F-35 problems continue

| April 28, 2015

The most expensive weapons program in the Department of Defense, the F-35 Lightening took another hit yesterday, this time from Federal auditors who have determined that the engine is unreliable – but what aircraft really needs a reliable engine, right? From Fiscal Times;

The GAO’s findings come just as lawmakers are considering whether to grant the DoD an additional $1.2 billion for the jet engines next year. They’ve already approved roughly $17 billion of the total $67 billion for the F-35’s engines alone. The entire program’s price tag is about $391 billion and counting.

“This means that the engine is failing at a much greater rate and requiring more maintenance than expected,” auditors said in the report. “While overall reliability has increased, engine reliability over the last year has remained well below expected levels. Improving the F-35 engine reliability to achieve established goals will likely require more time and resources than originally planned.”

You might remember that the service chiefs are using the capabilties of the F-35 as a close air support aircraft as an excuse to dump the A-10 Thunderbolt. But you know, since the F-35 is proving to be a money pit and probably won’t be ready for combat this decade, Congress has extended the A-10’s life. From Tucson News Now;

The House Armed Services Committee restored $682 million in funding for the A-10, funding which was in doubt.

“So today is a really big victory,” says District 2 Republican Martha McSally. “I don’t have to offer an amendment or run around getting offsets to funding.”

The money is not guaranteed beyond 2016 because the Department of Defense does its budget annually.

The Air Force or Defense Department could dump it anyway.

But for the first time in a while, the A-10 has some new support.Texas Republican Mac Thornberry, the new chair of the committee, has given a thumbs up in his support of the mission saying “the budget driven decision to retire the A-10 is misguided.”

The Defense Department and the White House have been cramming both of these programs down the taxpayers’ throats for years. Obviously, neither is all that interested in national defense and they’re making decision based on political expediency instead of the lives of the troops and pilots.

In other Warthog News, Pinto Nag sends us a link to the news that an A-10 that had suffered “catastrophic failure” over the war against ISIS was forced to land at an Iraqi airbase deep behind the battle lines.

The “catastrophic damage” might suggest the engine was hit by surface-to-air missiles or another kind of anti-aircraft weaponry (especially because the A-10s operate at low altitude and have already been targeted by MANPADS in Iraq); however, according to Stars and Stripes, Col. Patrick Ryder, a CENTCOM spokesman, told reporters that the plane was not hit by enemy fire, and he downplayed the incident.

Ayn al-Asad Airbase, in the Sunni western province of Al Anbar, was one of the largest Iraqi airbases, and the second-largest US military airbase in Iraq until the last Marines withdrew from the country and the installation was closed on December 31, 2011. Since late October 2014, the airbase, which hosts several US Marines and advisors for the local security forces, has frequently been under attack by Islamic State militants.

The “Cross of Death” was repaired and flown to safer surroundings.

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Hondo

You weren’t supposed to tell anyone that, Jonn. Spilling the beans like that was disloyal!

(Yes, I’m being sarcastic as hell.)

19Delta

Somehow I don’t think you’ll ever read or hear about an F-35 being able to land at an airbase behind enemy lines and being made flight capable again in a short period of time.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Not enough people alert, Ike’s warning has fallen on a lot of deaf ears. Too many celebrity worshippers and not enough responsible citizens caring about their nation and the legacy they leave behind.

Healthy skepticism has always been the cornerstone of the US with respect to the military, in our fawning hero worship of late some civilians seem confused that they can simultaneously show great respect for the actual men and women serving our great nation while questioning our leaders and the military’s leaders as the nature of this debacle known as the F35. We the people have always had a right to know what the hell we are paying for regardless of what the government wants to tell us.

The F35 may yet prove to be the best weapon system on the earth in all of history, which will be great indeed but that doesn’t change my right to ask why the fuck no one is being held accountable for the disastrous planning and prototype execution currently underway.

GDContractor

Yeah you (and I) have every right to ask. Just don’t be surprised when the answer is “At this point what difference does it make!?!?!?”

Pinto Nag

I can tell you for sure that no one with any responsibility has ever asked me, or anyone I know, what we thought about the F-35. Why? Because nobody in power cares what I think, they only care what I earn.

Richard

“Well it’s really fast! And it looks cool! And it has the radar cross section of a mating mosquito! And its black! These little problems with unreliable engines will get worked out, they are just a SMOC – small matter of cash.”

I suppose that I shouldn’t ask but … what happens to the aircraft if the engine fails in flight? Based on shape, I suspect that the aircraft has the glide ratio of a brick so its going to crash close to the failure, the pilot will eject before it crashes and will have to be recovered by a SAR unit, and the aircraft will be a total loss. Now suppose that the engine fails during combat? Yeah so the engine doesn’t really matter.

I wear boots mostly because the Army told me that I had flat feet so I couldn’t pilot a helicopter. That rule probably saved my life. Apparently the boots made me stupid because I don’t see a good way out of the conundrums above.

end sarcasm.

2T451USAF

“The House Armed Services Committee restored $682 million in funding for the A-10, funding which was in doubt.

“So today is a really big victory,” says District 2 Republican Martha McSally. “I don’t have to offer an amendment or run around getting offsets to funding.”

If anybody on that committee knows the importance of the A-10, it’s Col. McSally.

Poetrooper

Let’s see, the engine’s unreliable and the on board close air support gun system doesn’t work.

What’s to worry?

FasterThanFastjack

Oh hey, it’s just an ungodly expensive coffin, but it can still go into production, right?

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Regarding the A10 engine damage, that was just the result of a low level gun run where the pilot sucked a couple of ISIS fighters into the engine. Rumor has it that they were in the prone position during this incident. Let’s see the F35 do that…

Bill R.

That’s funny right there!!

68Whiskey

“The most expensive weapons program in the Department of Defense”

or

“the History of all Mankind.”

Bill R.

As a former F-16 mechanic, I’m not going to get too excited about these engine problems. I recall many growing pains from both the F100PW-200 and the F110GE-100 as well as the F110GE-129. The F-35 is still flying sorties and as far as I know, none have gone down from engine related problems. I do believe that this is just piling on from all the other problems this jet has. The one thing that is very true is that it is not time to retire the A-10 and it won’t be unless and until we build another aircraft dedicated to CAS missions. There is no other jet out there that can do the job as well as, let alone better than the A-10.

Poetrooper
Virtual Insanity

Well, at least if one engine fails it has anoth…what? Only one engine?

Shit, even the Army has figured out two engines are better than one….

AW1Ed

“– but what aircraft really needs a reliable engine, right?”
Single engine ones.

Like the F-35…..

I have a rule when I fly. Count the number of engines on both wings, or wherever. Divide by 2. The quotient best be a whole number, or I’m not boarding.

Hondo

So, what’s wrong with a 727 or L1011?

AW1Ed

Hard to steer when the third engine grenades and blows off the vertical stab.
😉

Thunderstixx

OK, the gun doesn’t work right, the engine isn’t as reliable as it should be…
I know, let’s go back to biplanes and tossing grenades out of them…