NY Times: Bergdahl Was in Unit Known for Its Troubles
The New York Times decides that the best way that they can save young Buck Sergeant Bergdahl (and so, the the Obama Administration) from the barbs that are coming his way from his unit is to criticize the unit.
The platoon was, an American military official would assert years later, “raggedy.”
On their tiny, remote base, in a restive sector of eastern Afghanistan at an increasingly violent time of the war, they were known to wear bandannas and cutoff T-shirts. Their crude observation post was inadequately secured, a military review later found. Their first platoon leader, and then their first platoon sergeant, were replaced relatively early in the deployment because of problems.
But the unit — Second Platoon, Blackfoot Company in the First Battalion, 501st Regiment — might well have remained indistinguishable from scores of other Army platoons in Afghanistan had it not been for one salient fact: This was the team from which Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl disappeared on June 30, 2009.
Oh, my goodness, they wore bandanas and cutoff T-shirts!!! I’ll bet they all had tattoos, too. I saw a number of platoon sergeants get relieved when they couldn’t make the transition from garrison duty and training to combat. So, that’s not new either. In fact, the platoon that I took over to take to Desert Storm had their platoon sergeant relieved right before I arrived. But, no one from my platoon deserted and went over to the Iraqis. In fact, if they’re going to use cut-off T-shirts and changes in leadership in the platoon for Bergdahl wandering off to the enemy camp, why didn’t more from the platoon follow him?
Further down the story, the Times blames President Bush, without saying his name;
At the time Sergeant Bergdahl disappeared, the platoon was straddling a moment of changing American military strategy and intensifying Taliban violence. The United States had fewer than 60,000 troops in the country at the time, with units like Blackfoot Company stretched across some of Afghanistan’s most dangerous and unforgiving terrain.
Luckily, along came President Obama who had the strategic expertise to change the conditions that drove Bergdahl over to the enemy;
By the end of 2009, Mr. Obama would acknowledge the shortcomings of the strategy and call for a “surge” in American forces that, by 2011, would number about 100,000.
Yeah, it was closer to 90,000, but I should probably remind the Times that Obama had to be dragged kicked and screaming into accepting the evaluation of the generals and the CIA and then, failed to fully staff the surge strategy that those generals and analysts said were required to win in Afghanistan. Evidenced by the fact that it took them over a year to move 30,000 into the battle. Less of a surge and more of a dribble.
But, there you go, expect more criticism of the troops who didn’t slip out of their base in the middle of the night, than the one who did. My exit question for the New York Times would be; Why didn’t the whole platoon desert if conditions were so bad that Bergdahl went over the hill? Or was Bergdahl the smartest one of the group, in your estimation?
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Guess they’ve decided to run with Beaker’s line of attack, i.e. the platoon of psychopaths.
Assholes.
Yeah, my fellow Spartans in the 501st were “so chewed up” that they were awarded the VUA. These people are so FOS their eyes are brown!
http://www.usarak.army.mil/main/Stories_Archives/Mar_11-15_2013/130312_FS1.asp
Excerpt:
“The 1st Battalion (Airborne), 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division received recognition with a Valorous Unit Award to honor its service for a 12-month deployment which began in February, 2009 in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in the Paktika province of Afghanistan.
The VUA is the 2nd highest unit decoration that can be bestowed upon an U.S. Army unit, and it is awarded to units which display extraordinary heroism in action against an armed enemy of the United States.
During the deployment, the 1-501st was named Task Force 1 Geronimo, and it was assigned to Regional Command East as part of the International Security Assistance Force. Its mission was to conduct counter-insurgency operations while supervising governance, development, and agriculture projects in coordination with Afghanistan’s government.”
Maybe they were wearing cut off T-shirts because it was 125 degrees outside. On a small COP, it certainly wasn’t unheard of. I hate, HATE that people who were 8,000 miles away in a climate controlled office are writing articles like this. F these people.
Amen.
I dunno about you guys but sleeveless tee’s in my old unit was a sign that we were low on TP, not high psychos.
on psychos
*VOMIT*
Tee shirts and bandannas! How dare they!!! the next thing you know the will have out of regs mustaches and sleeve tattoos!!!.
Seriously I never thought I woud see a “free press” defend a politici since the days of Kim Jung Il and Der Fuerher.
If the article is to be believed, the ‘problem’ with the bandannas and t-shirts was that (military) commanders were angered and embarrassed — it didn’t read to me like the NYT is judging that. From the article:
“Their platoon commander, who some described as less than inspiring, was relieved weeks into the deployment, replaced by the platoon’s sergeant first class, who was popular and respected by the troops. Then, a few months later, the sergeant found himself in trouble after pictures appeared online showing some in the platoon wearing bandannas and cutoff T-shirts. Such garb was not uncommon at remote combat outposts, but it angered and embarrassed commanders, and it helped lead to the sergeant’s dismissal soon after Sergeant Bergdahl disappeared.”
If that’s true -if!- then most of the vitriol here should be directed at clueless command elements, not the NYT. Plenty of criticism exists for the NYT already, but they don’t seem to be making a judgement on the use of bandannas.
Fucking civilians. Can’t even keep their terminology straight. It’s “Platoon Leader” in the Army. It’s Platoon Commander in the Marine Corps, if I’m not mistaken. Also, they should have referred to the NCO in question as the Platoon Sergeant (his title), not referred to him by his rank. Granted it’s nitpicking, but I am not cutting those fucksticks at the New York Slimes any breaks. Them and the whole editorial board can go fuck themselves with pineapples sideways.
And as far as directing vitriol towards the NYT, they are reporting rumor, innuendo, and opinion as fact in order to provide cover to this administration. They deserve everything that is coming down on them.
Obama, Kim NDTBF, and der Fuhrer are all leaders of Cults of Personality. In order to remain in the club you have to cover for the dear, great, omnipotent, infallible, leader. To do otherwise is to be labeled “One of Them” and called a racist. Or worse. You will never again be invited to the right parties, and in the case of the press you will lose access to the President so you can no longer toss him softball questions so as to prove your syncopathy.
Desert Storm” “Inside the wire”, dew rags. tank tops, shorts and flip flops. My were troubled.
I like the part where they blame the unit for letting Bergdahl get away: “might have made it too easy for him to walk away.”
Hey, douchebags, it was a combat outpost, not a Federal prison. The security measures were oriented outward, to defend against insurgent attack, not inward to prevent soldiers from escaping. It probably never occurred to the leadership that they would have to prevent soldiers from walking away, because what kind of a fucking moron would walk away from an outpost in the middle of Taliban country? (Unless he was actually planning to defect to the Taliban, that is…)
The NYT isn’t even worthy of being used as shit paper anymore.
↑↑↑↑↑ I would hope that the NYT would read that, and correct their bullshit. Never mind, won’t happen. Nicely done, Hayabusa.
True.
No sentries seeing him leave seems like piss poor post standing or poor force protection planning. I couldn’t imagine any Marine being able to just up and walk off any firm base I was on without being noticed and challenged especially with no gear on. Furthermore entry and exist points are in communication with higher to coordinate who comes and goes. We just didn’t have people enter/exist without notice.
I worked on many COPs and OPs where it was possible to simply walk off. Drove right out of the gate at Speicher one time with only my rifle and some magazines.
What were your reading preferences at the time? I’d bet skin Mags. What?
They also discussed that, whereas the entire platoon knew what the security situation was, the patrols, etc.
If I had wanted to, I could’ve very easily walked off either of the FOBs I worked on in Afghanistan. (One Company sized FOB and one Battalion sized)
From what is being reported, I’m thinking Bergdhal was planning this for a while and knew the 5Ws for getting off the FOB without being noticed.
Ya know what? Fuck the NYT. They may have had bandanas and they may have cut the sleeves off their t-shirts, but they didn’t go over the hill like Bergdahl. They did their fucking jobs with honor and integrity. So the NYT can kiss my beer drinking ass!
It’s a wonder that my entire company didn’t desert in Iraq back in 2009-10. Our CO actually let us wear civilian attire inside the company area (but to be honest, “civilian attire” usually consisted of shorts and PX moto t-shirts)
Some were know to shit outside and the really crazy ones used to shit in a plastic bag. Others while not on watch were know to masterbate to pictures of naked women.
Troops beating off during their spare time when deployed? OH, NOOOOOO, perish the thought! /SARC
The number of fleshlights sold to guys in my unit…. LOL.
Plenty of “happy pocket pals” and “Happy socks” as well?
Hey, Porn is illegal in Afghanistan. It doesn’t matter if you buy it from the Afghans who are supposed to be offended by it.
How does the NYT ignore Restrepo and all the numerous other film and pictures of the US Army being nasty during the war on terror?
Every picture I see of that guy in country he looks like a douchebag. I’m surprised they haven’t come out already and just blamed his fellow squad mates for not accepting his quirky charm and unique perspective.
The water bucket brigade is getting desperate.
THE NEW YORK TIMES, it’s B. Hussein 0bama’s favorite propaganda outlet!
NYT = Pravda
Yeah, I shoulda said NYT = OBAMAPRAVDA. Gotta wait on that, the same would also apply to most of the mainstream mess media!!
And what would make the NYT experts on ANYTHING to do with the military? Particularly in a combat zone? They need to quit flappin’ their yap concerning things about which they know nothing, and go back to doting on the FLOTUS’ lunch program, or somthing.
I guess the New York Times is setting themselves up to be the pudgy, short-legged sergeant major of the news media. Next they’ll be complaining that the SEALs who made the exchange for Bergdahl weren’t wearing reflective PT belts and needed a shave. “Who missed that cigarette butt by the RPG gunner?!?”
Jonn “Who missed that cigarette butt by the RPG gunner?!?” ROTFLMAO. Thank you sir I needed that today. Yea how ’bout it Taliban? Who polices up your AOs? Any of you rag headed, goat screwing, boy lovers, ever pull cigarette butt police up duty as punishment for having your gig line out of whack?
Jonn- want Schmitt’s email posted here? Maybe can get some true, factual attention focused that way.
If dew rags and cut off t-shirts were the morale problems which caused Bergdahl to cut and run, then over half my platoon in Vietnam should have been running to the North before nightfall, the first day I arrived. First thing I thought when the heat and humidity hit me was, when can I get naked as soon as possible? Though “that” scenario wasn’t possible, we did improvise to make it as tolerable as we could. Dew rags, sweat bands, cut off t-shirts and improvised clothing to accommodate unbearable climates goes back to WWII and probably way, way before. The NYT hasn’t had a clue about the truth in decades. They are and have been a liberal supporting, ass wipe for as long as I can remember. I have no doubt they take this kind of shit they print directly from inside White House sources. You know, “you wash my ass and we’ll throw you all the bones we can”. You’ll be sure to always get the “scoop”.
Sparks, when I got to Vietnam in 1965, our supply pipelines through Cam Ranh Bay still weren’t providing crucial items like clothing. We had guys in our company whose garrison type fatigues had rotted to rags.
In my first couple of months in country, we had guys going on patrol in their skivvies. Finally when the supply lines got straightened out, Uncle buried us in the new jungle fatigues, O.D. T-shirts, shorts, socks, etc. much of which went into the black market.
Cut off t-shirt sleeves are instant/tactical toilet paper just like that rag The Washington Post. And it does a half ass job at that just like its reporting.
IMO
Sapper3307…Well said.
Thanks Sparks
I thought about having a Giduck reference but its just implied on TAH.
The entire military and most of the public think that this dude is a turd.
But the Administration and a handful of others do not.
The administration has lost touch with reality.
They’re liberals, thus they never really were in touch with reality. Would that make liberalism more of a form of schizophrenia?
The technical term is “loony tunes.” 😉
They know he is a turd too. I jut doesn’t fit with their narrative of the brave decisive leader who values a single turd above five steaming piles of Muslim shit. I still maintain that this is not about one deserter, but rather closing GitMo so he can win another Nobel Prize or some such silliness. I mean his first official act on day two of his presidency was to issue his Executive Order closing GitMo. Six years later he is getting desperate to get that done.
Just when I thought the Times couldn’t get any more dumb they give us this. Fuck these two Pajama Boy pussies that wrote this diarrhea. They obviously haven’t spent a nanosecond on a small combat outpost. Its very common to look raggedy ass. Their argument, like their dear leader, is petty and lacking intellectual substance.
Yep.
While a young marine grunt in the post desert storm 90’s our company commander would often tell us that all we wanted to do was run around with captured AK’s dew rags and cigarettes…yeah…Hoooh ra sir! Its friggen hot and there is no water…as long as their weapons are clean and their comms up…they’re fine. These officials don’t venture far from the comfort of the VIP quarters on Eggers or Bagram.
I sure hope no one higher up looks at pictures from WW2, Korea or Vietnam. If they do, we might have to retroactively NJP the lot of them.
Where do I turn myself in? I often wore a t-shirt while performing maintenance on the CIWS mounts. And that was while the ship was moored at NOB Norfolk. While we were steaming around the Gulf? Practically every day!
Bill Mauldin’s son said that Eisenhauer hated his father because he showed Willie and Joe as they actually looked. I doubt if Ike ever got any mud on his Pinks ans Greens. Or on his boots either.
I think you may be mistaken. I read a book on Bill Mauldin way back in the day, and it was General Patton that hard a serious hard on for the creator if Willie And Joe. One part of the book discussed the younger Mauldin flying a helicopter while serving in Vietnam. He picked up some Army officers in an LZ. Looking at his passengers, he saw one with the name tape Patton. And Patton Jr saw his name tape. They both laughed, and then took flight.
So first the NYT tries to say that do-rags and cut-off Tshirts are somehow indicative of discipline and morale problems. A normal, sane, intelligent person, even without military experience, would instead find it indicative of guys living under primitive conditions in a hot and nasty environment without easy access to air conditioning, showers, flushing toilets (or any at all), or running water of any kind. In other words, none of the basic amenities the bleeding-heart bootlicking pussies at NYT would probably die without.
I would direct their attention to pictures available on the Internet of 12th Air Force ground crews (including my great-uncle) wrenching on B-17s in Algeria in the summer of 1943. Boots, chonies, and a towel or GI Tshirt tied around their heads to keep the sun off was the uniform of the day. Why? Because they were on an airstrip in the middle of the Sahara fucking Desert, and it was hotter than two rats fucking inside a wool sock. Or another picture, same timeframe, of a Navy gunner aboard a PBY in the Solomon Islands. Dude is stripped bare-ass naked except for his headset, throat mic, dog tags, and Mae West PFD and is visibly sweating his balls off as he mans his .50-cal. Why? Because it’s Africa-hot, South Pacific-humid, and they aren’t flying high enough to get above the heat. Hell, look at pictures taken in December of 1950, of Marines who have tied tarps, towels, rugs, whatever around themselves to avoid freezing to death around Chosin Reservoir. Or troops in Vietnam wearing no shirt under their flak jackets. Or–hell, I could do this all day.
Then, of course, they say that this “problem” company would resemble any other in Afghanistan. Nice subtle insult at the entire Army! Are they sure this article wasn’t written for the fucking Fashion Page?
The sad part is that somebody, somewhere still buys this glorified asswipe.
“In other words, none of the basic amenities the bleeding-heart bootlicking pussies at NYT would probably die without.”
SWEET BABY JESUS WRAPPED IN C4 AND DET CORD, those candyassed, snot-spined Sparkle Pony Swamp Donkey unicorn-fucking, glitter-farting tinsel mice would shit themselves and implode after five minutes without their A/C, smart phones, iPads, internet, and mp3’s, and some super-metrosexual Starbuck’s coffee, sommething like a pumpkin-eggnog latte with organic cream and sugar, organic whipped cream, sparkles, and stirred with an Altar Boy’s penis!!
Nuh uhh! Not true! They spent three days hiking in the Cascades once. They know what it’s like to TRULY suffer! (SARC)
This statement contradicts the theme of the story. The writer says his platoon “might well have remained indistinguishable from scores of other Army platoons in Afghanistan” meaning all the other platoons in the theater were dressing the same way.
I think that was their half-ass attempt to insult the entire Army. Yet another reason why the tovarischii–er, I mean fine folks at Pravda–damn it, New York Times can gag themselves on a giant bag of chlamydia-dripping dicks.
Scary part is how many civilians that do not know anything about the military will just accept this BS as fact. Shameful. They (reporters) would do well to try integrity as a personal goal.
Vietnam war protester, where are you? You have to have an opinion that is more enlighted that any of us “troubled” vets/military personnel/ supporters/etc. (Sarc.)
Obviously, these dickweeds have never watched “South Pacific” or any other R&H epic movie.
To make it easier…
http://www.rnh.com/bio/167/Rodgers-%26-Hammerstein
From Murphy’s Law on War
No combat ready unit has ever passed inspection.
No inspection ready unit has ever passed combat.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2652186/Bowe-Bergdahls-platoon-group-raggedy-misfits-wore-bandanas-cutoff-t-shirts-duty-POW-abandoned-post.html
The deserter with one of the raggedy soldiers. Give me a break. And, yes…I know it’s the Daily Mail, but I’m 99% sure the photo isn’t a fake.