SCOTUS rules civil rights law protects LGBTQ employees

| June 15, 2020


Joseph Fons holds a pride flag in front of the Supreme Court building June 15 after the court ruled that LGBTQ people can not be disciplined or fired based on their sexual orientation. | Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

The Supreme Court declared Monday that the historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects LGBTQ employees from workplace discrimination.

A major victory for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees, the justices said the law’s ban on job discrimination on the basis of “sex” can include bias against employees due to their sexual orientation or gender identity.

How this will affect good order and discipline in the military was left unsaid. MustangCryppie sends.

Supreme Court finds federal law bars LGBT discrimination in workplace

Two of the court’s Republican appointees joined the court’s Democratic appointees to deliver the surprising, 6-3 victory to LGBT advocates.
By JOSH GERSTEIN and REBECCA RAINEY

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the key federal law prohibiting discrimination in the workplace protects gay, lesbian or transgender employees from being disciplined, fired or turned down for a job based on their sexual orientation.

Two of the court’s Republican appointees, Neil Gorsuch and John Roberts, joined the court’s Democratic appointees to deliver the surprising, 6-3 victory to LGBT advocates.

Writing for the court’s majority, Gorsuch accepted arguments that the Civil Rights Act of 1964’s prohibition on sex discrimination in employment also effectively banned bias based on sexual orientation or gender identity, even though few if any members of Congress thought they were doing that at the time.

“Those who adopted the Civil Rights Act might not have anticipated their work would lead to this particular result. Likely, they weren’t thinking about many of the Act’s consequences that have become apparent over the years, including its prohibition against discrimination on the basis of motherhood or its ban on the sexual harassment of male employees,” Gorsuch wrote.

“But the limits of the drafters’ imagination supply no reason to ignore the law’s demands,” he continued. “When the express terms of a statute give us one answer and extratextual considerations suggest another, it’s no contest. Only the written word is the law, and all persons are entitled to its benefit.”

What’s that on the horizon? It’s the Law of Unintended Consequences, and it’s heading straight our way. Thanks, MC.

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  1. Mason says:

    I’m not upset by this. I think people should be discriminated against on their personality, not their genitalia or with what gender they like to put said genitalia.

    Though with this, we now literally only have one non-protected class. White, hetero, able-bodied, males under the age of 50. 👍🏻

    Virtually everyone has their little special check box to check to make them be impervious to criticism.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Um, Mason, you left out “females”, a species also frequently discriminated against. The things I could tell you….

      • Commissar says:

        Gender is already protected.

        Weren’t you on here multiple times arguing women, even particular woman can meet the same standards as a man, should not be allowed the same jobs in the military?

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          HEY CAPTAIN MOONBAT, DO tell us just how many years of experience YOU HAVE working and making it in the Private Sector, I and others are waiting…

          • Commissar says:

            Why would I? And how the fuck is that relevant?

            I don’t need to prove a damn thing to a shitbag like you,

            • Fyrfighter says:

              Ok, so we’re back to Mason being correct… Outside of that, no rational person i know cares who or what you decide to bang, unless you feel the need to throw it in my face… do what you want, keep it to yourself, and we’ll all get along just fine..

            • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

              THANK YOU for answering my question Major Moonbat, I assume you have NEAR ZERO experience being productive and useful in the Private Sector!

              • Commissar says:

                Yes, The only time I worked for the private sector was when I was in high school and a few part time jobs for extra money when I was a young soldier.

                I worked as a paper boy. In Junior High.
                I worked as a janitor in a machine shop as a Freshman
                I worked at McDonalds, as a dishwasher at a mob owned Italian restaurant, and as a bag boy at a grocery store as a Junior and Senior.

                I worked a Pizza delivery dude part time as a young soldier.

                After graduating I spent my entire life working in public, municipal, county, and military service,

                And there is zero evidence you private sector work is productive and useful, hard to argue mine was,

                My time in military, public, and law enforcement has felt far more productive and useful.

                • Roh-Dog says:

                  Oh sweet jeevus.
                  You have no idea what we mortals do, do you?!?

                  • Commissar says:

                    Apparently , they bitch about not being able to discriminate against people in their imaginary business that they are the CEO, President, and HR rep for.

                    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

                      Sounds better in “Chef-Speak”:

                      Epperently , zeey beetch ibuout nut beeng ible-a tu deescrimeenete-a igeenst peuple-a in zeeur imegeenery buosiness zeet zeey ire-a zee-a CEO, President, und HR rep fur. Bork Bork Bork!

                    • Roh-Dog says:

                      It was a failed attempt at using a logic I picked up off my boy Socrates.
                      I forgot the first rule of speaking, ‘know thy audience(‘s IQ)’.
                      Now, I’m going to go be Happy over this fine Kentucky’s finest.
                      You can stew in your own….whatever.

                • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

                  Just as I thought, you’ve never worked using any kind of real job skill Major Moonbat, but I wish to take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your ilk for doing all you have and continue to do for the reelection of President Donald J. Trump, you SO blatantly display JUST what your side wants to turn the U.S. of A into and it has awoken many. Why don’t you hear anything? No demonstrations? It’s likely because those of us in Red State America are too busy working like hell to earn an honest living to play that kind of game and we’ll say what’s on our minds at the Ballot Box, TRUMP 2020!!!

                  • Commissar says:

                    Trump is not getting re-elected, dipshit.

                    And you should be embarrassed to still support him at this point.

                  • Princess Bob says:

                    Well that doesn’t make sense. Red States are welfare states. They receive the most money from the government, which blue states pay.

              • Commissar says:

                Put you weird logic that the only productive work is private sector is fucking bullshit.

                By you logic a contractor is more productive and useful than a soldier.

                A mall security guard is more productive and useful than a cop.

                A private ambulance EMT is more productive and useful than a firefighter/paramedic.

                A babysitter is more productive and useful than a teacher.

                You entire worldview and value system is fucked..

                • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

                  NO Major Moonbat, I myself have acquired many useful skills to where I could literally make it anywhere in the United States, and you? You’ve never really worked anywhere other than Government except what you’ve told us. Maybe that’s why you’re so bitter? My worldview and value system comes from my extensive travels and real world experience, and travel? I’ve traveled a chunk of this world on MY DIME as well as what the Military gave me. A Proud Infidel®™ signing off for a few to enjoy some Jameson’s and a good See-gar in Memory of Jonn and one of my Buddies I lost in the litterbox, ‘Ciao for now!!!

                • Roh-Dog says:

                  Ok, the small town of 3,000 people that has 3 full time staff in the tax collection office and 4 in the building department are really helping.
                  Government spending is a waste, sometimes it’s a beneficial waste, but at the end of the day it don’t; move a widget, raise a corn, move a car, make a happy.
                  -now back to the regularly scheduled drinking-

  2. Roh-Dog says:

    Why don’t they cut the bullsh*t and just outlaw Free Speech, Personal Property and Free Enterprise.
    I mean, we’d be nothing without the Federal “Government”, right?!

    • Commissar says:

      What does this have to do with any of that?

      • Roh-Dog says:

        Really?
        Ever built something, ya clown?
        Imagine you build a small company, from the ground up, you’re president, CEO, and the HR manager…
        You have an image, you built your company’s image, it pays you and you depend on it to live.
        This business can sell anything under the sun; labor, childcare, bibles, animal feed to Mormons, anydamnthing.
        Now, contrary to your business model and your business’s ethos, you have to hire Divine.
        Now ‘she’ is the face of your business, and you’ll pay handsomely if you decide otherwise.
        It’s another nail in the lid and you damn well know it.

        • Commissar says:

          Nonsense.

          Nobody is making you hire anyone, Their protected class just can’t be your reason for not hiring them…

          If they are otherwise the best qualified and best fit for the position, then what are you complaining about.?

          And since you are the CEO, HR manager, AND 5he President- then how is Divine the “face of your company?”

          You still can impose professional dress, makeup, and grooming standards.

          Also, what the hell image do you imagine your business has with you as the CEO, HR manager, and a president?

          Sounds to me like your business model is giving yourself titles. Why the hell would you give yourself so many titles?

          • Roh-Dog says:

            I can’t even…
            You won, I’m done: I beg mercy.
            Just please, STFU.

          • Sparks says:

            Okay, they can kick me off the site and that’s fine. I try very hard not to get personal but Commisar, just get bent and go fuck yourself!

            I completely disagree that we need another protected class. They are protected by hate crime laws and in many places hate speech laws.

            But back to you dipshit, really, please fuck off you fucking ass hole.

            • rgr769 says:

              Don’t worry, if the admins kick you off the site, you can sneak back as some fictional mollusk.

              • AW1Ed says:

                I’ve made it pretty clear what it takes to be awarded a ban around here. Getting into a flame war with Lars, and vice-versa, won’t do it. I was actually a bit surprised at the (relatively) cordial discussion on Ex’s post.
                Thank you all for snapping me back to reality here.

            • Commissar says:

              Name a place in the United States with a constitutional hate speech laws, ass hole.

              The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that hate speech is protected speech you halfwit bigot.

              So don’t commit a hate crime and you will be fine.

              Making it illegal to commit a hate crime is NOT an infringement on your constitutional freedoms you fucking asshole.

              WTF is wrong with you?

              • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

                WOW Major Moonbat, you really ARE grasping at straws, aren’t you? IMHO Hate Crime laws place certain categories of folks above others.

              • Sparks says:

                You are right Commissar. With some time and reflection, I realize I reacted instead of responding. For that and the personal attack, I apologize. Hope we’re still good.

                No blood, no foul I hope you can agree.

            • Princess Bob says:

              The creepiest people ever are those who get mad when others gain equality.

              There’s got to be something wrong with someone who’s bothered by it.

          • SFC D says:

            “If they are otherwise the best qualified and best fit for the position, then what are you complaining about.?”

            Because, oh wise one, IF the best qualified and best fit are all heterosexual white males, your people will burn my business down.

            You take a contrary position just to take a contrary position.

            • Commissar says:

              Bullshit. There are thousands of businesses in this country with only white male employees.

              I doubt your business is big enough for that to be a statistical problem.

              And if your business has dozens or hundreds of employees then you are full of shit to claim the “only” qualified people are white males.

              • SFC D says:

                You know you’re lying. Your people are more concerned about diversity than equality. Equality means that the most qualified gets the job without regard to race, religion, color, whatever. That. Is. Not. Allowed. The liberal left says it’s not fair. News flash for you sunshine, life ain’t fair.

                • Commissar says:

                  I am not lying.

                  There are thousands of businesses with only white make employees.

                  That is extremely common among labor intensive jobs in predominately white communities.

                  It is not illegal to only have white male employees. It is illegal to only be willing to hire white male employees. So unless and until you deny a qualified protected class employee a job that they were otherwise the best candidate for then you have nothing to worry about.

                  You are creating a false narrative just to justify your bullshti outrage.

                  Same thing you did about the protests. More than 500 critics, tens of thousands of protestors, but you wanted to characterize the protests as “riots” despite the fact that it was a tiny minority of the otherwise peaceful protest a

                  • Mason says:

                    Just like your riots, a much more apt description of which is violent insurrection, were in response to a tiny minority of police.

                  • SFC D says:

                    I supported and continue to support the protests. I condemned and continue to condemn your tiny minority doing millions of dollars of damage that will only bring more hardship upon the very people they claim to be supporting. I am fully aware it is not illegal to have a company filled with heterosexual white males. I never stated otherwise. What I did was to throw a bullshit flag on the liberal do-gooders, that tiny minority you speak of, that would act to destroy a business because it has the wrong number of minorities and other “protected classes”. It is disingenuous of you and a blatant lie for you to say otherwise.

          • QMC says:

            How do you think this will effect Christian schools and other religious institutions?

      • Poetrooper says:

        When did you take over for Ed in maintaining thread integrity?

        • Poetrooper says:

          That’s aimed at the dipshit, not you, Dog.

        • Commissar says:

          How am I maintaining thread integrity, Poe?

          Anyway, don’t you have propaganda to write?

          • Hondo says:

            It appears that Commissar Wumao (五毛) must be behind in his rent or something. He’s certainly busting butt to exceed quota on comments today.

            • Commissar says:

              Yeah, the problem is that George Soros thinks you are irrelevant so he just won’t pay me what my effort here would otherwise earn.

              • A Proud infidel®™ says:

                DO tell us more there, Captain Moonbat, maybe you’re simply not considered a useful enough idiot to qualify for a paycheck from Soros’s upper minions?!

              • Mason says:

                The free market has decided you’re comments are worthless. ✌️

              • Hondo says:

                If Soros won’t pay you the same rate that the PRC pays its Wumao, seems to me that implies Soros thinks you are irrelevant.

                And since Soros and you appear to be ideological allies, that’s kinda harsh criticism from a supposed “friend”.

  3. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    So then that means that Brucie’s bath House (Entrance in the Rear NOW HAS TO consider hiring *GASP!* cisgender heterosexuals as well, the shit flies both ways!

    • Princess Bob says:

      I mean… I know straighties who work at grotty gay places, so… It’s really not been a deal.

  4. Bill R. says:

    The nail has been driven into the coffin of Women’s Sports.

  5. OWB says:

    While I heartily agree that an otherwise exemplary employee should not be fired simply because years later it happens to become known that the employee prefers one thing or another, I may not be the only one who finds that in many/most working environments, focus on sex instead of the mission is at least counterproductive and perhaps worse.

    Why does the work group need to know? At least some of us just don’t care who you sleep with, and feel absolutely no need to know. Don’t care what your orientation might be. Don’t care if last night’s conquest was blonde or a redhead. Don’t care if your SO didn’t put out last week.

    Just keep it to yourself.

    Oh, that’s right. As a former frequent visitor here used to say, “Not caring is no longer an option.” We MUST care because somebody else says that we must. We WILL be involved in their sex lives whether we want to be or not. I can no longer just not care who they sleep with, I must applaud their choices, if they happen to be gay. Straight people are still supposed to not harass people with their trash talk, right?

    • SFC D says:

      I don’t give a single fuck about who sticks what in what or what they stick in where as long as it’s off the clock and not forced on me. That applies to straight, gay, or whatever the sexual or asexual terminology is this week. Go do whatever floats your boat, just don’t ask me to march in your parade.

      • Commissar says:

        Yeah you do.

        Because you are all pissy over this ruling.

        Clearly the fact that someone is gay really matters in your mind with respect to whether they should have a job in your company.

        • SFC D says:

          You would be wrong. Your normal state. My problem is that far too many things being sold as “rights” are not. Your people want equal outcome for everyone, wealth distribution, everybody gets a trophy. I want a level playing field, where everyone is equal at the starting line. Where you finish is up to the individual, the effort and investment you put in. Nobody gets special treatment.

          • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

            DITTO that, I want everyone to have the same chance without the rewards of extra work and effort being confiscated and handed to the slackers!

          • Hondo says:

            You would be wrong.

            When speaking about something Commissar has posted/will post here, that statement is virtually a tautology.

  6. AW1 Rod says:

    Meanwhile, SCOTUS has also been busy refusing to hear 10 cases involving the 2nd Amendment, and the Kalifornia “sanctuary” law. The only thing they’ve gotten right that I can see is their reversal of the 4th Circuit Court decision blocking the gas pipeline beneath the Appalachian Trail.

    • 5th/77th FA says:

      Imma wid you AW1 Rod, and not just to make some points wid the other AW1 that does more than just hang out here. This particular case rates exactly 0 effs from my barren field. Hell, I figured the Alphabet crowd already had more equal rights than us straight white males anyway, as pointed out elsewhere here. There are a large number of cases that are way more important than this subject that the SCOTUS should be hearing. Just another example of how special they think a confused state of gender is. Five hundred years from now when an anthropologic doctor examines Ru Paul, the doc is gonna say. “This guy sure did dress funny.”

      Fifteen some odd years ago a major telecommunications company spent 40K to turn a broom closet into a private latrine for a he/she/it to avoid a legal battle.

  7. Ex-PH2 says:

    Remember the East German women’s team? Everyone thought they were really men pretending to be women. As it turns out, they WERE women who had submitted to being given male hormone injections, whether they wanted them or not, so that they’d be faster, stronger, more durable than all the other women athletes.

    They didn’t ask for it. They were ordered to submit to it, period. Those who were interviewed a few years ago had horror stories about it.

    So we fast forward to boys who cheat to get athletic scholarships by insisting that they are “rilly, rilly girls” and the REAL girls get stomped on.

    Cheating is cheating, period.

    But when the most important thing you can say about yourself is that you’re really a girl, deep down inside, rather than extremely capable of doing the job you’re interviewing to get, there is something wrong with YOU. Your job skills are supposed to be more important than whether you sit or stand to pee.

    And frankly, you idiots, I don’t give a damn, when that’s the only thing you have to say about yourselves.

  8. David says:

    So much for that “Trump is a fascist dictator” bullshit, Lars…. you think if he was decisions like this could be handed down? And so much for all the whiners who complain that a “republican Court will just rule in lockstep with the GOP and the other BS we’ve heard.

    • Commissar says:

      I never said he was a fascist dictator.

      I said he wants to be. And he openly and explicitly supports nearly every single tenet of fascism.

      Stop trying to straw man what I say just because you are incapable of defending Trump’s authoritarian ambitions and ideology.

      Trump: “We’re going to take the firearms first and then go to court, because that’s another system. Because a lot of times by the time you go to court … it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida; he had a lot of fires [and] they saw everything. To go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you’re saying but take the guns first, go through due process second.“

      Funny how that is something you would not be ok with had any other president said it.

      You cultist.

    • Mason says:

      There’s only one side of Washington that demands total loyalty and demands you vote in lockstep. It certainly isn’t the GOP.

    • Princess Bob says:

      It’s EXTREMELY relevant to note that Trump was against this ruling in the first place, has argued against gay rights, and has absolutely affected SCOTUS forever simply by filling seats that he deemed were appropriate.

  9. Comm Center Rat says:

    So will the Pride Flag be displayed with the US and POW\MIA flags on military installations?

    • rgr769 says:

      Sure, why not. This country is likely doomed, anyway, especially if the D-rats get the presidency and the Senate in November. They will
      be able to destroy what is left that is good in this nation that Zero and his crew haven’t wrecked.

      • Princess Bob says:

        Who spoon feeds you all this crap? Stop being hysterical. The world isn’t going to end just because Democrats win.

  10. FuzeVT says:

    Race and gender are immutable characteristics. National origin is not changeable, although not a physical characteristic. This is what was to be protected by this legislation. Transsexuals, by definition, claim to be something simply by stating that they are that thing. It could change on a whim, if they decided to do so (assuming no surgery has been done). [At this point let me say that I am talking mostly about those people who live like the opposite sex but don’t go through hormones or surgery. Too many rabbit holes, here.] Sexual orientation could as well. I can’t imagine “going gay”, so I don’t expect that people who had a same sex attraction since puberty would either. There are plenty of people out there that do want to cheat and game the system, however, so this is a possibility. And Bi’s prove that the gate can be a swingin’ one.
    If there needs to be legislation that deals with LGBT stuff, then it should stand on its own. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 is not the appropriate place for it because all of that is not the same is your immutable characteristics or place of origin.

    • OldSoldier54 says:

      Bingo!

    • Princess Bob says:

      I really disagree. The guy got fired when a coworker discovered his gay baseball team. “When an employer fires a male employee for dating men but does not fire female employees who date men, he violates Title VII.” I think it obviously applies here.

  11. Hondo says:

    What I want to know is what happens when an admitted pedophile – who is otherwise well-qualified for the job – applies for a job at a youth camp or day care center and claims that “gay (or straight) pedophilia” simply happens to be his or her sexual orientation.

    • Roh-Dog says:

      Wait for it…

      • Hondo says:

        I’d guess we won’t have to wait very long before NAMBLA or some other similar organizations tries that or something similar – then files a lawsuit the moment their stalking horse applicant isn’t selected.

        • Roh-Dog says:

          And knowing what precedent this sets, Our Infallible Activist Supremes® will allow themselves the latitude to pencil-in any socially mandated changes.

        • UpNorth says:

          You’d almost think they’d already done it, with the Boy Scouts. It worked, so they’ll give it another go, with the blessing of SCOTUS.

    • OldSoldier54 says:

      Yep. That is the logical direction we are heading … NAMBLA.

  12. E4 Mafia '83-'87 says:

    Civilian laws don’t always unilaterally translate to the military. Any changes to current military policy will need another ruling.

    I agree with not discriminating against people because they’re gay or trans. It also means that because your new co-worker dresses like a woman and wanted to be called Francine instead of Frank that you don’t have to have beers with them after work. Unless you want to. You’re still allowed to associate/not associate with whomever you wish.

  13. Commissar says:

    There way too much outrage on here over this.

    If you are a bigot then how does this ruling impact your life?

    If you are not a bigot then what you are angry about is that other bigots no longer can discriminate against their employees.

    How is that a bad thing?

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      NOW Brucie’s Bath House (Entrance in the Rear) will be forced to hire *GASP!*, Heterosexual Cisgender Males, the shit flies both ways, how ’bout that, Major Moonbat?

    • SFC D says:

      Some of the biggest bigots carry rainbow flags.

      • Roh-Dog says:

        This!
        The cult of ‘diversity’.

      • Commissar says:

        Well, now they can’t discriminate against straight people.

        So it is a win for people you know who are straight.

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          HEY Major Moonbat, I myself had to endure multiple occasions while working in the Government OR Private Sector when I was PASSED OVER for a promotion or a raise because my Employer at the time was scared shitless about an EEO complaint despite the fact that MY work performance and skills exceeded that of someone who was in one of the “Protected Classes” that your side of the political fence screeches about and the lesser skilled protected one was promoted over me. ME? I doubled down and overcame it because I don’t play games and to this day I KNOW THAT I have gotten where I am by my own hard work and initiative, I never played “HEY, look at me!” games to get where I am. The games that your side of the proverbial fence plays do a lot towards PROMOTING racial separatism and anxiety in a complete contrast to what the Reverend Martin Luther King crusaded for.

          • Princess Bob says:

            It still doesn’t make sense to equate your experience with this being equal protection under the law. Just because people can’t be fired for being gay now doesn’t mean you’re going to get EEO complaints. This is a great day.

    • Roh-Dog says:

      For one; how many non-producing, worthless Federal employees is this equally worthless ruling going to create?
      Too many is the answer.
      All to bust Ned down at the Our Lady lower shop that doesn’t want to hire the creepy kid with a lisp.

      • Roh-Dog says:

        *flower shop

      • Commissar says:

        Is this why you are outraged?

        Bullshit.

        You just keep trying to find excuses for your nonsense.

        The department of labor is not going to get.a budget increase because of this ruling. So fuck off with your excuse framework.

  14. Ret_25X says:

    I do not understand why this required a SCOTUS ruling. Unless you are running a church, synagogue or religious charity, I’m not seeing why such things would be part of hiring or firing decisions.

    I can see why Catholic Charities (for example) might want to hire…oh…practicing Catholics, but why would Ford or GMC care?

    Just like I can’t understand why gays would want the practicing Christian to bake them a cake….

    But, we live in weird world….

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      ALL THOSE OTHER Bakers those lesbians could have chosen and they picked the only one who had a religious objection, I wonder how many dozen others they went through before they found someone they could screech about?

      • 5th/77th FA says:

        Hundreds of cake bakers in Denver. Owner was targeted by a trans attorney to make a transcake, knowing he would refuse, lawer suing for 100K plus. This was in late April 2020. smdh!

        https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/10/colorado-baker-sued-again-turning-down-gender-transition-cake/

        • Commissar says:

          Again, not what this ruling was about.

          If the guy was hiring a cake maker, and a trans lawyer, who also happens to be a very accomplished cake maker, applied and was denied because of his gender identity….then this ruling would cover that.

          But your angsty post has nothing to do with this decision.

          And just make the fucking cake for Christ’s sake. You are being paid to do it.

          Lawsuit averted. Dipshit.

      • Commissar says:

        This has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of customers or making cakes for gay weddings.

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          WOW Major Moonbat, you’re off the scales today!!!

        • 5th/77th FA says:

          Go fornicate yourself with a length of barbed wire wrapped around a cactus you sissy punk asinine piece of sh^t. No one was talking with you and my comment was simply a reply to the number of cake bakers available and a sidebar to the fact that this particular cake baker was TARGETED by the potential customers, KNOWING of his religious beliefs. A business person should be able to reserve the right to refuse service to assholes, like you, a right of free choice if you will. Nobody said one damn word whether this comment was related to the post at hand and if you were not such a self centered wanna be know it all little prick that had any type of reading comprehension you would realize that. We have simply got to quit asking you how stupid, asinine, and vulgar can you be; you seem to take it as a challenge. I normally go out of my way to just ignore your sissy punk asinine piece of sh^t self. I served with a few assholes like you that were the true poster boys of the ossifers that set themselves up for a well deserved blanket party. Do you come here just to satisfy you masochist needs? Were you born a stupid sissy punk asinine piece of sh^t or did you attend a special school to get to your level of pure aggravating stupidity?

          Seriously, why don’t you just go away and stay away since you don’t seem to like it here? Your Mommy called, she has you a fresh cream pie for your supper.

    • T1B says:

      My understanding of the need for a Supreme Court ruling is that the issue was the result of three separate cases that went before three separate appeals courts. Said appeals courts did not all come to the same ruling, so the issue went up the chain since the cases were essentially the same.

    • Princess Bob says:

      I’m kinda shocked that you don’t understand. Didn’t you read the case at all in any length? The guy got fired when work discovered his baseball team was for gay men.

  15. Roh-Dog says:

    “I wonder how many dozen others they went through before they found someone they could screech about”, and have the whole hep world kvetch about it, in unison, as atonement, while watching Maddow telling them PRECISELY how to feel?
    Fify?

    • Commissar says:

      You are as looney as you are ignorant,

      And based on how addled your posts are I suspect you are definitely in a very high risk group for CV19. You should probable wear a mask and social distance. Avoid friends, family, and the public.

      They will all be thankful for it.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        As for me, IDGAF about the pre-planned panic anymore, it’s been proven that the damned statistics are rigged and I had the shit back in January before everyone was told to panic, so STICK your panic preaching STRAIGHT UP your Wide World of Sports, Major Moonbat!
        Remember when you were screeching that we were ALL going to be in major shit with the Zika virus and IT NEVER HAPPENED?

      • Roh-Dog says:

        Based on how much bourbon I drink I bet I don’t give a fuck what you think.
        (I’m younger and probably a lot happier than you, fyi)

  16. Green Thumb says:

    Curious how many of the people his ruling benefited (Gorsuch) are trashing him today?

    • Commissar says:

      Kavanaugh is the one the left hates. Not Gorsuch. We know he is a conservative and waaaaay too pro corporate.

      They don’t like how he got his seat, but hate McConnell and weak feckless dems for that.

      • Green Thumb says:

        Agreed.

        They sure did not like his (Gorush’s) appointment. Trashed him for a good year.

  17. Penguinman000 says:

    Who cares? I don’t give 2 shits about anyone’s sexual predelictions as long as it’s between 2 consenting adults. The bedroom is off limits to the government and employers. The genius of the Constitution is it clarified the right of citizens to be left alone by their government.

    Can you do the job and increase the bottom line? That’s the only question the free market cares about. If I want to call myself Francine, sit to pee or marry a tree it isn’t anyone else’s business. Even if I’m a frigging weirdo.

    If I don’t care for a business’s positions or products then I’ll take my business elsewhere.

    And if you’re going to fire someone then make sure it’s about something germaine to the business. Not because you have a problem with their legal activities outside of the office.

    Too bad this ruling won’t apply to the folks of a more conservative bent.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      ^^^^THIS^^^^, I myself don’t give even two fucks of a rat’s ass what one does in their own private time, but when they decide to rub it in my face demanding complete and total acceptance is when I take an issue with it.

      • Princess Bob says:

        I care. Because I’m gay. And in 26 states that meant I could be fired. It’s a great time to be alive!

  18. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    I like that it was Gorsuch who wrote the majority opinion, and the cacophony of critics against Gorsuch who only recently were praising him.

    6-3 opinions tend to remain settled law for a bit longer than those 5-4 opinions do historically, so lower courts have direction now and those who have been discriminated against have a higher likelihood of round one success.

    If nothing else it proves that prior judicial behavior is no indicator of how a judge will behave once selected for SCOTUS.

  19. Slow Joe says:

    So, Gorsuch proved to be a weasel.

    This is reinterpreting the law. When it was written, it did not intend anything else than what was written in it.

    If they want to add the gay and lesbian mafia, then pass a new law in Congress to protect them.

    The Supreme Court is stealing the legislative powers of Congress.

    • OWB says:

      Or, he could have taken the conservative position of interpreting the law, as written, instead of bending the law to fit his world view.

    • SFC D says:

      Spot on, Joe. This is my biggest gripe with this decision. It should have been settled in the legislative branch, not the judicial.

      • Princess Bob says:

        People’s civil rights should NOT be settled by legislative whims. Should firing someone who is black be settled legislatively? This is exactly why civil rights end up being settled in judiciary over and over again.

    • Princess Bob says:

      It’s really not reinterpreting it. I agree it makes a lot of sense. Not firing a woman who obviously dates men, but firing a man who does fits right in with the previous cases.

      Congress consistently avoids passing any laws in this respect. So this is a great day.

  20. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    Personally, I think Gorsuch decided on the letter/meaning, in an originalist manner. (be careful for what one wishes) Some folks disagree on meaning, and English language is like that, so we argue. Ultimately, we argue before SCOTUS. Note this quote:

    “We must decide whether an employer can fire someone simply for being homosexual or transgender. The answer is clear. An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex. Sex plays a necessary and undisguisable role in the decision, exactly what Title VII forbids.”

    – Gorsuch, in the majority opinion

    “sex” -is- fundamental to “sexual behavior” ? Novel idea there? Honesty compels that I see from where comes his point. I am not sure of the eventual outcome, but that line of reasoning is a far distant thing from an “emanation in a penumbra”.

    I’ll end with this next quote, as some folks argue the man is dictatorial-ish or even “fascist”-ish:

    “They’ve ruled. I read the decision, and some people were surprised. But they’ve ruled and we live with their decision. That’s what it’s all about. We live with the decision of the Supreme Court. Very powerful — very powerful decision, actually.”

    – DJT