Are FBI stats misleading?

| April 13, 2024

The Biden folks are touting huge decreases in crime since Joe took office, saying crime rates have dropped dramatically and of course Joe and his confused lot are responsible.

An independent group of law enforcement officials and analysts claim violent crime rates are much higher than figures reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in its 2023 violent crime statistics.

The Coalition for Law Order and Safety released its April 2024 report called “Assessing America’s Crime Crises: Trends, Causes, and Consequences,” and identified four potential causes for the increase in crime in most major cities across the U.S.: de-policing, de-carceration, de-prosecution and politicization of the criminal justice system.

Not exactly headline reasons there…but they also say the FBI’s stats are questionable?

The new report reveals three major findings: that the U.S. faces a public safety crisis beset by high crime and an increasingly dysfunctional justice system; that crime has risen dramatically over the past few years and may be worse than some official statistics claim; and that although preliminary 2023 FBI data shows a decline in many offenses, violent and serious crime remains heightened compared to 2019 data.

Through aggregated data sets directly from more than 70 of the nation’s largest police departments and victim surveys, researchers claim violent crime has been “substantially elevated in major cities” compared to pre-2020 levels. The group’s research also showed that due to significant under-reporting of certain crimes, the FBI’s official data doesn’t completely capture the full snapshot of crime in the U.S.

“There’s a series of caveats attached to the FBI data that the FBI doesn’t make as clear as they should,” Sean Kennedy, one of the lead researchers, told Fox News Digital in an interview.

…several police departments redefined the classifications for certain violent crimes and transitioned away from a decades-old recording system.

“If you classify something as an aggravated assault, it’s a violent crime or a felony, but if you classify it as a simple assault, it’s then a misdemeanor and a non-violent crime,” Kennedy said.

In 2019, 89% of municipal police departments – spanning about 97% of the population – submitted crime data to the FBI. To compensate for incomplete data, the FBI will fill in gaps using “inferred” statistics, the report notes.

However, by 2021, less than 63% of departments spanning across 65% of the population submitted crime data. Several big cities – Los Angeles, New York City, and Chicago – did not submit crime data at all to the FBI last year.  Fox News

So we went from guessing on 11% of our data to over a THIRD? The ‘several big cities’ you may note happen to be the three LARGEST cities, too.

Things may have changed from when I was in school, but seems to me when a third of your data is missing, what you have is a Wild Assed Guess (WAG), not a real statistic.

And now add in cashless bail, Soros prosecutors who only pursue a fraction of the cases that hit their offices… it ain’t purty.

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11B-Mailclerk

Stop counting and the numbers go down.

They used that on inflation, too.

Hack Stone

And the economy has never been better. 🥴

HT3

Its Garbage In Garbage Out…
Its the concept that flawed, biased or poor quality (“garbage”) information or input produces a result or output of similar (“garbage”) quality.

Wireman611

Lies, D@mn Lies and FBI Statistics…

26Limabeans

Lewis Erskine weeps.

5JC

In Chicago, murder was down 12% Major felonies were up 16%.

https://wirepoints.org/chicago-led-nation-in-homicides-for-12th-year-in-a-row-in-2023-murder-rate-still-5-times-higher-than-nycs-wirepoints/

That is in line with the national murder rate drop of 13%.

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rgr769

30,000 cars were jacked or stolen in Shotcago last year. Up 37%.

5JC

Let’s see here…. In 2023 a record number of police officers were shot. However, deaths from being shot were down. The increased use of body armor and greater availability of medical assets were most likely the reasons.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/record-breaking-378-officers-shot-line-of-duty-2023-fop-annual-report

Police killed record number of bad guys. This makes a lot of sense, because the police are more likely to survive the shooting, have better training, and often out number the criminal. Plus if a criminal shoots a cop he most often wants to escape. The police will come looking for him on the other hand.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/17/police-killings-record-2023/72174081007/

There was a sharp up tick of the number of police officers employed in 2022 (7%). The numbers are not yet in for 2023.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191694/number-of-law-enforcement-officers-in-the-us/status

Putting this data together, One could make assumptions, rightly or wrongly, that More bad guys self-selected to be killed by the police by shooting at the police. Because there were more police to shoot at. More bad guys killed by the police, resulted in a lower murder rate overall. Other criminals, who strive to avoid interaction with the police, continue to thrive.

Old tanker

Isn’t it funny how coincidentally several large blue cities in blue states did not participate in the crime survey and crime numbers “went down”…. Nah they wouldn’t be hiding bad news now would they?

Fyrfighter

Seems like the title is a set up for the response ” Does a bear shit in the woods?”

jeff LPH 3 63-66

The fbi, Being the new weaponized arm of bidens regime follows orders and keeps the crime down on paper

rgr769

Anyone here expect the fan belt inspectors to tell us the truth about anything?

KoB

There has been a decrease in the number of hangman’s nooses found at race tracks, so there is that.

rgr769

Since the alleged noose was really just a garage door pull down rope, zero minus zero is still zero. So there really has been no decrease. Admittedly, there was a loop tied in the end of that rope, but it was just large enough to put a hand into, not a head. The subject rope could be seen in several photos of that garage door from years prior to the one where Bubba whatisname was randomly assigned that garage at Talladega.

fm2176

The Uniform Crime Reporting Program (UCR) is only as effective as the data it gathers. If major cities don’t provide crime statistics, and/or redefine classifications, the data will be skewed. Of course, given the politization and weaponization of the DOJ in general, we can’t expect anything other than getting the narrative when it comes to anything the FBI releases. FJB is in charge, and dadgummit, we have a period of internal stability and low crime not to be seen under a rabble rouser like DJT.

Cops are disincentivized to enforce laws. A lot of minor traffic infractions (expired tags, inspection stickers, faulty equipment) that often lead to more serious charges (DUI, drug possession, outstanding warrants, etc.) now go unenforced. When the cops do their jobs, they know that there’s a good chance they’re risking themselves for nothing. Best case scenario is that they make a “good” arrest in a jurisdiction that has proactive and effective prosecutors and judges. In a lot of cities, though, it’s just as likely that their “good” arrest will result in the alleged criminal being released almost immediately. If any use of force is involved, the cop faces not only injury or death, but the prospect of losing their job, facing civil penalties, or being imprisoned themselves.

But yeah, I believe that crime is down. I really do [sarc off].

rgr769

I read that a number of cities’ crime statistics were not counted because the cities had not used some new form for reporting them to the FBI. If true, that also has had an impact on the numbers.

Blaster

Well,, no shit!

When you refuse to charge criminals for crimes, unless they are dumb asses trespassing on JAN 6!

Please excuse me. I usually attempt to watch my language (even in type)

A Proud Infidel®™

‘Several big cities – Los Angeles, New York City, and Chicago – did not submit crime data at all to the FBI last year.”

Mmmmmyeah, likely because doing so would completely skew that piece of propaganda that the Biden Clown Krewe released, something that would make Goebbels “cream his jeans”. How about the massive increase in crime and drugs coming from the ILLEGAL ALIENS that biden and Company continue to allow in carte blanche? The D-rats screech for MORE Gun Control while FENTANYL coming across the Border kills far more.

fm2176

Yeah, it strikes me as odd that these same big cities are Dem-controlled bastions of lawlessness.

Roh-Dog

Crime IS down, bigots!

You people are the number one threat to the homeland!

Maybe if all police where federalized to handle VDEs we could have our utopia.

(you-know-who things)

rgr769

Depends on which crimes. In looking at HeyJackass.com, I see Chicago homicides are down over the prior years. But carjackings have almost doubled since Mayor Brandon whosits took over from Lightfoot.

11B-Mailclerk

Meaning the thugs learned not to get bloodstains on their stolen rides.