Be a hero, get… expelled?
Dateline Lansing, Michigan, in the Dwight Rich School of the Arts. Seems last May, a 12 year old boy brought a loaded handgun to school. I’m sure there is a logical reason for that… no, I really can’t think of one. Anyway, an 11 year old boy, Sakir McClurkin, who had already received some “hunting training” took the gun from the other boy, disasssembled it (? – do they mean he dropped the magazine?) and removed the ammunition therein.
Seems like a good kid to do that, right? The kind of commonsense kid we need more of. The school district would disagree – they expelled him.
Lansing mom Savitra McClurkin told local outlet WILX in a Sept. 19 interview that her 11-year-old son was expelled from Dwight Rich School of the Arts back in May after his classmate brought a gun to campus.
Back in May, WLNS and the Lansing State Journal reported that a disassembled, unloaded weapon was found inside the school. Police later arrested a 12-year-old boy, whose name has not been made public.
McClurkin told WILX that her son allegedly spotted his classmate carrying the gun, and he used his hunting knowledge to disarm and disassemble the weapon before throwing away the bullets.
“He didn’t want to implicate himself in it, nor did he want to tell on the person that actually brought the firearm,” she told the outlet. “Because he knows firearms aren’t supposed to be in school.”
When school administrators eventually learned that the 11-year-old had handled the weapon, they expelled him for possessing a gun, removing him from school for one year, his mother said.
His mother even went to a Lansing school board meeting to protest. Seems that besides being a solid A/B student, an athlete, and having no disciplinary background, he acted to defend his fellow students the way one would want him to, right?
“Expulsion is never a decision the district takes lightly. It is always considered a last resort,” the statement continued. “However, Michigan law provides very clear direction in cases involving dangerous weapons. The investigation — which included statements and video evidence — left no ambiguity and required this outcome.”People
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Michigan Law has zero tolerance for possession of a gun by a student at school and requires expulsion regardless of circumstances. The kid could have been charged.
It may sound silly but he didn’t protect the student who brought the gun. Because if that kid had pulled that gun out and the police had seen it there is an excellent chance he would have ended up dead.
He also didn’t protect his classmates as well as he may have thought. The other kid may have also had more ammunition and might have come back another day and opened up on his classmates. So while I understand his intentions, he should have followed school policy and reported it to a teacher or administrator. If the other kid gets kicked out of school, well GOOD. That is what we want. But he would have better protected his classmates that way.
If my memory serves me right, didn’t some grade schooler carry a gun in school,his classmates TOLD teachers and principle that this indivual WAS carrying and the teacher/admin did NOTHING?
Yup, that’s how it usually works. School don’t do sh*t and won’t let anyone else. All violence is wrong, tell an adult, let school (not) handle it! (Even Gandhi thought such was crap.)
Amazing, just about everything you wrote is wrong.
It would be a rare and dramatic exception to the rule when a teacher or administrator fails to act. Afterwards, that certain somebody will be going to prison. Failing to act because you think somebody else won’t do the right thing is actually one of the classical excuses of cowards. You keep going until you find someone who will act.
Your ridiculously misapplied quote certainly doesn’t apply to children who have little other means of defending themselves.
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/newport-news/trial-for-assistant-principal-in-richneck-es-shooting-to-be-rescheduled/
Oh, hey, cool– an assistant principal (a.k.a. “discipline specialist) who didn’t do sh*t may soon be getting told he’s got a purty mouth in prison for not doing sh*t! Of course, this rarely happens, except in cases like this where angry public folk won’t let it slide this time. Educrats “didn’t see” stuff and make excuses all the time, don’t kid yourself.
They sure love punishing people who defend themselves a lot more than punishing folk who hurt them. (Probably because the don’t want Dodge City breaking out in school, but also because they love in loco parentis authority but recoil from its responsibility like Dracula dropped in a vat of holy water… and figuring out who was wrong is too much work and responsibility.) The forced pacifism this means could, though, have a better quote (which this person said in early in WW2):
In full (about actually Hitler for liberals out there):
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay–and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein
I always liked this one…
Hey, when it comes to bad people doing bad things…
“It would be a rare and dramatic exception to the rule when a teacher or administrator fails to act.’
Really? Define “act”. My late father in law was literally knocked out by a student in a school hallway. He (the student) was suspended for a week. Sure, the administration “acted”.
People would be shocked at the criminal acts that the schools cover up. Theft, robbery, sexual assault, regular assault, assault with weapons, the list goes on. The schools refuse to involve the police because then that would tarnish the reputation of the little felons.
When I was going to a NYC H.S., we didn’t have those problems except when I was in study hall on a wednesday which was seniors day and I wore the wrong shirt color and a couple of seniors pulled down my pants plus we had super seniors older than 17 who if I remember were making zip guns in the wood working shop. I took a General course.
Children have been suspended or worse for pointing their fingers like a gun or folding/tearing a sheet of white paper into a rough gunlike shape. There is an old saying, “Those that can’t, teach”. I would add to that-“And those that can’t even teach become administrators.”
“It may sound silly “
Yep. The kid may have saved a few lives. He saw a dangerous situation and stepped in and defused it. I would give the kid a medal. The only thing that kid did that may have been wrong was not turning the perp in, and I would like to know more about why he didn’t before I hammered him. I am guessing a kid (Not an adult, remember) with that much courage and smarts doesn’t need more than talking to in order to correct his bad behavior.
I have, for several tyears, taught my grandkids how to clear pistols, rifles and shotguns, and how to safely handle them. I also teach them, if it’s not your gun, don’t touch it.
The system rid tius kid wrong though. But that’s what you get with a bureaucracy. Follow the rules blindly, and avoid common sense at all costs.
I wonder what would have happened if he had disarmed an active shooter?
Punished him for being violent and not using his words. He should tell an adult, cower in place, have an external locus of control and be helpless, and (if he survives) after therapy to tell him he’s a good person for doing nothing attest how “violence isn’t the answer” instead
P.S. I’m pretty sure if he let some of his friends get killed by running away and “telling an adult,” then their parents (and probably his own) would want to beat his ass. But maybe I’m just a neanderthal.
When I was a kid we brought our .22’s to school and kept
them in our lockers for rifle team practice and training later.
And that was in the greater Boston area.
Most every house had a firearm of some sort. There was this club called the Boy Scouts one could join and get even more
safety training.
Nah, I must have dreamed all that.
Back in the late eighties, our suburban HS library still counted ‘Guns & Ammo’ and ‘Shooting Times’ among it’s periodicals. Nowhere to be seen today.
Shotgun news was a great paper. Had a chance to buy a used prison electric chair, jet cockpit seat and an Enigma machine back in the 70’s.. didn’t buy none of them but should have bought the Enigma coder since I was into WW2 subs at the time.
Shotgun News morphed into Firearms News. Only magazine I get that runs 5-10 page ads for SARCO and some of the other surplus houses.
AH, Sarco, great in the shotgun news ads. I remember they got involved with selling stuff they shouldn’t have been selling. Do you remember what that was???
John Meshna’s Surplus in Lynn MA
had a lot of stuff back in the 50’s/60’s.
Mostly electronic but the
occasional gem would show up.
Dang, an Enigma would’ve been badass!
Boy Scouts! That’s a sexist fascist paramilitary training program!
I commented right after my below comment (1957) that A lot of H.S. had indoor ranges on Long Island NY for I think it was getting students trained for Olympic shooting plus rifle teams that you mentioned. I was looking for my second comment and couldn’t find it so It turns out that I forgot to hit the send button.
What a difference from the email I received back in 2016 which was titled High School 1957- vs 2016 which had around 8 incidents with students compared to students in 2016 High Schools. first one was that in 1957, Jack pulls into the school parking lot in his pickup truck after duck hunting with his shotgun mounted in the trucks gun rack. Vice Principle comes over, looks at Jacks shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2016 – School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again Counselors called in for traumatized and teachers. Back in the day, Some High schools had indoor ranges.
I like it when problems are solved at the lowest level.
Plus ‘no snitching’ is pretty tight.
Now bring a pistol to school is no accident and every time it happened around me there was no outcomes other than a resounding “wtf-ing” from me and my friends.
One time a Glock got “hot potatoed” thru a bunch of lockers, to include mine unbeknownst to me.
Had it been pinned on me I woulda spilt a 55 gallon drum of dimes tho.
“Dad! Look at what followed me home from school!”
(Paper sack of glockparts in lunchbox)
“Zero tolerance” policies should be unenforceable.
(Note: I am not a lawyer, nor have I ever portrayed on in the barracks.)
There is no law written by man which can cover all of the possible combination of events leading to an action or inaction. Why a wise judge is necessary.
Unfortunately, the supply of wise judges is being depleted daily.
I’ve got a wild take.
If the little dude wanted to be smooth -and- a hero, he shouldn’t have gotten caught on video and shouldn’t have said shit to the cops.
I hope he learned some lessons, 1) don’t leave any evidence and 2) sometimes the people you’re covering for take you down anyway.
Stop the expulsion. Bring him back to school. Let him be the hero he is. What a wise choice he made. Use this as an opportunity for learning in the school. He should write a book, even a brief one, and publish on Amazon. His mom should be so proud. Shame on those schools for blocking him from attending.
Self-help is highly discouraged by leftists. They don’t want you doing anything for yourself that you could rely upon state actors for.
They’ll even go so far as to make self-help illegal if they can get away with it.
Case in point.
This kid did a very ballsy and very honorable thing. Granted, after he disarmed the kid and took the ammunition, the next move should’ve been REPORT. This punishment is way overboard, common sense has been completely shitcanned.
It is truly depressing when children show more sense than the people whose job it is to teach and guide them.