The Obama Surge a week later
Despite the Washington Post trying to equate the Obama Surge to the Bush Surge this morning, in ways that really matter, Obama is a far cry from Bush. Last week, Bush-sounding Obama announced an anemic introduction of 30,000 troops to the war in Afghanistan with a proviso that they’d begin withdrawing next year.
But yesterday, the Obama staff started backing away from the withdrawal (New York Times);
The Obama administration sent a forceful public message Sunday that American military forces could remain in Afghanistan for a long time, seeking to blunt criticism that President Obama had sent the wrong signal in his war-strategy speech last week by projecting July 2011 as the start of a withdrawal.
In a flurry of coordinated television interviews, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and other top administration officials said that any troop pullout beginning in July 2011 would be slow and that the Americans would only then be starting to transfer security responsibilities to Afghan forces under Mr. Obama’s new plan.
The television appearances by the senior members of Mr. Obama’s war council seemed to be part of a focused and determined effort to ease concerns about the president’s emphasis on setting a date for reducing America’s presence in Afghanistan after more than eight years of war.
And as commander-in-chief, I have determined that it is in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan.
After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home.
What? One squad at a time?
This strategy, for want of a better word, sprang from McChrystal’s briefing in June as reported by Gabriel Malor at Ace of Spades from a WaPo article last Saturday in which the National Security staff discovered what McChrystal envisioned as his mission;
His lean face, hovering on the screen at the end of the table, was replaced by a mission statement on a PowerPoint slide: “Defeat the Taliban. Secure the Population.”
“Is that really what you think your mission is?” one of the participants asked.
I’d be more interested in what the Obama thought McChrystal’s mission is. Gabriel Malor writes;
What is this bullshit? “Oh, I told him to kill the Taliban, but I didn’t think he’d take it so literally.” What. The. Fuck.
What could it possibly have meant except “kill the Taliban.” I mean, with Obama, you never know, maybe he meant “hug the Taliban.” But he wouldn’t use the military for that, he’d go himself, right?
So, you really have to wonder what is going on here. They didn’t know that McChrystal actually thought he should be killing Taliban and after telling America from West Point that the surge would end in 14 months, they’re saying that ‘no, it won’t’ now.
Whether you liked George Bush or not, when he told you he was going to do something, he did it and his plan didn’t change with news reports and public opinion polls. That, coupled with the devotion of the troops to the mission, is what won in Iraq. How can the troops win when the mission and the perception of the mission changes every-damn-day?
The troops are even fighting against Obama’s Ambassador to Afghanistan, Karl Eickenberry. In a phone conversation I had this morning, someone told me that the military officers in Afghanistan are calling my former platoon leader “Douchenberry” – I like that. We called him “Dingleberry” – so some things haven’t changed much in 34 years. But what does he expect when, as a politician, he undermines the military solution in public?
Our military wins when they’re given the equipment and political support for which they ask – when everyone understands the mission and the Administration stands fully behind them. I guess it’ll take a few years for that to happen, though. Say 2013.
Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Military issues
He will probably advocate pulling troops out the same way Westmoreland did Vietnam, when Westmoreland become Army Chief of Staff- pull out those with the most time in-country, thereby crippling the effectiveness of the troops left by stripping units of their most knowledgeable and experienced soldiers.
I did not think Westy had operational control over troops in Vietnam after he left their chain of command.
The left hate the surge, 0 troops for them. The right hate the surge, too little too late and a surrender date. The Taliban and AQ love the phony surge and the surrender date. Then President O’Dumbo can’t have us killing too many of his family members.
Our mistake was going into mooj territory conventional. They didn’t hit us conventionally. We made a mistake hitting them conventionally.
I’m glad Saddam was ripped off his perch. He dropped people into acid, and industrial plastic shredders. He maintained a *children’s prison*. i thought his execution was too dignified. so the USA i know and love did a good thing there.
but we fucked up there. i asked and asked during deployment: what is the mission? how will we know when we’ve won?
idealogically, these mooj fucks are unconquerable. they live in countries that are toilets. they were toilets a thousand years ago, they will be toilets a thousand years from now. i say not one american life to help/fight/prevent/destroy/rehabilitate/whatever the toiletmongers who are ideologically committed to living in a toilet.
fuck afghanistan. fuck iran. fuck russia. fuck china. when the DEW line lights off, salvo our entire inventory. sortee that whole fucking heminsphere.
i’m getting pretty fucking T1RED of this hippie “get on your knees and suck cock” foreign policy bullshit.
here’s a cartoon of muhammed fucking a goat
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Maybe it is because I am still in, but I think we need to get behind the president on Afghanistan. I sure as hell disagree with him on most other things, but lets face it-he did the right thing and sent more troops.
We can squabble about the timeline (which is being walked back as we speak) or the ROE (which sucks) and Pres Obama’s motivation on all this, but we need to start by realizing the miracle that a far left wing president, elected in part by the far left anti-war lobby, and in conjunction with a Democrat controlled Congress, green lighted the surge rather than announced the withdrawal we were all half expecting.
Ironically, if John McCain were pres right now, we would have riots in the street and votes to defund the war.
We veterans and those still serving need to get behind the president and support the troops by supporting the mission he just gave us.
You nailed it, Jonn. Every time that fool opens his pie hole, I become more embarrassed. This whole Administration would look like nothing more than a very badly written, too long episode of the Keystone Cops were it not for the damage he and those with him are doing to the Republic.
I can’t help but wonder if those who believed his pie in the sky BS and voted for him, or those who refused to vote for Maverick in protest of his RINO-ness, are realizing the enormity of their error yet.
I can only hope and pray.
David,
I admire your conviction. But I think Obama puts all of you at risk by not going balls to the wall for victory. He sorta reminds me of the Fonz, with the word “Sorry”- just change it to “victory” and without that, weakens the position of the US.
“idealogically, these mooj fucks are unconquerable. they live in countries that are toilets. they were toilets a thousand years ago, they will be toilets a thousand years from now. i say not one american life to help/fight/prevent/destroy/rehabilitate/whatever the toiletmongers who are ideologically committed to living in a toilet.”
Tired, I agree with you 100%
We are fighting the islamists in the wrong place using the wrong methods.
We beat the Soviets, yet lost out to the internal communist enemy, the Frankfurt school, Gramscians and the Saul Alinsky crowd. We’re doing the same thing with militant islam, instead of dealing with the ones in Dearbornistan and Northern Virginiastan, we’re chasing degenerates in Irak & Asscrackistan…
JuniorAG, your comments were well-written and insightful.
However, as a point of decorum, i would respectfully ask that you not say, think, or type the name saul “pigshit farmboi” alinsky in my immediate presence, which includes the entire planet. Thanks brau.
I’ll donate something to the troops in your name–some whiskey perhaps, or maybe a leatherman’s tool… oh! i know! a brace of 30 minute calling cards.
just, please dont inflict that douche name on me any more!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS
(not “happy holidays”)
t1red
Understood, Tired. Have a venomous hatred of anything commie my damned self.