Social Security database cleared of 12.4 million accounts listing beneficiaries over 120 years of age
President Donald Trump and Social Security Administrator Frank Bisignano declared that 12.4 millions names of people over 120 years of age were cleared from the social security database. They also purged almost 275,000 names belonging to illegal aliens from this database. Tens of thousands of people “over 160 years of age” also had their accounts purged from the system.
From Newsmax:
“And what that’s doing is making the system strong,” Trump said. “[Joe] Biden never kicked anybody off. Everybody joined. And we’re carrying out historic deportations to remove many more illegals committing Social Security fraud. It’s a Social Security fraud that was taking place at levels that nobody’s ever seen.
“We cleared 12.4 million names listed in the Social Security database over 120 years of age. Think of that. So, we had 12.4 million names where they were over 120 years old. Is that right? That’s a hell of a statement. … There were nearly 135,000 people listed who were over 160 years old and in some cases, getting payments. So, somebody’s getting those payments, and we’re after that.”
Trump laid much of the blame on what ails Social Security to the Biden administration’s policies and praised Bisignano’s work to reform the agency in the first 200-plus days of Trump’s second term.
“Under Biden, Social Security went down like nobody’s ever seen,” Trump said. “It deteriorated. There’s never been anything like it. The four years [under] Biden were very, very destructive. It couldn’t have gone on much longer [or] Social Security was going to be destroyed. It was being destroyed. The average call wait time reached an all-time high of more than 42 minutes. Field office wait times were at 32 minutes, which is unheard of. And the disability claims backlog was the longest ever in recorded history.
Additional Reading:
Katz, M. (2025, August 14). Trump: 275,000 illegals booted off Social Security. Newsmax. Link.
Category: DOGE, Donald Trump, Government Incompetence, Society
Always wondered how many people out there were still collecting grandma’s Soc Security check. Guess those people can finally get her body out of that chest freezer down in the basement. Maybe they won’t get caught like someone else did.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/social-security-scheme-frozen-trnd
Stop believing lies. Clown.
Of these 120,000,000 accounts only 6000 were receiving benefits.
And they were survivor benefits to widowed spouses and disabled dependent children.
It sounds like you’re making the statement that social security fraud does not exist. How many of those 6000 you speak of are actually entitled to those benefits? Enlighten us, I implore you!
*crickets*
Walt was always right…
OMG! I pissed Commissar off enough with my GI humor he responded.
I’d put that on my resume’. You have officially arrived!
You go GUrl/
I’ve even heard rumor that Jasmine Crockett’s family has been steadily collecting her deceased Grandmother’s monthly checks for a few years.
She had to pay for those St. Louis private schools somehow.
“There were nearly 135,000 people listed who were over 160 years old”
My GF’s mom is 104 so long way to go before she has to worry.
So your girlfriend is umm… How old?
My ex’s grandma died this year at the young age of 108. It was a sad day for Fox News. She watched that channel 24/7 so I’m sure their ratings took a hit. She had a little exercise bike and she would sit there all day and ride it. When something spicy came on she would pedal harder.
She said the secret to a long life was to never stop moving. So long as you keep moving you are alive. That and Xanax probably.
They were not receiving benefits, fucking idiot.
A social security number being “active” doesn’t mean it was paying benefits.
Only 6000 of these accounts were paying benefits. And that is because they had surviving widowed spouses and dependent adult children.
Nice to see you back my conservative friend Commissar with your socialist shtik act. See you later Alligator.
It matters not one whit whether any of those accounts were paying, they had to go. That’s simple enough that even you should be able to wrap your indoctrinated little head around it. Now, if you can give me one solid reason why dead people should remain on the social security rolls, I will publicly apologize for calling you out.
Oooh, ain’t you special today? Well, it’s obvious that EVERYONE who doesn’t see things his way is an idiot to good ‘ol Major Moonbat!!!
Aside from possible fraud, it is good to clean up databases and such just as a matter of efficiency. Computer memory/storage is a lot cheaper than it used to be, but it still costs money. Processing time is also much cheaper than it used to be, but searching through an additional 12.4 million records does cost, and may also increase the chance of errors and security breaches.
I’d love to see actual evidence that ‘people’ over 160 were somehow getting payments. By their own policies, there is a cut-off at 115:
https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0202602578
There’s also a whole report from a few years ago on why there are people ~19M or so people without death information on their record, but that doesn’t mean they’re somehow getting benefits:
https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf
What is your point? Are saying having millions of people on accounts that aren’t alive is a good thing?
“At this point, what difference does it make?!”
He has got to go after a few of them and hang them out to try to shift public perception.
And I hope he does.
They were not paying benefits.
That is a huge fucking difference.
It. Does. Not. Matter. Dead people need to come off the rolls. Both voting and social security.
‘especially voting rolls.
You graduate from Cali public school?
Over your head, dipshit.
Get a fucking job already and stop being a leech on society.
“They were not paying benefits”
And you know this because……? You have conducted your own investigation, perhaps? Is SS the only government program I have ever heard of where there is no fraud?
I’m saying two things:
1) These millions of people aren’t receiving benefits, which is what most folks think when they hear about millions of ‘dead people’ on SSA.
2) Per the report linked, removing these people has been an ongoing effort by the IG, with some resistance from the SSA itself because the effort involved to identify death information wasn’t, in their opinion, worth the costs, given the controls they had in place to ensure no benefits were being paid to these dead people anyway.
All in all, sure, it’s good they finally got this done. But it’s not exactly a trivial process.
1) These millions of people need to co0me off the rolls, regardless of any benefits still being paid.
2) The cost of removing any actual or possible fraud is always worth it. SSA didn’t want to do the actual work to thin their rolls.
SSAN used to be the end all of secure ID’s.
Fingerprints, DNA, passport, drivers license.
And passwords….don’t forget passwords.
And never write them down!
If it were not for all the government help I
wouldn’t know who I am.
Don’t carry that paper card around in your wallet and for the luv, don’t ever laminate it.
Just because other people are lazy and stupid doesn’t make me want to be lazy and stupid too. I’m one of these weird white people that likes to get things done correctly and not let stupid shit pile up until we are literally millions of accounts behind. What kind of bank would allow that to happen? Maybe one going out of business would.
My replies to He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named also apply here.
Stop fucking pretending you all aren’t framing this as 120,000,000 accounts were still paying benefits.
It was 6000 accounts paying benefits. Survivior benefits to still living spouses and dependents.
Nobody said that. Well, you did. If you are dead, you need to be removed from active social security rolls.
I believe the number was 12.4 million (12,400,000) not 120 million.
I’m not framing shit, you are. At least you are trying to.
The article is what it was written as. You have proven beyond any doubt to me over the years that you have some kind of serious reading comprehension problem. So, I don’t see any point in belaboring the point that you have serious problems understanding the written word.
I mean if you are upset because you are going to lose the over 115 year-old voting block that tends to vote 100% Democrat through nursing home volunteers, I get it, it might swing an election. Sucks to be a Democrat in the time of sunshine, go grow some hay.
“By their own policies, there is a cut-off at 115:”
You’re assuming that the feds are following their own policies. See also “Joe Biden and the southern border”.
Explain to me why it is a bad thing to remove 19 million dead people from the SSA rolls. It does not matter if benefits are being paid, they gotta go.
Stop making up excuses for your bullshit.
Only 6000 of these 120,000,000 accounts were paying benefits.
Survivor benefits to spouses and dependents.
I will now quote myself:
“Explain to me why it is a bad thing to remove 19 million dead people from the SSA rolls.”
I await your answer, oh wise Commissar.
It’ll probably be a while, I bet he’s still hyperventilating into a paper bag after that post of his!!!
“You’re assuming that the feds are following their own policies”
One would think that would be obvious to anyone with a double digit IQ–even an (alleged) officer.
Than you LC.
TheBigSig is lying as usual. Taking advantage of the fact that people assume “active social security number” means “actively paying benefits.”
Only 6000 of these 120,000,000 accounts were paying benefits. Survivor benefits to spouses and dependent adult children (a child born to a recipient that was deemed permanently disabled in childhood so can receive survivor benefits if the parent dies).
Use that big ol’ brain and tell me why dead people should stay on the rolls. Here’s a hint: There’s no reason.
These two don’t seem to want to mention the 270,000 confirmed illegals that were found on the rolls.
They’re just hard working immigrants, doing the work Americans won’t do. They’re paying taxes and social security. Under fraudulent names and someone else’s SSN.
Lord love a duck, are just soft headed or what? First off it isn’t 120M. Secondly, you are extrapolating things you can’t possibly know to be true. Thirdly the Big Sig never said any of that, you did. Why you said it is a mystery I don’t want an answer to.
You should attend another “No Kings” rally. Trump could become a king any moment now. Then you can make up other stuff that isn’t happening and complain about that too.
The only thing left to do now is call us all racists and run away. Argument won, yahoo you showed us.
Yep, not in it for the hunting.
He just needs his fair share of abuse.
Nobody made the assumption “…active social security number means actively paying benefits”.
That’s your assumption that you’re projecting on everyone else here.
I have an active SSN but I’m not drawing benefits from the program, and I’m alive and was born in this country by American parents.
You fail at this station.
“…Survivor benefits to spouses and dependent adult children…”
You keep repeating that. Got links? (Not that I don’t trust you).
Ah, LC, it seems you don’t know how the scam works.
A dead person in the rolls means a social security number that can be sold illegally.
But Slow Joe, I am also slow. Who in the world would be interested in buying a social security number to work and vote illegally in the United States of America?
You don’t suppose it could be any of the 20 million illegals that flooded through the impossible to secure borders under Joe Biden? I mean, I mean I’m not saying that is what it is, JB & Sour is trying to talk me into saying it though.
And there is always the possibility of someone inside the SSA circumventing all those safeguards and using those names to defraud the gov’t. It has been known to happen occasionally.
“By their own policies, there is a cut-off at 115”
I conclude, then, that we all agree that Social Security has been poorly managed for years. So what’s so bad about finally cleaning things up? This may be just a symptom, who knows what other problems have been ignored or missed due to sloppy administration?
Somewhere Maggoty Desanti weeps.
As do many folks at All-Points Logistics.
CNN Headline:
“Trump Cancels Social Security Services for Advanced Seniors”
“Trump sends seniors expired dog food after canceling their SSA benefits”
Expired dog food, that sounds a little RUFF.
What the hell is an “Advanced Senior”?
I’m old, fairly smart but if I can better myself I’m all ears..
Maybe someone over 110. There are a lot of them in most cemeteries that have been in existence for more than fifty years. Especially, if you count the birthdays after they died. C’mon man, if the can vote why can’t they have an active SSN?
So there’s hope for me after all! 😁 Just kidding…
I’m trying to get to a point where I can retire comfortably. I have off today, but worked almost 45 hours this week, contribute an okay amount to 401k, and have my retirement and disability. But every time I think I’m building up a little bit, something blindsides me. $3k home a/c repair, $2700k car ac repair (ridiculous, but the new R-1234YF costs something like 4x what R-134 does, and few independent shops have the equipment yet; I could have gotten the parts and refrigerant for maybe $800 but it’s been years since I replaced a condenser, and the Fort Transit Connect has so many sensors, I knew I’d screw something up), $300 cremation for my lab, $600 vet bill for my mountain cur. Did I mention I splurged and ate at McDonald’s this past week? Yeah, that was $15, a long way from the “value” that fast food used to offer. As an aside, I don’t really care much for any fast-food place now. Whataburger is good, and I haven’t seen anything in those to curb my appetite, but a lot of Sonics stink inside, McDonald’s is as greasy and messy as it always has been, and Wendy’s has roaches in their smart safes and keeps their bacon and other stuff stored in the open and uncovered.
Social Security, like it or not, is part of our system now, and those of us who do legitimate, above-board work contribute to it. While my parents and grandparents relied on it to supplement retirement, and some rely on Social Security as their sole source of income, those days should be behind late Gen-X and younger generations. We need to just count on it going away by the time we are in our late-60s.
You are really going to be mad in 2033 when they cut benefits to 77% (Which is an “A+” by Berkeley Standards). Don’t blame me, it been posted on their website for the last ten years.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/
Just out of curiosity, how many of them voted Democrat?
Given the ages, I’m sure all did. Maybe not for the same types of Dem politicians they voted for while alive (Wilson and such), but hey, KamalaJoe Harris and Bernin’ Pampers have a (D) next to their names. Piss poor name play on my part, but I’m trying something different today.
I’m guessing most of them still do.
My Dad always voted Republican, but now he has voted Democrat in the past ten years since he died. Funny how that conversion works.
If I lived to be 160 tears old, then I’d be their age.
If someone WAS 160 years old, they’d have been born during the Civil War. Where’s the GAO’s auditors? Compliance? I mean goddamn at some point somebody has to check birth dates for outliers, right? I read stories about grannie’s checks being cashed even though she’s been dead for 10 years regularly. The inability to hold many federal employees accountable for unprofessional work has cost this country billions and billions of dollars.
Hopefully you will still be commenting here.
I’ll keep an eye out for you.
Eye see what you mean.
My MiL passed in January. The mortuary that issued the death certificate also notifies SSA and sends them a copy. Her SS payments stopped immediately. SSA notified whatever civil service office that handled her retirement, and her pay stopped, the federal insurance payment process started. Had to repay one month. This is how the system is supposed to work and usually does. It was surprisingly easy and so efficient I had to wonder if it was really the feds.
Most of us have dealt with the death of parents at this point. But if you know a friend with a back hoe, or someone that runs a morgue and is willing to botch some paperwork…..
I wonder if anyone would ask questions if you walked into Lowe’s and bought a shovel, tarp, and lime all at once.
I received a letter from SSA that my recently deceased relative’s last payment had to be returned or arrangements made to pay back the money. I was giggling about it because I had already returned the check and made sure no more were sent. My leftist relatives told me I was stupid and I should have cashed the check (I had power of attorney) and let the gov’t try to get the money. I told them I was not in the mood to commit a felony. The said thing (besides the death) was, the leftists were serious. As is everything in the leftist world, bad isn’t bad when it’s done by nice people like them.
Your very interesting observation coincides with my observations as well. I have noticed how leftists have no qualms about breaking the law, even when it is a law they support or a proposal they wish to force on the rest of us.
Got exactly the same letter. MiL’s payment was direct deposit, we knew it was gonna have to be paid back and acted accordingly. Had to wait for the letter so we’d know where to send it.
“…let the gov’t try to get the money.”
Ain’t no “try” about it. And they called you stupid?
These 120 million social security numbers were NOT receiving benefits.
They were social security numbers still active in the system because the people died and failed to notify the social security administration that they had died.
The benefits had stopped when the state notified the system within weeks of their deaths.
Of these 120 million accounts on 6000 were receiving benefits… and these were surviving spouses and dependent adult children of the deceased.
So Trump just cut off benefits to 6000 90-100+ year old widows and 80+ year old disabled adult children.
And you fucking scumbags are framing it as Trump saving money.
“adult children”
Is that a legal term? Not trying to be snarky.
never mind, answered my own question. Tnx
The term “adult children” refers to people who have reached adulthood but exhibit childlike behaviors, traits, lack the ability to reason or apply logic, or have deficient coping skills.
(See “Commissar”)
Democrats.
Show me the proof that anyone lost legally entitled benefits because of this. Purging the rolls, any rolls, of inactive accounts is basic bookkeeping. It should be done on a continual basis, not when there are 12 million very questionable accounts.
“They were social security numbers still active in the system because the people died and failed to notify the social security administration that they had died”.
“The benefits had stopped when the state notified the system within weeks of their deaths.”
Wut? That’s some Pelosi/Harris level gobbledygook word salad right there. Are you daydrinking?
Your level of fraudulence has reached a new level. You’re even lying to yourself now.
You know where to find me when you have the proof ready for me. I’m a very patient man.
He can’t and won’t.
“…12.4 million names of people over 120 years of age were cleared from the social security database. They also purged almost 275,000 names belonging to illegal aliens.”
FIRST – Where in the article, post, or any response here infers or says “Only 6,000 of these accounts were paying benefits.”? The only person claiming that is you.
SECOND – Post something that reports where 6,000 SSA benefits have been suspended because of the purge of records. (And if you use REDDIT, MSNBC, or anything similar, you will be in the impact area.)
“They were social security numbers still active in the system because the people died and failed to notify the social security administration [sic] that they had died.”
THIRD – People who pass away are incapable of informing the Social Security Administration that they are deceased.
Do better.
I was a wee bit curious about those 6,000 souls as well. If it’s true, and they’re truly entitled to those benefits and lost them, I’m gonna need more than Commissar’s word as an Off… as a… I’m just gonna need more.
I’ve done my own research and haven’t found anything to substantiate his claim. If it were true, you can bet the MSM would be churning out all kinds of misinformation.
(I’ve also noticed that whenever a blog post count is high, and if the topic mentions Trump in any way, you can bet it’s a dog whistle for Commissar to take to his keyboard in a frenzy and reinforce how moronic he is.)
”Sucks to suck” as the saying goes.
You just saved me some typing brother. Damn this is dude is thick as a brick. Why does he keep coming on here with all this made up nonsense and no reading skills? Oh well.
Yeah, terms like “cleared” and “purged” don’t equate or infer to payments…in the context of the article.
Words have meaning, but if a person struggles with reading comprehension and sentence structure, perception of the rest of the world becomes skewed, I suppose.
Must be tough dropping a lot of money into a Masters program at a school that was once respected, only to come out less informed and stupider than when first admitted.
“THIRD…”
Caught that, did you? I still have a big grin on my face. Definitely belongs in the “Best of….” collection.
“They were social security numbers still active in the system because the people died and failed to notify the social security administration that they had died”. Please, explain for us how someone who has died “failed to notify the Social Security System”, if you can. Or, would those be the folks who died that are still voting democrat?
Well, with check-to-bank and nobody checking regularly, folk could be dead for years.
If you’re genuinely interested, it’s because the vast majority of these people are ones who died a long time ago, and the processes, record-keeping and systems weren’t quite as robust as they are now. That’s why there are people listed as 150+ years old – they were born in the late 1800s. And, when they died, no systematic record was made of that.
These days, it’s far, far better.
They aren’t voting, they aren’t collecting social security, they’re quirks in a complex system that evolved beyond its original intended purpose.
They aren’t doing anything they are dead, got it. Now show us that nobody else is using their SSN to vote or work.
I’ll wait. Since you can’t do that it will be very long wait.
My understanding -and, sure, I could be wrong, this isn’t my area of expertise- is that when someone uses an SSN to work, a basic check is done for when and where it was issued, and other such things like addresses where the person who used it lived.
Now, my guess is that if a 30-year old illegal immigrant comes and applies for a job with an SSN issued in, say, 1902, that’s far more likely to trigger some questions than if they used an active SSN that belongs to someone else. A ‘trace’, which is again what I think is typically done, doesn’t show jobs associated with that SSN.
Some fraud certainly comes from these old accounts, and once again, I’ve got zero problems with them being removed. But most of the fraud is more routine identity theft of current, living people. That’s the bigger problem.
Like you, I’m a ‘get shit done’ kind of person, and in my job, I can never get everything done. I often focus on the bigger problems, and the smaller ones are put on the back burner for a blissful, never-to-arrive day when there aren’t more pressing fires to put out. I assume the government agencies operate the same way with these things.
Can you show me where these are the bigger problem? And warrant redirecting resources from a larger pool of fraud? If you can, awesome, I’ve got no ideological desire to somehow want to keep incorrect records in the system. I just think there are bigger fish to fry.
Businesses that hire illegal aliens don’t look at SSN’s that hard. Name matches the number, number is active, get your ass to work. They’re not going to use e-verify.
“if a 30-year old illegal immigrant comes and applies for a job with an SSN issued in, say, 1902…”
That alone should trigger a fraud alert, since Social Security was signed into Law by FDR in 1935. 33 years after that 1902 issuance.
We will just leave it at the door of; “I could be wrong”.
Not sure what you mean by the “bigger problem”. Unless your problem is a nuclear warhead streaking towards your home full of all of your loved ones and you there is Always a bigger problem. That doesn’t mean that things don’t get fixed.
Here I’m not sure if you are against this just because of your chronic TDS or you really know the real reasons why but don’t want to admit it. It’s odd to get so much push back from simply correcting records that were wrong. Sounds like a good thing to me.
But TRUMP!!! Gotta be something fishy or wrong about it. In fact we should have more wrong data in the system. It’s worked for years, no reason to change it now. Orange man is bad, bad, bad… We need those broken records to save democracy and keep Trump from becoming a king!
The harder you protest, the dumber you sound.
I think he believes the Feds should look at all the problems in federal programs, prioritize them, then fix them in order, one at a time. Inefficient even by government standards. There’s a reason we have departments with cabinet-level leadership.
Exactly how do you know they’re not voting? How do you know there’s no one using that SSN illegally? You’re making a lot of assumptions here. Closed and purged accounts cannot be used fraudulently.
“They aren’t voting, they aren’t collecting social security,………”
You are unjustifiably optimistic.
“systems weren’t quite as robust as they are now.”
Heh.
Like the system that cleans up the database.
Noticed you’re being asked a lot of questions on here you have no fucking answer for.
Maybe instead of regurgitating your same old talking points you should… uhh.. get on that or shut the fuck up?
Jesus you’re stupid. No wonder you’re unemployed. Who wants to deal with you and that face-mounted, shit spewing cock garage of yours.
He gets out of his depth in a rain puddle. Answering questions is for lowly men that don’t already have all the answers.
“…the people died and failed to notify the social security administration that they had died”
LOL!
Thanks for that; made my day. Worth the wait.
A lot of back n’ forth here, someone intentionally missing the point, and wildass conclusions… so lemme add my own!:
–of one thing I’m certain, fraud or potential fraud aside, the total number of SS recipients has been used as a vector of malfeasance, “We need a budget of X because of Y…” shit. Ever sign into the MWR facility?
-If there is fraud first you need to define where it occurred, Ergo…
Subpoint, don’t we want distros to go where they’re need most? (I’m a heretic so I say ‘burn it down’…)
-small potatoes, but they’re there. Keeping record, especially active, ones comes with a cost. Computation of detritus is exponential and should be priority, especially if you’re a Climate Change is an Existential Threat-type.
-I’m still waiting for an actually aggrieved party to be paraded by the usual propagandists (NPR, MSNBC, CNN, et al.).
If you’re OK with theft of your tax dollars then write your own MFing check.