So, who’s the Census Bureau work for?

| August 17, 2007

According to this bit of performance art from the Associated Press (by way of Fox News), the Census Bureau is worried that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Bureau might actually enforce the law;

The Census Bureau wants immigration agents to suspend enforcement raids during the 2010 census so the government can better count illegal immigrants.

Raids during the population count would make an already distrustful group even less likely to cooperate with government workers who are supposed to include them, the Census Bureau’s second-ranking official said in an Associated Press interview.

Deputy Director Preston Jay Waite said immigration enforcement officials did not conduct raids for several months before and after the 2000 census. But today’s political climate is even more volatile on the issue of illegal immigration.

Enforcement agents “have a job to do,” Waite said. “They may not be able to give us as much of a break” in 2010.

So? The more illegal aliens they catch, the fewer you have to count, goofball. And maybe the illegal immigrants are mistrustful of the government because they’re in violation of our laws.

I might remind you that there was a criminal in the White House in 2000 – someone who didn’t give much thought to enforcing the law as much as he thought about writing new laws he wouldn’t enforce. The only illegal aliens he was worried about were 7 year-old Cuban boys.

Every ten years I get a threatening letter from the Census Bureau that they can prosecute me for not filling out their form (which is a lie by the way) yet they want other agencies to suspend law enforcement activities for them? Dumbasses.

In related news, Herndon, Virginia voted to keep their Day Labor center open and to fire the previous operators who don’t understand that they work for their employers and should do what their employers tell them to do;

The vote ended the uncertainty over whether Project Hope and Harmony, the faith-based nonprofit that runs the site, will be allowed to continue in that role permanently.

“It will be a big disappointment for us and the workers” when Hope and Harmony leaves, said Bill Threlkeld, director of the group, which is affiliated with Reston Interfaith. The group will consider remaining until a new manager is found but will continue its practice of not checking immigration status.

Council member William B. Tirrell Sr. said “the rule of law” took priority over workers’ needs. “The law is the law is the law,” he said. “We can’t decide by whimsy what laws you’re going to enforce.”

How hard is it to check whether someone should be allowed to work in the US before helping them locate work? Jeez.

And of course the “immigration advocates” are convoluted when discussing their position;

Immigration advocates said immigrants who are legally able to work in the U.S. are only a small fraction of the undocumented immigrants in the country.

“I think the Town Council has basically positioned themselves with some options still open,” day-labor center operator Bill Threlkeld said. “We’re not particularly happy with some of the conditions that we were fighting to have in place.”

Um, Bill you’re not an “immigration advocate”, you’re an accessory to a felony. And, ya know the “big duh” here is that only a small fraction of illegal immigrants have permission to work – that’s kinda the point of the whole thing.

The city of Herndon voted Wednesday night to keep the day-labor center in the city open but made it a rule to check workers’ identification before allowing them to work.

Workers won’t necessarily need a driver’s license, but they will have to be able to prove they can legally work in the U.S.

Immigration advocates said that defeats the purpose of a day-labor center.

Again, kinda the whole point. Facilitating a criminal act is a criminal act. Working without permission to work is not legal. Do I need to get my crayons out to explain it to ya? From the Examiner;

The new council has been trying all year to secure a new operator for the site who would check the immigration status of the workers there, a move that would dramatically alter the nature of the center and likely thrust many of the workers back out into the community.

Or, they could thrust themselves back home and focus on making their hometowns prosperous and stop the brain drain from Latin America.

Category: Illegal Immigrants, Legal, Society

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Dawn

If you had to go to hell for being ignorant and uninformed, you’d be leading the lemmings. Let’s deal in facts:

The Census Bureau is not a prosecuting agency, it is a statistical agency. Their goal is to gather and return to the public quality information about the nation?s population and its economy and that includes receiving a response from every household in the census or ACS sample. Census data are important, and more than $300 billion are distributed back to state and local governments every year based on your (and others) survey responses. Responding to this mandatory survey is a way you can have a positive impact on your community. If a fine is applied for not responding to a mandatory survey, it would is at the discretion of the Department of Justice and is from $100 to a maximum of $5,000.

Jonn Lilyea wrote: I don’t take kindly to being called names on my own website. However, I will take the time to give you a history lesson – ignorant lemming that I am. The Census Bureau was established to apportion seats in Congress not as a way to fleece the citizens and redistribute wealth. But of course, that’s lost on you social engineering government employees, isn’t it?

Honestly, I get hopping mad everytime I see one of those idiot commercials your agency runs runs on TV telling us how important it is to fill out our Census form so our community can get their greasy fingers on federal largesse. Playing to the greed of the citizenry must be very satisfying for you and your bloated bureaucratic buddies.

Dawn

Where does the fleecing (by the Census Bureau) occur? How is the wealth being redistributed? You’re losing me fast here. My agency? Wrong again. I’m not a social engineering government employee. Greed? Time for a reality lesson. Government officials aren’t the only ones who use census data. People from many walks of life use census data to advocate for causes, research markets, target advertising, locate pools of skilled workers, prevent diseases, even rescue disaster victims. When Hurricanes Andrew hit, for example, census information aids the rescue effort by providing relief workers with estimates of the number of people missing in each block, as well as detailed maps of whole neighborhoods that had been obliterated. Senior citizen groups often draw on statistics from the census to support their desire for community centers. The census can show that the number of elderly residents near a proposed center are plentiful and increasing. When county commissioners digest this supporting data, they often cannot argue with the clear evidence that a new senior citizen center is needed. As businesses try to determine if the market for a new product is large enough or if the product will be accessible to consumers, one source of vital statistics is the census. It shows, on a local, regional or national basis, how many men, women and children live in a specific area, breaking out the data by age and ethnic origin, sex and race, home owners versus renters. Census numbers help businesses reduce their financial risk and broaden their markets. Nonprofit organizations often use census numbers to estimate the number of potential volunteers in communities across the nation. Developers analyze census data before deciding where to locate a new shopping mall. Male/female distribution will be considered by a dating service before deciding to advertise in an area, and income levels, by an expensive clothing store before investing in a new outlet. Census statistics help determine where to build more roads (add lanes, install stoplights or lower speed limits, too) and hospitals (or free health clinics) and child-care centers. They also help identify which communities need more federal help… Read more »

Dawn

1. I do contract work for the Census Bureau. 2. All the Census Bureau does is count the people. That is mandated in your (and mine) constitution. 3. It is up to other agencies to use the numbers in their own manner. 4. The Census Bureau is concerned with the WHAT, not the WHY 5. I actually agree with you on many points 6. It is Congress who decides what questions are asked in the Census. You can find the reasons for the census, how it is administered and what questions are asked and who decides that in U.S. Code, TITLE 13–CENSUS, CHAPTER 5–CENSUSES,SUBCHAPTER II–POPULATION, HOUSING, AND UNEMPLOYMENT, Sec. 141. Population and other census information Here’s a link http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=browse_usc&docid=Cite:+13USC141 I too have faith in the American people. I also have faith in the government. Is it flawed, yes. And I take exception to you’re saying I have a vested interest in fraud, waste and abuse.Call me stupid if you want. But, I devoted more than 20 years of my life serving my country in the military. And yes, I did swear to protect and defend the constitution we both seem to hold dear to our hearts. It’s not only the government that uses Census Bureau data. Businesses and industries use census data to analyse markets for their goods andservices, plan their need for employees, or select new retail or manufacturing sites.The health care industry uses census data to forecast health care needs and costs, and select sites for hospitals, seniors homes, and clinics.The laboursector. The census measures the number, location and skills of workers and provides information on their age, education, income, sex, marital status and ethnic origin. Much use can be made of this information including helping planners decide what employment or training programs to develop. Social service agencies use census data to assess many social needs such as day-care or subsidized housing.The education sector uses information on level of schooling achieved for planning postsecondary and adult education programs. School boards use population figures by age group and ethnic origin to project school enrolments or to plan special programs.… Read more »