That confusing fight in the Middle East
So, get your program out so you can follow this thing; While we’re negotiating with Iran over their nuclear ambitions, we’re flying US aircraft in support of Iranian troops in Iraq. We’re also supporting the Saudis as they begin to whack Iranian-supported rebels in Yemen. The war in the Middle East is shaping into a war between Sunnis and Shi’ites. From Fox News;
Top Sunni clerics have voiced their support for the Saudi-led intervention in Yemen Friday, while top Iranian leaders including President Hasan Rouhani have already condemned the intervention.
Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the Shiite group Hezbollah in Lebanon condemned the “Saudi-American attack,” saying “it is the right of Yemen’s people, who are brave and resilient, to fight and resist, and they will succeed.
U.S. officials told the paper that Saudi officials have requested air tankers to refuel planes and for more American-made bombs to continue with the strikes. The U.S. is preparing to help the Saudis once the requests are approved in Washington.
Under the plan, the U.S. would step up its role in a new military coordination center to aid the Saudi Arabia-led campaign.
Meanwhile in Switzerland, the western nations are trying to hammer out a deal to rein in Iran’s nuclear ambitions while Iran seeks to have the sanctions against them lifted, according to AFP;
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani called Thursday for the “unjust” sanctions choking the country’s economy to be lifted, with global powers insisting sanctions will only be suspended, not lifted, as a safeguard against any violations.
The emerging accord is to be rounded out with complex technical annexes by a June 30 deadline.
According to Fox News, Iran is “pissed” that Iraqi forces have “partnered” with US airstrikes in the battle for Tikrit;
“[The Iranians] are really pissed that Iraq is choosing to partner with the U.S. in the battle for Tikrit,” the official said.
The heavy involvement of Iran-backed Shiite militias in the battle for Tikrit, currently held by the Islamic State, was a big factor in the United States’ initial reluctance to get involved.
But with the U.S. launching airstrikes, Iran has threatened to order all its Shiite militias, including members of the powerful Badr Brigade, out of the area and in some cases out of Iraq, according to the official.
“They will probably send them to Yemen,” he said, referring to the widespread fighting in the unstable nation where Saudi Arabia and others are now battling Iran-backed forces for control.
Meanwhile, in Yemen, the US rescued two Saudi pilots who ejected from their F-15 jet over the Gulf of Aden during combat operations against the Houthis, reports Fox News;
The two airmen ejected from their F-15 and were rescued around 5:20 p.m. ET in international waters by a HH-60 helicopter, a U.S. defense official said Friday.
The USS Sterett, USS New York and USS Djibouti participated in the operation, the official said.
Also on Friday, Saudi Arabia praised the U.S. for helping an Arab air campaign against Yemen’s rebels.
The Saudi ambassador in Washington, Adel al-Jubeir, said the U.S. has been “very supportive” of the operation politically and logistically. He said the kingdom is “very pleased” with the level of coordination with the U.S., which has established a joint planning cell with Saudi Arabia to coordinate U.S. and military and intelligence support.
So, let me see if I got this straight – we’re fighting against the Sunni ISIS thugs and we’re trying to dethrone the Syrian Assad who is supported by the Shi’ite Iranians and opposed by ISIS. The Iranians are also fighting against ISIS, along with their proxies Hezbollah. We’re supporting the Sunni Saudi government who is fighting the Iranian-backed Shi’ite rebels in Yemen. It all makes perfect sense. Or not.
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There is only one “solution” in the middle east but it is totally unacceptable as it is too hard to drill for oil thru 50M of glass.
Truth.
Its a puzzle wrapped in an enema.
That is a understatement LMAO ! ! !
And there’s that part about the Saudis giving Israel permission to use Saudi airspace to fly strikes against Iran, should they need to do so.
You have to add that to the mix.
And Jordan. Jordan’s on the leader board, too. Oh, crap – what about Egypt? Are they just handling the stuff in Libya? I know they have an interest in Libya’s oil wells.
It has always been a war between the sects. This war has been going on since soon after Muhammed’s death, and it has been a major element of every conflict in the region. The mess in Syria and Iraq are directly attributable to the split.
And all due to the Paris Peace Treaty of 1919, where the artificial boundaries of the ME were drawn. And we are still dealing with the aftereffects today.
We could make it easy- “us” and “them”. The choice is theirs, they can be part of “us” or ” them” and live or die with their choice.
“Us” = good guys
“Them” = bad guys
It makes sense if you consider the petro-dollar and the future of the oil trade and how that is effecting our alliances. We are in a global power struggle with Russia, China, and the EU. The EU has some aligned interests with us and some not aligned, they would prefer oil be traded in Euros but would rather have the dollar than the yuan, ruble, or gold so they are aligned with us because the euro crisis. China has some aligned interests as well but they are playing a long game and they are likely to screw us over in the end even on those things we consider ourselves to be aligned in the near term, China wants to trade in gold, or an open currency market. Russia is largely not aligned with us at all in this struggle. China and Russia are aligned in breaking the trade of oil petro-dollars.
ISIS was an unanticipated confounding variable that has really made a mess of things. We cannot effectively deal with ISIS directly. We need to work with allies. And those alliances also need to preserve the long term dominance of the petro-dollar.
The fact that it is becoming a Sunni-Shia war is to be expected and anticipated. What else could happen if Sunni extremists attempt to establish a Sunni Caliphate that expands into Shia areas?
Russia pulled out of the petro-dollar this year.
Syria pulled out in 2006. Syrian revolution 2011. Russia and Syria are aligned on breaking the pretro-dollar.
Libya was attempting set up a gold-oil market in 2011. Just before the revolution.
Iraq declared the intent to do so in 2000 (under Saddam). We invaded in 2003.
Our alliance and support for the Saudi regime goes back to a defense agreement we made in 1971 that we would defend the regime as long as they helped to keep OPEC tied to the petro dollar. We made the same deal with Kuwait, UAE, and Qatar.
This was necessary to keep the dollar from being devalued when we abandoned the Bretton Woods system.
Right now Iran is a wildcard. If we do not improve relations with Iran they will align with Russia or China. They already abandoned the petro-dollar and recently too abandoned the dollar in all trade.
These were intended to send a message to neocons and American hardliners and threaten the stability of the dollar.
We really need to establish a cooperative relationship with Iran. Pushing them to Russia and aligning their efforts to destroy the petro-dollar would be counterproductive.
We also risk pushing them into a military alliance with China. Something China wants as they try to expand their ability to project military power.
I do not believe that the all of problems and the alliances that we have in the ME involve oil.
Some, maybe to an extent. But not all.
The problems there begin and end with Islamic extremists.
Maybe I’m an idiot but I still think that some actions taken in the ME had honorable intentions. Not all conservatives think in dollars. In fact in my personal experience, the people that have attempted to screw me over the most financially have been very liberal politically. I live in a very conservative community that is nearly all Christian. I have never seen a more generous group of people, and I have been around the world. If someone is in need, they are taken care of immediately. So I can state with utmost certainty that conservatives are not all greedy, self serving, bigots.
The effort to maintain the petro-dollar has been a priority for both democrat and republican administrations for 4 decades. The tactics have been different.
This recent party divergence on Iran is not a disagreement on maintaining the petro-dollar. It is a disagreement on how best to do so.
Our relationship with many nations in the middle east is ENTIRELY about oil. Our support for the Saudi regime, our defense of Kuwait, and our invasion of Iraq absolutely is about the petro-dollar.
Believe what you want.
Meanwhile back at the ranch……….
Dave, ya coulda posted a warning!
The only thing that is not confusing about US foreign policy at the moment is that our CinC doe NOT support Israel. Beyond that, it appears that every foreign policy choice made by these clowns is the one which will make the US look most foolish that day.
But 7 years ago Sarah Palin was accused of not having the required experience to handle foreign policy and was too stupid to handle it.
Yeah, we’re much better off now. Sarc/off
Yep. Meanwhile, she was the only candidate with any executive experience. That just didn’t seem to matter though. (And still doesn’t, apparently.)
I wish that it would have been different back then. “They” say to look at where you are now and where you were 4 years ago, see if you are better or worse to help you decide on who to vote for. Well, I am a lot worse off since mom-jeans has had the con. But I guess that’s Bush’s fault. I pray that the American people pull their collective heads out of their a$$es during the next election. I didn’t think we could make through 8 years of these jack-wagons, I know we won’t make it through 12.
Sorry. Rant off
Thank God for hydrofracking.
It has ALWAYS been a Sunni-Shia war, we just let ourselves be duped into supporting one side or the other at different times. The conflict will not end until the two ME superpowers (Iran and Saudi Arabia) have had enough killing, which won’t be any time soon because they both direct confrontation and use proxies to do their fighting. TE Lawrence learned this about a hundred years ago, as did his counterpart, Gertrude of Iraq (I’m not making that up). ME analysts used to have a saying that the Saudis will fight Israel to the last drop of Egyptian blood.
This conflict is not worth another American life- really, the life of anyone from outside the region. I say we contain them and let them have the ME version of WW I.
I wholeheartedly agree. It’s better that we get out of the way and not waste any more blood and treasure. Our meddling causes 100x the problems that it solves.
World War 1 is a good analogy. Lots of informal/formal alliances and powers looking to expand their territory / spheres of influence.
For those who are interested, here’s a link to a rather brief essay,“America, Oil, and War in the Middle East,” by a professor of ME studies at Rutgers. It does not go to today’s particulars but provides a good framework and background for considering the confusing mess that is the ME today.
http://jah.oxfordjournals.org/content/99/1/208.full.pdf+html
It’s hard to predoct what will happen in a snake pit.