OPSEC means nothing when you have an Internet argument to win

| June 6, 2022

War Thunder is a popular online video game that allows you to take to the battlefield in modern or vintage war machines. It is part of a new series of games that try to base themselves more in reality. Ever wonder what a Wehrmacht Tiger II would do against a British Challenger MBT? Now you can find out. Would a single F-14 be able to take on a flight of Spitfires? These are the questions that are really burning in peoples’ minds.

Part of that grounding in reality has led, now multiple times, to the public release of classified information on front line weapons systems. All apparently in either an effort to settle an online bet or to make their virtual tanks and weapons systems as good as the one they play with in real life for a living.

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Fans of the free-to-play military video game “War Thunder” are so passionate about the game that they’ve taken to sharing actual classified schematics for real-life military vehicles in an effort to win arguments with complete strangers online.

If three make a trend, well, this is a trend. Because now there is another instance of someone apparently leaking classified military documents to make sure that their tank video game more accurately conforms with reality.

The popular armored combat simulator features modern land, air, and sea craft, and has a devoted following of roughly 50,000 players. And some of them seemingly can’t help themselves from leaking classified military data to make the gaming experience more accurate.

The latest incident, first reported by the OSINTtechnical Twitter account, involves information in Mandarin on the penetrator section of a Chinese tank round along with a technical diagram.

While many of the original images have been taken down, they were essentially the schematics for a Chinese tank munition, presumably revealed to the world so a video game could more accurately depict what would happen if a Chinese tank and an American tank — or British, French, Russian, German or Israeli tank — met in combat.

And this isn’t the first time these forums have become an outlet for technical leaks.

Back in July 2021, someone who very possibly could have been a commander in the Royal Tank Regiment of the United Kingdom, uploaded some documents to the “War Thunder” forums detailing the technical specifications of Britain’s Challenger 2 tank. Presumably, this was in an effort to prove that the game had gotten details wrong about the tank.

Now, the company that makes the game obviously rebukes any attempts to win an online argument by leaking classified military data.

“We have written confirmation from [the Ministry of Defence] that this document remains classified. By continuing to disseminate it you are in violation of the Official Secrets Act as stated by the warning on the cover of the document, an offense which can carry up to a 14-year prison sentence if prosecuted. Of this you are already aware, as a service person you have signed a declaration that you understand the act and what actions it compels you to take,” wrote a message board moderator after the 2021 incident.

That, unfortunately, did not stop the gaming community from their eternal quest of proving someone else wrong on the internet.

A few months later, there was a second leak, this time because it was extremely important to someone out there that the French LeClerc Main Battle Tank have a more accurate depiction in a video game where people wage simulated war.

The most recent leak, the latest leak, from someone with access to the latest technical manuals from China’s People’s Liberation Army, occurred because a user wanted the game’s Chinese battle tanks to have better in-game stats. While most of the information about the Chinese tank round was already known, it was still apparently more important for one gamer to prove another gamer wrong on a message board than it was to consider the implications of publishing the technical details of military munitions online.

The video game developer, Gaijin Entertainment, banned the user, telling Kotaku that, “Our community managers immediately banned the user and deleted his post, as the information on this particular shell is still classified in China. Publishing classified information on any vehicle of any nation at War Thunder forums is clearly prohibited, and the game developers never use it in their work.”

So while war may be hell, winning an argument online is apparently the most intense combat of all. And the gaming forums seem to be determined to explicitly detail just how bad that hell is. Which might just make a message board for a video game about tanks engaging in armored combat one of the leading distributors of operational security (OPSEC) violations.

Maybe the next iteration of “War Thunder” can explore some of the more intimate details of what it’s like to spend, oh, 36 hours straight in the cramped confines of a tank with three other people. That’d certainly add a layer of realism to the game.

Three times. This is why we have a daily safety brief, people. Shit like this is what makes a first sergeant salivate so he can “piggyback on what the commander was saying.”

 

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Sapper3307

Looked like this?

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FuzeVT

I, for one, think all Chinese designs in that game a way over powered. If you folks from China don’t think so, then you better keep posting classified documents to prove your case. Especially about those high tech stealth fighters.

MI Ranger

I totally agree FuzeVT, they have the J-20 able to pull 5G turns and fly at Mach 1.5; heck even the FC-31 is supposed to be able to carry like 800lbs worth of bombs. If their Yilong-2 wasn’t such a piece of Vaporware I would even doubt that it could fly over 40,000ft (AGL) but there isn’t even any reason to question something so obviously false!

SFC D

But does it have a problem with its inverted flight tanks? Can it do a negative-G pushover?

Anonymous

You see, we were inverted…

MCPO USN

Do all the game players have to be vaxxed and show their COVID card to play, like real military folk? Are their safety standdowns during the fight? Do women soldiers get out of battle for being pregnant? If not the game is not based on reality so why share real secrets?

Hack Stone

Dat’s a good one!

A Proud Infidel®™

DO THEY get forbidden from further participation until their SHARP and Diversity Training is done?

Green Thumb

Fucking nerds.

While these losers were playing “hero”, I was out drinking beer, shooting pool and chasing quiff.

AZRobert

Can’t wait for the new Nuclear Thunder game to be released in the fall, heard glowing reports from former gamers.

SKYJUMPER

AZRobert….

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SFC D

I’d like to file a complaint with the management. My rights are being violated, as I’m only allowed one vote on this post. That’s un-democrat-ic, suppressive, oppressive, un-woke, and just plain mean! Help me AOC, save me Nanny Lugosi, rescue me Fauxcahontas!

SFC D

Hack Stone

Can’t you just vote multiple times, and when caught, just state that you were submitting the votes for your grandparents because they have trouble navigating this thing called the innerwebz?

SKYJUMPER

SFC D, I just “up-voted” your complaint about not being able to up-vote more than once. Heyyyyy, I just tried to up-vote my own comment and was denied!!! VOTER SUPPRESSION!! LMAO (smile)

AW1Ed

Your complaint has been noted, SFC D, and passed along to our crack mediation team at TAH WWHQ. I would expect resolution within the decade.
Have a TAH day!

USAFRetired

A schematic, or a mechanical drawing?

11B-Mailclerk

You mean the site isn’t an intel effort to bait loudmouths into boasting classified stuff?

SidneyBroadshead

War Thunder is made by Gaijin Entertainment, a Hungarian video game developer. Their fans are just that kind of fanatic. Trolls need to win and sometimes they go too far. And that’s just videogame hobbyists.

Old-school “analog” wargamers that use lead soldiers (like H.G. Wells’ Little Wars rules) or play cardboard chit boardgames (like anything by Avalon Hill or SPI) are way worse with their bickering. They’ve read books and articles on history and military science and argue about everything.

Hack Stone

Just glad that Jonn had the foresight to make evreyone sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement before allowing them to post on here. Hack Stone Tempest proofed the laptop that Elaine Ricci issued him by wrapping it in generic cling wrap. Would have used aluminum foil, but Psaul used it all up making his own smoking pipes.

KoB

“This is no shit! There I was with nothing but a 6 meg modem between me and the dood with a 60 meg connection when all of a sudden, out of nowhere, came an ASE LGX System pumping out giga bits. Fried and toasty before I could run up a firewall.” War is Hell.