing with the cartel’s shipments or they’re going to regret it.

“I pity the next son of a whore that tries to interfere with the business of the Sinaloa Cartel. I will have their heart and tongue torn from them.” according to the letter.

Now, El Chap-o Stick-o may be a miserable excuse for a drug-dealing swine, and the letter may be a hoax, but it makes you wonder: Who knows how to act in a way ISIS can understand?

“You want to f*ck with me? Say hello to my little friend.”

OldSoldier54

That’s … ” … my leetle friend.”

:p

Ex-PH2

Well, I now have a smidge of respect for El Chapo Guzman for his response to ISIS.

And in addition to that, this ISIS-related item was in the news on Reuters this morning. I guess the Saudis are taking ISIS/Daesh/ISIL (whatevah!) seriously, now.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-security-idUSKBN0TX2PG20151215