Andrew Myers, Iraq veteran murdered in Colorado
Cameron sends us a link to the story of Andrew Myers who was murdered while he was riding hi bicycle by some nutjob who went out on a spree to make a name for himself. Well, that won’t work here. According to KOAA;
35-year-old Andrew Myers, a victim who was fatally shot in Saturday’s shooting spree in downtown Colorado Springs, was a former Fort Carson soldier.
According to the Army, he enlisted in 2003. He served in the Army for ten years, and had several deployments in Iraq.
He received several awards in his time in the Army, including three Army Achievement Medals and three Army Good Conduct Medals. Myers’ highest rank was Sergeant.
In June 2013, he was administratively discharged as a Private.
The shooter was killed by police officers, so we’ll be spared the spectacle of a trial.
As the investigation continues, the suspect’s motive remains unclear. News 5 uncovered some disturbing details that give a look into the gunman’s mind. He had started a blog online, expressing disappointment in his father, who was involved with a church in Redding, California.
In the post, he wrote, “You’re begging for it anyway, like spineless vegetables. People beg for the responsibility to be obliterated.”
In a statement, the suspect’s family said they are shocked and deeply saddened, and they expressed sympathy to the victims.
Yeah, given the irrational babble on his blog, it looks like the family shouldn’t have been all that shocked he was a sociopath, but, I guess we’ll see.
Category: Crime
RIP Sgt. Myers
Special place in hell for the moron on the spree.
Sympathies to the Myers family. No one deserves that, not even a soldier who stepped on his wing-wang and was admin reduced and discharged.
RIP, troop, RIP.
As for the deceased “suspect”, may his name never be mentioned, so that his sought-for 15 minutes of “fame” will fade into black oblivion.
May the shooter’s name be forgotten here on Earth while he spends eternity in hell for what he did.
RIP SGT MEYERS. May the shooter be reincarnated as a pigs asshole. Hopefully raised by inbred family of pig fuckers.
It would be more fitting if he was reincarnated as the only goat among a platoon of taliban boys, that life would be a REAL pain in the ass!!
Rest In Peace Sgt. Myers. God be with your family now.
From this tragedy, we won’t get concerned comment from the left about mental dysfunction and families who keep it a secret until they comment about how surprised they are at their relative’s deeds. No, what we’ll get is more gun control cow shit splattered on the wall of national ears, in the hopes some more will stick. I hope this ass hole felt every shot and died in slow agony.
Bingo, Sparks.
It was the “bleeding heart left” that pushed for “mental health reform” in the 1950s and 1960s, leading to the deinstitutionalization of many seriously ill patients; the closure of many facilities; and the passage of laws making it damn near impossible in many locales to get anyone involuntarily committed until after they’ve done something violent. The combination has had the consequence of making it possible for dangerously imbalanced persons to wander around in society with impunity until AFTER they snap and injure or kill someone.
But it was all done “with the best of intentions”. We saw the result of those “good intentions” here – as well as in Tucson, in Aurora, and in Sandy Hook. EACH of those perps had exhibited behavior that raised huge red flags regarding their mental stability. Yet because of our “bleeding heart” brethren and the legal and institutional changes they caused regarding mental health care, none of them were receiving the treatment they desperately needed.
Why? Because they were adults, and “hadn’t done anything violent”.
Those with bleeding hearts often have blood on their hands. Here, they do.
To be fair some of those “facilities” amounted to little more than state organized torture facilities where the inmates were routinely abused….that is what sparked the reform movement.
Of course the answer is not to dismantle the whole system, but to severely punish the people involved in making those hospitals horror shows…
Not sure how things were in your state but here in the Northeast state hospitals were grim places of misery for many of those same people.
The liberal fix was completely wrong as is their usual outcome when liberals attempt to create a fix…but none of that gains traction had these facilities been professionally with a sense of obligation to truly care for those among our citizens who were truly the least among us….
Just my $0.02 as usual…YMMV which I am certain it should.
Oh, no argument that there were major abuses at some psychiatric hospitals, VOV. But you’re correct – the proper fix wasn’t to dismantle the system and put the patients out on the street. The proper fix would have bee to hammer those guilty of abuse (AKA serious jail time), then reform the existing system before doing anything else. Once that had happened (several years) and was stable, then the system should have been reevaluated and changed as necessary.
Unfortunately, that wasn’t done. Rather, the prevailing “theory du jour” (deinstitutionalization/closure) purporting to offer a quick fix was adopted, along with legal changes ensuring the former system stayed closed. No thought was given to fully predictable second/third order effects down the road.
“Theories du jour” rarely are worth a crap.
Indeed one of the more immutable laws of physics and government seems to be the law of unintended consequence, very unforgiving and seldom avoided.
There are always unintended consequences. They cannot be avoided.
The best you can do is foresee as many as you can a priori, have a plan to mitigate their damage – and be prepared to react early to whatever you didn’t foresee.
Not convinced that the resulting chaos was at all unintended.
It’s been a very long time since I saw the figures but they were astounding. The number of people forced out into the streets who starved to death and froze to death that first winter, plus those who met otherwise violent ends were far more than could conceivably died had they remained under supervision.
No, I never condoned institutional inhumane treatment, but seriously – hundreds of thousands of human beings were released with no where to go, few (if any) social and/or survival skills, and unimaginable hopelessness. All those people were punished, and many died, because the “do gooders” were too lazy to fix the problems that existed. Or maybe they just didn’t care as long as they created problems where none had previously existed.
Theories du jour …
I like that one.
Probably the result of overly emotional, shallow, and uncritical thinking – which appears to be the default mindset of too many Americans. Likely how that idiot in the Whitehouse got re-elected, too.
“It was the “bleeding heart left” that pushed for “mental health reform” in the 1950s and 1960s, leading to the deinstitutionalization of many seriously ill patients; the closure of many facilities; and the passage of laws making it damn near impossible in many locales to get anyone involuntarily committed until after they’ve done something violent.”
Isn’t that ironic?
Is there something in the water in Colorado that draws nutballs? First we have the movie theater shooter (may his name become a mortal curse) and now we have this jackweed (may he carry the pain of the LEO bullets for his next 5,000 lives).
Denial is common in families who have a fear of the stigma of mental illness in a family member. This slimeball’s family most likely knew what he was really like, but to avoid the responsibility of doing something about it, they ignored it.
This murder is the result.
True, Ex. An acquaintance of mine was having mental problems as a young man. He was caught killing neighborhood cats and dogs, mom and dad denied he was responsible. He “acted out” almost daily. Mostly, just being a shit head. Mom and dad denied he was doing it.
Eventually, and, as it turned out, far too late, dad said enough, and began proceedings to get the young man committed. His response was to shoot his father dead, as he walked from the garage to the house one afternoon.
Mom denied that he could have done such a thing, right up until she died.
Jesus.
“Mom denied that he could have done such a thing, right up until she died.”
She and the Sandy Hook murderer’s mom appear to be two peas from the same pod.
Actually, from what I’ve read Lanza’s mom was hardly in denial about her son’s need for mental healt care.
At the time Lanza “went off”, his mother was reportedly actively trying to get him committed. She failed. He then murdered her, then stole her guns and went to shoot up the local school.
She failed at getting him committed because Connecticut law wouldn’t allow him to be involuntarily committed – because he hadn’t done anything violent yet.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=33355
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=38811
That may be true, but I was pointing out that Lanza’s mom still left her weapons unsecured. If she was so convinced that he needed to be institutionalized, how could she not secure them?
So apparently, both moms couldn’t believe that their son’s would commit murder.
Rest Well Fellow NCO…
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Before everyone gets all wishy washy over the deceased veteran, you should remember that you can only be dropped one grade, even through a field grade Art 15, if you are an NCO. So he had to have done something pretty serious to get busted out as a private… Just something to keep in mind.
I believe if you were an asshole in life, you are an asshole in death. Just sayin. Im not prepared to make a judgment against him without knowing WHY he was busted out as a PVT. Nor am I going to arbitrarily give him praise just because he was once an NCO.
Smitty: minor correction. E5 and E6 can be dropped one grade by a Field Grade Article 15 or NJP. But unless things have changed radically, E4 and below can be busted all the way down to E1 by a Field Grade 15.
http://www.calguard.ca.gov/TDS/Documents/Article_15.doc
Being stupid twice and getting a pair of Field Grade 15s could send someone from E5 back to E1. It would also set them up for a virtually automatic Chapter 13 discharge.
Exactly. So either he was courtmartialed or had two field grades. Either way, that doesn’t speak highly of his character
Probably correct. However, I seem to remember hearing of some units that had a “Field Grade 15” policy regarding any alcohol-related incident. If the guy came back from deployment with a drinking problem (or developed one afterwards – one guy I knew apparently did), it’s possible he could have screwed his career in a 1-week span (two incidents), then gotten clean afterwards.
Or maybe he was simply a problem case that managed to make E5 and his chickens finally “came home to roost”. With 10 years in service during the GWOT, I’m wondering a bit why he apparently never pinned on E6.
Dunno, and I guess it doesn’t matter much now. RIP, soldier.
You all need to stop talking garbage about Andrew Meyer, I served with him and he was a humble person. We all make mistakes I do not know what happened to him when he got to Colorado but show respect he did three deployments to Iraq and we do not know what effect it had on his life afterwards. So, please respect his memory and allow him to res in peace.
Suggest you direct your attention to the last para of my comment immediately preceding yours – you know, the one to which you replied. And maybe brush up on your reading comprehension while you’re at it.
Just because he may (or may not) have been stupid during his military service doesn’t make his death any less tragic.
Nor is recognizing that fact giving him praise, it’s just a simple acknowledgement that a 35 year old with 2 pre-teen boys ought not to get shot while riding his bicycle in his neighborhood…
He could have been discharged due to PTS. I’ve heard a lot of stories about soldiers from Carson being bounced out for mental health issues. One troop even recorded his sessions with the counselor who was entirely unsympathetic.
The report was from NPR.
….sigh
Smitty, dont be disrespectful or do I need to whip you’re ass again! Show some class because we all know in our town you’re family has none and after dating you’re sister we all know you’re family is wacko. All you have to say is RIP fallen brother but clearly you don’t understand the brotherhood. I do and I am going to say RIP to my fellow nco.
The opinion of someone who couldn’t hack Basic Training hardly matters, Bunni-boi. How about you grab a big steaming cup of STFU?
Fellow NCO, huh?
Dipshit.
Tough one-Myers at least soldiered and deployed and served–guess he fucked up big time- BUT he did soldier and serve. In Re: the criminal–I believe it’s a good thing to never mention his name: please consider making it policy.
What a tragic and senseless outcome. As Sparks, and so many others (Hondo I’m looking at you bro..) has noted we need a proper health care policy for those citizens unable to maintain their mental health on their own.
Hi!
Even though he obviously did something very wrong in his career to end up as a private after being a sergeant, he put his hand up and ran towards the gunfire. Whatever wrong he did cannot wipe away his TEN years of service keeping all of us safe.
I wonder what service the punk who killed him had?
I’m thinking nothing, zip, zilch and fuck-all.
Andrew Myers clearly screwed up big time BUT!
HE SERVED. He deserves respect for that.
The punk who killed him deserves to be wrapped in bacon fat and served to ISIS gamers ass first, in a burqua.
Cos that’s what they are, you know. Gamers playing the ultimate 1st person Call Of Duty game.
OK, so maybe when Myers returned to the US from deployment, he got into a pawing and snorting match with someone higher up, or maybe he screwed up somehow while deployed.
It does not matter.
He was minding his own business when he was targeted by the less that human thing that shot and killed him, for no reason.
That is all I care about.
I wasn’t saying he deserved to be killed, just that praising his service may not be appropriate. For all we know he was busted down and separated for beating his wife or touching kids.
You are an idiot regardless of what he did he served. What do you about being deploy? Sleeping on the floor, not showering everyday, eating food that makes you constipated, working 12 to 14 hours shift and working in the sun. What do you know about that? So just be quite. Don’t judge him if you do not know him. You are not God or a Judge. Go sit down, or read a book.
Well said..
He enlisted and chose a combat MOS when the Nation was at war. 10 years service during wartime, when 99.9% of his Countrymen could not be bothered to serve.
‘But we in it shall be remember’d;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:’
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[b][i]be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition[/b][/i]
See you in Valhalla, Soldier. Don’t sweat it, lowly combat veteran Privates drink for free too.
Correction and apology;
The first article I read mentioned a combat MOS. He was apparently a helo refueler.
With 3 tours in Iraq, my opinion is basically unchanged.
Agreed. Whatever the pattern of his career or reason for its end, he served when called. For that, he deserves respect. The rest is no longer particularly relevant.
RIP to my fellow soldier and nco!
Well, looks like Bunni-boi “graced” us with his appearance late last night. How’s it going, Mr. Basic Washout?
Why do you constantly bring up fefe my bunny? Are you some sicko perv?
As for my military record I have proven on numerous occasions I reenlisted and recently finished my enlistment. I was discharged as an e-5. Jealous Hondo? Or are you still thinking about my bunny sicko
Little Dalton, all growed up. Seems like yesterday you were telling us you had graduated Army “boot camp” and were so excited about RIP. You’re a fucking moron.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=37002&cpage=2#comment-1485456
He is such a cute bunny. And I will love him, and pet him, and call him George.
I was thinking more like “Little Bunny Foo Foo”.
Me jealous of a Basic washout? Don’t make me laugh.
Let’s see the proof, bunni-boi. I’ve never seen any of your so-called “proof” of service. All I’ve ever seen is the documents from NPRC verifying that you never finished Basic.
“In June 2013, he was administratively discharged as a Private.” And that altogether unnecessary information is provided because?
RIP Soldier.
Regarding mental Health Care and people that should be committed reminds me of one of the cases of stolen valor from a few years back … Epic Beard Man,,, AKA Thomas Alexander Bruso the old man who beat up the guy on the AC Oakland bus.
He claimed,, (and still claims) he was a Vietnam Vet although he was kicked out in Basic after three months.
I look him up on you tube. Since he is a “celebrity” of sorts people seek him out to video him.
He is always drug seeking, constantly being loud and vulgar and just rants like a lunatic.
He is mostly homeless between trips to the nut ward.
He is loud and confrontational, and though he is mostly a blowhard and people will oiveerlook him for being a nut he is going to end up overdosing, freezing to death or running his mouth to the wrong person.
Though it may be costly, the mentally off people like Bruso need to be instituionalized somewhere in a rural area, away from urbam areas where they simply became a part of the landscape and attempt to live off the good will of strangers or rip them off.