John Collier mounts the stolen valor phony pony once again
You might remember this fellow from when we first busted him over two years ago and then in September when he was busted once again by the folks at Guardians of Valor. We originally got wind of him when he refused to stop pretending to be a sergeant major after Doug Sterner busted him.
Well, he tried to order more phony finery from our friends at MyServicePride, a small family-run operation that caters to real soldiers who want to put together their ribbon racks. This is what Collier tried to order;
Distinguished Service Cross, Defense Distinguished Service Medal, Silver Star, Soldier’s Medal, Purple Heart and 3rd award of the Combat Infantryman Badge. Of course, there are no devices on any of the medals, because he’s into colors, not shinies. Kind of hard to be a sergeant major with just one Good Cookie and one NCOPD school. That’s quite a bit more than his FOIA says that he actually earned (an Army Service Ribbon and an Expert BOLO badge) as a fueler and an mechanic.
Dear phonies, the third award of the CIB means that you served in three conflicts – the Korean War, the Vietnam War (Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm or Somalia) and the War Against Terror. It doesn’t mean that you had three deployments during any one of those wars. For example, if you had gone to Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm and Somalia (assigned as an infantryman in an infantry battalion), you’d still have just one award of the CIB. I want to invest in the first company to manufacture the 4th award of the CIB – there’s no such thing, but the phonies will buy them up by the crate when they’re available because they just don’t understand.
The folks at My Service Pride, of course, rejected his order and warned him that pretending to be something he’s not is against the law. But that’s never stopped him before. He loves the phony life that he’s created for himself, and I’m sure we’ll read about it in his obituary, when that day comes.
Oddly enough, I’ve had mail in the last few days from phonies who write that they have learned their lesson, so wouldn’t I please take down my posts about them – John Collier is just one of the many reasons that I won’t do that.
Category: Phony soldiers
FWIW: currently, there are 324 documented 3-time recipients of the CIB. All were awarded the CIB for World War II, Korea, and Vietnam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Infantryman_Badge#The_list
The list is unofficial, and may not be complete. But if the guy claiming 3x CIBs isn’t on that list, I wouldn’t buy the claim.
Thanks for that, Hondo. Saw two names from my past on there. One, A.B. Cannon, was jump school cadre at Fort Campbell on 1959 when I went through. He was one tough bastard. He had four or five stars on his master blaster wings. Saw him at a Static Line reunion in Atlanta ten years ago and he still looked lean and mean.
The other was LTC Joe Wasco who was my battalion CO in Vietnam. He was a tough old warhorse who was harder than he needed to be on his staff, especially his junior officers. I know because I worked for him directly as BN CBR NCO which in Nam actually meant assistant S-2/S-3 NCO since CBR wasn’t used there. I saw him relieve young officers for things beyond their control, effectively ending their careers. One was a West Pointer and a damned fine officer.
I damned near forgot that my old division commander at Ft. Campbell, William Westmoreland, would be on that list as serving in three wars except that as a general officer in Vietnam he was not eligible for another award of the CIB.
A.B. Cannon was cadre when I went through in 9/60.
Posers wearing the 3rd award CIB are the most idiotic of the bunch. Very few of them know to check A.R. 670-1 on how to dress a uniform.
POETROOPER wrote: “I worked for him directly as BN CBR NCO which in Nam actually meant assistant S-2/S-3 NCO since CBR wasn’t used there.” ________________________ @ POETROOPER, Et Alii: Au contraire! One thing about service in the old Republic of Viet Nam, everybody’s story is going to be different, depending on when they were there, where they were at, what unit they were in, and what their actual job was. In the 101st Airborne Division (Airmobile), where I was a Field Radio Relay and Carrier Equipment Repair Specialist at Camp Eagle, between Hue and Phu Bai, in 1970 to 1972, I saw and spoke with Infantrymen who carried a special lightweight gas mask on their web gear, which protected against riot agents, but not lethal poisonous gases. On Camp Eagle, we all had our M-17 Protective Masks with us at all times, and on our folding canvas cots, slept with them as pillows, along with our flak vest, steel pot, web gear, and loaded M-16. There on base camp, with the combination of unit rivalry and troop boredom, there were frequent instances of CS grenades being tossed, just for fun, or to break up the tedious monotony. My unit, the 501st Signal Battalion (Airmobile) had the theatre, which was benches under the open sky, with a combination stage and screen, for live performances or movies. When movies were being shown, the LRRPs from “L” Company, 75th Infantry Regiment (Airborne Ranger), would sit on one side of the theatre, and the “Blues” from “D” Troop, 2/17th Cavalry, would sit on the other side of the theatre, and us poor souls from the 501st Signal Battalion (Airmobile) would be stuck sitting right smack in the middle of it all. During the movie, someone would yell, “Rangers Suck!”, which would be answered by, “Cav Sucks!”, and then the fight was on, during which, CS canisters would be popped, causing me (and others) to don my M-17 Protective Mask. CS canisters were also used for vermin control in our hooches, which we’d seal up and fill with CS fumes to rid our comfortable homes… Read more »
20+ years in the Infantry, and I know one 2 star CIB guy (WW II, Korea, Vietnam) and he’s a retired VCSA who I never knew in uniform. Even the 1 star guys are getting kind of rare now.
Very few have earned the perfect attendance award.
Stuff like this makes me want to buy something just to support these guys. Well done.
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Don’t these douche bags ever learn? MyServicePride isn’t going to tolerate this BS, my hat is off to them!
I love MyServicePride. Outstanding service and an outstanding product. I’ve ordered two sets of ribbons for my trucks and one set for my dad. I highly recommend supporting them.
Most recently I bought a rack and stuck it to a blank hitch cover. It looks a whole lot nicer than any hitch cover I could have bought.
Of course, it’s not mathematically possible to earn the CIB with 2 stars today since anyone who was 18 years old in, say, mid 1953 during the Korean war, would have to have been born in 1935 which would mean that by the time the GWOT qualifying period started (9/11/01) he would have been 66 and too old to serve in the military.
When I first entered the Army in 1980, if you saw an older CSM, COL or General Officer, they would often have the CIB with two stars. Since I was at Benning we probably had more 2-star CIB holders than most. I know the post commander, MG Grange, had a CIB with two stars. Of course, back then, 3rd award of the CIB meant WWII – Korea – Vietnam, and that was certainly possible to do during a 20 – 25 year career.
Quick question, other than Gen Bradley (who I believe was allowed to stay on “active duty” technically until he died) does anyone know when the last WWII veteran retired from the military? I’m sure somebody’s got to have that statistic somewhere.
Earl Fox died while on active duty in 2012. He was clearly an anomaly.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/obituaries/dr-earl-fox-who-had-been-last-active-duty-world-war-ii-veteran-dies-at-93/1255256
Actually, I don’t think CAPT Fox was on active duty at the time of his death. He appears to have retired from active duty in Nov 1999 – at age 80.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/last-active-wwii-vet-retires/
Oops, my bad. Thanks for the correction, Hondo. I think I even saw that in one of the links as I was searching the information, but completely blew it off after I saw the link to his obituary. Shame on me.
Learned to fly a military helicopter at age 55? That’s crazy!
In the late fifties and early sixties there were quite a few WWII/Korean NCO’s with combat stars on their jump wings in the 101st at Fort Campbell, especially in the 187th Airborne area down by the division jump school, because the Rakkasans jumped in Korea.
MARTIN JUMPER wrote:
“he would have been 66 and too old to serve in the military”
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@ MARTIN JUMPER, Et Alii:
I’ve lost track of time (one of the problems of aging), but several years ago, I attended the United States Army’s birthday party at the Pentagon.
As part of the ceremony, the birthday cake is sliced with an Army sabre, jointly held by the youngest soldier and the oldest soldier.
The oldest soldier was SEVENTY (70) years old!
He was in combat fatigues, with every qualification badge and/or shoulder tab you could imagine, crew cut hair was gray, and physically, he was in better shape than the average Basic Combat Training graduate.
He was one tough dude!
Someone else here at the “THIS AIN’T HELL” web site commented that, since that birthday party at the Pentagon, they thought they’d seen him working in Afghanistan in a civilian capacity, having finally retired from the United States Army.
Dirtbag.
Collier is stuck on stupid!
Way to go, Johnny-boy… time to Google pimp-slap your dumb ass again!
I don´t know if I posted it the last time this douche was on topic…
but in all of his alleged “greatness” he is spotting 2 ridiculous “awards”
1. German Marksman Badge/Cord in Silver!
Man… noone in Germany even wears that. Bronze you get a “go” because it could mean, that you just didn´t fire all the necessary weapons. But Silver and Gold are the same, except for shooting “silver” you had to have a crooked eye on one side and none at all on the other, plus 2 limbs where your hands are supposed to be…
2. His foreign “Jump Wings”
They aren´t actually. Its the beret insignia of the british Parachute Regiment and by no means an award to wear on a uniform.
I am refering to this picture btw… and might be wrong about the german badge…
still the british Parachute Regiment beret insignia is sooo wrong and stupid.
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Shitbag. And this is example number one of why Jonn doesn’t take these posts down after you turds have been outed. I’m really surprised he doesn’t have the gold star on his jump wings. You don’t see a lot of phonies try playing that card.
Dick Breath! I hate sons of bitches who claim even one CIB they didn’t earn! Of the VERY few awards I have it is the most meaningful to me. The only one, except for the Good Conduct, I share with my father. John Collier is a coward and piece of shit. Born from larvae into a buzz fly to hover around true men and steal what they fought to earn. John Collier is a pussy and wouldn’t know the first thing about what it takes to EARN a CIB, rightfully. Kim Kardashian doesn’t take in the mouth and ass as much as John Collier. John, when you’re hanging out in truck stop mens rooms and showing off your phoney awards so guys will let you blow them for free instead of your usual, pay them 5 bucks for a suck and swallow…take a look in mirror as you wipe the cum out of your two hole flavor saver and know, the whole world knows you are a dick sucking, ass hole licking TURD. Now GFY and then GFY again.
My apologies to the ladies in the room for my previous rant and language.
No issue here.
Geeze … And you are apologizing to ONLY the ladies!
You need to appear at the 70th UN General Assembly and apologize to all humanity.
Shit … Never mind!
Sparks…..I’m with you on the CIB. If your Army infantry, during our time the CIB was our crucible. (No insult intended to Marines for using the term) I like you cherish it. It pisses me off to no end when anyone wears it that did not earn it!
Man, there’s enough purty colors on that phony rack to gag a skittles-spewing rainbow unicorn. As Jonn says, “…he’s into colors, not shinies.”…
Couldn’t someone earn 2 CIB if they served in gulf war 1, in 1990 and todays gulf war conflicts?