Big Army; Beware those religious extremist Catholics
The above picture is supposedly a slide on religious fanaticism in a presentation to Reservists in Pennsylvania. For some reason, Evangelicals and Catholics make the list mixed in with the Muslim Brotherhood, the KKK, the Nation of Islam and Hamas. Yeah, because I can’t count the times that I’ve read about Catholics suicide bombers.
It’s been decades since I walked into a church on a Sunday, but that doesn’t mean that I think that there are Christian extremists on par with al Qaeda (also on the list). I mean, they even have the Hutarees on the list. The Hutarees were (I said “were” because they’ve been disbanded) clowns looking for a college. But their presence on the list leads me to believe that the Southern Poverty Law Center is behind the class.
Yep! We’re ALL kulaks now.
They didn’t put Reformed Druids on that list? I demand a recount!
And where exactly are all those training camps for teaching Catholics to become killing machines?
You can’t make this stuff up. But, Potoc and his SPLC crew certainly do and with no repercussions from it. *spit*
I guess the Rosary Beads that I carry everywhere I go could be considered as dangerous as nunchucks.
What a load of BS. (I’ll seek forgiveness for my terrible thoughts today 🙂
But LIRight, if built right, rosary beads COULD be as dangerous, err, awesome as nun chucks.
The most frightening person in the world is a nun with a metal ruler who is angry with you. I know this firsthand.
Alcon-
Is this slide brief presented by a rep from DEOMI? (Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute)
If it is, I’m going to press my reps to have this school either altered or abolished. I graduated from there back in ’94, and I recall some briefs that were a bit ‘odd’ even back then. They are the only entity that could develop this line of thinking…
The Army says that the trainer’s material was not approved and she (the trainer) says she just lifted the stuff from the internet for the Army Reserve Equal Opportunity class she was giving. One of the attendees took offense at the inclusion of the Catholic/Christians on the PP slide and sent a hardcopy of the PP slide to the chaplaincy. The rest, as they say, is history. The Army backed away and the slide was deleted. Meanwhile, the SPLC says it gave nothing to the Army and its website does include lists of certain Catholic/Christian groups that it considers hate groups.
EO management institute? that seems a bit odd, can’t explain why
Todd Starnes from Fox News reported:
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/army-labeled-evangelicals-as-religious-extremism.html
@5 – You’re mistaken, there my friend. The rosary is supposed to be used as a garrot. When you’re done, then you use it to ask for forgiveness.
SAEDA brief at Ft. Carson circa ’09 was a canned “death by powerpoint” that predated 9/11 (nothing about Al Qaida, and a lot about Tim McVeigh and white supremacists) A few months ago, (now as a reservist)
Got the TARP briefing (renamed SAEDA) and and found it pretty much the same slightly updated with the interesting caveat that FHTX was on the “workplace violence” slide not “terrorism” slide
In grammar school we used to give the sisters (they are sisters not nuns) “hell” about the 5th commandment: “Thou shalt not kill.” Many of our fathers were military and we would ask if our fathers were going to hell for killing. We kids used to get a good laugh at that one! No rulers (EVER), but in high school, a diminutive sister grabbed a big classmate of mine(>230lbs) and yanked him out of his chair and sent him to the principal’s office. He ended up in the Navy! Real radical stuff.
The list is taken directly from the SPLC. The officer who gave the course faces discipline in some form or another. although given DoD’s anti-Christian policies of the past couple of decades I can’t see why; but, the SPLC’s Potok sticks by the list as accurate.
For the SPLC and the people who contribute to it, there is nothing worse than a Christian.
@7 – my parents had dozens of stories of nuns in the schools they attended. Discipline was NOT a problem. Something schools today could learn from.
@14 – sister and nun terms are used interchangeably in modern society although there is a technical difference:
“As regards their juridical condition, we distinguish (a) nuns properly so-called, having solemn vows with papal enclosure, whose homes are monasteries; (b) nuns belonging to the old approved orders with solemn vows, but taking only simple vows by special dispensation of the Holy See; (c) sisters with simple vows dependent on the Holy See; (d) sisters under diocesan government. The house of sisters under simple vows, and the congregations themselves are canonically called conservatoria. These do not always fulfil all the essential conditions of the religious state. Those which do are more correctly called religious congregations than the others, which are called piae congregationes, piae societates (pious congregations or pious societies.) Nuns of the Latin Church only are considered here.”
My cousin is the president of Sisters of Loretto and she is a nun. Their focus is helping the desperately poor, the elderly, and the disabled.
They do tend to be politically on the left, but in a more traditional way than the Marxist flavor we’re seeing in Obama’s Democratic Party.
Well, I don’t know about this Sister vs. Nun stuff. We called them one or the other without distinction and I never knew a nun or sister who was offended by either. I had the merciless Sisters of Mercy throughout grade school. When I wasn’t getting whacked, they were great. I thought many of them were tough–until I had my first Dominican for Algebra. She had the look that could stop on oncoming freight train on a dime.
The only extreme catholics I think they can be talking about are Basque nationalist in spain. There are some basque in the US mainly in places like Boise, ID or pacific region. But beyond that, those are the only ones I seen do bombings.
#12 USMCE8Ret………..lol, will definitely keep that in mind. (seems like I’ve asking for a lot of forgiveness in recent years….according to my wife, that is)
Christian Identity aren’t Christian extremists, they are white supremacists.
Actually now that I think about there are probably no actual Basque National groups in the US. When I was stationed in Idaho I do recall Christian groups and KKK groups being posted up as extremist groups.
Yeah, on SPLC’s hate Map last year, I had Neo-Nazis on either side of me, but they’re not on the map anymore. I guess those two guys died or moved.
Looks like Neo Nazi groups are dying out west and midwest on the Hate maps. They probably merged with some other small time group.
The guy did “Internet research” and was not an expert. Southern Poverty Law Center was probably one reference that showed up on Wikipedia. Wikipedia research bites the left in the ass, again.
As Jonn and I have previously discussed, the SPLC has had undue influence on DEOMI in the past. Not sure how it is now, but the connections have been a bit to ‘congruent’ for my comfort.
EO training does things like Command Climate surveys as well. As the Div EO, at times I felt so damn out of place. Its a USAF career field, but Army addional duty below Div. One of the weirdest slots I’ve ever held. But the training was actually damn good.
SPLC are poverty pimps and opportunists of the first order. Most of the groups they list are just loser criminals who happen to be white and spout prison racist garbage. Several of the groups only had 3 people to began with and haven’t been active in 10 years.
Maybe they’re referring to the Catholics in say, Africa, that have suicide and carbombed mosques during muslim holy days, OH, WAIT, it IS the other way around, isn’t it? I wonder how much PC crap from outfits like CAIR infect that so-called “training”?
@13, Cajun, The TARP briefs aren’t even supposed to have or make mention of the Fort Hood shootings by MAJ Hasan in any way, shape or form. Apparently because it’s still ongoing.
@22. Well, people are known by the company they keep. I guess the neo-nazis didn’t like your company, Jonn. You were hurting their reputation.