When seconds count….

| June 19, 2014

ROS sends us a link to Tampa Bay’s 10 News which tells the story of John Breau of New Port Ritchie where he faced down a couple of home invaders while the 9-1-1 operators played “transfer this call” as Breau’s wife was pistol-whipped in front of him. Apparently, only some of the Pasco County 911 operators are qualified to take police calls, while others can only take fire calls. If you’re unlucky and get the wrong type of operator well, you have to be transferred to the properly qualified operator;

Each time the dispatcher tried to transfer the emergency call to a qualified person a prerecorded message came up saying “If this is an emergency hang up and call 911. Thanks for calling the Pasco County Sheriff’s office non-emergency number.”

And that prerecorded message about calling 911 came up not once, but twice when the dispatcher who is not qualified in law enforcement in this building was sitting right next to the law enforcement qualified dispatcher but couldn’t transfer the call.

“It felt like I was on a customer service call to be honest,” Breau says.

So, just shoot, for Pete’s sake.

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68W58

So, he had a shotgun while this was going on, but tried to negotiate the 911 system instead? Well, at a certain level you can’t blame him-what with the whims of prosecutors to consider. But yeah, I probably would have shot (depending on whether or not I could isolate the target).

CommonSense

Actually, if you click through to the article, then from there to the original article, you’ll find that he woke up to them beating him and when they started on his wife, he got his gun and started shooting. They shot back, threatening the baby. One of them got shot in the back as his prize. The 3 are brothers and are known thugs.

So not bad, considering it was 3 on 1 and they had the surprise advantage.

As a wife, I can say that no one is EVER going to be pistol whipping me or pointing a gun at any of my kids (they are adults now), I will blow his balls off first, let him feel it for a bit, then finish him off. There will be no whiny statements to the police from the thug and no future spawn.

Joe Williams

Rifle,pistol or shotgun to keep your options open. Any one of the two may be used in combo with the pistol. Big Brother , No firearms here. Move on now Joe

GDContractor

Even after all this, the article states that Deputies were dispatched to the wrong address.

Yeah Bateman, I’m convinced. I would turn in my guns (if I had any) and let you fucking idiots the system take care of me and my loved ones. Now I know that facing armed criminals in my home with a phone in my hand while my wife gets pistol whipped is better (and safer!) than simply shooting them, even if the fucking idiots public servants drop my 911 call twice and send help to the wrong address. You have convinced me, and I thank you. Hurry home (via Malaysia).

cannoncocker

I will preface this by saying the little spiel about how I have the utmost respect for law enforcement in general. Which I do. But in reality, the local police exist only to file a report after the fact. They are the ones that can make it all nice and neat and legit with all that fancy paperwork that they do. That’s really what they are good for in a home invasion situation.

jonp

If we are unable to have a uniformed police officer in every school to stop school shootings how would anybody think they are safe in their own homes and police can protect them? It is up to you, folks but then again everyone on this blog knows that.

Sparks

Had I had my weapon in hand, there would have been no pistol whipping. None. There would however have been a dead intruder. Promise that. I’d rather my wife be safe and I alive to ask forgiveness or face prosecution, than see my wife pistol whipped. Pistol whipped, indicates the intruder was armed.

The Other Whitey

As previously described on an earlier thread, SOP in my house is for me to aggressively engage the threat with my 1911 while my wife gets her shotgun, retreats to our daughter’s room, and calls 911. (Master)Bateman can blow me.

Speaking of (Master)Bateman and that kukhri he’s so proud of (which I doubt he has the skill to use effectively), there’s an old saying where I come from: He who lives by the sword gets shot.

On the topic of the dicked-up dispatching, I have some limited experience in this field. My county in SoCal has worked out a pretty good system with LE and Fire having separate dispatch centers. 911 calls from a cell phone go first to CHP, who kick it over to the Sheriff’s Office in 30 seconds or less (landline call skips CHP and goes straight to SO). CHP and SO dispatchers are all LE side. If its a Fire/EMS call, they in turn kick it to our dispatch within 2 minutes or less. Inside the city limits, it goes to municipal PD instead of SO.

Our system works pretty well over all, one of the best in the nation. And guess what? You’re still looking at FIVE MINUTES before a cop is even on his way to your incident!!! Add that to time en route, and response time is 10-15 minutes AT BEST.

Regardless of the bullshit PR program from the top, ask any street cop. They all say shoot first, then call 911.

Green Thumb

I bet you my dollar against your dime that All-Points Logistics has that particular contract.

All jokes aside, this is a serious problem.

David

this morning’s Houston chronicle mentions that the clearance rate for burglaries is something like 17%, so effectively they don’t know who the perps are and can’t do anything about them IF the cops ever even bother to investigate. That tells me that essentially the Burglary section exists solely to create verification reports for your insurance company.