Continuation Boards – Coming Again to a Navy Near You!
It appears as if the US Navy – like the Army – is about to engage in some “force shaping” efforts. The Navy has announced that almost 8000 Chiefs (E7/8/9) will have their records screened for continuation in service, starting on 27 October 2014.
The board will consider both active duty and reserve personnel. Acitve duty personnel who had 19 years of service as of 28 February 2014, and who had 3 years time in grade as of 30 June, will be considered. On the reserve side, only those with 20 “good” (qualifying) years for reserve retirement will be considered.
The Navy held similar boards in FY2010-FY2013. There was no board this year (FY2014). But unlike previous years, no career fields will be exempted from consideration.
No quota for eliminations was set. Rather, based on the recommendations of Navy senior enlisted advisers the board will operate on a “pure quality cut” basis instead – whatever that means.
Hey, at least they’re not forcing folks to retire earlier than 20. Still – for some, it looks like it will soon be, “Bless Our Home It’s Christmas Almost”.
Category: Defense cuts, Military issues, Navy, Reserve Issues
Bend Over Here It Comes Again
Almost like what happened to me in the late 90’s. They just said if you didn’t make E-8 by 22, you’re out. So after no selection on year 21, I knew my days were numbered.
I wonder how long the “no quota” thing is going to last?
Just wondering also, What in the number of CPOs who fall in that category?
The precept for such boards is quite clear, but I will sum it up like this:
1. DUI
2. Wife Beaters
3. Deadbeats
4. Low performers
5. Failure to qulaify
6. Drugs
7. Decrease in Performance Average
8. Dirt bags
9. Idiots
10. Morons
Bye Bye
Very low percentage, however every record is reviewed!
I sat 4 E-8/E-9 Boards as a voting memeber …. the Navy conducts solid boards!
Mixed emotions on this.
I have seen it in the Army. There are some turds that are just chilling and avoiding deployments, promotions, responsibility, leadership and just plain work in general.
And as you have pointed out, criminals and bad role models as well.
On the flip side, unfortunately many good senior NCO’s will get caught in the “fishnet” (Like my Navy-Maritime term?).
They will because of their age, injuries that prevent performance, family issues and adhering to the “right” standard.
A shame but unfortunately the DoD is changing. For better or worse.
A DUI is higher on the list than drugs? Or am I looking at this inverted?
I’m okay with this. Sorry, Master Chief, but I know I saw more folks who got to where they were on their merits, only to fuck up royally and still have someone cover for them.
If they screwed the pooch, they need to go. And I know you and I can name some names in our respective communities who should have been shown the door long ago (cough **Dirty Dave** cough).
The Army just set a time in service year and purged beyond that date. They skimmed the good with the bad especially in MOS’s with very thin upper promotion slots.
Phony CPO Continuation Boards are not conducted at BUPERS Millington, they are conducted in places like TAH and other venues.
Roger that.
Amen!
I’m pretty sure I sat that board too. And yeah, not selected for advancement.
If you are just riding it out, collecting a check, time to move on and let some youngster with fire in their belly have a chance. Service is still a privilege. We are talking about Senior NCO’s, if you are not fired up and motivated after 20, move along.
Hondo, don’t forget the Air Force is in the Force Shaping party too. My hard-copy retirement orders(involuntary) dropped yesterday.
Understood, AverageNCO. Just haven’t seen an appropriate story on that yet.
Yeah, they ran stories at the beginning of the year that the boards were coming. But they ran ZERO stories when people actually got the pink slips. Instead, that same week they ran a bunch of press releases on how they are going to improve the enlisted evaluation/promotion process. Just a bunch of smoke and mirrors.
Here you go Hondo. This is the official Air Force spin on things. Basically just reduced us to crunching numbers.
http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/494334/aug-15-pulse-on-af-force-management.aspx
I remember in the Corps the twice passed over rule got rid of most the rubbish.
The two main problems I saw were the E-6s who got promoted to E-6 Who were in MOSs that were all but closed. They could be pretty shaky but as long as they werent so bad they couldnt reenlist they could slide by for 6-10 years.
The other shitbags were guys that went out of the MOS for years then came back as E-7s or E-6s.
We a SSgt E6 who had his former MOS vioded ( think it was MP) and he was sent to Arty to try to “save him”.He had went to the Marine Corps Boxing team as a LCPL and spent 7 years in Special Services, handing out towells.
He wasnt a dirtbag, just literally one of the dumbest people I met in my life.
Could be worse.
In conjunction with the “Continuation Boards” they could re-implement Project 100,000!!!
I actually had the ‘pleasure’ of serving with one of the last of that batch of morons. Somehow he made it to Gunny before he retired.
Interesting you should use the term “moron”, Stacy0311. One of the pejorative ways to refer to such Project 100,000 (at least in the Army) was to call them members of the “Moron Corps”.
While today pejorative, the term “moron” once had a clinical psychological definition. It applied to those in adulthood who had an IQ of between 50 and 71 – or those with IQs in roughly the bottom 2% of the population..
The criteria for Project 100,000 was “below 31st percentile”; typical ASVAB math scores were apparently between 10 and 15, and verbal scores were between 16 and 20 – or the equivalent of functioning at about the 5th grade level. It’s thus entirely possible that some of those inducted under McNamara’s Project 100,000 literally qualified as “morons” under the old clinical definition.