Mosul feels jihadist justice

| July 29, 2014

In the Stars & Stripes, the Associated Press reports that the soldiers of the Islamic State have begun destroying everything in Mosul, Iraq that the radicals consider apostasy to their particular sect.

Over the past two weeks, the extremists ruling Iraq’s second largest city have shrugged off previous restraint and embarked on a brutal campaign to purge Mosul of anything that challenges their radical interpretation of Islam. The militants — though Sunnis — target shrines revered by other Sunni Muslims because the sites are dedicated to popular religious figures. In the radicals’ eyes, that commits one of the worst violations of Islam: encouraging worship of others besides God.

I seem to remember in 2003 when the US took Baghdad from the Hussein regime, the news sources were chocked full of criticism of the Bush Administration when the Iraqi population looted their own museums. Historians and archeologists publicly wrung their hands about the objects of antiquity were lost and it was all the fault of the US military because they hadn’t moved quickly enough to secure the treasures. Well, entire antique mosques and cultural icons are being lost in the ancient city and it generates barely a shrug from the academic community.

Lets not forget that Christians in Mosul have been run out of town by the Islamic State, according to NBC News;

“[A] fighter said, ‘I have orders to kill you now’,” Yacub [a 70-year-old Christian from Mosul] said just hours after the Sunni extremists tried to force their way into his home at 11 a.m. on Monday. “All of the people in my neighborhood were Muslim. They came to help me —about 20 people — at the door in front of my house. They tried to convince ISIS not to kill me.”

The rebels spared Yacub but threw him out of the city where he had spent his entire life. They also took his Iraqi ID card before informing him that elderly women would be given his house.

[…]

Yacub, who struggles to walk, explained that he stayed in Mosul not because he wanted to, but due to his severe health problems. He eventually made his way to Qaraqosh, about 20 miles southeast of Mosul, finding refuge in the Christian city that is under the protection of Kurdish peshmerga troops.

From Voice of America;

[U.N. resident and humanitarian coordinator in Iraq Jacqueline] Badcock confirms that few Christians remain in Mosul. Most have fled the city following an edict by the militant group they either convert to Islam or pay a fine under pain of death.

She says only about 20 Christian families remain in Mosul, either because they are elderly or too ill to move. She says a few have converted to Islam. Others are paying a fine of about $400, which, she says is a significant sum of money in the area.

This can all be laid at the feet of the American Left all the way back to the three Democrat Congressmen who stood on the roof of Hussein’s palace and declared that Saddam Hussein was more trustworthy than our on President. It can go all the way back to the “human shields” who went to Iraq and were placed to protect Hussein’s military assets. It all gave confidence to the al Qaeda jihadists that they would only have to wait us out in order to win. The same Leftists gave Congress to the Democrats in 2007, the same Congress that wished for more the deaths of more American troops. The same Congress that called the “surge” a failure before it began, and spent two years trying to defund the Iraq War. The same Democrats who had supported “their guy” when he called for a regime change in Iraq a few years prior, but couldn’t stand behind a president who didn’t belong to their little club long enough to win a war.

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Pinto Nag

Excellent post, Jonn. Right on target.

Sparks

+100! Thank you Jonn.

rb325th

Impotence as a form of Diplomacy, AKA Leading from behind.

Hondo

AKA “Ben Dover” diplomacy.

Roger in Republic

When you look at the two light weights that Obama has named Sec State, you have to see that in terms of foreign policy. Barack Obama is the very lightest of light weights. Perhaps it’s his cumbahya world wiew. Or the fact that he can’t see the evil in the world because his religious and political training won’t allow him see evil in “His” people. All his enemies are white Non-progressive rednecks from flyover country. Barack Obama is a dilettante with no talent for leadership or hard work.

Rerun0369

Iraq really needs to unleash it’s Peshmerga units out of Baghdad if they want to have a snowballs chance in hell of driving IS out of Iraq. Or go begging on their hands and knees to the Kurds to bail them out.

MikeD
Rerun0369

Yes, I know. I am talking about the Cobra units operating out of Baghdad as well as the Kurdish Battalions now considered part of the ING. Sorry for the confusion, should have clarified a little better.

Green Thumb

The KRG is the only thing working over there.

As Obummer attends more fundraisers.

I just want to puke.

Ex-PH2

These slimeballs blew up a tomb that was said to be the tombe of Jonah the Prophet. This is the same mentality that destroyed the tomb in Mali that held the remains of 100 Islamic saints, the Gate at the End of the World.

I’m just waiting for one of these demented things to sneak into Jerusalem and try to destroy the Dome of the Rock. Think it can’t be done? Think again. Someone will try.

I have serious doubts now that any of them are actually human.

Ex-PH2

Here’s a CNN link to that story. The explosion includes the mosque built over the tomb.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/24/world/iraq-violence/index.html

Twist

I know that mosque pretty well. The backyards shot at me from it’s tower.

Twist

Bastards, stupid autocorrect.

Roger in Republic

“Auto correct has become my worst Enima”

Ex-PH2

Did I say an attack on the Dome of the Rock? Ouch! That was before I saw this ‘twitterbit’ on Breaking News.

Rocket sirens heard in Jerusalem area – @DanWilliams, @DannyNis

I wonder what really is next.

CC Senor

ISIS is just taking a page from Tally-bahn playbook.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/mar/03/afghanistan.lukeharding

Hussar

Should have left Saddam in charge.

Some of us were saying this in the run up insanity to the invasion of Iraq.

rb325th

Disagree, but maybe we should have remained in Iraq and hammered out a Status of Forces agreement instead of going with the strategy of withdrawl at any cost.

Hussar

Let’s suspend reality and ignore that we shouldn’t have been there in the first place….

The US did not (and doesn’t) have the fortitude to deal with that type of enemy, in the part of the world. Clearly.

Saddam did.

FatCircles0311

Suspending reality is what you did by ignoring the 10 years of Shit Turd violating the terms of his unconditional surrender in which he routinely shot at our military. The only insanity that occurred is not finishing the job the first time because we let a bunch of limp wrist peacenik’s successfully advocate that bad guys shouldn’t be treated as such during a war.

I’ll never understand why the left loves mass murdering scum so much.

Hussar

We had zero problem using Saddam against radical Islam by combatting Iran. Saddam wasn’t Muslim, and had a long history of killing violent jihadists.

He was very good at it. Much better than we’re turning out to be.

FatCircles0311

So because a defense dog bit an intruder, but then goes on to maul kids we just let it slide endlessly because how dare America ever do anything against something in which it may have supported previously.

Saddam didn’t bring stability to the region at all. He routinely violated all sorts of resolutions after his 1st defeat and was building up again to do what? Help register Democrat voters by enticing them with yellow cake uranium cupcakes?

Hussar

And the US did bring stability? Ha!

Saddam provided for a much safer, and more stable Iraq, and the current string of events more than proves that.

And how exactly was Saddam building up? He didn’t control the majority of Iraq’s airspace, much less have any capacity to “build up” as you put it.

Oh so he made the Israelis nervous and he attempted to take back the oil the Kuwaitis were stealing from him. Boo hoo.

Worth the blood and treasure we lost?

Nope.

SGT(P) E

Nonsense. We beat the enemy, we won the war. That happened in three weeks. Then we decided to try and fix the place back up, POST-victory. That was arduous, dangerous, and while largely successful, ultimately abandoned short of the finish line (by a few decades, in my view, but we can quibble on that).

I agree that we often don’t have the stomach for the POST-victory rebuilding anymore – but we HAD to take out Saddam. The sanctions were crumbling, he was dead-set on building nukes and other banned weapons, and he was about to get out of his box. We slammed the box shut, destroyed all his evil ambitions, and dominated him in the field. The only thing we couldn’t do was prevent the country he’d savaged for decades from self-immolating.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

If the country reverts back to a giant steaming shit hole where jihadists train then the nation won nothing, regardless of how successful military operations were during the first three weeks.

Winning all the battles does not equate to winning the war or the conflict, removing a dangerous, unstable regime to replace it with another dangerous, unstable regime is an exercise in repetitive stupidity.

The question becomes then, did we want regime destruction or regime change? There is a rather large difference in the application of force and the length of occupation for those choices. We still have troops in Germany and Japan because we destroyed their ability to make war and defend themselves.

By not declaring war against Iraq we were merely interlopers attacking a dictator but not the nation? What is that? If we are deciding that getting troops killed is the only recourse I would prefer it that the government have an actual long term plan and long term goal in order that the process need occur only once instead of having to repeat it every 10-20 years with the same outcome.

Hussar

We didn’t win anything. All we did was remove the Baathists, and make it possible for radical Islam to take control.

Ex-PH2

France is offering asylum to the Iraqi Christians.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28521778

FatCircles0311

I’m sure that’s gonna be a hit with the Muslim gaggle already running out all of the Jews there.

ConcernedCitizen

Huh. I know I can Google this myself, but are there any major articles that stood out to you that I can use as a talking point?

ConcernedCitizen

Thankee.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

If they can’t hold their own nation, maybe they don’t deserve to have a nation. Losing your nation means losing your precious landmarks as well.

Is anyone suggesting we go back and fight this again? If so until when? How long will the occupation be this time? 20 years? 70 years? What will make the outcome different if we do go back? The current administration is no more capable of long range planning than the last one was….I wish I could muster up some actual empathy, but I’m just full up with I don’t give a fuck.

Ex-PH2

Answers:
1 – No
2/3/4 – None of the above
5 – Part A: Take off, nuke the entire region from orbit, hit the Med coast of Africa in Algiers, Libya. and whack Nigeria good and hard. Surgical nuke strikes on Gaza strip north to south, but warn the Egyptians first, and make Libya’s oil wells unusable for a VERY VERY long time.
Part B – Let the Kurds have their autonomy and Iraq’s oil wells. And release oil cargo on the ship off the coast of Galveston to the commodities market. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/29/us-usa-iraq-kurdishoil-idUSKBN0FY23K20140729?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=76

But see, that’s all politically incorrect because we’re supposed to be nice and understanding, and just get along with each other.

We’ve gone soft in this country, and we are going to pay for it if we don’t snap out of it.

2/17 Air Cav

To the extent that the Christians are able to escape and the Muslims are left to eat their own and destroy their won history, I’m good with the situation.

2/17 Air Cav

Sometimes, a typo–in this case a transposed letter–creates another word. That was to have been “own history” not “won history.”

Ex-PH2

Freudian slip, maybe, 2/17 AirCav? That might be more prescient than you think. I would not be one bit surprised if they start to turn on each other some time soon.

MSGRetired

Mosul has a very large Christian population. I spent a year in Mosul 2006/2007. Camp Marez had one of the Oldest Christian Monastery Ruins in the world. Hopefully it is not destroyed. I have some pictures if anyone might be interested. I’ll get a link to Jonn when I find them.

Pinto Nag

I would definitely be interested in those pictures.

And if the lunatics haven’t gotten to it yet, they will. Just give them time.

MSGRetired

The link was added to my comment here is the link again in case anyone misses it. There are 4 short Video’s that explain a little and a bunch of pictures.

http://s1161.photobucket.com/user/racer38/library/Military/Camp%20Marez%20Mosul%20Iraq%202006-2007

Twist

If they leveled Al Kindi I wouldn’t shed any tears. I spent way too much time there.

MSGRetired

We stopped in at Al Kindi every now and then to use the ranges..

Ex-PH2

If there is anything at all left of history in the Middle East when this is all over with, I will be absolutely surprised. These inhuman thugs are doing everything they can to destroy real history in the name of their radicalism. May they effing rot in their own rotting skin if ebola ever hits that area. And it might.