Navy Recruiting Fails

| October 11, 2023


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Acting Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Lisa Franchetti

Navy misses active duty, reserve recruiting goals for 2023

By Diana Stancy Correll

The Navy missed its recruitment goals for active duty enlisted sailors by more than 7,450 accessions in fiscal year 2023, according to Navy Recruiting Command.

The Navy is one of the service branches that struggled with recruiting, which military leaders attribute to more thorough medical screenings, fewer Americans eligible to serve and low civilian unemployment.

The Navy announced Tuesday it recruited 30,236 new active duty sailors in fiscal 2023, falling short of the 37,700 target number accessions for the year.

Navy Times

Officer and enlisted reserve recruiting goals also were unmet. Last fiscal year the Navy met its active duty enlisted recruitment goals by depleting its Delayed Entry Program pool.

During her confirmation hearing before the Senate Armed Service committee Admiral Franchetti cautioned the service expected to miss its target numbers by some 7,000 recruits, which she further stated is much improved over the original estimate of ~13,000. So there’s that.

To turn the tide Big Navy has increased the maximum enlistment bonus and started initiative programs. These include The Future Sailor Preparatory Course to help potential recruits meet physical standards, and a pilot program that allows candidates who score between the 10th and 30th percentile on the Armed Forces Qualification Test to still join the Navy.

Franchetti insists these do not mean standards are dropping.

Category: Diversity, Government Incompetence, Navy, Points-and-Laughs

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AT1 ret

My son ran into nothing but lazy unconcerned recruiters cause they have no reason to try. Before you did your time and got back to the fleet and did good you got awards and possibly a promotion. The attitude now is put in 1 or 100 there are no bennies. So Navy recruiting has gone full Office Space. LOL, is it the AF or Army going to the same method? Just pile on the fail. Funny the only branch that did good was the only one we met that gave a fuck. If anyone got a POC for someone in NRC that might give a shit, I’d love to name names and offices.

e.conboy

Does everybody get a trophy too?

ChipNASA

I have an idea, bring back Rum, Sodomy & the Lash.
Problem solved.

Anonymous

That’d get Lars off our hands.

Green Thumb

That why Phil Monkress (CEO of All-Points Logistics) joined.

ChipNASA

Milk, Milk, Lemonade, Round the Corner, Fudge is Made.
Sorry, my 6 year old self rose up and couldn’t help but sieze the keyboard.

jeff LPH 3 63-66

I don’t know but during the time I served, their wasn’t any Manpower shortage or was it the draft we had
Gi beans Gi gravy Gi wished I joined the Navy, Hippo Hoppo wring out the moppo, your left your left your left right left,
eeenee meeenee mineee mo let me here that left foot go.
( left foot legging buckle not buckled so you get the noise from the loose buckle hitting the grinder)

Marine0331

I’m a Marine who served aboard the USS Inchon and the USS Nausau during my visits to Beirut and I gotta say, you squids ate fairly well as compared to Marine chow at Camp Geiger. I especially appreciated Mid-rats and breakfast as ordered on occasion. Yeah, try asking for eggs the way you wanted them at the Geiger chow hall…..LOL

26Limabeans

Best mess evah was Navy Camp Tien Sha in Danang.

Hack Stone

If you happen to be in the National Capital Region and have a military ID, give the Navy chow hall on Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling a shot. Great meals at reasonable price. The building is across the road from White House Communications Agency and next to Enterprise Hall, which really should be torn down an replaced. And while in the NCR, be sure to swing by the world corporate headquarters of a proud but humble woman owned business to pick up some Red Hat Software. Be sure to ask for Elaine Ricci to receive your 13% discount at checkout.

Green Thumb

Bolling used to be pretty bas ass too.

Green Thumb

*bad

jeff LPH 3 63-66

One Sunday morning aboard the Okinawa LPH 3, cookie asks me how I want the eggs so I tell him any way you want to make them so he breaks two eggs over the tray and everyone on the chow line starts laughing. When carrying Marines on board, they had their own chow line and ate better than us.

Claw

Jeff, how do you want your eggs?

8910-00-027-7260 Eggs, Whole, Dried
8910-00-127-8252 Eggs, Whole, Frozen
8910-00-222-0539 Eggs, Shell, Fresh, Large

MustangCPT

Cracked in a tall mug and mixed with Yuengling, tomato juice, Worcestershire sauce, and a dash of Tabasco. I had a rough one last night. 🤣🍺

Claw

I have the NSN for part of a Prairie Oyster:

8905-00-724-1935 Canned Oysters, 8 oz

I’ll leave it up to you to find the NSN for dirt. / s

Skivvy Stacker

You forgot the powdered milk.
Didn’t bother me at all..
I breast fed as a baby, and my mother had powdered breasts.

Marine0331

Can’t recall now if it was the Naussau or the Inchon, but on one of them we had Steak and Lobster on flight deck cookouts fairly often, courtesy of the Skipper. And if I recall correctly, there was no limit as to how many times you went back for more.

Marine0331

I do recall that we ate at a different time than the squids did except for mid-rats. And I don’t think you had to be going on or off watch to eat mid-rats. If you were up at that hour and wanted chow, they fed you.

e.conboy

You wuz the Manpower!

Slow Joe

Camp Arifjan had nice chow. Squids know how to live. Ali Al Salem was good too. Hard to pick between Air Force and Navy chow.

NHSparky

Hey cookie! What’s for dinner?

Cake or cock, and we’re all out of cake!!

cobrakai99

Gen Milley assured the 60 minutes bimbo that the recruitment issues are solely due to Trump forcing him to walk to church from the Whitehouse during the BLM riots. It has nothing to due with him or Biden administration policies. Especially not the perfectly awesome Afghanistan pull out.

Fyrfighter

Smiley is a delusional liar..

11B-Mailclerk

A pity his daddy didn’t pull out….

Anonymous

He’s finding out stuff in the world goes on without him in retirement right now– wife’s probably pissed off about this “Early Bird” thing he keeps yelling for.

Prior Service

A couple more trans sailors on digital recruiting duty might’ve gotten them over the hump. Of course they would all have proven unfit for service…eventually.

Green Thumb

Yep!

AW1 Rod

Fat, stupid LGBTQ fuck-ups and retards. The new DoD recruiting pool.

Forest Bondurant

Yeah, you’d think the way the media reports on how large the LGBTQRSTUV community is, as if 3 out of 5 people who live in this country are either gay, trans, or whatever.

(At least it seems that’s what they’re trying to make people believe.)

Given those numbers and the promises made by DoD, you’d think recruiters and OSOs would have exceeded their annual mission.

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Marine0331

At least she is a real woman!!

Blaster

Hubba Hubba!!! 😉

🤢🤮

Anonymous

Mrs. General Richardson is way hotter.
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fm2176

The JBM-HH Garrison Commander, back before I left in ’08. We TOG Soldiers were definitely “glad” to have her in command. Honestly, despite her being paraded along with another First, I’ve not heard anything too much about her recently. That’s a good thing in this day and age, especially for a 4-Star. For better or worse, though, she’s married to a now-retired 3-Star, so definitely off the market. 😊

Odie

You assume. May need a closer inspection 😎

Green Thumb

“During her confirmation hearing before the Senate Armed Service committee Admiral Franchetti cautioned the service expected to miss its target numbers by some 7,000 recruits…”

Nothing like hanging the problem (shortfall) on your predecessor while walking in the door.

Classy Officer.

SFC D

Should she have whitewashed the well-known, service-wide recruiting shortfall and told the committee everything was sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows?

Green Thumb

No.

But right off the bat and before confirmation?

She knows it a problem, Get it. But she does not want it laid at her doorstep.

SFC D

It was already on the doorstep when she was nominated. Better to acknowledge it up front.

Green Thumb

Good point.

timactual

“…she does not want it laid at her doorstep.”

Would you?

Odie

She’s just putting it out there that any current problems were there when she arrived.

If they don’t get better, then we can hang future failures on her.

MustangCPT

I am Evil Homer,
I am Evil Homer,
You don’t win friends with salad,
You don’t win friends with salad,

Then, after a few Yuenglings:

You don’t win friends with Homer,
I am Evil Salad!

Anonymous

Not all bad:

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HT3

“…who score between the 10th and 30th percentile on the Armed Forces Qualification Test to still join the Navy.”
Exactly how is that NOT lowering the standard? I went through the whole enlistment thing in 2020 with my son, and your overall ASVAB score is the percentile based on all the sections of the test.
I know kids aren’t learning how to read, write and do arithmetic in school, and it doesn’t mean that can’t. Is the Navy going to invest in uneducated kids and bring them up to acceptable levels? That will take time, but what other choices do they have? Enlistment bonuses is nice, but if you can’t finish A-School, you don’t get the bonus.

Hack Stone

Cat IV is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Applicants in this category qualify for zero technical billets. Hack understands that the Navy has “non-strikers”, which essentially means they do not have an MOS and spend their time scraping barnacles of of the ship hulls and toilets, but they Navy does need 35% of their manpower dedicated to accomplishing “look busy” work.

Just look back on your military career and think of the stupidest guys (and gals) that you had to deal with in your respective service. Now imagine tens of thousands of new recruits that are dumber than what you had to deal with. And these are the morons who will knock up their home town girlfriend, pump out a dozen kids, and finance their entire life through Devon Home Furniture. The E-7’s will be spending 95% of their time trying to unfuck this clown show. Zero return on investment.

NHSparky

A lot of them end up becoming E-7’s (or higher.)

When I was in recruiting, our Chief Recruiter told us he scored a 29 on the ASVAB. And he was PROUD of it.

Hack Stone

Reminds Hack of the Comm Chief giving a briefing for an upcoming exercise. He was reading from a paper:

Comm Chief: Division message traffic will take presidents.

Hack Stone: Precedence.

Comm Chief: What?

Hack Stone: Precedence. Division message traffic will take precedence, as in preceding. Coming before or having priority.

Comm Chief: (Looks at paper). There’s no “S” in there.

Hack Stone: You are right, Master Sergeant, there is no “S” in precedence.

True story.

Anonymous

Ah, Cat IV enlistees who got outscored by Koko the ASL-signing gorilla… y’all know the fun of that.

NHSparky

Don’t laugh, but we had a guy in my boot camp company back in the day that cut an 11.
Yeah, 11. Which translates to an IQ of about 70. Dude was literally from a family whose tree had no branches.

Hack Stone

And that man is now a Senior Executive at All Points Logistics.

Jay

Man, someone cuts a fucking TEN for an AFQT can join the Navy? The thing is written at a 10th grade reading level and they are dumbing it down to a TEN??? They really do want mouth breathing retards running the show, don’t they?

11B-Mailclerk

Ballast?

SFC D

Chum?

timactual

I’m right here, old friend.

MustangCPT

Never go shark fishing with a person who calls you chum.

Black Bart

I saw a guy in basic at Benning back in Aug, 2001 score a 12 on an APFT. A 12! Like 2 push-ups, 3 sit-ups, and a 2 mile run time of 22 mins. At the end he was up to the min to pass basic.

What was amazing was that he had a Ranger contract and was in JROC in high school, like he’d never heard that Rangers do a lot of PT.

11B-Mailclerk

We had a baby huey. Reception station was supposed to make sure everyone could do 10 push-ups before assignment to training. Else one went to a PT “fitness training” unit.

Well I watched huey try his heart out, bouncing lard for two minutes doing maybe one real one and lots of thrashing. He lasted two weeks with us. Was humiliated to be sent back to FTU.

Kid had heart.

Shortly before we graduated, he came to visit us. Had done well enough to drop like 50+ pounds, and could rip out 20 good ones,. Was recycled in a regular training unit and swore he was going to graduate. Wanted us to know it, not a quitter and no longer a slug.

Kid probably went far. He had heart.

fm2176

Damn it, you met me! Just kidding, I went through Sand Hill a few months later. Before enlisting, I laughed at the APFT standards. I’d run 5-minute miles in boots in high school and had been a mechanic for a few years with no small amount of strength. Problem was, I’d dropped out of high school over five years earlier, and strength doesn’t equate to endurance. I did something like 18 pushups, 13 sit-ups, and a 19:25 run. A few months later, I was at around 55 each for pushups and sit-ups and running low-13-minute two-milers. A few months after that I got over the mental block (I’d get to the minimum and gas out shortly after knowing I’d passed) and increased pushups and sit-ups to the low 80s, though my run time never got much faster.

The Option 40 (Ranger) kids, by and large, don’t know what they’re getting into. I’ve always had respect for young Soldiers wearing tan berets, and the “qualified vs. Regiment” argument, to me, is ridiculous. Ranger School is a tough course designed to hone leadership skills, but there are plenty of people who earn the Tab and go on to rear-echelon jobs where they’re treated like royalty. 75th Ranger Regiment admits only the most dedicated junior Soldiers and officers, and as an Infantry Regiment, naturally has some degree of attrition. A young SPC might have deployed with 75th two or three times, earning a CIB and Combat Scroll but never completing Ranger School and moving out to the regular force.

ninja

😉😎

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2banana

It will be like Agent Orange.

40 years from now, after most are dead, it will be a “presumptive” injury

Anonymous

Deny, deny, until vets die.

A Proud Infidel®™

The true motto of the VA.

2banana

These are absolutely HUGE MISSES.

Like something is really broken misses.

“The Navy announced Tuesday it recruited 30,236 new active duty sailors in fiscal 2023, falling short of the 37,700 target number accessions for the year. The service also recruited 1,948 Reserve enlisted personnel, down from its 3,000 goal.

The Navy also failed to meet its officer goals, recruiting only 2,080 new active duty officers rather than the 2,532 target, and 1,167 Reserve officers rather than the 1,940 troops target.”

Wilson

No matter how diligently they scrape the bottom of the barrel, they just can’t find enough warm bodies.

timactual

On a scale of 0 to 100 the Navy thinks 31-49 is “average”? Things are worse than you think.

11B-Mailclerk

That is the average of folks taking the test.

Lots of the top folks go elsewhere, bending the curve greatly. For example, college and ROTC get high-score folks who would otherwise enlist.

Lots of the bottom folks get dead or institutionalized or prison, thus shifting the curve a bit back up.

So on net, that looks about what I expect.

Hack Stone

Average does not necessarily mean qualified. In this instance, academic standards have been lowered to such substandard levels that here in Maryland you have entire graduating High School classes where not one student has met the minimum (note the word minimum) level for reading and math skills. So the average graduate is functionally illiterate. They can thank the Democrat Party and the Teachers Union for passing them along without the ability to support themselves.

Forest Bondurant

Remember this one?

“A Baltimore high school student failed all but 3 classes over four years and almost graduated near the top half of his class with a 0.13 GPA, according to a local report.”

Baltimore HS student fails all but 3 classes over 4 years, ranks near top half of class | Fox News

Hack Stone

The Democrat Party promoting Educational Genocide. Keep them ignorant and dependent on the government so that keep voting a straight Democrat ticket.

timactual

When I lived in Florida a few decades ago, there was a newspaper article about a high school senior who literally could not sign his own name–his lawyer had to do it for him.

timactual

“here in Maryland you have entire graduating High School classes where not one student has met the minimum…”

Ah, you heard about the Charm City school system. But things are much better in the more civilized parts of our fair state. At my local community college (Howard County) there are always something like 30 sections of remedial English (and about the same number of ESL) and a similar number of remedial math sections every semester. Because Howard County has, I am constantly told, exceptionally good schools.

MustangCPT

Has anyone here ever heard of anyone actually scoring a “0” on the AFQT/ASVAB?

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KoB

But but but but we were told that if we opened up the Services to all of the LBGTQLS/MFT peeps the ranks would be flooded with recruits. After all…diversity is our strength. One would be stupid NOT to join…or to send someone to join, after all, you got that good, readily available chow at all the locations, clean comfortable housing, no concerns about toxic chemicals in the water at installations, outstanding health care, both during and after your term of service, and die hard Patriotic leaders who put the needs of America FIRST (ht2 HS). Plus we are not at war anywhere in the world now. C’mon man! Push your kids…and your neighbor’s kids to join today!

Odd that Big Navy’s #s were so low. I mean, didn’t that latest Naval Aviation Documentary give a realistic picture of what an adventure that it would be. Don’t we have any true mavericks, ready to fly into a danger zone, cook a bad guy’s goose, all the while hanging out at the karoke club losing that lovin’ feelin’ for the girls beach volley ball team. Put any future plans on ice, man and JOIN UP TODAY.

You think Navy is losing today, just wait until December and see what THAT score is.

A Proud Infidel®™

And things like substandard housing and chow, black mold in barracks, NAAAAAAH, that shit never happens, or does it?

Hack Stone

So when the military funded sex reassignment surgery is completed, what does the DoD do with the “excess gear”. Do they send it the DRMO and it is sold at auction?

Forest Bondurant

I think it is repurposed.

So if you’re female and identify as a male, you get the replacement part that was taken off someone who transitioned the other way around.

Hack Stone

Does the armory inspect the weapon before reassigning it? How many Q-Tips and lube doe you need to rub on it before it passes inspection?

RGR 4-78

I could see where the porn industry could be interested in purchasing the leftovers as government surplus.

KoB

Jus’ sayin’…

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Anonymous

Be the first one on your block,
To have your boy come home in box!

MustangCPT

Here’s Dio in his band that ended up becoming the first iteration of Rainbow:

https://youtu.be/m1XrmD0uglk?si=1Hn4tt3P86onsMQn

Yes, he obviously was auditioning for his time as the lead singer for Black Sabbath. I really do love his version of this song on the “Live Evil” album with Sabbath. I think he has a far better voice than Ozzie and he’s the guy doing the bass solo in the middle of this version.

“Day of Judgment, God is calling…
On their knees the War Pigs crawling,
Begging mercies for their sins,
Satan laughing spreads his wings”

Oh, and apparently Miss Lindsey wants us to bomb Iran. Now, normally, I’d be down with that, but if Lindsey wants it, I don’t.

KoB

Tie Lindsey to the nosecone of a MMIII….or a -61.

BS …The original “Heavy Metal”. Showing your age, Pappy…and you’re younger than me. I gots BS and Rainbow on Polyvinyl Carbon Disc.

Mike B

Don’t know how it happened but when I was a young Buck Sergeant in the Air Force stationed in Germany, I had a “Wonder” Troop. Wondered how he got in.

This happened around mid to late 1991. He was prior Army (Don’t recall if it was AD, Guard or Reserves) and changed into the AF.

I was doing a Task Evaluation on him for the 30 day inspection of a BA-18 Backstyle Parachute. He was reading the steps from the Technical Order out loud, and couldn’t pronounce half the words. I thought he was joking, but after awhile I became concerned. Talked to our QA NCO, she sat in and listened, and she ended the Task Eval a few minutes later.

We had him tested and he could barely read. They put him in a reading comprehension course, but in the end he failed his 5 level Career Development Course End Of Course test twice and received a discharge.

So how the hell did this kid pass, or score high enough on the ASVAB, let alone pass Aircrew Life Support Technical School? I seem to recall his reading and comprehension was tested at a middle school level.

Mike
USAF Retired

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Odie

Gotta pass them, because holding them back a year would just reinforce his thinking that he can’t do anything right.

And then the real world hits him.

SFC D

I had a kid with raging Aspergers in 2010. Never should’ve made it past the recruiters, but somehow he got through MEPS, Basic, AIT, and deployed. He was back in 30 days for mental evaluations, command thought he was crazy. I was rear D 1SG, he became my little shadow. Troops started calling him Woodstock.

MustangCPT

Was this the two of you hanging out:

https://youtu.be/jFwW8RkqMqs?feature=shared

🤣

SFC D

Nah, little fucker couldn’t dance a step 😉

timactual

That reminded me of a guy in my platoon in Germany. I swear he was “retarded”—talked like it, even walked and moved like it, and of course acted like it. Originally National Guard but went active duty. He was SP4 and had absolutely no chance of making E5, although he thought he would. Not a bad guy, though, aside from his absolutely horrible taste in music. He pre-dated “McNamara’s Morons”, but he would have qualified. So I just Googled his name, not really expecting to find anything. It seems he might have made E5 after all, at least according to one site; probably a “tombstone” promotion— KIA 1 Oct., 1968.

Shit. My nostalgia keeps getting screwed up by reality. Those comfortable youthful memories of the old neighborhood interrupted by “Oh, yeah, the kid down the street, he grew up, became a Captain in the Engineers, and got killed in ’70 by a mortar round”, etc. Kind of takes the bloom off the rose.

Hack Stone

Way back in the day, circa 1983, Hack Stone had a new roommate at 3rd Amtracks who rotated back from Okinawa. The Comm Platoon Training NCO was rifling through everyone’s SRB, and put the word Hack’s new roommate had an GT score of 40. 40? Minimum for for the Marine Corps , if Hack recalls correctly, was 80. So one day Hack’s roommate was studying one of those Arco ASVAB study guides so he could retest and subsequently reenlist. Conversation went something like this:

Hack Stone’s Roommate: Stone, what is reaction when you heat up rote?

Hack Stone: What?

Hack Stone’s Roommate: What is reaction when you heat up rote?

Hack Stone: Let me see that. (Hack reads passage) That’s not rote, that is rod.

Hack Stone’s Roommate: What is rod?

Hack Stone: Rod, you know, a thin piece of metal. A rod. What’s your GT score?

Hack Stone’s Roommate: Below vegetable. (Said with thick Puerto Rican accent)

Hack Stone: How did you get in with such a low score?

Hack Stone’s Roommate: I don’t understand. I took test in New York and passed. I take test at Parris Island, and everyone start yelling at me.

This was back in the days when Recruiters would have ringers take the ASVAB.

5JC

Those days never ended.

NHSparky

Station Recruiter in Charge (RINC) got taken to mast for putting the SAME PERSON on deck as a ringer for kids who couldn’t pass at least four times.

His plea to the Captain? “I did it for the District!”

Nowhere else but recruiting did I ever meet a bigger group of soulless automatons with zero morals or ethics. More CPOs went to mast/court-martial in the 2.5 years I was there than I ever saw in my 10 years previous at commands 10 times the size.

Dennis - not chevy

I had a troop who failed out of tech school, so, they assigned her to my tech school. She failed out of that one too. She had been in so long she got promoted to A1C; yet she still hadn’t graduated any tech school. I went to the training group commander and recommended she be discharged. Nothing personal but toe nail clippings could have outscored her on the block exams.

Guess what, the A1C shows up on time for the appointment with the Commander. I recommend discharge. The Colonel looks at the young troop and tears me a new one. The A1C had dazzled him with squared corners and a snappy salute. The Colonel told me to take the A1C to (what was then) CBPO and find her an assignment that didn’t require a tech school.

So she went to work for my neighbor and after about a week, he never spoke to me again.

Mike B

I think my Wonder Troop left as an A1C. My dad also career Air Force would put CBPO on the daily sign out board.

Finally one of his troops asked why he was always at the Consolidated Base Personnel Office for lunch. My dad answered with what. Troop says the board always says you’re at CBPO for lunch. Dad goes it means Club, Bank, and Post Office. He was a smart ass.

During his annual records review, the admin girl asked his height. He said 5 foot 15, she goes wow I thought you’d be over 6 foot. Knowing he had a winner, when his birthday came up he said 32 February. She changed the 22 to 32 in his records. It stayed that way for 3 years before someone caught the errors.

We get some winners that is for sure.

Mike
USAF Retired

Dennis - not chevy

Commissary, BX & Post Office.

The one loser that came to mind was the rocket surgeon who was told to enlist because you have your babies for free. This was about 1990. This guy claimed to have an Associate’s degree; but appeared to have the reading ability of a box of instant pudding. He also had a pregnant wife.

When he found out the base where the tech school was located didn’t have a maternity ward, he tried to get discharged by failing on purpose. (The average co-pay at the local hospital was around $1K for delivery and post partum care.) He argued that another troop had been discharged for failing and he thought it was unfair that he couldn’t get discharged for failing. The troop that got discharged failed out in less than one month – this guy had been in school for about 4 months. I told him the Air Force was going to get its moneys worth out of him.

I didn’t want to keep him but the JAG office would not support an Article 15 nor a courts-martial for failing on purpose. So off he went into the wild blue yonder, another box of rocks to be someone else’s problem.

Mike B

WTF I type a long response and posted it. Went bsck and fixed a typo (Yeah I’m OCD on that). Hit save and it flagged it.

Something about waiting for approval and my post being spam…..

Mike
USAF Retired

Hack Stone

They need to install that Y3K software. Be sure to get the deluxe edition with the rustproof undercoating.

MSG Eric

Too many dumbasses in charge and not enough incentive to serve when they can get an “easier” job for more money in their pockets on the civilian side.

Trent

The Navy has physical fitness standards?

Back in 1985 I witnessed a 300 pound Senior Chief run the Navy 1.5 mile run backwards and beat every man in his division.

That’s not a standard to aspire to.

W2

Just what we need, more rocks.

11B-Mailclerk

So the videos by Cher and The Village People didn’t help?

They are almost bitterly ironic now, eh?

Hack Stone

Get with the 21st Century. Today you need Transgender Digital Ambassadors to make mission. Has Naval Recruiting Command surveyed those that did enlist to get the numbers on how many enlistments could be attributed to that Sailor?

Charles

Look up “Project 100,000”.

LINK: Project 100,000 – Wikipedia

Hint: as the article recites: Project 100,000, also known as McNamara’s 100,000McNamara’s FollyMcNamara’s Morons, and McNamara’s Misfits, was a controversial 1960s program by the (DoD) to recruit soldiers who would previously have been below military mental or medical standards.

Those of us who served in 1970 remember them well.

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SFC D

It’s not just 1970. I had a PSG in 1989 that came out of that lovely experiment. Dumbest human being I’ve ever encountered.

Anonymous

NHSparky

Navy Nukes can get a $75k ENLISTMENT bonus PLUS a $65k student loan repayment program. That’s not including the multiple reenlistment opportunities to make an additional $100k a crack. And there might also be GI Bill money on top of all that.
And yet they still can’t make goal. Something tells me it ain’t the money.

MarineDad61

[Military obesity rates soar, compounding recruitment challenges
Services still struggling to find eligible applicants who meet the physical requirements for enlistment]

https://rollcall.com/2023/10/18/military-obesity-rates-soar-compounding-recruitment-challenges/