A Tale of Two…

| January 20, 2026 | 69 Comments

 

It was the best of time, it was the worst of times. That’s the opener to “A Tale of Two Cities”, widely cited as one of the greatest opening lines in history, along with “Call me Ishmael!” and a few others.* We’re gonna tell a tale of two programs. Too short a column for two cities, I guess.

Let’s start with the good news. The Army is trying to replace its aging H-60 helicopters, primarily because when you look at the parameters of helicopter performance and the potential  of tilt-rotor units, the tiltrotor should win hands down – given that it works right, which with our current iteration of tilt-rotor V-22 Osprey: well, to be kind, there have been a few teething pains. Not sure how many columns here have talked about the Osprey crashes – given as many as there are and the mileage flown in them, the record is probably not s bad as it looks. But it is far from squeaky clean, too.

Bell, a Textron subsidiary, is developing the MV-75, which is based on its V-280 Valor tiltrotor, under the Army’s Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft (FLRAA) program. The service announced Bell had won the FLRAA competition in 2022, at which point the expectation was that the first examples would begin entering service in the mid-2030s.

Now, the MV-75 has yet to even fly – but the V-280 has been undergoing flight testing since 2017. According to Army Chief of Staff GEN. Randy George:

“We have a new tiltrotor aircraft, and it was supposed to be delivered in 2031-2032,” Gen. George told soldiers at Fort Drum. “And we said, ‘No, we need it very quickly.’ At the end of this year, we will actually have those flying and out in formations, in both Compo 1 [the active duty component] and Compo 2 [the Army National Guard], and in our SOF [Special Operations Forces] formations.”

The MV-75 promises a major boost in airmobile assault capability for the Army. The service expects the tiltrotors to offer roughly twice the range and speed of existing Black Hawks. Greater reach and being able to cover those distances faster would be particularly relevant in future operations in the Indo-Pacific region, where operating locations and objectives are likely be dispersed across large areas with limited options for making intermediate stops.

The record is not 100% clear, to be fair – the biggest issue is weight. As we keep adding capabilities, weight goes up. Per a report issued last summer:

“The preliminary design review also stated that the aircraft’s weight growth is putting certain planned mission capabilities, particularly regarding payload, at moderate risk,” the report says. “While the review noted that FLRAA has a plan to reduce approximately 270 pounds of weight, this falls short of the 2,000-pound reduction needed to reduce the payload risk from medium to low. Program officials stated that they are planning to conduct a system-level critical design review in late fiscal year 2025.”  TWZ

Sounds like the usual – by the time we design something to do what all the program contributors want it to do, instead of a paper airplane we get a 747.  Here’s hoping that the schedule improvements don’t ignore all the safety steps.

The Ford (below) and the Truman (above)

Moving along, the USS Gerald Ford (she of the problematic catapults and cranky elevators) seems to be having a few problems – it’s plumbing seems to be…well, crappy.

The Navy’s largest aircraft carrier, which heavily took part in the Jan. 3 airstrikes on Venezuela which led to the capture of Nicolas Maduro, keeps seeing its toilets break down. It’s an apparently ongoing problem that has plagued the ship for months, according to documents obtained by NPR.

The main issue is breakdowns with the ship’s Vacuum Collection, Holding and Transfer (or VCHT) system, which controls its toilets and sewage collection.

Or should we say the system sucks? Or – doesn’t?

The system is split across 10 independent zones and supports more than 600 toilets on the ship. According to Fleet Forces Command, the ship sees on average one maintenance call for the system per day, “typically resulting from improper materials being introduced into the system.”

AKA – T-shirts, clothing… but also:

System failures are often caused by calcium build ups that clog pipes. Some failures can, depending on their location in the ship, cause issues throughout the entire zone, another email obtained by NPR said. Acid flushes can clear and restore the system, but according to that 2020 GAO report, each flush costs the Navy $400,000. NPR found that the Ford’s pipes have gotten that treatment at least 10 times since 2023.  Task & Purpose

Four MILLION bucks in plumbing repairs.

Perhaps as long as we’re being literary, we should rename her? I’m thinking of John D. MacDonald’s name for Travis McGee’s boat:  The Busted Flush.

* Confession – I have always favored another opening line as my favorite, if anyone cares: “He was born with the gift of laughter, and a sense that the world was mad.”

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FuzeVT

I always thought that “Listen: Billy Pilgrim has become unstuck in time” was a great first line. Well, technically it’s the first line of chapter two, but that’s where the story begins.

FuzeVT

There’s always this. . .

Snoopy
MustangCPT

As I tell my wife at least once a week:
Snoopy is all of us

Random NCO: Who the fuck has a Snoopy comforter on his bunk?!

MustangCPT: I do.

Random NCO: Oh. It’s very nice, Sir.

MustangCPT: I agree. My daughter got it for me. Carry on, Sarn’t.

MustangCPT

By the way, that opening line about the dark and stormy night is from an actual novel, “Paul Clifford”, written by a gentleman by the name of Edward Bulwer-Lytton. That novel is an almost stereotypical example of bad writing, much like the poems of William “Topaz” McGonagall, which are almost as bad as Vogon poetry. 🤣

MustangCPT

Ah fuck it…I’m in that kind of a mood:

Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me, (with big yawning)
As plurdled gabbleblotchits,
On a lurgid bee,
That mordiously hath blurted out,
Its earted jurtles, grumbling
Into a rancid festering confectious organ squealer. [drowned out by moaning and screaming]
Now the jurpling slayjid agrocrustles,
Are slurping hagrilly up the axlegrurts,
And living glupules frart and stipulate,
Like jowling meated liverslime,
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me,
With crinkly bindlewurdles.
Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don’t!

Fyrfighter

I have no idea what i just read, but it still made more sense than most posts by Der Queef-issar

MustangCPT

That is a poem written by Vogon Jelts, a character in “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” by Douglas Adams. Jelts threatened to torture the main characters of the novel, Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent, with a reading of his poetry during their interrogation.

FuzeVT

Actually I quite liked it. I thought that some of the metaphysical imagery was really particularly effective. Oh… and er… interesting rhythmic devices too,which seemed to counterpoint the… er… er…counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor of the… er…… humanity of the…Vogonity, Ah yes, Vogonity (sorry) of the poet’s compassionate soul which contrives through the medium of the verse structure to sublimate this, transcend that, and come to terms with the fundamental dichotomies of the
other and one is left with a profound and
vivid insight into… into… er…Into whatever it was the poem was about!

MustangCPT

I’ve never actually heard someone try to positively review Vogon poetry. 🤣

MustangCPT

Wait… I think that’s Arthur from the book. I fucking forgot about that.

FuzeVT

Arthur and Ford, actually. I just blended their effusive – and desperate – praise.

MustangCPT

You just gave me an idea…

FuzeVT

I only wish I could like that many more times!!

Dennis - not chevy

Lewis Carroll did it better:

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

MustangCPT

Perhaps, but Douglas Adams was easier to read for me just because all of the books in the series were sarcastic and took shots at EVERYTHING. 🤣

Eggs

I’ve been a fan of this recently discontinued contest – https://www.bulwer-lytton.com/ .

Check the archive link.

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Toxic Deplorable B Woodman

At least the opening line isn’t “It was a dark and stormy night”

FuzeVT

Should have posted the above here, but saw it too late.

MustangCPT

See above. Glad to see I’m not the only one who knows the story behind the joke. 😂

Toxic Deplorable B Woodman

I’m glad that I have my DD214 woobie to keep me warm.
I’d hate to be a “test person” on one of those new tilt-a-whirl when something goes wrong (as inevitably it will).

Maybe the Navy needs to install a-butt-ments (see what I did there?) to the decks, with toilet seats, no plumbing, over the water, where the squids can just sit and shit, and it falls directly into the ocean.
Like what medieval castles had back-in-the-day.
Problem solved, plumbing fixed.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal

Secondary thoughts:
The ones who won’t like this simple system are the contractors who won’t make any money off of maintenance.
Why? There isn’t any! It’s just a hole over the side of the ship. What could be more simple?

Jeff

They could always go to the head of the aircraft carrier to do their business and let it hang out in the wind like on old masted sailing ships.

Dean

Sounds like our ships and aircraft are being built like the Russians.The lowest bidder. The way we are going we will be a third world country anyway.

SFC D

My favorite opening line:

“No shit, there I was…”

MMNC/SS *Retired*

I down voted only because you triggered a PTSD level memory of a particular E6 from my first boat. Still laughed but the down vote was from a place of Enlisted hate.

Hope you understand!

SFC D

Your problem is with him, not me. My apologies for the trigger.

MMNC/SS *Retired*

Lol true that. Thanks for the memories today though!

NHSparky

As opposed to the ending line, “…and THAT, boys and girls, is a Hong Kong no shitter!”

Dennis - not chevy

The difference between war stories and fairy tales: war stories begin, “No shit, I was there”, “This really happened”, “Ya ain’t gonna believe this”, etc; fairy tales begin, “Once upon a time”.

SFC D

TINS stories. They start with “This is no shit…”

Dennis - not chevy

TINS?

Dennis - not chevy

Never mind, Captain Obvious just went upside my head.

timactual

Don’t feel bad, I am well acquainted with the Captain.

MustangCPT

My stories begin with: I was out drinking one night and then…🍺🍺🍺🤣

Fyrfighter

No good story ever started with diet coke and a veggie burger..

MustangCPT

True dat.

NHSparky

Scars…like tattoos, but with better stories behind them.

Not a Lawyer

After having flown in the Osprey dozens of times I have to say it is superior to practically all helicopters in regards to speed, comfort and lift capability. The safety record is middle of the pack when compared to other military air craft.

the data shows the 10-year average mishap rate for MV-22s is 3.43 per 100,000 flight hours. For context, that places the Osprey’s mishap rate squarely in the middle of the other type/model/series aircraft currently flown by the U.S. Marine Corps. Examined another way, in the 17 years since the aircraft was first introduced into operational service in 2007, there have been 14 loss-of-aircraft mishaps across all three services and one international partner that operate the aircraft—or .82 mishaps per year while flying over 500,000 flight hours.

https://defense.info/multi-domain-dynamics/2024/03/putting-the-osprey-safety-record-in-perspective/

15 losses out of 400 built

Compare this to say the A10 which has roughly five times the crash rate and has killed more US service members than all other Air Forces in the world combined in the last 50 years but everyone wanted to keep it because “Brrrrrrrrrrrttttt”.

https://simpleflying.com/a-10-warthog-safety-record/

SFC D

I’ve had conflicted feelings about the Osprey for the very reasons you’ve stated. Documented accident rate is low, but it seems to be universally despised. I have no dog in this fight. I haven’t seen much about it from a flight crew perspective. I’m not disputing your facts, just real curious why it’s hated. My only experience with it is COB Speicher, they’d fly low and slow over our hooches on the way to D MAIN. Loudest fookin’ aircraft I’ve ever been under. Earth shaking. And there’s more to love about the A-10 than the Brrrrrrrrtttt, as awesome as that is. It’s loved because it works, does things the F-35 apparently can’t.

David

Reading the linked article, most A-10s lost were because they were damaged past the point if economical repair but still brought their pilots back. It also says the majority of the service casualties were friendly fire incidents, and that only 7 pilots were lost out of over 100 totalled aircraft. Given that CAS missions are inherently more likely to cause friendly fire, and CAS is its primary mission, seems within parameters.

Not a Lawyer

Not sure which part of the article you read that said 7. From the chart provided at the link, more than 40 pilots have lost their lives in A10 non-combat incidents. There have been 112 hull losses in non-combat mishaps. It is “unclear” how many were lost due to combat damage and yet returned to the airfield for successful landings.

There have only be seven planes “shot down” in combat, six of which were in Desert Storm.

It is tough old bird not designed to be fixed after being shot up. It is unclear how many were lost after being shot up though.

FuzeVT

Here’s the view from inside one on the BHR (RIP) – with a cute aircraft handler in view – so I survived. I will say that ride beat the heck out of the janky old Phrog I had been on. Phrogs hold a special place in most Marines hearts, but not a fast or comfortable one.

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FuzeVT

Here’s another shot I took, not the typical view.
More photos from that trip. https://flic.kr/s/aHsmUMiGeW

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SFC D

Had to use the Embigginator, but you’re right, the one on the right is cute

FuzeVT

Here you go. Don’t want you to strain your eyes. . .

You may be on a Navy ship at sea ensuring the safe operation of aircraft on a busy flight deck, but that doesn’t mean your eyes can’t be made up!

Yellow-Shirt
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timactual

Define “mishap”.

FuzeVT

A Mishap is defined as any unplanned event that results in personal injury or property damage. There are different reporting proceedures [sic] for Mishaps depending on where it happened and if you are a Civilian or Military.”

https://nps.edu/web/safety/reporting

I think it’s funny they misspelled “proceedures” on the Naval post-graduate School website. Perhaps they need to do some more “learing”.

FuzeVT

Maybe they are confused because the Naval Institute magazine is called “proceedings”.

“https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings”

SFC D

Its a pronunciation thing. Draw out the vowel. Kinda like when a drill sergeant uses the word “Behooooove”.

timactual

I have always wondered what would happen if airline “mishaps” were reported in passenger-hours instead of passenger-miles.

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Our shit, shit paper (toilet paper) urine, vomit and cigarette butts went over the side while steaming, while not steaming and while tied up at the pier. Simple system…

timactual

Glad you sailors had it so easy. My fond army memories include cleaning the barracks latrine toilets on Monday morning after the toilet paper runs out on Saturday.

Prior Service (Ret)

Methinks there is a straight line correlation between sailors eating too much, then crapping too much, and toilet failure. Perhaps the USN needs weight control programs.

Even if flushing less doesn’t fix the plumbing problem, maybe they won’t have to look at the sailor’s overweight crack as they work the plumbing. Gives a whole new meaning to the term crackerjacks! Said with affection as the son, grandson and brother of Navy men.

SFC D

There also needs to be a “straight line correlation” in the design of the waste pipes. First rule of sewage lines is “straight as possible, no 90’s, steep as possible”. Because the first rule plumbing is “shit flows downhill”.

Dennis - not chevy

2nd rule: Hot is on the left
3rd rule: Payday in on Friday

jeff LPH 3 63-66

you forgot the Hospital Corpsmen on the hanger bay shot line giving shots to the crew after being paid.

SFC D

4th rule: Don’t bite your nails.

MustangCPT

Facts. 🤣💩

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Are you suwer of that

MustangCPT

Steep as possible is incorrect. If you have too much fall, the liquids outrun the solids and you end up with clogs in the worst places. 1/8” per foot is what you’re aiming for. Just crack the bubble. Yes, I do remember what the Air Force taught me as a “Utilities Systems Apprentice”, aka a “Turd Herder.”🤣

SFC D

I got my baptism of “fire” as a maintenance man at a rocky mountain ski resort. You are correct on the steep part. Angle it just right and the turds just surf their way on down.

Graybeard

Just found this:

It-May-Have-Been
FuzeVT

Nice. Hadn’t seen that one.

Andy11M

“The Man in Black fled across the desert, and the Gunslinger followed ” is, for me, the greatest opening of any novel.

NHSparky

Haven’t the skimmer pukes ever heard of bug juice powder in the urinals and shitters?

That stuff would eat through anything and leave a nice shine behind.

timactual

“It was the best of time, it was the worst of times….”

One of my favorite literary passages. It goes well with another of my favorites, by Wordsworth(?);
“…Bliss it was in that dawn to be aliveBut to be young was very heaven….”
Both were about the French revolution, which I find interesting.