That’s why it’s called “training”
In the Huffington Post, Gay “Rights” Groups (whatever that means) complain the soldiers and Marines aren’t taking seriously their training in preparation for the repeal of the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy;
Gay and lesbian service members say that some of the sessions have been punctuated by joking, snickering and eye-rolling by trainers and trainees.
So people who are currently serving illegally are complaining that the training to prepare the military for their ability to serve legally isn’t professional enough? That’s why it’s called “training”, you big cry babies. No one takes an algebra class when they know all about algebra. Maybe we should have sensitivity classes for people who are serving in the military while they’re gay, so they can learn to be more tolerant of straight people during this transition.
It certainly sounds like they need it more than anyone else involved.
In the taped session that Servicemembers United, a gay advocacy group, provided to HuffPost, a gruff gunnery sergeant states that most of the Marine Corps is against allowing gays to serve openly. But, like it or not, he says, the repeal is a lawful order and Marines follow orders. He then predicts a media circus the first time a Marine charges he or she has been assaulted because of his or her sexual orientation. He warns the group in a tone that suggests he doesn’t altogether approve that the days of ribbing others as “fags” are over.
Oh, so now we get to judge people’s intentions based on their “tone” as it’s perceived by the aggrieved? Then it’s all over. The gays are never going to be happy…be prepared for the perpetual bitching.
TSO tells me he ran into Dan Choi at the airport the other day. I hope I never get put in that position.
Category: Military issues
Want to know why so few people are taking it seriously?
Dan Choi. Poster-child for the DADT repeal. The fact that when the “floodgates” are opened, there might be an initial few who enlist, followed by them trying just as quickly to get the hell out when the “discipline” they wanted isn’t quite what they were expecting.
Sorry boys, the days of, “Rum, sodomy, and the lash,” are long over.
The “seriousness” with which we accept training is directly proportional to the harm a lack of training might cause. Soldiers involved in cordon and search missions take the rehearsals very seriously. The same thing goes for battle drills, CLS, and MOS proficiency. We tend to roll our eyes when we have to sit through the sexual harassment class, or the EO class, or the SIEDA class, or the rest of the litany of mandatory annual classes that have no intrinsic value in keeping soldiers alive but take away training for productive classes.
This is only the beginning. The gay lobby will bitch and complain for years about every little thing seen or perceived. There really isn’t getting around it, if you have based your political existence on grievance, you must have grievance to survive. If no grievance can be found, then make some.
In regards to the training, let me summarize the Army’s take, “Shut the Fuck Up!” That’s pretty much it. Don’t like the repeal, STFU, don’t like gays, STFU, got questions about how this is all going to work, STFU. That’s really all I got from the training so far.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Bobo is the winnah!
Frankly, I was a bit more concerned with how to combat fire, flooding, or a reactor casualty on a boat in the middle of nowhere than the concern some people THOUGHT I should display over being sensitive to someone’s desire to smoke pole.
Dear Ghey Lobby,
Here’s the deal–if your boy (or girl) can keep their cockholsters shut long enough for me to save their lives or for them to save mine, all is good. Otherwise, if they’re more concerned with the Doc bringing along enough Ecstasy and KY Jelly for “Club Night” underway, GTFO.
IOW, what was fucking wrong with DADT, exactly?
All I could think of after reading the first line was “boo-friggin’hoo!” GTFO it.
In a place where your tone can get you 14/14, I think your tone does actually matter. It’s one thing for trainees to be joking, another thing for trainers. Nobody knows algebra when they first take a class, but I sure hope they do when they teach it!
Good thing gays don’t have this stereotype of being drama queens or anything. Here’s the deal…anyone who has sat in any sort of training class knows that there is a significant desire to make the time bearable. For instance, we had to endure FEMA classes related to disaster recovery. When asked to provide the trainer with a scenario we could use as a “table top exercise”, I suggested zombie apocalypse. Little FEMA trainer girl wasn’t amused, but it was the most engaged the whole room had been for the entire 6 flippin’ hours as we went through the whole process of isolating the infected zombies and prepped gear to relocate to a remote facility. She eventually had to stop us and went with “flu pandemic”.
Oh, sure the zombie epoch is always funny until you have to shoot your best friend in the head to save humanity.
The only thing I’m reading is that Jonn said “put in that position” in the same paragraph as Dan Choi, and I’m amused.
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But with anything new you know that the first classes will be rough because there is no previous examples. If anything I would say that the instructors are learning just as much as the students. Because in our class a few questions came up were the instructor did not have a answer for it.
Also with this class it is more of finding out what the changes are so we know what is coming. One thing will be how will duty assignments be handled if a couple’s marriage is not recognized by the military and one is ordered to another base? Or if that couple adopts kids. Who would recive custody of the kid(s)? Plus with Officers making these classes there is the issue that might not happen in the enlisted world. Just to put a few reasons out there that there are not true subject experts out there at this time right now.
“Maybe we should have sensitivity classes for people who are serving in the military while they’re gay, so they can learn to be more tolerant of straight people during this transition.” – Jonn Lilyea
No sh*t, that’s actually the best idea I’ve heard for our military in a long, long time.