Regarding Censors
There are three arguments against Facebook here. They all involve censorship by Facebook, but who is directing the censoring in the first place?
Here are three examples of what Facebook disapproves of.
This article from KMBC News shows specifically that Facebook removed Rep. Roger Marshall’s post on CDC data post on Covid19 mortality rates. I’m posting the entire Twitter output in this case.
SPOKE WITH CONGRESSMAN ROGER MARSHALL ABOUT HIS VACCINE PREDICTIONS. MICHEAL: AT A CAMPAIGN STOP TUESDAY, MARSHALL REPEATED HIS PREDICTION THERE COULD B A COVID-19 VACCINE FOR HIGH RISK PEOPLE BY LATE THIS YEAR. THEN, HE WENT FURTHER. >> WE WILL HAVE A VACCINE AVAILABLE FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE BY THANKSGIVING. A VACCINE FOR WHOEVER WANTS IT BY THE END OF DECEMBER. MICHEAL: THAT’S A VERY OPTIMISTIC PREDICTION. ONE OF THE CO-LEADERS OF THE WHITE HOUSE DRIVE TO GET A VACCINE, MONCEF SLAUOI, TOLD BUSINESS INSIDER MAGAZINE RECENTLY A VACCINE SHOULD BE WIDELY AVAILABLE BY NEXT SPRING. BUT ADDS SOME HIGH RISK GROUPS COULD SEE A VACCINE EARLIER. >> WE ARE WINNING THE WAR ON THIS VIRUS. MICHEAL: MARSHALL IS A DOCTOR, AN OB-GYN. INFECTIOUS DISEASES, HOWEVER, ARE NOT HIS SPECIALTY. HE SAYS AT LEAST 3 FIRMS ARE IN THE CLINICAL TESTING PHASE, OR CLOSE TO IT. HE BELIEVES THEY WILL DEVELOP A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE VACCINE. >> THANKS, GOD, FOR AMERICAN INGENUITY. FOR PRIVATE FIRMS OUT THERE WORKING SO HARD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. MICHEAL: SO MARSHALL IS GETTING MORE SPECIFIC. AT FIRST, HE WAS SAYING THERE WOULD BE A VACCINE FOR HIGH RISK GROUPS BY THANKSGIVING TIME. NOW IT’S A VACCINE FOR EVERYO
KANSAS CITY, Mo. —
A Facebook post published on Sunday afternoon by U.S. Rep. Roger Marshall, talking about updated COVID-19 death data released by the CDC, was removed Monday night by Facebook without notice or explanation.
Marshall’s post dealt with the new data published by the CDC showing that only 6% of deaths were due solely to COVID-19, while the remaining 94% of deaths had two or more underlying health conditions.
“Social media companies should be not allowed to censor science that they disagree with. This is corporate censorship, pure and simple,” Marshall said in a news release. “As a physician, I believe in discussing all data, options, and research with my patients. This was data published by the CDC, but unfortunately did not fit the narrative that the left and the liberal media want us to believe. We cannot allow social media companies to determine what we do and not learn about this virus. Americans deserve to be informed.”
Marshall’s office provided a screenshot of the Facebook post that was removed.
Roger Marshall/Facebook
Before being deleted by Facebook, Marshall’s office said the post had almost 80,000 views and had been shared by thousands of followers.
A second example is Skippy’s attempt to post this meme image on Facebook, after posting something re: the rioters in Wisconsin the day before. Skippy is now in Facebook’s disfavored group, blocked from using it.
The third rebuttal to Facebook’s censorship is from the article I posted yesterday, with the twits at a gas station trying to block someone from going to the pumps to refill his gas tank.
The individual who posted that gas station incident as a video on a channel that he set up on YouTube (NottheBee) did so because he was blocked by Facebook from posting it there, and that was without any explanation on their part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umfSM-mOdQg
The article he wrote is here: https://notthebee.com/article/no-matter-how-many-times-i-watch-this-video-i-still-cant-believe-its-not-satire
When he found that he, like Skippy and Rep. Marshall, was not welcome at Facebook, he started his own blog space (notthebee.com, link above) and his own Youtube channel, so that his 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech was no longer impaired by the self-appointed censors of 21st century America.
However, it happens that prior to Skippy’s 2nd post being blocked, Farcebook had earlier published a similar post Skippy had submitted which appeared to support BLM. This needs to be brought to more than just public attention.
It is apparent, mostly because Facebook’s editorial “staff” seems to forget those annoying old parts about Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press, that the FB company has been slogging its way into becoming a publishing company that doesn’t want things posted that upset its view of what’s proper / improper to publish. Or maybe they reached that point a long time ago and just didn’t say so. They have become self-appointed censors in a publicly-owned company.
The only reason I bring this up is that Henry Miller’s hardcore porn novels (really, they’re just trash) were only published and sold in Europe after World War I. He spent a good deal of his time in Paris and in Greece from 1928 through the 1930s, and returned to the USA when war broke out again. If you want some brilliant writing, get a copy of ‘Colossus of Maroussi’. I have always thought his non-fiction was far better than his fiction, but that’s just me.
I have to include D.H. Lawrence, who wrote the infamous “Lady Chatterley’s Lover”. Again, that was deemed unpublishable in the USA , not because it violated anything in the US Constitution or general US laws, but because, as with Henry Miller’s novels such as “Tropic of Cancer”, it was viewed as pornography, and therefore obscene, by the censors of the time, under the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.
From Wiki: Lady Chatterley’s Lover was banned for obscenity in the United States in 1929. In 1930, Senator Bronson Cutting proposed an amendment to the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act, which was then being debated, ending the practice of having United States Customs censor allegedly obscene imported books. Senator Reed Smoot vigorously opposed such an amendment, threatening to publicly read indecent passages of imported books in front of the Senate. Although he never followed through, he included Lady Chatterley’s Lover as an example of an obscene book that must not reach domestic audiences, declaring “I’ve not taken ten minutes on Lady Chatterley’s Lover, outside of looking at its opening pages. It is most damnable! It is written by a man with a diseased mind and a soul so black that he would obscure even the darkness of hell!”[20]
A 1955 French film version based on the novel and released by Kingsley Pictures was the subject of attempted censorship in New York in 1959 on the grounds that it promoted adultery. The US Supreme Court held on 29 June 1959 that the law prohibiting its showing was a violation of the First Amendment’s protection of free speech.
The ban on Lady Chatterley’s Lover, Tropic of Cancer, and Fanny Hill was fought and overturned in court with assistance by publisher Barney Rosset and lawyer Charles Rembar in 1959.[23] It was then published by Rosset’s Grove Press, with the complete opinion by United States Court of Appeals Judge Frederick van Pelt Bryan, which first established the standard of “redeeming social or literary value” as a defence against obscenity charges. Fred Kaplan of The New York Times stated the overturning of the obscenity laws “set off an explosion of free speech“.
Susan Sontag, in a 1961 essay in The Supplement to the Columbia Spectator that was republished in Against Interpretation (1966), dismissed Lady Chatterley’s Lover as a “sexually reactionary” book, and suggested that the importance given to vindicating it showed that the United States was “plainly at a very elementary stage of sexual maturity.”
Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Chatterley_ 27s_Lover#United_States
In regard to pornography and its offshoots, no one is forced to read, look at, or own that crap, period. Barring Miller’s novels from being imported from France to the USA was idiotically childish. No one – I repeat: no one – on Earth was forced to buy his trashy porn novels, period.
You can logically argue that Facebook is not acting as a publisher even while censoring material that it deems a conflict with its personal views and is within its rights to do so. You then realize that the media publishing fake news online about the sitting US President are acting as if they and they alone have the right to say anything at all, and get their undies in a wad when they are repeatedly proven to be lying.
Lying about someone, concocting incorrect and fictitious news stories that are nothing but badly-written fiction, simply because these unprofessional media wranglers hate him more than they hate themselves — well, this sets them apart from the real reporters, and you may understand why they are not much more mature mentally than 5-year-olds in kindergarten who want to hog all the toys.
And why are they acting like this? Because they didn’t get what they wanted in 2016. This is how spoiled brats act.
At this point, Facebook is a publicly-owned company, with shares available for purchase on the stock markets, and does generate income from people and corporations that see it as a place to advertise their products. If shareholders become dissatisfied with the company’s financial performance, they can vote Zuckerberg and his corporate cronies right off the payroll, replacing them with someone else. He does answer to shareholders whether he likes it or not.
Unfortunately for Zuckerberg, when his communications platform became a publicly-held company in 2012, he began to lose his grip on full control of his company.
Facebook, Inc. (FB) went public with its initial public offering (IPO) on May 18, 2012.1 The most popular social networking company had one of the largest and most anticipated IPOs in history. The price per share crashed severely shortly after the IPO.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
- Facebook has become the dominant social media platform on the planet, with over 2.6 billion monthly active users.
- The company was founded in 2004 and went public via IPO on May 18 2012 with a share price of $38.1
- The price dropped to under $18 a share early on before rising to where it is today, with a market cap of over half a trillion dollars.
Facebook’s IPO Failed to Meet Expectations:
With all of the hype surrounding the social media giant’s IPO, expectations were sky-high. Almost immediately it became apparent that the results were going to be lower than expected. The stock fell right at opening, and share prices plummeted more than 40% over the next several months, with losses totaling $50 billion by August 2012. – https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/111015/when-did-facebook-go-public.asp
It’s time that a publicly-held corporation stopped acting like spoiled brats, allowing only what they deem suitable to meet their personal taste, or buy back all its stock from shareholders and let the public send it packing. It’s also time that the media had an enormous shock handed to it, something that will really rattle those cage doors.
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Not on the Book of Fake and don’t even lurk there thru Sister’s page. And, damn, the sun still rising in the east, August is hot as hell, and AW1Ed still provides us with a non-pr0nographic Ms Thang…every Sunday. Life is good.
Isn’t “Control the Media” like #2 on the list the Socialist/Marxist/Communist playbook, right after, “Control the Schools?”
@ Ex-PH2
I’ve read your post and am unsure how you expect the situation to change. Who is fixing what based on
– what new guideline?
How can an individual user help create change?
(not a Facebook user myself, but just curious).
How can an individual create change? By taking his audience elsewhere, which deprives FB of viewers.
It’s simply being a competitor in a heavily competitive market, nothing more.
It’s not Fascism when Leftbook does it for “social justice” or something, comrade!
The Sun still rises in the East, sets in the West, Farcebook still blows, they banned me for a month for posting a meme that insulted Che Guevara! Epstein did not kill himself and it’s hotter than a meth pipe on payday!
Great post Ex. I think I mentioned something about that which I heard on Tucker Carlsons show and you asked if there was a link to it. I really don’t have the technical ability that you all have to write some of these posts. I usually forward articles to Admin.
That’s fine, Jeff. As long as the word gets out, that is what counts.
After 11 years on Facebook it feel good being off of their site. I stopped doing fact checking over a year ago because of the biased mind set on that platform
This is the reason why I’m a ass hole concerning
Both sides of the political fence they own them through campaign donations and giving choice jobs
To there kids, family, and friends
Make no mistake they don’t give a shit about anyone on the right side of the fence
What Trump did a few months ago concerning social media companies was too little to late
I hope Barr can start rolling some heads
Soon or this will cost him a landslide election
And the republicans in November
What a shame too
This is the primary reason for my dislike
Of him all talk no action until it’s to late
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
― George Orwell, 1984
….so that his 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech was no longer impaired by the self-appointed censors of 21st century America.
He can speak all he wants to. Private companies do not have to publish what anyone says.
The 1st Amendment applies to government censorship – not that of a private firm.
Not so.
They are a publicly traded company/corporate entity that accepts advertising and conducts business, and although you can get on there for free, they cannot discriminate against anyone based upon the usual criteria. They can and have in the past been successfully sued several times. It is a corporate entity in every legal sense of the term, and as such has to tow the mark just like any other company out there.
Just do a google search on “antifa facebook”.
For me FB isn’t so much an active censorship platform, or a media control device, though it is both. It’s primary function is a PONZI scheme. It’s book value price hovers around 4$/share-7$ on a cost of 282$. That’s over valued. Criminally. Compare to Wal-mart 5$ on a cost of 142$ or PG 18$ on a value of 137$. Not including Walmart and PG returning dividends. It’s kind of obvious FB is waiting for a stock crash, that’s going to kill the pension funds for public employees. It’ll go like this: First, the heads of FB all set sell orders. Panic sets in, Pension fund directors call mtgs, agree to sell on “Monday” Meanwhile, they’ve all sold their personal shares, then the fund mgrs execute the orders monday, but the price is crap, and going crappier. People call their reps? Need to support FB, my pension! Blah blah blah too big to fail. so a huge poop on the taxpayers.. God I sound like a conspiracy theorist. Hope I’m wrong, because, Amazon is in the same shape.