Jamail and Vasquez; why stop lying now?
This is a real smoldering turd of a video starring TSO’s favorite journalist, Dahr Jamail, and my new penpal, Jose Vasquez, the Executive Director of Iraq Veterans Against the War. To Vasquez’ credit, when the reporter introduces him as an Iraq veteran, he admits that he never served in the war. Like Carl Webb, Matthis Chiroux and and endless list of (IV)AW members who aren’t Iraqi Veterans. But certainly we can understand her confusion – he’s wearing a T-shirt that says “Iraq Veterans” and he’s the Executive Director of an organization that calls itself “Iraq Veterans Against the War”. Many of us would automatically think he’s an Iraq veteran.
The video is 14 minutes long, and I’ve watched it five times, so you don’t have to;
To begin with, Jamail states that there have been 50,000 soldiers who have deserted since 2001. To understand the statement, you first have to understand the terms. A soldier has to be Absent Without Leave (AWOL) for 30 days before he’s considered a deserter. LTC Nathan Banks, our new friend at the Army’s Pentagon Public Affairs Office claims that they have apprehended 29,926 deserters since 2001 and that there are 2442 outstanding warrants.
So how does that compare with peacetime years;
There were 3687 desertions in 2000 which was .7% of the total force. In 2007, 4698 desertions which was .9% of the force – statistically, yes desertions were on the rise in 2007, a minuscule number when we’re talking about more than a half million people. In 2006, it was .6% (one of the bloodiest years in Iraq) and in 2003, (when the Iraq began) it was .5%. We haven’t seen the data for 2008 and 2009 yet. The fact remains that over 99% of the total force don’t desert, so I don’t know what Jamail is trying to say.
Jamail claims that the military is taking steps to prevent dissent in their ranks. “They” stopped the draft. Um, “they” didn’t stop the draft, it was ended decades ago, not part of some Bush conspiracy. He also claims that the military is blocking access to social networking media (Facebook, Twitter, etc…). That’s just false. The military is blocking access to social media ON THEIR OWN internet access points – just like every other employer. Doesn’t it make sense that only military business is conducted on military computers? Soldiers are still able to use those media on their own computers.
Vasquez claims that the only people who can’t find jobs are joining the military. The proof of that is National Guard recruiters at his college – I guess that’s why I was involved in recruiting on campus back in 1988. It was just a Bush plot for this war. I guess recruiters should recruit in nursing homes and not among the their target market. More than likely, the people who volunteer to go in the Army are the types of motivated people that any employer would love to have in their business rather than some slovenly, shitdick peacenik. Jose says it’s because recruiters know the economy is bad – or maybe they know where to find smart, motivated recruits.
Retention and recruiting has been successful through out the period since 9-11-01. All of the branches of service have met their goals nearly every year of the Bush boom. Yes, the economy has some effect periodically, but there’s no real evidence that the troops are reenlisting and joining JUST because of the economy. Vasquez makes it sound like they have no choice but to die for their country, for Pete’s sake.
Vasquez continues the myth that Pat Tilman was killed by some government plot to silence his dissent against the war. In other words, he thinks that the soldiers he says that he loves so much would treacherously kill one of their own on the order of Darth Cheney. Way to support the troops, there, Jose.
Vasquez also claims that in his 14 years in the Army Reserves, he never got any counter-terrorism training. He was a medic. What part of his job would change in a counter-terrorism environment? Think they have some ninja bandaids or self-propelled stretchers for terrorist operations?
Vasquez, Chiroux, Webb all had no problem drawing their paychecks until they were about to be deployed to war – yet we’re supposed to believe that their motivations were completely altruistic. I’ve told Vasquez that if he was as truly dedicated to his military profession as he’s claimed, the politics wouldn’t have prevented him from deploying and doing his job as a medic.
Vasquez was a medic, Chiroux was a journalist, Webb was a generator operator, Agosto and Bishop repaired radios, Andre Shepherd handed out volleyballs in Iraq because he was too incompetent to repair Apaches. I’m just sayin’….
Jamail claims that because he found some soldiers five years ago that sandbagged on their patrols in Iraq (Jamail uses the “Search and Avoid” term from Vietnam), he claims avoidance of their duties is “widespread” throughout the military. I’d like to see some proof of that – proof beyond a few IVAW members who claim it. We’ve already seen how he falsifies the desertion rates to suit his reportage, we have to assume he does the same in this instance.
By the way, one of Jamail sources in his book for the origins of sandbagged patrols is Geoff “Stolen Valor” Millard.
Jamail also claims that new Private Travis Bishop was jailed for “resisting” despite the fact that he filed for conscientious objector status. He fails to mention that Bishop went AWOL for a week before he filed for CO – that’s why he got a year in jail.
So there’s your introduction to the “new” (IV)AW Executive Director. Pretty much the same as the old director. Still willing to smear the troops, still advocating for desertion, still just another (IV)AW member who hasn’t been to Iraq, yet wears the T-shirt.
Category: Antiwar crowd, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Phony soldiers, Usual Suspects
Saying recruiting and retention have been successful every year based on the fact that raw numbers have been met is a little misleading as it give the impression that the military is (or more appropriately, was) not having problems meeting those goals. The reality lies somewhere in between the claim that there have been no problems and the claim that there are nothing but problems.
During the Bush years, David Chu, the Undersecretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness, complained of the fact that the raw goals were being met at the expense of both quality of enlistments and critical MOS’s. They were stuffing lower quality enlistees into non-critical and overstaffed specialty fields. I saw this myself when my former CO in 2007 coined the term “Operation ThunderCat” because MCRC was allowing an unprecedented number of Cat IV waivers (commonly known as ASVAB waivers) to enlist in the Marines. The motivation was purely to meet the FY’s initial assessment goal.
The reality is that a poor economy allows the military to be more selective. There is already anecdotal evidence that enlistment ages are rising, along with the average education of enlistees. Competition for highly technical fields is also more fierce. I suspect that in a few years we will be able to see actual data illustrating a positive correlation between the recession and the quality of initial enlistments. Of course, this principle is true of both the public and private sector.
Even so, I’d say that the notion that the military is choosing between highly motivated people and slovenly peaceniks is more than a little hyperbolic.
Actually, I said that civilian employers would rather have folks who lean towards the military than slovenly hippies. And hyperbole was what I reaching for, so I’m glad that came through.
“Chiroux was a journalist” who never left Bagram and accompanied troops in the field like real 46Qs do.
“The reality is that a poor economy allows the military to be more selective.” Spot on, we’re actually weeding people out. If you’re an NCO with any black marks these days, you are history.
“So there’s your introduction to the “new” (IV)AW Executive Director. Pretty much the same as the old director. Still willing to smear the troops, still advocating for desertion, still just another (IV)AW member who hasn’t been to Iraq, yet wears the T-shirt.”
“. . .Meet the new boss,
Same as the old boss. . . .”
(The Who)
On the last post on Jose I remember some discussion on what a medic does, there being some reference to what medics did during one of the old timers stints. I saw this in a NY Times article (I know, not your favorite, but still a point to consider) about women serving in Iraq:
“I did everything there,” Ms. Alfaro, 25, said of her time in Iraq. “I gunned. I drove. I ran as a truck commander. And underneath it all, I was a medic.”
I am sure not every medic does this, but it seems safe to say that this war has expanded the boundaries of every MOS. It seems feasible that they operate with possibility to do more rather than being restricted to doing less, especially if women are doing this. Unless of course the women are just so high speed……
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/us/16women.html
Jen,
What actual medics do in a combat zone is irrelevant to any discussion of Vasquez as he never deployed.
C’mon now John, you have to be impressed with the foresight of not requiring Iraq Veterans Against the War to be actual Iraq vets. Now that Iraq is winding down and Afghan is cranking up, it would be pretty darn inconvenient for an anti-war group to be stuck with only Iraq War vets. All the hot chicks will be protesting the Afghan War this year, and they don’t want to be left out.
Just like Al Gore and climate change, it’s easier to be anti vague concepts then specific ones. The earth is warming? Cooling? Doesn’t matter, we are against climate change.
Search and avoid is an interesting term, as far as I know it didn’t happen until the end. Everybody pretty much knew it was a done deal by then, even the RVN, poor basitds, no sense being the last one down. Although the RVN fought till the last bullet, until Teddy (PBOH) and the rest of the majority cut them off. Tough to fight with no beans and bullets.
The seminal change in the military is unrecognized by most on the left today, the level of professionalism and dedication is unmatched by the father rapers and mother stabbers of my day. My only hope is that the young folks in Afghanistan today recognize the end too. Stay Safe and come home.
We had one medic at least in every patrol we ran. Their primary mission was medic, so they were not up in the gunner’s hatch, nor did they TC a 1025. They were trained, just like everyone else, to be able to do every job on the truck. If needed, they could have driven, TCd, or gunned…but their primary job was medic.
Every joe in my team was CLS qualified. Every truck had an aide bag. Anyone of us could have patched the others up at any time…and did.
I also learned the jobs of others, just in case and I was a lab tech. You do what you have to do.
Vasquez…still a buddy fucker.
um, Chris, the argument was that medics only “medicate” and don’t actually fight, which was used as justification for saying Jose should have deployed anyway because he would not have been asked to do anything a CO would be against. my point was that medics do other things, so that isn’t a valid point.
a person can have other points to make. jose was given orders and left NY and began processing for deployment. he didn’t run from it. I know that won’t quelch other concerns, but I think questioning his CO status is not a strong argument to lean on.
no one is going to change anyones mind here on the overall point.
I bring up his near deployment not to discuss the merits of it but just to say its not a simple case of just not being called up to go- he could have gone if he hadn’t applied for CO. any discussion of his lack of iraq deployment has included some judgement of the reasons why. those judgements should bear little influence on anyones secondary opinion of IVAW having an ED who wasn’t deployed.
Jen, if Jose was the Executive Director of Veterans For Peace, it wouldn’t be an issue. However, he’s the Executive Director of IRAQ VETERANS Against the War.
If I was the Executive Director of the Silver Spring Knitting Circle, you’d probably expect that I had been in Silver Spring at some time, wouldn’t you?
But of course you don’t see anything wrong with it because you’re being advised by former Vietnam Veterans Against the War members who never went to Vietnam like Ward Reilly and Doug Zachary.
My last MOS was 91C—Practical Nurse or 91W (Health Care Specialist)
http://www.armymedicine.army.mil/about/tl/facts91w.html
Prove it, Webb.
But that was changed to 68W in late 2006.
Webb sent me yet another friends request on Facebook. Don’t you get it fuck-face? I am done with all that shit and your sorry ass too.
John,
I’m not saying that information is going to change the end result of the discussion, just some of the reasons used to support it.
The Board Chair is supposed to rep the org, not the ED. IVAW isn’t much better off there either though.