Here we go again
SECDEF Hegseth is being accused again of having shared sensitive information over the Signal app. This too was around the Houthi attacks a while back, this is a slightly new scandal in that the information was allegedly shared in a different Signal chat stream that included his wife and brother.
CNN has the story (if you can trust their brand of small “j” journalism);
Hegseth shared detailed military plans in second Signal chat that included his wife and brother
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared detailed plans about a military operation against the Houthis in Yemen on a second Signal group chat, this one on his personal phone and including his wife, lawyer and brother, three people familiar with the chat told CNN.
The chat was set up during Hegseth’s tumultuous confirmation hearing process as a way for his closest allies to strategize, two of the people familiar with the matter said. But Hegseth continued using the chat, which had more than a dozen people in it, to communicate after he was confirmed, the people said.
The revelation comes as some of Hegseth’s closest advisers have begun sounding the alarm about the secretary’s judgment, including his former press secretary, John Ullyot, and three former senior officials Hegseth fired last week — his top adviser Dan Caldwell, deputy chief of staff Darin Selnick, and Colin Carroll, who served as chief of staff to the deputy secretary of defense.
“It’s been a month of total chaos at the Pentagon. From leaks of sensitive operational plans to mass firings, the dysfunction is now a major distraction for the president — who deserves better from his senior leadership,” Ullyot said in a statement obtained by CNN. Ullyot also wrote a scathing op-ed about Hegseth for Politico on Sunday.
The second Signal chat is in addition to the one Hegseth used to communicate with Cabinet officials last month about military plans. That chat is under investigation by the Defense Department’s acting inspector general.
Similar to the first Signal chat, which was revealed publicly by The Atlantic after its editor was mistakenly included by national security adviser Mike Waltz, the military plans Hegseth shared in the second chat were about strikes against the Houthis, the people said.
Hegseth’s brother Phil, as well as his lawyer Tim Parlatore, both have jobs at the Department of Defense. But his wife, Jennifer, does not, despite Hegseth regularly including her during the beginning of his tenure in meetings with foreign leaders. It is not clear whether everyone in the second Signal chat has a security clearance.
A spokesperson for the Pentagon, Sean Parnell, said in a tweet Sunday night that “there was no classified information in any Signal chat.”
Following the release of the report, the Pentagon’s top official took to Twitter on Sunday evening to rail against Democrats, replying to a tweet from the Democratic National Committee calling for Hegseth’s ousting. In the first public response since the news broke, Hegseth replied via his personal Twitter account: “Your agenda is illegals, trans & DEI — all of which are no longer allowed” at the Defense Department.
The New York Times was first to report on the second Signal chat.
There’s more at the source, if you want to read CNN.
I don’t know why Hegseth would be suspicious of those working closest to him leaking things. Certainly this latest leak isn’t confirmation that there’s a lack of trust in his inner circle. It’s just more “chaos” and “sustained turmoil” that they always accuse anyone in the Trump Administration of fomenting.
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Call me when he starts sharing his chats with the ChiComs. Or the Russkies…or The Ragheads.
He did clown.
He used a an unsecured personal cell phone. The Russians and the Chinese have more than enough intelligence capability to compromise any personal cell phone in the world they choose to target.
Which is why you are not supposed to use your personal cell phone for high level classified conversations, even if you use a “secure” app you downloaded from the App Store.
You just keep moving the goalposts because you don’t give actually give a fuck about national security.
You only care about rooting for your team.
Fucking pathetic.
Also, “ragheads”? From which decade did you just wake from your drunken stupor?
We’re actually trying to put the goalposts back where they belong. Signal is approved by the feds for nonclassified use, stop repeating the lie. Would you say the same thing about using Micorsoft Outlook or Office? All publically available, all approved. He was not in government service when this chat occurred, he was perfectly justified in using his personal phone for personal business. The real question that should be asked, not that you’d ever consider it in your extremely narrow-minded, terminally-biased viewpoint, is who is leaking Hegseth’s personal conversations?
You’re a fraud. You may go now.
He isn’t using it for non classified use, dioshit.
So, if he was in a dress and makeup and crossed his legs lady like, you would find him more than qualified? Or, abandoned his post to check into a hospital for yet to be released reasons (as far as I know), without letting his boss (CiC) know, he would be golden?
He did not yet have a clearance, he was not yet SECDEF. Anything he spoke of was unclassified. Not even CUI.
You’re still here? Why? Run along now, go play with your friends.
Yes, he has a mid-afternoon circle-jerk scheduled with his Pantifa buddies.
Or play with himself. He may be the only friend he has.
“A Circle-Jerk of One”.
Prove it.
You have clearly never held a TS/SCI clearance in your life.
You are dismissed. You may go now.
I hold one now, can you say that? I’m not going anywhere.
If anyone commenting here is passing info to the Chicoms, it is him.
Ahhhhhhh. Yawn, gasp! Hey commisar shut up!
Glad to see you back my Conservative commenter with the Socialist Shtick act. Read your comments and like always, my BP stays normal. You would have had a nice act back when the hotels were opened in the NY Catskills. Hope to hear you again on the site so see you later Alligator.
Don’t worry, no “reasonable prosecutor” would pursue charges for passing classified information on an insecure network.
For once I have to agree with Commissar, If I had done this during the decade I worked in intelligence (both military and civilian) had I or anyone we knew done something equivalent, we would have been in Leavenworth.
To apply this equally, you would have had to do it prior to your time in Intel.
David,
Agreed.
My TS/SCI came and went in the 1980s.
But the doom and gloom briefings of consequences, specifically Leavenworth, were more than periodic.
Not only for breaching anything inside the TS/SCI facilities, but ALSO for the Confidential (examples KG-13 and KY-3) and Secret (KW-26) cryptographic equipments, and even more so, for the full range of classified crypto keying materials, key cards and paper tapes
(fresh off the world news of the Walker Spy Scandal).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_Walker
Only if you were a Republican.
Look who’s back and with his unique and clearly unbiased approach.
Where there is smoke there is usually fire.
Not true when talking about Democrats. They lie through their teeth trying to stick something on the Donald.
They know Hegseth seems vulnerable now because of the previous Signal “scandal”.
Like a pack of hyenas, the dems have identified Hegseth as a weak link in the DJT’s circle, and are trying to complete the kill.
Like I have said before, circle the wagons around our people and don’t let the Dems undermine your trust in DJT and his crew.
Where there is smoke, might be arson.
Another blatant attempt at “Let’s you and him fight”, and Trump isn’t taking the bait.
Anyone defending Hegseth at this point is a bigger clown than he is.
He was an incompetent DUI hire who had the audacity to claim the DoD was going to become entirely merit based on his watch when he was among the most meritless appointments in Presidential history.
Utterly unqualified. Ethically unfit. Clownishly incompetent.
He carried out the firings of dozens of senior military leaders who were immensely more qualified and experienced than he was accusing them of being DEI hires entirely because they were women or black.
Never demonstrating a single moment of professionalism or effectiveness as a Defense Secretary, and continuously making a mockery of operational security.
Putting lives at risk every time he used his unsecured personal cell phone to conduct national security discussions with colleagues, subordinates, and family members.
He did not call China and tell them he would rat his president out. Like other people did.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Gen Miley. Remember?
He didn’t reveal classified, he didn’t compromise national security and he was acting under the direction of the Secretary of Defense.
He told them the US had no intention of attacking China in the fall of 2020.
That is not an act of treason, asshats.
Calling an adversary and telling them they will be warned is absolutely treason. And whoever directed it is guilty as well. A decent commissioned officer would know that. Hell, a decent PVT would know that.
I guess he forgot about that before getting all spun up about orange man bad and his equally bad staff.
I have spoken to you about this before.
You are not allowed to make personal attacks when responding to me. To use the term “Asshat” in reference to all of us in a response to ME is a direct use of name calling on my account.
I do not allow people the luxury of that sort of response. It is swinish and derogatory, and is not called for from one man to another.
I have my dignity, sir…please respect it.
That’s funny. That’s the usually the common reaction to your posts.
Once again demonstrating your unbiased steel trap memory for oopsies by anyone not affiliated with republicans/conservatives.
He carried out the firings of dozens of senior military leaders who were
immensely more qualified and experienced than he was accusing them of beingDEI hiresentirely because they were women or black.FIFY. He was not SECDEF at the time of this “transgression”. Anything he discussed with anyone at that time was pure speculation. You, know much like everything we discuss here.
Just off the top of my head I can think of firings HE carried out; the senior JAG officers (because they refused to ignore the law for Trump) and the Chief of Naval Operations.
There was a dozen others that he fired. overwhelmingly black and female officers.
Quick, give me names, dates of termination, and the reason given. Prove to me that being black or female was the cause. You’re supposedly trained in intel operations, I’m sure you can find something to back up your claims. Until you do, you’re just another liberal clown spewing the party line. Facts, or shut up.
They are not going to openly say it was because they were black and female.
But they did do it while ranting about dismissing “DEI” hires. And it was overwhelmingly female, and minority (especially black) leaders.
If I served under Hegseth and he was ranting about removing socialists from the military and dismissed me would you be asking for proof it was because I was a socialist?
Always a god damn “hide the integrity” she’ll flee with you fucks.
Lies, misdirection, and excuses is all you fucks have to defend this bullshit.
Seems the entire goal of DEI was putting the women and blacks (and all the gender bullshit) ahead of merit based hirings, so…
Why do you keep coming here?
He likes the abuse.
Lmmfao, daymn
It feeds into his delusional worldview. He is a heroic martyr for truth and justice, suffering abuse from us evil folks.
Enough deflection. Give me facts. Reasons for dismissal. Google is your friend.
“…Give me facts…”
LOL.
Good luck with that.
Dude your posts here over the years prove well enough that you are militant socialist. That and your professed and likely illegal Antifa activities would be enough to get you removed from the service anywhere.
Since your own military career was a bit lackluster (being kind here) you really aren’t one much to judge so far as military bearing or fitness to lead.
Badly coded ‘bot.
Would you agree that Officers serve at the pleasure of the President? If so, they can be dismissed at will regardless. If not, to whom do those Officers serve?
“They are not going to openly say it was because they were black and female”.
So essentially, you have no fookin clue who was fired or why. Yeahhhh tell me more about your illustrious career in MI.
“your illustrious career in MI”
I won’t say he is the cause of all those jokes about MI being an oxymoron, etc. since those have been around since before he was born (was his father in MI?) but he sure keeps them going.
Most of his time as an officer has been spent as a Civil Affairs officer.
“They are not going to openly say it was because they were black and female.”
The MSM has a perfect opportunity to frame the narrative that way: “An anonymous source told CNN that the SecDef, under Trump’s direction, to fire all senior officers who are capable of bearing children including those of color to adhere to the misogynistic and racist Executive Order that was secretly implemented when the President assumed his dictatorship last January.”
When it comes to a test of credibility between you and the media vs. the Trump administration (or just about anybody else) Trump wins, in spite of his obvious flaws.
Based on his work here, I find that …. amusing.
Reasons. Give me reasons. Quit half-assing it.
“Just off the top of my head I can think of….”
Yes, yes, we know. There are medications now that may help with your hallucinations.
Sorry, dude, Hegseth was confirmed Jan 24, the Signal chats were March 15. Whether he denies things like time/target info is classified or not, he was 100% on the job at the time and should recognize info that should be classified. If he doesn’t take heat for disclosing it, he should take heat for inability to recognize it.
Are you talking about Pete Hegseth or Hillary Clinton?
Come on, say who’s your daddy…
Its 47, right? Right…
So, he is effectively getting his presidentially assigned mission done, therefore must go? Seriously?
Sounds like Leftroid screams of despair.
Music to our ears.
And most important, he doesn’t wash his hands after using the bathroom!
Damn he steps on his dick way too often.
At least he has a dick.
You meant Hegseth, right?
In other words of questionable competence, apparently the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, had her purse stolen at a restaurant the other night. The thief got away with her access badge, $3K in cash (!), and other stuff:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/21/politics/homeland-security-kristi-noem-purse-stolen/index.html
I’d have thought she’d have personal security, no? It doesn’t state it, but I’d be shocked if not.
So if someone steals your purse you are incompetent as a cabinet secretary?
I wonder if you are literally on drugs at this point?
I guess I should’ve lost my clearance when my house was burglarized in 2010.
Don’t expect much analytical thought from these leftwing morons.
Most Left argument is
(Red faced with anger, twitching) “YOU! SHOULD!! BE! OUUu!U!TRRRRAAA!AAA!!!GE!!DDDDD!!!!” (Spit flies) “WHY?!ARE??!!!YOUNOT?!?ANGRY??!??YET!?!????”
I took more of a charitable read on this comment and figured LC meant “questionable competence” towards Ms. Noem’s SS detail.
But I could be wrong.
My reading was he thought she didn’t have security.
This well could be an act of espionage either private or state sponsored.
That’s what I suspected. A targeted attack.
Or a stupid, ballsy crackhead thief.
Less likely. A crackhead very likely wouldn’t have a mask on.
Purse snatchers rarely work indoors, especially alone. It is too easy to get cornered and caught and there are cameras everywhere. Sometimes they will work a very large building, like an airport or a concert hall where they can get lost in the crowd but a restaurant is a bad idea. Better to wait till the victim is outside, say getting into their vehicle.
Also that the phone was ditched right away instead of being wiped and traded to a dealer is a bit odd. It’s like they knew the phone was going to be a serious problem and got rid of it as soon as possible.
Yes, I was questioning the security — I wasn’t sure if she had SS, or private security, or both, really ..but I’m pretty damn sure that the Secretary of DHS would have some security in public given everything going on.
And whoever that was clearly fucked up. Professional thief or not, you should catch someone taking a purse from the principal.
Security was mostly likely watching the principal and ignoring the purse. Not so good.
If they were watching the principal then they do need to be fired. Unless they thought she was suicidal or something.
It’s a purse thing. Women leave their purses unattended quite frequently. I have cautioned at least one woman for leaving her open purse in a shopping cart while she wandered off down the aisle in a supermarket. I got a funny look, too, as if I was a thief.
Of course carrying $3,000 in cash plus other goodies in your purse and leaving it unattended may well be a sign of incompetence. She may have been raised in a rural or small town society where you could do things like leave your doors unlocked but she has been in the Big City long enough to know better.
The issue is not that her purse was unattended. It was that her purse was stolen from right under her seat with her security detail none the wiser, it seems.
Yes, you have a point. And since she had a security detail protecting her, she likely believed no one would be able to snatch her purse.
Other articles say the purse was on the floor at her feet and the thief was sitting close enough to a) spot a seriously pricey purse b) was able to scoot it from under her seat to under his. Her security was in the bar area while she was having dinner with family. I’m guessing their main focus was on people entering to identify possible threats, not on whether a purse below their line of vision was vulnerable.
Yep, their main focus was probably as it should have been, on the rest of the restaurant, not on her and her purse. If you watch the Secret Service detail guarding the President, they are looking outward, away from the President.
Sounds like these folks have not been around an alpha male in a long, long time.
Hmm, I wonder if Commissar was laid off or lost his job under Trump’s government rehab program.
Can’t lose what you don’t have.
Bet he got kicked off of some kind of handout program for liberals due to sudden lack of funding. Then he had to find a job which is why he has been so scarce. But he would have been fired by now for either his crazy politics or just sitting around not doing anything so here he is again.
He’s a white make, DEI wouldn’t have helped.
Paid protestors have lost a bit of funding too.
The Sorosbucks are drying up. He’s focused on Elon and Tesla.
At least the Tesla fire bombers are getting a free pass in Minnesota.
Actually, any firebombers of Tesla dealers will be federally prosecuted.
In other words, he got fired for the same reason(s) that Bernie Sanders got kicked out of the commune BITD.
Hard for me to care much about this right now. Can’t focus on anything other than the sound of my retirement funds screaming…
Thought about cooking a chuck roast for Easter dinner. $34 for a decent size at Walmart. Too rich for me.
Ahhh, but think of tomorrow’s meal. Like chili, pot roast tastes better on day 2 if allowed to steep in its own juices.
Some want fresh food everyday, but leftovers aren’t bad.
Leftovers? Between my brother and his son, there ain’t no such thing as leftovers! But you’re right, a stew the next day is comfort to the bone.
Spaghetti is better the next day, too.
Leftovers are great, but they still ain’t free.
2.4% inflation my ass.
Word.
I am putting as much as I can into my TSP. All C fund. Buy baby buy!
Focus, focus! Stop whatabouting (Hillary, Milley, the Easter Bunny) and focus on what we have here: SecDef personally set up a private group on a somewhat confidential chat and disclosed highly classified information (if you don’t think attack times aren’t, I invite you to strap on a jet and fly into Houthiland on a published schedule – pretty sure you will not want to do that) to people who not only had no need to know (brother, lawyer, aren’t even government employees (wife) or hold security clearances (any or all? TBD). This isn’t boys will be boys, this is the kind of thing that puts people in jail. Do the names Manning and Texeira ring a bell? In reality this demonstrates a pattern of negligence about classified information. Is it similar to what high rankers like Clinton, Biden, Trump, etc. did? Yes…and there were calls for SALL of them to be punished. Just because you like someone’s political party does NOT mean they get a free pass. And trying to lie about it (the Democrats are making up stories and it really is not classified anyway)….seriously? I raised toddlers with a better sense of responsibility.
Talk about what aboutism and false equivalency?
Manning stole thousands of documents off the SIPR and gave them to an organization backed by Russia dedicated to revealing government secrets.
Texeira was trying to impress his gammer bois by knowingly revealing classified information to unknown people all over the internets.
If you think those guys are the same you need to set your keyboard down and take a breath.
“Kind of thing” is the operative phrase – they are not the same but all three breached confidentiality and circulated classified info (no matter what Hegseth or Trump say) where it should not have gone.
Nah. Doesn’t matter how hard you try, Trump and his crew have a free pass from me.
I have never seen an administration as dedicated to the well being of America as these guys, so they have my wholehearted support.
Now if they start doing traitorous shit like the Biden and Obama administrations did, I will withdraw my support.
But we are nowhere near anything like that.
ah, Joe, you are the flip side of Commissar’s coin. So far I don’t particularly see much contributing to the well-being of the country. I see things they SAY should, but I am not seeing results.
You are not seeing results? Are you reading those leftist websites again?
“I am not seeing results.”
Trump has been in office approximately 92 days. Your expectations are just a bit unrealistic.
We knew it was gonna be a bumpy ride. The MIC will keep going after him.
Just so we are clear I’m not defending anything. But none of the released information was labeled any particular classification AND the POTUS has stated no classified information was released.
Now David, for very good reasons seems to believe that it maybe SHOULD have been classified and he has a strong point. I don’t even disagree with him on that although I don’t really agree either. Having worked in intelligence a long time I know that often times the whole story is a big unknown and making guesses you are almost certain to get it wrong.
Without more proof that ACTUAL classified information was released we are left with a big nothing burger and a really angry leftist media that wants to turn the largesse back on and get the gravy train running full steam back to the defense contractors.
Me:
Saying it was classified without proof that it was is merely speculation. Prove it and then we will have something to talk about.
When I see pallets of cash going to the mad mullahs, I will start to worry.
To me, there seems to be some question about the timing of the texting. I have not, and will not look it up, don’t have time, but some here have stayed it was BEFORE he was SECDEF / had his clearance, in which case the whole thing is bullshit.. others have said it was after those points, which does change things quite a bit.
The other thing is, apparently these are leaked claims by the leakers that were fired for previous bullshit, so unless the info has been verified, I don’t give a damn, seeing as how the source is a criminal with an age to grind…if that’s not the case, again, I will reevaluate my position.
From the article at the top of the post:
“The chat was set up during Hegseth’s tumultuous confirmation hearing process as a way for his closest allies to strategize, two of the people familiar with the matter said.”
Copy that, thank you. Then he wasn’t in the position, didn’t have a security clearance, and this is all deep state bullshit.
Media version or official Trump administration version? Not a tough choice—-I’ll go with the Hegseth version. For now, anyway. Someday the media may be more credible, but I doubt it.
Same play from the old Dem’s playbook, and they wonder why their approval rating is flirting with The Mendoza Line. Scream that the sky is falling EVERY fucking day. Rinse and repeat. The same bullshit with so-called ‘Maryland’ man from El Salvador that’s a made guy in MS-13. He’s here illegally, sells drugs, traffics humans, beats his wife, and sips margaritas with dumb-ass Dem Senators, and they’ll go to the mattresses for him despite being on the losing side of another issue. The Dems hate Pete because he comes from outside the DC Beltway which is EXACTLY what was 47 promised. I’m just waiting for this headline…
“What difference at this point does it make?!”
Well, that (tenure) didn’t take long.
Will it be an Apprentice TV show style “You’re FIRED” ??
Or….
A new appointment as Ambassador to (insert tiny country name) ??
(paste)
The White House has begun the process of looking for a new leader at the Pentagon to replace Pete Hegseth, according to a U.S. official who was not authorized to speak publicly.
This comes as Hegseth is again mired in controversy over sharing military operational details in a group chat.
The defense secretary is under fire after revelations that he shared classified information in a group chat with his wife, brother and lawyer, according to the official. (end paste)
Exclusive: The White House is looking to replace Pete Hegseth as defense secretary
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/21/nx-s1-5371312/trump-white-house-pete-hegseth-defense-department
White House says no https://twitchy.com/dougp/2025/04/21/trump-white-house-calls-fake-news-on-nprs-story-about-pete-hegseth-being-replaced-n2411703
SFC D,
Yes,
it’s flying both ways today. And it’s only Monday.
GOP Congressman Bacon jumped in today.
(paste) “If a Democrat did this we’d be demanding a scalp. I don’t like hypocrisy. We should be Americans first when it comes to security,” he added.
First House Republican calls for Pete Hegseth’s ousterhttps://www.axios.com/2025/04/21/don-bacon-pete-hegseth-signal
As always Republitards shooting in their own foot. Congresscritter Bacon is a fuckin retard that should know by now how the Left operates.
“If a Democrat did this we’d be demanding a scalp.”
Probably. Republicans are just as stupid as Democrats, which is why Trump is President and “Jeb!” (and the other Rep. Presidential wannabees) is an obscure political joke.
They would demand a scalp, but like the dog that caught the car it was chasing, they have no idea what to do with it.
Sounds to me like they are zeroing in on the mad leaker. One or two more phony leaks and they should get things plugged up.
Reading about all these leaks being mentioned, I think it’s time for a head call b4 i get the PC wet from an AD, Later Alligator.
NPR? Didn’t they get their funding cut, or heard talk about it?
Possible they may have an ax to grind and are trying to prove themselves as worthy candidates to be passengers on the gravy train.
Don’t anyone -dare- talk about Hegseth refocusing the DoD from Woke and Grift, to warfighting. No! Focus instead on mindless bullshit and “anonymous” said.
No one must point out how big a threat that Trump/Hegseth warfighter / war-winner change is to the Deep State /GloBullist traitor-schmucks who want us involved in every fucking war on earth, but do not ever, no not ever, must -never- end war by
Victory.
Two fucking decades of “is it exit strategy yet?”
More if you count most of 1946-2025.
Trump may well undo that. Very telling when other folks want to thwart that change. Whom do -they- serve?
CTH has an article today about France and the eu saying they will defend Ukraine, but it seems only if America provided boots on the ground to protect THEM.
Didn’t we inherit other wars from them? Or maybe even because of them.
Or maybe even career beaurocrats in deep state or MIC, who see their blank checks being taken away.