When the story doesn’t work, make up something
That’s from an article that’s still on Yahoo News from yesterday. I don’t think he ever lied about getting into West Point, did he? I’m also sure that he was never in the military – but that doesn’t stop Getty Images from photoshopping a uniform around his face.
They do, however, put this disclaimer after the photo;
Well, you know, if it’s not a real photo, why is it in a news story that says that he admits he lied, you know, even though he didn’t lie?
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Poor Ben, he has fallen on his sword. I had such high hopes for the man. For a guy that understands the brain he has some odd thoughts in his own.
I guess I can live with a POTUS that thinks the pyramids are filled with grain, but a doctor that denies evolution is one thought too few.
Didn’t he also claimed that the Holocaust could have been stopped if the Jews kept their weapons and fought back?
And he’s never been forgiven for that.
I believe that was a reference to the gun confiscation that occurred in Germany prior to WWII.
Here is a pdf from the Arizona Journal of International and Comparative Law by Stephen P. Halbrook that helps explain Carson’s point of view.
Carson’s words were twisted … as usual.
Well, I suppose things like this would have ended better if they’d only had more guns, right? http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007745
IIRC, the context of his words were about the gun confiscation that occurred in the years leading up to the war.
Remember, there were many Germans who didn’t agree with the whole Nazi Master Race thing, but having been disarmed prior to things getting really ugly, they (with some notable exceptions) just hunkered down to try and ride it out. The Jews had no choice. That had a long history of being singled out for persecution to draw on, so they had to try and make it work with what they could gather together.
I miss Marge Schott, Hitler was good for Germany in the beginning…..he just went a little too far.
Being quoted is the reason I a oh so careful not to make any controversial statements. If I go along with the whole invisible friend thing, do I really have to eat his flesh and drink his blood? Can I substitute a hog god instead? I like bacon a lot. The drinking thing just freaks me out a little.
Ya know, as far as I’m concerned, the rabid creation/evolution debate is much ado about jack shit.
Do I believe we evolved from microbes? No. Do I believe the world is only 4000 years old? No. Do I disbelieve either of those? No. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m a Christian of the Roman Catholic variety (though I was actually raised Protestant), and I firmly believe that God created the universe and everything in it–well, except spiders (I HATE SPIDERS!!). I wasn’t there to see it, though, so I won’t claim to have any idea what method He used, or what His schedule was like.
According to the scientific method, nothing can be conclusively proven or disproven unless it can be observed. Nobody observed God saying, “Let there be light.” And obviously it’s impossible to observe eons of evolution. Pretty much everything that everybody says for or against is really speculation based on very limited evidence. So apart from the Lord being the force behind it all, I don’t believe or disbelieve anything about how the world and everything in it came to be, and I’m fairly open-minded about the various hypotheses, and take them all with a grain of salt. I don’t necessarily think evolution should be taught as fact (it has to be proven first, which is impossible either way), but it shouldn’t be banned from schools either.
And when it’s all said and done, young-earth creation vs evolution means exactly what to us in the Here and Now? Not a Goddamned thing, really. We’re here and the world works the same way. Why bicker over bullshit that affects us in no practical way when we have real problems?
The theory of the Big Bang precisely parallels the Hindu view of Buddha breathing while he sleeps. When Buddha inhales, the Universe ends. When Buddha exhales, the Universes is created.
Hindu view of Buddha? Do you mean the Buddhists’ view of Buddha? Or do you mean the Hindu view of Brahma?
You probably mean the Hindu view of Brahma.
Evolution is a fact. Being Catholic, I am sure you know that even that church has accepted it as one.
The word “theory” gets tossed around by people that do not understand the context in which it is used. A scientific Theory is our best explanation for something. The Theory of Gravity does not make gravity any less of a fact. Germ Theory does not make disease any less real.
The myth that evolution is less than a fact is perpetuated by those who are somehow threatened by its reality. There are hoards of Christians that are just fine with accepting the fact of evolution.
What it means in the here and now is evolution is the foundation of modern Biology. Turning our youth away from its teaching leads to less of them being interested in perusing modern medicine at the research level.
We do have real problems, I agree even bigger more pressing problems to deal with. Electing a leader who can solve them is important. Putting one in the office who can not grapple with the simple truth of a basic scientific fact points to their inability to set aside matters of faith for those of fact.
Shame is I like a lot of his positions on other issues. Although most would never put a known Atheist in the White House because they didnt have an invisible friend, I have voted for many people of faith. As deluded as they might be in my opinion, if they display willingness to govern all aside from their religion, I support them.
I just don’t get it from the strategic point of view. Every time religion hitches its wagon to fighting science that they’re unable to reconcile with their understanding of their faith, they erode that very faith. You don’t understand how the heliocentric world can exist given how you interpret the bible? Then fuck Copernicus, he must be wrong! And when it becomes obvious to all that he was (in general) right, you’ve eroded that faith. Don’t understand how the world can be more than 6,000 years old, given your interpretation of the creation story? Then fuck Hutton and Lyell, they must be wrong! And when it becomes obvious to all that they were (in general) right, you again erode that faith.
And today, we’ve got folks who say I cannot both believe in their God and believe in evolution via natural selection. Well, alright then – you’re the one who set up that false choice, not me…
There you go, throwing natural selection into the mix.
Two thirds of the visible stars have Arabic names. Our number system, Arabic. The number Zero implemented by the Arab world of its time. Al cohol, Al gebra, hydraulics, a round earth, atoms, all have their first discovery in the Arab world.
That was until a guy named Al-Ghazali came along. Seeing science and reason as a threat to religious teachings gathered enough support to take over the government and put an end to anything that contradicted religion.
He managed to push that culture back into the stone age, from which it has yet to recover.
I’m sorry, Dave.
It was not the Arabs who proposed Atomism. It was Leucippus and his pupil Democritus in the 5th century BC.
The ancient Greeks also proposed the possibility of a ’round’ Earth by observation of angle of the shadow of a pillar during the day at the equator (0 degrees latitude) and several miles north and south of that place in Egypt.
The Babylonians were the inventors of astronomy by direct or sidereal observation.
Archaeological evidence of hydraulics in Pakistan shows that houses were supplied with ceramic conduits for water supplies and drainage over 5,000 years ago. In China, the same construction began over 4,000 years ago. The Nile was dammed at Memphis some 6,000 years ago.
None of these things can be attributed to Arabs. Period.
Now please open the pod bay doors and go stand in the corner.
Pssst (the Greeks studied most of it from the Babylonians…..mostly in this little city called Baghdad. And, the zero thing was brought by order from India and implemented. I think those people in Baghdad were Arabs. I could be wrong of course.)
Of course they were not Arab, what was I thinking. All those Arab names were given to all those things by the Greeks.
(standing in corner now mistress)
No, I did not include the fact that the Greeks stole a lot of stuff from the Babylonians, or that the Chinese invented fired clay vessels that trace back some 10,000 years. In fact, the Babylonians may have gotten their math and astronomy from the Chinese.
My bad.
These reply boxes get smaller and smaller and I start squeaking.
But there is a theory floating around in quantum physics that the stars are conscious and the Universe is a conscious entity, per Greg Matloff. It would allow for other dimensions and what happens to the electromagnetism that keeps your sordid body from disintegrating until the battery (your brain) shuts off, then it falls apart.
What does happen to that? The four forces of physics echo the four elemental forces. I can draw pictures, if that will make it easier to understand.
Actually that is not floating around the quantum physics community, it more of a Dinesh D’Souza kind of thing.
He will be back to explaining it all as soon as he resolves a few pesky little legal problems.
Oh, Dave, Dave, Dave!
It’s in this article.
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/centauri-dreams/eepu/~3/OZX1hONfGaM/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email
Go to the paragraph title ‘A Toy Model of Stellar Consciousness’, which summarizes the theory.
Here’s the link to Matloff’s book discussing stellar consciousness.
http://www.curtis-press.com/product/star-light-star-bright-are-stars-conscious/
I’m not at a point where I can discuss epiphenominalism just yet. I can read about it, and try to absorb it and then some night, when the wind is howling around the chimney pots, I will look up and yell ‘EUROPA!!!’
You make me…….
I? Make The Dave nervoso?
!Oh, por favor, senor! !No es possible, jamas!
I like turtles…
I’m actually in agreement with you. Like I said, too many people expend way too much on what’s ultimately a fairly pointless debate. I don’t buy into any particular narrative of how it happened, but if somebody else does, cool. By all means, research and experiment. Learn new shit. Just don’t expect everybody to believe your speculation of how you think it probably happened (and you could very well be right–we will never know for sure). Everybody has faith in something, even secular evolutionists, because it can’t be conclusively proven or disproven. We can only agree (or not) that we think a particular speculation is what probably happened. Unless of course Dave Hardin will pull that flux capacitor out of his garage, then we could settle it once and for all!
I don’t see why anybody–on any side–has to be so dead-set on making everyone else accept their particular speculation. But that’s just me.
I don’t think anybody should be “turned away” from evolution. Basically, I think it should be taught as one of several ideas regarding the long-term history of the universe that can’t be conclusively proven or disproven. Even if we accept evolution as fact, there’s a lot of disagreement between its learned adherents about exactly how it works.
And my general point was that this particular point of disagreement is not worth the hate and discontent that it seems to attract from all sides.
On an unrelated note, getting ready to go to a buddy’s wedding this afternoon, got my daughter in a traditional dress my mother-in-law bought for her in Phnom Penh this last spring, and now I’m trying to figure out how to apply my wife’s incomprehensible collection of strange and esoteric hair-tying accessories to put braids in my daughter’s hair. Does anybody have any advice? Because I have no idea what the hell I’m doing.
Good luck with the daughter’s hair bro. I have no advice other than be thinking of great excuses for why you screwed it up.
I do not envy you…….I have directions to the bunker if you need them.
I’m with you Whitey. It don’t mean jack shit to me.
I’m with you Whitey. I evolved from my father having unprotected sex with my mother. I could care jack shit about what happened before I was conceived. There is so much serious stuff to be concerned about yet the efin religious zealots continue to stand on their soap boxes.
No worries I guess, medical advances are not all that important. I mean, we are probably living too long as it is.
We can always rely on our foreign students to lead the way. Well, except maybe for the beaner anchor babies, too Catholic to study science. Or the little jihadist refugee kids, ole Mo don’t go for that shit.
We always have those little rice propelled rats from Asia to count on, Godless gooks. Oh, and there is plenty of Euro trash to fall back on. I mean they built that head on collider thingy to study bullshit like how it all started.
Nah, we can get by with the Creation Museum teaching kids we used to ride dinos, I mean no harm in calling the Flintstones actual history is there?
Nothing productive could ever come out of Particle Physics, that whole cold fusion thing probably useless.
Ya, the world would probably have just been fine with a little Polio still here. I mean we did have the commies to worry about at the time.
Thinking, its just so hard.
Look on the bright side Dave, the gun nuts cover the spectrum. Personally, creation myths don’t threaten me. This is me, celebrating diversity…serenity now.
Thanks, you reminded me its time to dig out the Festivus Pole and the wrestling mat. Good times on the way.
I am (slowly) reading a book by the name of “Prime Obsession”. Amazing stuff to be found in mathematics and number theory… only if you have faith that the square root of -1 exists as a concept. Great book in that “You’re a deep thinker, aren’t ya Carl.” kind of way. Happy Festivus!
(i) do have faith…../smile
AYE!
More Jamesons please!
Yeah, I’d rather vote for someone of the Global Climate Change Religion who thinks that we can tax ourselves to prosperity. But grain in the pyramids is waaayyyy out there. /eyeroll
Sure you don’t worry, but all of us don’t have a bunker stocked with cheap cigars, liquor, and assault weapons.
Soooo…party at Jonn’s place, then?
That the climate is changing is undeniable and hardly falls into the domain of a religion that needs to be taken on faith.
Now, the wide range of prognostications of what will happen are debatable, and the political ‘solutions’ (e.g., tax ourselves to prosperity) are 99% politics and 1% science,.. but it’s a shame to conflate the scientific issue with the politics associated with it.
And grain in the pyramids isn’t ‘out there’ – I wouldn’t be surprised if, in their insistence on preparing pharaohs for the after life, grain and other foods were also buried with them. However, pyramids built by Joseph for the purpose of storing grain certainly is pretty ‘out there’. In that there’s maybe one person who believes that, and he’s running for President.
Re climate change as a religion, I see the parallel in defensive behavior.
Don’t “believe”? STONE HIM! DENIER! SHOULD BE ARRESTED! Etc. Brought to you by our tolerant left.
And yeah… climate changes. In biblical times they called it “weather”. For the record, I have never denied weather exists.
Its pretty much out there LC. The progression and purpose of the Pyramids its well documented. Sadly, along with the Sphinx, there is also a lot of white noise from the crack pots.
I had an opportunity to tour them and was lucky enough to get into the burial chambers, so sign of aliens, not much room to store anything really, a body clearly, but there was none there.
Maybe it was made for Hondo? Or, is the Mecca? Maybe both. (If he runs for POTUS we need to stop him before he causes a global meltdown. I refuse to cancel my ski trips because of loons like him.)
Was there electrify available? I want to put instant coffee in a microwave while inside the pyramid.
No electricity, flashlights back then. But, I didn’t age a second while it was in there and my knife mysteriously sharpened itself.
Oh, I certainly wasn’t saying I think there’s any merit to it, I was simply saying that someone without any knowledge of the matter beyond “Egyptians buried their dead for the journey to the afterlife in those things” could, reasonably, conclude that some wheat was also stored in there, to feed those people on their> journey. That part of it isn’t absolutely ludicrous, even if nobody thinks it and there’s no evidence for it.
That they were purposely built for mass storage of grain, by Joseph, is waaaay out there, yes. I fully agree that the progression and progress of the Pyramids is well documented.
You must be new here.
Jonn I’m doing my homework when I have time here but one of the big gurus for climate change just came out of the closed raising hell about how most Libbis are twisting what’s going on and are causing a lot of needles regs and suffering, when I find it I’ll send it ASAP…
You can’t see it, but this is my shocked face….
Climate Change has turned into a huge money making business. Ironic how capitalism is okay in conjunction with liberal ideals, but anything else is evil corporations, man……
Read this at first as a ‘monkey making business’. On second thought, I’m not sure I read it wrong!
This is bullshyt! Ben Carson didn’t do a damned thing wrong here…the ass hole from Politico admitted he made the whole pile of bullshyt up!!
Well, the SJWs, Gruppenführer Bloomberg, and Das Führer Soros himself have decreed that blacks aren’t allowed to be conservative, Republicans, or independently successful. So this comes as no surprise.
Pretty much.
L. Taylor hates Allen West. That’s how I know he is a racist.
It is sad, that he also claimed or believes according to his religion apparently that Joseph built the piryminds to store grain.
I have already dug into three stories about the “Outrageous” Things Ben Carson Said, and found them to be normal and innocuous. So I am not even going to bite on this one.
This is kinda my point. Ben is a solid man and one who perhaps has flaws like all of us.
No human is flawless.
Well, maybe Hondo.
Hondo is a god among men, but there can be only one.
Hondo is a Highlander!!??
:p
Hondo as POTUS….Hmmmm. He would let the world go into a global meltdown, no ice caps, no glaciers, the skiing industry would be devastated. No more Winter Olympics, Santa will be in boxers, Jack Frost nothing more than a distant memory.
No thanks, I kinda like Ole Man Winter and would miss him dearly.
For Hondo to be flawless, he’d have had to be a Marine.
So, close but no ceegar.
For $99 I can fix that. With extra $17, you get lab coat.
Carson is still a thousand times better than anything the libs have to offer…
These idiots continue to go leftward to satisfy their base and leave the rest of us wondering WTF.
Another Bernasty photoshop job?
I read the original. Carson did not lie. Politico, the New York Times News Service, and CNN, however, did lie.
Yep, but no surprises here …
It’s what the MSM/Left do.
well it’s safe to assume our leftist media is not likeing Mr Ben and will pull all the stops out to get hi. out of the race Lol…
him and not hi Ops
I’ve gotten to the point that the more the leftard thumb-suckers of the media fuss about a guy, the more I like him as a candidate.
thank You my feelings exactly.
Dr, Carson does not fit the ‘meme’ of the butthurt black man. He is, therefore, persona non grata with the libretards.
I thought you all knew that.
I did too.
Dr. Ben Carson worked to earn what he has, he never played the race or victim card like the plantation left demands. They really don’t have anything to throw at him, thus they’re making things up like that Fred Phelps clone in Florida or Bergdahl’s lawyer!
Yep.
Anybody notice that the uniform they used is jacked up? CIB with no deployment patch? Air Assault on the wrong side? Ribbons not lined up?
Notice it was intentional on the “artists” behalf trying to whoop up veterans everywhere?
There’s way too many people causing problems. Carson didn’t lie about squat, Politico has been called out by WaPo, NY Times and several other lamestream outlets. How many know anything about Obama other than his momma was a star in Frank Marshal’s nude photo review or that Marshal was probably banging her on the couch in his Seattle apartment? How many even care that Obama’s educational and personal records were locked up to prevent looking into his background? Zip.
Have you even seen those photos? They look nothing like her. They were also taken at a time when it couldn’t have been her. See here: http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2012/10/fever-dreams-from-my-real-father-1-nude.html?m=1
Regarding these “sealed” or “locked up” records, see here: http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/
If you want to criticize the guy for something, use facts. There are plenty to use without stuff from crackpots.
Yo “D”. Get back to me when your oldest brother and cousin chased after her in Seattle. Small f’ng world…her mom worked for the same bank my parents banked at, too.
Ok, so even assuming what you say is true, that doesn’t make those pictures her. Go spread that nonsense on World Net Daily or Alex Jones. Even if it is true (and it’s most likely not), who gives a crap? It happened before he was born.
Oh wait…I wasn’t posed to divulge the suspected facts on Frank Marshal, was I/
The day I give a rat’s ass about any story the media has concocted about any politician who does not kiss the media’s ass……..is the day the media finally decides to expose Shillery and ALL her devious devices used to manipulate the truth and gullible Joe Six Pack.
THIS!!!
Word.