They didn’t sow dissension in the ranks?

| December 2, 2025 | 47 Comments

The Hill make the case for Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ), part of the “Seditious Six”, disrupting good order and discipline. Almost like this was the plan all along…

So after telling American service men and women that they didn’t have to follow illegal orders, Mark Kelly and the others were accused of seditious behavior. Was it? That’s the hard case to make, because they were just stating facts we all were taught in basic training and again every time we got refreshed on the LOAC. Well…The Hill nicely shows us that the natural consequence of planting the seeds of doubt is that the troops will start to question their orders. This was the plan.

Once the troops start questioning their orders, the media can report on how the troops are suddenly constantly concerned about receiving illegal orders. They will scream, “The Trump Administration is lawless!” See! The Seditious Six was right all along. Even if they never give a quantification to how many are concerned.

From The Hill,

Fears grow inside military over illegal orders after Hegseth authorized follow-up boat strike

There is an increasing apprehension among service members that they may be asked to carry out an illegal order, amid reports Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered troops to “kill everybody” in a boat strike in September.

The concerns, reflected in an uptick in calls to the Orders Project — which provides free legal advice to military personnel — come from the likes of staff officers involved in planning the strikes on supposed drug-carrying boats and those in charge of designating those on the vessels as a threat in order to carry out such attacks.

Even as a reported Justice Department classified memo from this summer preemptively argued that U.S. troops involved in the strikes would not be in legal jeopardy, service members appear far more concerned than usual that the U.S. military may be opening them up to legal harm, according to Frank Rosenblatt, president of the National Institute of Military Justice, which runs the Orders Project.

“They have questions, because this didn’t come up before. This was never an issue throughout both administrations of the global war on terror in Iraq or Afghanistan. No one ever came down and said, ‘You’re immunized for any potential crimes you commit,’” Rosenblatt told The Hill of the increase in calls to his organization. Established in 2020, he said such “activity was generally very low until three months ago.”

“I think most people knew they did their jobs faithfully and didn’t do things that are beyond the pale, like executing civilians, that they would be OK and wouldn’t be prosecuted. So now to have this immunity as part of the discussion really tends to chill people and make them ask, ‘What the heck’s going on? What is it that I might be asked to do?’” he added.

Service members’ uncertainty over whether they will be asked to carry out an illegal order or pressured to go against their training is likely to be exacerbated after The Washington Post and CNN late last week reported that Hegseth authorized a highly unusual strike to kill all survivors aboard a boat allegedly carrying drugs in the Caribbean Sea this fall.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed Monday that on Sept. 2, Hegseth authorized Adm. Frank Bradley to carry out a follow-up strike on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean; the strike reportedly killed two people who were hanging onto the burning vessel, having survived an initial strike.

“President Trump and Secretary Hegseth have made it clear that presidentially designated narco-terrorist groups are subject to lethal targeting in accordance with the laws of war,” Leavitt said. “Adm. Bradley worked well within his authority and the law to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America was eliminated.”

There’s more at the source if you want to give them the clicks.

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SFC D

“The Hill nicely shows us that the natural consequence of planting the seeds of doubt is that the troops will start to question their orders. This was the plan.”

Yes. It was planned and executed with great success. And complete deniability. Well played, you slimy cocksuckers.

Anonymous

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Not a Lawyer

This seems awfully convenient and contrived.

Slow Joe

Mark Kelly can eat a bag of dicks

Deckie

I bet when he wears turtlenecks he looks like a broken condom.

SFC D

He bears a striking resemblance to a shaved scrotum.

Mason
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Odie

Male politicians wear neckties because it keeps the foreskin down.

rgr769

Especially the totally bald ones.

Blaster

🤣🤣🤣

26Limabeans

Raw.

Anonymous

😛

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rgr1480

Back blast area all clear!!!

Awful Cause C

Some commenter was champion of youtube yesterday with,
“Sometimes Franklin comes out of his shell… and chooses violence.”

Anonymous

Well… as we know with war:
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rgr769

I would like to force feed him several bags.

CDR D

If Kelly wants to attract more attention to himself, he could toss his medals over the White House fence like a certain other Blue Falcon once did.

SFC D

The previous Blue Falcon didn’t even toss his own medals.

HT3

Tell the Commie loving prick with ears, Mark Kelly, to keep his dick skinners off our military. He’s using Soros money in a combined operation by him and other Dems like Hack-eem and their allies in The Ministry of Propaganda in order to undermine a duly elected CIC. Where was all this hub-bub when St. Barry O was drone striking m-fers like people change socks? Where was the outrage when The Auto Pen blew up a family in Kabul and then LIED about who was killed to try and distract everybody from the Abbey Gate fiasco? Where? That’s what I thought.

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FuzeVT

. . . and when the Best Biden™ drones non-combatant families.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58604655

Sapper3307

Follow the money?

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jeff LPH 3 63-66

All this shit about the drug boats shooting is because the Govt is using the Legitimacy Doctrine which is outside
international law and using Genocide as the reason which is
one of the 3 reasons that is in international letting the military do what they have to do. Remember Serbia killing Albanians and Syria gassing their people. So why the fuck ain’t the public being told this, Sorry for going off on this but I just got out of the hospital saturday after wednesday hernia bowel blockage surgery . Old school incision right across the gut. any of you active, retired Lawers know about the Doctrine?????

26Limabeans

Hey Jeff, tnx the update. I was getting concerned.
Hope your Doctrining went well.

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Thanks for caring Beans,,, Less pain after the surgery than the 2 hernia repairs I had years ago that were robotic. Operated Last Wednesday and realeased on Saturday and drove my car on Sunday. She did an old school 1 scalpel cut right across my lower stomach

26Limabeans
e.conboy

Take care Jeff and don’t lift anything. Get well soon!

HT3

Oh, no….that cock sucker Kelly is having the whole story blow up in his face like a trick cigar. NY Times and NY Post both report there was NO kill everybody order
Looks like the gutless anonymous leakers lied AGAIN…
when NY Times debunks the Dems its a chef’s kiss on the whole story

https://nypost.com/2025/12/02/us-news/pete-hegseth-didnt-order-killing-of-survivors-of-september-boat-strike-report/

David

Why in the name of God do you think the truth has anything to do with the narrative?

SFC D

No no no, they didn’t lie, “anonymous sources” implied that Secretary Hegseth may have said “kill everybody”. The American people’s overactive imaginations took that info and ran with it. That was their intent.

Not a Lawyer

Does this mean it will disappear faster than the Democratic calls for the Epstein Client list to be released?

rgr769

There is no “Epstein Client list.” He had lists of phone numbers of people he knew, but certainly all of them were not screwing those teen age girls at his properties or on his plane. Hillary and many other important females were his friends and acquaintances and were around him. I doubt they were all pedophiles.

e.conboy

Shuuuuure. So do I.

e.conboy

List? There was a list? 😉

e.conboy

We all know NOT to believe what we are told on news, don’t we?

rgr769

Welp, those of us who are not TDS infected Progs, any way.

Prior Service (Ret)

Somewhere in AZ, a certain senator is rubbing his hands together and chuckling, “I love it when a plan comes together.” Little does he know, he is still in FA territory….

rgr769

The Hill is another propaganda arm for the D-rats. It is just less rabid than MSDNC and CNN.

Skivvy Stacker

I can only imagine this particular Navy Captain having any of his subordinates going to his lower ranked officers, subordinate NCOs, or Enlisted Personnel with the same disagreeable opinion of his particular viewpoints, and him being excessively boisterous in his response to such perceived insubordinate response.
However, as for my own views, and I feel them to be well considered, and within the realm of honest and religious, and proper reflection, that I feel that our good Captain is unimaginable filled, at least to the very top of his skull, with animal excrement of the bovine variation.
My greatest apologies to all ladies and gentlemen present for my….ahem….indelicate language…

CDR D

Translation:
Kelly=

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SFC D

Is it telling that I’ve never seen or even heard of anyone that Kelly served with running to his defense?

rgr769

Now Senator Mark Warner is calling for the US military to rise up and “help save us from this president.” He was the real head of the Senate Intel Committee and a key player in the Russia, Russia!!” Hoax. Conservative Treehouse laid it all out back in Trump’s first term. MILITARY COUP? Sen. Mark Warner Says He Hopes Military ‘May Save Us’ From Trump Presidency (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Ben Kew

A Proud Infidel®™

Like many moonbat liberals, he too IMO is exhibiting signs of panic, like what you see from someone who KNOWS he’s guilty and there’s nothing he can do to stop what’s coming, DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

Docduracoat

What does everyone here think about a second strike to “survivors clinging to the wreckage”.

It seems to me that they are no longer any threat and doesn’t that makes it illegal to target them?

Especially if they are wounded.

Fyrfighter

Updated reports say they had recorded the vessel and seemed to be calling for assistance to salvage the cargo..in that light, a second strike would not just be ok, but required..

Fyrfighter

And of course, they’re drug runners, so Geneva convention, Hague accords, etc dont apply..