Schumer: Of course the military is at fault for shooting in Tucson

| January 16, 2011

Yeah, they couldn’t blame the military for Jared Loughner’s training, or for his mental instability that led to his episode in Tucson last week, but Chuckie Schumer found a way to blame the military for something else;

Noting that the alleged shooter in the Tucson massacre had admitted to military recruiters that he had used drugs on several occasions, Schumer said he is proposing to the Justice Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that the military be required to notify federal officials about such admissions. The New York Democrat said such a process does not require new legislation.

A military official told Fox News last week that Loughner was rejected from enlisting in the Army in 2008 because he admitted he had used drugs.

I guess Schumer could find a way to make local police agencies report the times they catch people involved in drug abuse or people who appear to be unstable, or people who threaten other people on the phone, but I guess it’s just easier to blame recruiters. And I don’t suppose that folks will not tell recruiters about their own drug abuse or stop visiting recruiters all together.

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Thor

Let’s just throw the privacy act out the window…

Of course, they’ve already done that with the use of social security numbers on just about EVERYTHING…

Andy

So will this reporting apply to those who are granted waivers?

How will Equal Opportunity and the Diversity crowd handle this new source of data mining?

Considering the suggestion by Mr. Schumer, should a history of drug use exclude leaders from being able to vote for/order the use of military force?

Chuck Z

FFLs are required to obtain an ATF form 4473 for every firearm transaction they have. This form captures personal data about the purchaser, and that data is then used to preform a NICS (National Instant Criminal System) background check.

Question 11 – E on the current ATF Form 4473 is as follows:

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

Loughner lied on his form, the Gun broker (Sportman’s Warehouse) did due diligence through the NICS (National Instant Criminal System.)

Of course it’s the military’s fault for not informing every government agency that a repeated pothead was trying to enlist.

Anyone tested schumer’s pee lately?

Spade

One point, though, is that past drug use isn’t disqualifying. IIRC, the recruiter said he rejected him because they felt the drug use was recent and there was a lot of it.

If Schumer is talking about some guy who’d say, “Yeah, I tried pot a couple times a few years ago” that shouldn’t get your firearm’s rights pulled.

Hell, in some cases that won’t even prevent you from getting a security clearance

Dirty Al the Infidel

Would this also apply to anyone appling to be “Commander In Chief”?

ROS

Depends on their party affiliation.

dutch508

How about make the local police contact the Feds when they catch someone in this country ILLEGALLY!???

Old Trooper

So, Chucky Schumer wants the feds notified when someone admits to drug use or pops hot on a piss test? Does that include welfare recipients, artists that receive federal funding, or anyone else that recieves my tax money? How about all those little worker bees in government? Do they have to take a piss test? How about your own staff there, Chucky? If they pop hot; will they be fired? Cuz Lord knows that if they do drugs, they can’t be trusted to own a firearm or run the government.

Schumer is the scummiest of the scumbags in DC, so you know he’s bad.

Anonymous

The Democrats’ wet dream: Big Brother meets “Achtung! Your papers, please!”

Doc Bailey

I’m pretty sure that Marijuana use is not a disqualifier under “drug use” to get a gun. and if MJ is what drove him to his crazyness kinda makes you wonder why you’d want to legalize it doesn’t it?

Ben

There is so much Monday morning quarterbacking going on here, it’s unbelievable.

OldCavLt

Odd, isn’t it, that he would have the military report drug use… but wouldn’t dream of having schools, hospitals and/or police report illegal aliens.

DaveO

I’m no fan of Schumer’s, by a long… ways. Schumer’s worldview is that military officers are just police (paramilitary) officers with a restricted jurisdiction. It’s part and parcel of fighting terror by police means. So, a military recruiter/policeman in an Army uniform failed to detain, or provide information on a drug user.

Schumer within his universe can’t handle the distinction between an Army NCO and an BATF agent.

Chuck Z

Dave brings up a good point. Putting something found by a MEPS station into a criminal database would, in effect, violate posse commitatus, wouldn’t it?

Junior AG

I’m not the sharpest knife in the drwer, but day-um.
Uh, Chuckles Schumer, the military DOESN’T make the privacy act laws it follows, you clowns in D.C. do…

DaveO

#14: possibly. I’m no lawyer though. It will reinforce lying on the part of the recruiter and the prospect/recruit which will be only to the services’ detriment.

PintoNag

What needs to happen is this: The police and military and schools and churches need to stop being used as mental health professionals and drug counselors. That’s not — or shouldn’t be — their job. And none of them, not one, has a crystal ball that tells them when a wingnut they deal with is going to get violent.