All Because of a Film, Eh?
Remember Benghazi? Remember those initial announcements from the Department of State characterizing it as a “spontaneous reaction” to an independent film no one had ever heard of? Remember the US Ambassador to the UN telling everyone five days afterwards that it was a reaction to an anti-Islamic film?
Well, would you like to know what the Secretary of State was told by a confidante two days after the attack? Here it is, courtesy of the New York Times:
Second Memo Provides Detailed Account of Benghazi
The next day [note: this memo was sent on 13 September 2011], Mr. Blumenthal sent Mrs. Clinton a more thorough account of what had occurred. Citing “sensitive sources” in Libya, the memo provided extensive detail about the episode, saying that the siege had been set off by members of Ansar al-Shariah, the Libyan terrorist group. Those militants had ties to Al Qaeda, had planned the attacks for a month and had used a nearby protest as cover for the siege, the memo said. “We should get this around asap” Mrs. Clinton said in an email to Mr. Sullivan. “Will do,” he responded.
Yeah, those suspicions we had were correct. Pretty much any time after 13 September 2011 they were shamelessly lying through their teeth when they blamed Benghazi on an anti-Muslim film.
That’s why “it matters”.
Category: Foreign Policy, Politics, Terror War
Isnt that film maker dead or in prison now because of this web of lies?
But don’tcha know, civvies are expendable in the lies regarding terror.
Everyone is expendable when it comes to furthering the career of Cankles.
Woe be to anyone who incurs the wrath of DAS HILDEBEAST, some have ended up dead or ruined.
Not to defend this Administration, but wasn’t making and posting the video against his probation/parole? I vaugly remember reading something about that.
Close. He violated the terms of his ‘supervised release’ (which differs from parole, among other ways, in that it’s part of the original sentence).
And, just to be clear: Any guy on supervised release with a bank fraud conviction, owing $700K in restitution, who violates the term of his release by (1) producing a movie under an alias and (2) using a computer to engage in undisclosed financial transactions, while also recruiting actors under false pretenses would absolutely face revocation of his release. As the scumbag should.
At the end of the day, he wouldn’t have been put back in jail if not for the state department blaming him.
They snatched him up so quick it was ridiculous. If they were that fast with all crooks, we wouldn’t have any crime.
He’s out of jail and has been on probation since Sept 2013.
Liar, Liar, you pants are on FIRE!!
It must be raining again, my leg is wet.
LOL-but I hope you have on hip waders as well, there appears to be an accumulation of some smelly substance at least knee deep.
I said this elsewhere:
It’s bad enough when you know that the president is lying in his teeth, but when it keeps coming and coming and coming, it’s like being in the path of a broken sewer – the shit just keeps on rolling.
It applies to everything now. I think that we can expect more truckloads of crap to be spilled on the roadway over the next 19 months.
I’m hoping that this will actually make Nixon look less annoying and the democraps will look at least as bad, maybe worse. After all, what goes around, comes around.
The Democrats have done a very good job of making Republicans and particularly Republican presidents responsible for the ills of the US.
The Republicans have been much less successful at making Democratic presidents responsible for the crap that they did during their presidency.
Johnson. I need say no more.
Carter. Same.
Clinton – the shining light of morality in American, Mogadishu, Waco, embassy bombings in east Africa, the assault weapon ban, keeping that terrorist thing under control, and on and on.
Mr. Obama has a more impressive string of accomplishments. Nobel prize after three days in office. Illegal aliens. Abandoning Iraq. Abandoning Afghanistan (I might give him a pass on that one). Obamacare. The IRS scandal. Benghazi. Arab spring. Keystone pipeline. Russia. Iran. Trying to screw Israel. A dramatic increase of racial issues. Inflation has been 5% per year throughout his term and he has done nothing about it. He did nothing about the national debt.
Republicans run against THAT!!! You guys are more or less on the same side (except for Lindsay Graham). Stop beating each other up, that just plays into Democratic hands and splits the party. Stop it!!
” He did nothing about the national debt. ”
I’d disagree with that statement, he did do something about it. He doubled the national debt….
When the DNC wanted to have their convention in Chicago a few years ago, the press brought up the 1968 DNC convention, the hippie riots, the then-mayor John Daley’s ‘shoot to kill’ order, etc., etc., as if 1968 as YESTERDAY instead of 26 years in the past. That crapazoid behavior on the part of the media cost hotel, restaurant and bar owners millions of dollars that they were expecting to bring in from convention visitors. People avoided Chicago like the Plague was underway.
I blame EVERYTHING that is wrong with the DNC and the current administration on THEM. The democraps themselves are bad enough, but the media are their enablers in it.
I read that article twice, and I am thoroughly confused (that’s not really hard to do, actually.) But somebody explain why the administration went with the first, inaccurate report (film related violence) instead of the second, accurate report (Al-Qaeda violence using the film as a cover.) What possible justification could they have to turn Benghazi from a terrorist attack into a racist-provoked attack?
Wasn’t there some speculation in the blogosphere that the Al Qaeda connection was hidden is that the official line of the administration was that Al Qaeda was on the run, and defeated? Leading up to the election in November, no indication that the administration was wrong about terrorism could be stated. Makes sense to me. Can’t interfere with the narrative.
George V.
Libya was supposed to an ally and a “safe” area. Per our intel: “No bad guys there”. And hence lacked good security, good intel, good anything. Blaming the film was easier than blaming our inability to properly secure an embassy.
Because elections were months away, and Obama had declared El Qaeda defeated and on the run. His administration knew that Benghazi could cost them the election months away. What they didn’t count on was the Republican’s ability to completely blow the election out of their collective asses with great efficiency.
Part of it had to do with the fact that the embassy in Tripoli had been begging for increased security for months prior to Benghazi, with such requests being ignored by the State Department.
It always seemed to me that the thing that made the official “spontaneity” narrative fall apart was simply the timeline of events at the consulate in Tripoli. The attackers, for example, immediately forced the front gate, went directly to a fuel stockpile, and set the place on fire. Such a sequence was a clear demonstration of planning. It was not the way things would have happened if a protest got out of control.
“…the consulate in Tripoli” should read Benghazi. Sorry for the error.
Rumor has it that they were running guns to those fine folks in Syria.
“We should get this around asap” That may be wrong. Based upon what she, her staff, and the White House said AFTER that memo was received, I think she may have written, “We should get around this asap.” Recall that it five days after the attack that Rice blamed the video. “But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo.” It was suspected bullshit then: it is confirmed bullshit now. She got promoted for it–and Wide Load still thinks she is entitled to be Queen. Phukers all.
Well, it could simply be that marching orders were not necessarily coming from the boss on paper but from somewhere else. The personal agendas of the guy running for reelection and the Hildabeast never were quite the same. Oh, sure, their world views and ultimate goals are nearly identical, but they still would each like to see the other one fail.
(Funny thing is that it was her husband who tanked her last run, and it appears that he is doing it again.)
Does anyone really think that if the prez gave Rice her script that a mere SoS could make her deviate from that script?
Hildabeast!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! *stolen*
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13 Sept 2001 – I think you meant 2011, didn’t you? Quibbling, I know, but this wasn’t under da bush.
I am not surprised by any of this. I have not believed, and DO NOT believe ANYTHING that comes out of Washington, DC, from anyone even remotely connected to bodaprez.
WE all knew it was pure BS then, so why is anyone even vaguely surprised by this?
I am SO glad I did not vote for that asshole.
Can we get someone into that seat that actually gives a crap about the job?
Hey – 13 Sep 2011 IS after 13 Sep 2001, isn’t it? (smile)
Seriously, thanks. Had a typo in the date pre-publication and apparently introduced another error while fixing the first. It’s corrected above now.
I’m just waiting for people who were told what to say and how to say it decide that the gloves are off, once that moron and his cronies are gone. I have seldom been as disgusted with anyone, including Nixon and Carter combined, as I am now with this bunch of shitholes in my White House.
Was Blumie an official source of information at the time or just a private citizen/journalist with a “unique” sourcing asset in Libya?
Does the state department typically choose the intelligence offered by a private citizen over a CIA analysis?
Does the white house tend to use private analysis over CIA and Pentagon sources?
If the answer to these questions is no, it’s less incriminating than it looks based simply on the concept the administration could have been waiting for a Government source to confirm Sid Blumenthal’s initial information.
Doesn’t really matter what the answers are, the clowns chose to ignore the official reports even prior. That would suggest something beyond simple culpability.
VOV. You write as though this were a casual acquaintance of Wide Load’s who took a chance and emailed her. He sent the then-Secretary of State emails directly, first talking about the video and, in a wink, abandoning and informing her of trusted information that the demonstration was a cover for a planned attack. Clinton forwarded that email to others while, we, at least here at TAH, were calling bullshit! All day long on the video tripe. In other words, that source, a former CIA guy, had the skinny, served it up to Blumenthal who, in turn and damn quickly, sent it to Wide Load. Yes, I’d say that she trusted it and yet…video…spontaneous…bullshit. Did Wide Load share the info with the WH? Did the former CIA guy share it with the CIA and, perhaps, the White House? Did anyone believe that video explanation, even in the WH? If not, why did the WH jump on that and stay with that bullshit? Did it have thorough CIA analysis that it was the video that prompted the attack? What sort of horse’s asses make such claims without evidence to support it and, more importantly, why would they do so? May I suggest it’s b/c they all damn well knew that the protest was a ruse and that they had all let their guard down–or worse.
I was writing it as it will be perceived in the MSM I fear.
If “what difference does it make” in fact made no difference in the coverage why would we think this current exposure would make a difference?
Of course everyone with more than 2 working brain cells knew it was a terrorist attack, the date of the attack should have made that obvious to any moron except apparently the liars at 1600 PA Avenue.
I just remain unconvinced anything will come of this that hurts her primary campaign.
She might be even more teflon coated than Slick Willie.
Well, in my view, the only reason the BIG MEDIA are running with this now is b/c she is no longer their girl who would be queen. Were it not for that, I have little doubt that this bone would stay buried. By the way, Blumenthal was served and will soon be testifying under oath about what he learned, when, and with whom he shared it. Wide Load was never placed under oath, something about which she would doubtless say, ‘What difference does it make now?’
The Three Stooges could could run things at least five hundred times better and more competently than B. Hussein 0bama & Company ever have or ever will. What have they ever been concerned with other than keeping themselves in the lap of taxpayer-funded luxury and perks?
Proud, maybe I’m wrong but they think that this is how it is supposed to be. They don’t think that they are stupid. They think that I am (and perhaps we are) stupid and wrong. They control or at least lead a huge bureaucracy and fantastic amounts of money. If that wasn’t doing mostly what they wanted, they would fix it.
They are not inept. They think that it should work like this, that these are the right values.
When we think that they are stupid, then we underestimate them as opponents. That does not work well for us.
And I have no doubt whatsoever that if he were running again, he would win. People vote their self interest, just as pols act in their self interest. Tomorrow doesn’t matter. The country and its stature (what’s left of it) don’t matter. Selflessness and self discipline are quaint notions, mainly practiced by neanderthals and saps. Hell, the Constitution is something most people are ignorant of and others are selectively supportive of (i.e., if a provision or a Sup Ct decision supports their view, they are good with that.) We’ve all ready had the ‘me generation.’ I don’t know what to call this very large group of multi-generational jerks.
Exactly 2/17. Folks at let’s say a “more conservative” news network that I watch are upset that Hillary isn’t taking questions from the press. Hell, she don’t have to. She knows all she has to do is show up in November 2016 and she’ll win. With the points you made and the combined voting block of college kids,minorities, feminist,low-information voters and illegals (yes they will vote), I really don’t see anything changing
Well, looky here, peeps. The CIA is shutting down its climate research program, named MEDEA.
Medea, in case anyone doesn’t know the story, was a bitch and a witch who killed her two children by Jason (the Argonaut) and left the palace in a flaming winged chariot pulled by two dragons, heading for Athens. Sometimes, their acronyms are ridiculously inappropriate.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cia-shuts-down-climate-research-program/ar-BBk6lK9
While ancient history does show that loss of precipitation in one place may drive a tribe to make war on another tribe to get its water and croplands for the purpose of survival, it’s less likely nowadays. We are not remotely as tribal as people were back in the ancient days of YORE.
The prime example of ‘less likely’ is Norkiland, which was experiencing a long-term drought under Fatty Kim da T’ird’s daddy, Squashy Kim, and the Chinese wouldn’t let his starving citizens migrate into their country.
The preposterous idea that climate satellites can’t provide the same data as CIA satellites got my attention very quickly. The GOES and NOAA satellites have been in use for some time now and have NEVER been a secret of any kind. However, if fudging the numbers came out of this program, someone somewhere has some serious ‘splainin’ to do.
Gee, where will they get their classified weather forecasts from now?