Gay troops perform at air base fundraiser
OK, I’ve avoided this story for a few days, probably because I’m a homophobe, they’ll say, but my inbox has been filling up with tips about it, so I guess you want to discuss it. According to Stars & Stripes, at Kadena Air Base on Okinawa, gay troops stationed there, sponsored by OutServe, put on a drag show for a fundraiser;
Amid the unexpected success, OutServe carefully avoided any mention of politics, but its variety show comes at a pivotal time for gay civil rights in the United States, with many states passing laws dealing with marriage or debating individual liberties.
It is also a sign of the times within the military; just a few years ago, gay and lesbian drag performances on a military base would have been unthinkable and potentially a cause for dismissal from the service.
The repeals of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, as well as the Defense of Marriage Act — the law barring the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages — have allowed gays and lesbians in the military to be open with their sexuality for the first time.
Yay! Isn’t that wonderful? I remember the good old days when OutServe and their cohorts at the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network told us that they wanted to repeal the Clinton-era Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy so that servicemembers who were gay could serve, that it was all about some imagined “right to serve” in the military. There was no larger agenda, just simply service.
I only made it about ten seconds through this video, so I don’t blame you if you don’t either.
Category: Military issues
Finally something Wickre can get down with
Yeah.
Wow. Just wow.
Special rights, anyone?
I wonder who showed up.
I’m just glad that attendance at such a show isn’t mandatory…yet.
yet………..
yet….
clock is ticking….
FABULOUS!
By the way … These events will be shut down … Someone or something will cross the line.
Well, some time back in 2013, Los Angeles AFB had a drag show celebrating the diversity of the LGBT community, while over at an AFB in England they were getting their panties in a bunch over a comedian that did a routine that referenced some adult/sexual content. Somehow, there must be some logic in drag shows = good; male comedian gigs = bad.
Surprised the Air Force was doing this first and not the Navy.
I am still serving and surprisingly, I have not been to a base where this is allowed. I would love to see the reaction though of some of the SNCOs (old school types), we had some old world guys around who openly spoke their mind about something like this.
There will be some people on here or else where who will drop disclaimers that they are not homophobes, etc. But lets face it, anyone from the old school military is going to have a problem with this.
Welcome to the new world (unfortunately)
I guess your branch is less ghey than the others?
Nothing to do with less gay. More understanding though, yes Navy figured was than Air Force.
And thats navy being more understanding than some of he knuckleheads in the Air Force. Ran into many ignorant upper tier SNCO who were either ignorant hotheads who were one dimensional.
the only drag shows i remember involved cars. (:
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It’s charming that you believe that members of a preferred group have lines that can be crossed.
There IS no line anymore. Oh wait…I seem to remember something about tattoos…
The line is a dot!
There must be helluva a lot of gays at Kadena and Yokota for this to go down. Judging from the likes and dislikes. Not too many military folks were happy with this.
Okinawa and Yokota? They are on two different islands.
Although… honestly… it wouldn’t surprise me if this prompts EVERY base to be subjected to something like this.
Might bad, I was thinking Misawa and Yokota being on the same island.
Heck, Missy and Yokota might as well be on different islands they’re so far apart! I felt like I was living in the Japan of a hundred years ago when I was stationed at Misawa. Loved it, but it was the boonies.
Misawa was were I was the coldest I’ve ever been in my life. That is a big statement since we were there doing a joint training exercise with the JGSDF and we went there from Alaska.
What. The. Hell. Is. The. Military. Coming. To. !!!
Not the military I served in I am glad to say and it is NOT better now because we have become all touchy feely for queers, lesbians, cross dressers and their whole ilk.
Am I homophobic…meaning in fear of homos…no. Do I like or agree with them and their lifestyle…NO.
This is a shame in my book. Just a simple damned shame.
10 seconds is 10 seconds longer than I made it. The still shot was more than enough, thanks. And what is wrong with being a homophobe?
Amen and Amen 2/17 Air Cav.
I personally don’t like the handle homophobic only because it has been so overly used by the gay community to shout down and silence anyone who differs with their agendas. Sadly most Americans buy into that BS and shut up and sit down and forgo their opinions. I am personally not any more afraid of them than anyone else, so it doesn’t actually apply to me. Even if I disagree with all they stand for. If they want to lay the label on me for disagreeing with them…then fuck ’em. If one approaches me overtly in the men’s room though…then it’s his bad luck and his bad day.
2/17AirCav, when you look at something and your mind instinctively responds with ‘no’ or ‘gross’, it isn’t a phobia.
Fear of heights is a phobia, acrophobia.
A disgust with a tasteless show of exhibitionism is not a phobia. It just means you were raised right.
Well Sparks, you are technically correct regarding phobias. They are irrational fears. However, homophobia is used by gays as an accusation and a pejorative term meant to denigrate those of us who are repulsed by the sexual deviants who prefer their own gender for sexual satisfaction. So, embrace the homophobe–unless he is of the same gender. If so, just shake his hand.
2/17 Air Cav I think we are on the same wavelength here. Just different outlooks. I do agree with all you wrote though.
You are right in many things there Air Cav. If it comes to a name and the only one they want to offer me is Homophobic, then great and so be it. I will forgo the embrace and depending on how they look…maybe even the handshake. You never know where those things have been.
I’ll wear the title of “homophobe” as proudly as I wear the title of “racist” the moment any PC puke attaches it to me! I couldn’t care less if someone is gay, ii have issues with it when they wave up in my face and tell me I HAVE TO accept it with open arms.
I with everyone else. I don’t care what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom, but I’ll be damned if I want to think about it. My face is scrunching up in disgust thinking about that stuff. Blecch! You know, kind of like how gays react when they think about heterosexual sex.
Am I the only one that noticed the box for the Shop Vac that was in the background as the did the backstage interviews. If I was homophobic, I would make a politically incorrect joke about homosexuals and a Shop Vac. By the way, we had a Shop Vac in my shop in Okinawa. For some reason, it was called The Love Machine. I never knew why.
I am not homophobic. I don’t give a crap about someone else’s sex life.
But I am thoroughly tired of this ‘give me preferential treatment’ bullshit being shoved down my throat, whether I like it or not. These people don’t like being stereotyped or categorized, but they sure as hell do it to anyone in their sight.
I fail to understand their desperate necessity to tell everyone within hearing ‘Hi, I’m queer and I’m here,’ mostly because I don’t give a damn.
Pretty much what my Senior/Superintendent just said when we talked about this. Well the things is about most gays is they fought for same sex marriage and now they complain about paying divorce fees. When they get something, they often want more than just what they are given. Benefits thing was another ballbuster fest.
I can only imagine what is gonna lead with these little shows.
When it leads to every gheyboy and lesbian inquiring into your sex life, which is none of their business, and stereotyping you if you don’t discuss it publicly, then it has gone too far.
All of this is just plain vulgar exhibitionism. Forcing it on people who are not gay/lesbo/tranny/whatever should not be allowed, but my guess it that it will be jammed right down the throats of the straight community in the form of forced attendance.
I am not a homophobe, heterophobe or traniphobe … I just don’t give a flying frig. I want people to keep it in their pants and skirts and just do their job.
This open display shit has gone way too far.
Our mission readiness and effectiveness will be impacted!
Mark my words.
Our readiness and effectiveness is already being impacted by the gutting of the military by Obumbles.
As for the drag queens………yeah; who didn’t see this coming? We were told it wasn’t, but they (the ones that told us it wasn’t) knew that it was; so did they intentionally lie to us? Is that all the left is made up of, liars? Colored me shocked.
Here is what we were told Old Trooper, nothing would change, gay troops would just not be prosecuted under the UCMJ any more. They would get no preferential treatment. That was the big lie. No preferential treatment. The funny thing is, most of us who sat in that brief knew we were being lied to and there was not a damn thing we could do about it other than quit our jobs.
You are absolutely correct Master Chief. And it will be covered up until it is too late.
It’s been awhile since I was in, but I seem to remember something about certain displays and actions and “good order” How can something like this not cause disorder among the ranks? And what are our foes saying about this sort of thing? In the past many wouldn’t start shit with America because they feared our military. Do you think that still applies when service members are prancing across a stage in drag acting stereotypically queer?
Great, more “hopey-changey diversity” CRAP that we don’t need. THANKS, 0BAMITES, now GFY sideways with a six foot long frozen garfish.
In two more years I’ll be shown the door when I turn 60. I’ve not been looking forward to it, but now it can’t come soon enough.
Yeah, we hear so many saying “we just want basic legal rights, we just want to live our lives like anyone else”…and I think they’d find a much more sympathetic reception if they just stuck to that. But, that reception gets undermined by the freak show. If you want to eliminate the phobia, eliminate the frightening crap.
I am certainly not homophobic, but could we go back to the days where we had etiquette and manners and didn’t display sexual peccadilloes and other private matters in public? They all want religion kept private at home, how about this too?
And since when does the culture of the 3% dictate culture to the other 97% who aren’t LGBT?
Can regulate what t-shirts are worn and require a belt for liberty, but drag shows have no limits are 100% legit and a right!
What a clown show.
I’m in a really relaxed Army Reserve unit that seems to have no visible standards, but a Soldier got chewed out yesterday for wearing a tan undershirt shirt with writing on it. The writing was “US Army,” it was a shirt he had bought at the PX at basic training, and all it said on it was “US Army.”
Maybe if it had sequins and a bra screen printed on it, it would have been okay.
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Uh, what, Lost?
Flipping a table
So the same Air Force that took down a nativity scene this past Christmas and conducts Health and Comfort inspections to seize pron and other “offensive” materials has no problem with a drag show…. Oh for sh*t’s sake…!
Also the same one that gave uneven punishments for Airman having threesomes in Germany. Ranging from discharge to slap on the wrist.
Does this mean we can bring the strippers back to the E-club?
God, I hope so!
Peso shows!
Peso shows, a friendly game of smiles, capped off by midet throwing from the roof of a three story building across an ally and into a small pool on the roof of a two story building.
Beggars Banquet – PI, 1980’s.
Only if they are transgendered or doing it as a fund raiser for an organization similar to OutServe.
My younger soldiers still don’t believe me about beer machines in the barracks and stripers in the E-club at Friday lunch.
My niece and her husband who’s stationed over there, went to this show. She posted some pictures of it since we were all curious about how it well it was received I guess is the word.
Back in the day. When a straight guy in the military dress up as chick … It was probably for an initiation, such as Shellback or similar. Now if a straight guy dressed up in drag … A non-straight (LGBTEIEIO) can levy some kind of BS complaint of harrassment, bias, discrimination, blah, blah, blah.
And what do straight people get to do if they’re harrassed about sex by these jerks?
I’m betting they’ll most likely get to experience having their complaints ignored, Ex-PH2.
Is this an Air Force base?
If so, it explains a lot.
Does the military routinely open base facilities for fund raisers for non-profit political advocate organizations?
Most states use their NG armories for youth basketball but I wasn’t aware of the post 9/11 policy regarding this type of facility use on an active military facility as I separated in 1983….I recall sporting events between on base units receiving a great deal of attention such as soccer or basketball games at Ft Benning or basketball at Ft Drum….I don’t recall too many song and dance events, but I probably would not have been looking for them or attending them.
It seems inappropriate use of the facility to me, but if other non-military groups can use the site for fund raising purposes I guess this would be equal treatment, if however other groups can not use the facility for the purpose of raising money for their political action group then this is reprehensible.
that show was as wrong as two boys fucking….there, it had to be said….Goddamn, I retired just in time….
Right now I’m sitting at 91 days left in the Army before I retire. It can’t come fast enough.
Ha you all must have never been down Bragg Blvd!
‘…allowed gays and lesbians in the military to be open with their sexuality for the first time’.
Yes, but just what is it that makes it so very necessary for them to jam it in your face ALL THE TIME?
Anyone have an answer to that?
Pah-lease,
As if…..
This was approved but a CO and a CMDMC in the Navy were relieved because their Saliors were fund raising in a Strip club. No double standard at all.
That’s called ‘denial’.
Strip clubs are essentially off limits: Human Traffic and Sexual Exploitation Issue!
This can be articulated very easily in required training.
I would not step into a strip club if it was the only place in town with cold beer!
I wonder how the heterophobes felt when acts like the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, Playboy playmates and the likes came around on USO shows ?