Frank Joseph Visconi, according to Scotty, had a perfectly honorable career in the Vietnam War as a supply clerk and he was honorably discharged as a sergeant with the following DD214;
With the following rack;
But, that wasn’t good enough when he became the Sr. Vice Commandant of Marine Corps League Chapter #603 – James McCutchen Detachment in Clarksville, TN. The he joined the “Together We Served” website and decided that his rack needed some punching up;
Somewhere along the way, he got himself some certificates for a Bronze Star Medal for Valor and a Purple Heart that he also posted. When people started questioning him, he simply took down his profile and dashed. At Scotty’s he has two DD215s which correct his social security number and some unit commendations. Neither of the DD215s mention two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star or a Combat Action Ribbon.
The story about the rank difference is a good one, too, better when told by Scotty, so shoot over and visit him.
Category: Phony soldiers
I have been quiet too long. Frank what helo squadron did fly as doorgunner? What helos were you flying in? OV1,H34,H47,H46 or CH53s? What caliber was the mg? How long did you fly as a doorgunner? We never had a trouble getting shop personel to fly. Why do you not have any flight awards? Facing towards the pilots which side of the helo was your mg? Joe PS Your story reeks of BULLSHIT.
Oooohhh1 Thank you, Joe!
Frank you aware of the term “read between the lines” I imagine. Let’s try.
“I was promoted to SSgt after discharge.”
YOU
“I receive a Purple Heart from an upper leg, below the knee, punji stick.”
ARE
“I had my documents verified for authenticity.”
A
“I was awarded the BSM w/V.”
LIAR
Hondo, if peeps like Bernath were sent to the Reserves after their 4 years of AD, were they required to go to monthly drills?
My brother had 2 years AD at Ft. Dix and then the rest in the Reserves, but he did monthly drills. But the war was winding down to nothing by then, when I got out (1974), and I don’t recall his being promoted any further than E-4 during that time.
My point with this is that Bernath did not appear to have done any drills from 1970 on, and certainly was not promoted (except in his own mind) once he was shuffled off to the Reserves. So does that apply here?
I’m just trying to sort this out based on that a priori thingy.
Or they can finish out their eight year obligation in the Inactive ready Reserves (IRR) like I did, during which one is subject to being recalled to duty. In the IRR there are no drills or uniforms, and no paycheck, either. One benefit of the IRR is that one is entitled to a Military ID card while on it and they can keep using the PX, Commissary, or MWR facilities. Hope that’s the info you were looking for, and getting promoted while on IRR status? I CALL BULLSHIT ON THAT!!
No, my wife ETS’d as an E4 in 1992. After a couple of years in IRR status, she was “promoted” to E5.
OK, I stand corrected, I’ve never heard about that happening before, but I still call BS on Visconi’s promotion claim!
It can happen. But my impression is that it’s reasonably rare.
Yes, but it was not AFTER she was discharged. She was still in the Reserves.
Bernath didn’t go any further than E-5, but he didn’t have enough time in pay grade to move up, anyway. Visconi says he was promoted AFTER he was discharged, NOT while he was in IRR.
Doesn’t the ‘time in pay grade’ requirement apply to all branches of the service?
Bernath was 4 & 2. There’s nothing to indicate he even took the PH1 & PHC test.
Ditto Visconi.
If the same time requirement rules apply to the USMC, then Visconi couldn’t have gotten the E-6, anyway.
Not to answer for Hondo, but when an AD service member ETS’es he/she has the option of joining the active reserves or state NG to complete his/her obligation. If not, then the service member goes into the Individual Ready Reseve (IRR) which does not drill.
Proud Infidel and LebbenB have covered it pretty well. Personnel leaving active duty with remaining statutory military obligation go into either the Selected Reserve (units and IMAs) or the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), generally at the individual’s option. (Some early release programs require SelRes participation.) Most SelRes have mandatory drills (not all IMAs do) and perform Annual Training. IRR does not.
And if memory serves, those on IRR do not gain time in grade or get promoted while in that status.
I was asking about time in pay grade, not actual reserves v. active duty.
See here: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=41610&cpage=4#comment-1222743
My point being that Bernath and Visconi served the same amount of AD followed by Reserve time, and unless there was some difference in the rule, neither of them was eligible for anything higher than E-5, based on time in pay grade, up to their discharged status.
I have several documents I am willing to share, although its against my better judgement. Just tell me how to attach documents. I went to the Contact me link and asked them an no response. Apparently you do not know the RULE as good as the CMC does because he is the one that sent me the Promotion. I will l post the warrant, the orders and a few other documents. Just have someone tell me how to attach documents to this bullshit page. And when you get them, being like you all are, you will do exactly what Killeffer did four years ago and that is say that they are all phony documents and that I produced them. Well, you check them out and make your own decision. I have nothing to hide. I’m ready whenever you are.
Francis, take your documents to a court of law, and file a lawsuit. If you can’t do that then you are not going to convince anyone here otherwise.
As I said before, you are very cute when you come here stomping your feet and holding your breath till your face turns blue. You, in no way shape or form have any effect on any body else’s lives here that take PLEASURE in exposing you for the LIAR and EMBELLISH-ER that you are.
Visconi: here’s a procedure that even you should be able to follow. Read carefully; have someone explain it to you if necessary.
1. Photocopy the documents.
2. Get an envelope.
3. Put the photocopies (NOT your “originals”) in the envelope. Redacting your SSN (if present) might be a good idea. No need to redact your service number; that’s public record information not covered by the Privacy Act.
4. Click on the “Contact Us” near the top right of the site (on the black banner).
5. Copy the mailing address you will find there onto the envelope as the “TO” address.
6. Put proper postage on the envelope. I find that, as a rough rule of thumb, one stamp is enough for every 3 pages of 8.5″ x 11″ paper.
7. Put your return address on the envelope in the proper location (optional).
8. Mail the envelope. The site owner will receive the documents and will decide whether he will post them. (I’m guessing he will, but I can’t speak for him.)
Simple enough for ya, Frankie-boi?
Oh, I don’t know the RULE, fuckstick?
The RULE NOW is 36 months IN GRADE as E-5. In the 1960s and 1970s, the RULE THEN was 6 years/72 months IN GRADE as E-5. Oddly, YOU went to the IRR in 1968, meaning YOU NO LONGER were eligible for promotion.
Stil think I don’t know the RULES, simian proboscis?
So now your story is the Commandant sent you your promotion to SSgt. Thats in direct conflict with the story that you recieved a letter instructing you to call and make arrangements to receive your promotion.
The OFFICIAL letter from Major M.L. Peters, Head, Enlisted Promotion Section has been sent to you. The letter is dated 18 April 2014 in response to my letter to the CMC telling them that the LEAST they could do to shut Killeffer up is to send him a letter verifying my promotion. I sent a copy to your blog leader or whatever he is called but he is to afraid to post it. Read it and weep asshole Last line of letter after he said he could not release the information to Killeffer because of the privacy act (which you people don’t seem to know or care about): “However, after conducting a through review of your entire record, reference (b – NAVMC 118(5)) verifies your permanent promotion to Staff Sergeant effective 2 May 1969 while in the Marine Corps Reserves. Signed, M.L. Peters, Major, USMC, Head, Enlisted Promotion Section. So, what does this do to the credibility of KILLEFFER’s claim about all my documents being fake? Any intelligent individual would stop and THINK for a second and figure it out. If Killeffer is so adamant that I produced my own promotion warrant and it turns out that I did not, that should lend some doubt to whether I produced the others. Maybe if all of you on this site put all your brains together, it might add up to at least half a brain.
Only thing I needed to read were court decisions shooting you down each and every time.
I suggest you read them and weep Frank.
Hey Frank, You have the power to make all this go away very simply. Posters here have only been asking for verifiable evidence. If everything you say is on the up and up, that would end all the bullshit. Sorry buddy all your so called legal mumbo jumbo is just that. I have been watching from the sideline cuz there is nothing I really need to add. The proof is in the paper and from what I see, you don’t have any. So put your documentation where your mouth is. The folks on this blog are the real deal and you are nothing but a poser. Please prove me wrong, and I will be glad to apologize. But right now I don’t see one forthcoming. The ball is in your hands, (unless you got something else in them and are just fantacising)
Francine won’t do it! She has tripled down for the long haul …
I might suggest that we make her infamous!
Francine isn’t going to cop to anything that is not true. You guys just keep on flinging it and I will take it. None of you would ever admit to anything you have not done or is not true.
I’ve been down this road for eight years and if I were a liar or a quitter I would have given in a long time ago.
Killeffer, in case you don’t know it, is the ass that posted all the defamatory, untrue information in the first place. That’s who’s lead you are following. He’s a liar and a Coward!
Yet you still can’t answer a few simple questions. Your citation states that you volunteered for all those ops, yet you told us you were ordered. No citation would state that you volunteered unless you actually had. In fact, volunteering is central to the award you claim. How do you explain that? And don’t give us the, “I was ‘volunteered’ crap again. If you were ordered it would have so stated on the citation or no mention would have ben made of volunteering. Next, at one point you claimed the documents had not been analyzed, then you later stated they were. So which is it? You can’t keep your story straight.
Mix words why don’t you. Have you ever talked to one of your “victims” face to face? You should try it and learn something.
Mix words? I’m simply using your own words at various places here and on your citation. So why not try to answer rather than tap dance around the issue. You say two different things. Both can’t be true. And I don’t have any victims so there’s no reason for me to talk to them face to face. But nice try at misdirection. But just as in other cases, it doesn’t work.
Frank- Please explain how your promotion to Staff Sergeant, dated 2 May 1969, was reflected on your awards that were dated 1 May 1969?
Awards and promotions are handled by different entities within the Marine Corps, and it’s not like you were in a unit that was trying to coordinate it for you.
You should lie low for a while, and then reappear in the future with a more credible story and better documentation.
TheCloser: Frankie-boi has already explained that little detail. The “documents” for his awards were “self-produced” – e.g., Frankie made them himself.
Pretty? Yes. Authentic? Not by a long shot.
Thanks Hondo. The new format makes the storyline difficult to follow at times.
Oh, Sorry, I made a fricking mistake. It is dated 1 May 69. Big whoop. Suppose you never made a mistake. I don’t stare at my warrant everyday. It’s tucked away in a file with everything else. Tell me, do you remember every single minute detail of everything you did during you Marine Corps tour? This is all 45-50 years ago. May yours is, but my memory is not that great. You ought to do something with that talent of yours. Talk about nit picking. Can’t you come up with something more solid than that?
Oh, Sorry, I made a fricking mistake. It is dated 1 May 69. Big whoop. Suppose you never made a mistake. I don’t stare at my warrant everyday. It’s tucked away in a file with everything else. Tell me, do you remember every single minute detail of everything you did during you Marine Corps tour? This is all 45-50 years ago. May yours is, but my memory is not that great. You ought to do something with that talent of yours. Talk about nit picking. Can’t you come up with something more solid than that?
So which was it ? 45 or 50 years ago ?
Hey Francine,
We professionalsremember important events, dates, times, names and places as though happened yesterday.
How about it?
I would think that someone who had been fighting the issue for eight years or more would be intimately familiar with the dates.
Staff promotions come directly from CMC. You should know that. Anything below is given by your company commander or whoever the hell it is.
My E-5 promotion was given to me by the CG of LFTCLant at Little Creek in December 1966. I got out of the Corps in July 68. That’s 19 months in grade if you can count. Still being in the reserves, the E-6 promotion came directly from CMC and is signed by Commandant Leonard F. Chapman who was the Commandant in 1969. What is your rank Closer. Have you ever seen a SSgt warrant? I suppose you have since you know everything.
Frank- Although you continually dodge the questions asked of you, I will set the example and reply to yours.
I am an MCPO (E-9) in the Navy Reserve. I was an active duty Marine and got out as a Sergeant E-5 (MOS 2851, Good Conduct Medal and National Defense Service Medal).
I have not seen a Staff Sergeant Promotion ‘warrant,’ as you call it. Not sure how that is relevant to my comments or question.
Although the CMC has final approval (and I highly doubt he does anything other than read the names) of E-6 and above promotions, there is a board that votes to select the most qualified. See the Marine Corps Promotion Manual at the following link:
http://www.newriver.marines.mil/Portals/17/Documents/MCO%20P1400.32D.pdf
An excerpt worth noting:
8. Best Qualified. Those eligible Marines who are determined by a majority
vote of a Staff Noncommissioned Officer Selection Board to be the most
qualified among their peers for selection.
The Marine Corps, like the rest of the world, is a ‘what have you done for me lately’ organization when it comes to promotions. The past year’s performance has the highest weight. You had no eval, hadn’t run the PRT, hadn’t drilled, no rifle score, etc.
The Marine Corps has high esteem for Staff NCOs and you would have us believe that you were getting an ‘honorary’ promotion based on your undocumented heroics as a PFC.
Not honorary dipshit. I had the time in grade. I had no idea one could be promoted once they left active duty. You think you know everything but you don’t know shit. I’m not stupid enough to think the Commandant himself promoted me. I said staff promotions come from CMC and that is the office of the Commandant. I’m not that stupid to think the Commandant knew me personally. I had the time in grade and was still part of the inactive reserves and apparently that was all that was required other than a good performance record which mine is/was. How is it you guys know EVERYTHING there is to know about the Marine Corps, absolutely everything? I don’t claim to know half the shit you are all talking about. I enlisted and put in my time and got out. I’m not a student of Marine Corps history and regulations. You keep on talking your shit and you’ve done nothing to prove me wrong. You supposedly can get your hands on anything you want. Well, go and get it. Of course there is a chance that the fricking records department won’t have it because they all have their heads up their ass. Oh that’s right. They only make mistakes in war time records. I happened to be promoted AFTER Nam. Just because none of you experienced it (a promotion after active duty) doesn’t mean it don’t happen. Ask Killeffer how to contact the BCNR He surely knows how. He has written to them several times with his uncorroborated bullshit and sabotaged my claim. It’s unfortunate that they choose to believe a dumb ass like him rather than the individual who actually experienced it.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!
That’s my cock-and-bull story and I’m sticking to it!
Fixed it for ya, MrBill. (smile)
Dang Frankenweenie,
You call a fellow Marine an ass! They are not following my lead Francine; they are following all of your BullShit.
Right now, my guess is that frank the crank was actually doing stuff like digging shitholes, because they didn’t have Portapotties back then, and holding wood while the Seabees built the latrines, and maybe – if he was lucky – doing the paperwork for the aluminum grids for the airfield the Seabees were building. Other than that, he never spent one second of his time doing anything like getting photos, playing cards, shooting the shit with buddies (’cause he didn’t have any) and burning shitters.
Unless he comes up with something that says otherwise – and I do NOT mean a rambling, confabulating, drivel-laden discourse on legal maneuverings that he can’t even get right – he’s just a do-nothing wannabe that missed the very boat he was supposed to board.
Still scratching my head over Frank’s accusation of us being friends with this Killifer fellow, someone I, for one, had never heard of until Frank started talking about him endlessly.
Gave up caring a whit about anything you say many posts ago, Frank, just so you know. But you do seem to still be entertaining to some others around here, so carry on.
Frank, several of us gave you excellent advise on multiple occasions. You chose not to take it, so guess who gets to live with the consequences. (Clue: look in the mirror.)
Waiting to post several documents for your amusement. Meanwhile follow this:
MACV
IIIMAF
IIIMEF
Combat Logistics Regiment 3
3rd Marine Division (Rein)
3rd Shore Party Bn
Joseph Flynn – Lieutenant
C.J. Daigle XO
Manny Viera CO
Gene Polderdyke – NCOIC (Cpl) He is the one and only one I spent any time with because he is the one who was my immediate superior and gave me my orders.
Take them to a court of law Francine. Oh, and you need to take a breath, your face is sure turning a dark blue.
Frankie, what documents? The self produced type that the Military already determined to be fake or not credible? I mean if you have other documents than those, why didn’t they get submitted when you were suing everyone under the sun?
You may think you are a smart man, you may very well have some degree of intelligence… do not for one second underestimate the tenacity of the folks on here, and their ability to spot doctored or outright bogus documents.
Yes, it’s call gang activity. You assholes just form a group and gang up on your prey. I don’t think I am smart, I KNOW I AM! and I’m not just talking about school education. I’ve been on the streets and around the block quite a few times. I know a thing or two about life. As I figured, what sense does it make to put up any documents. One of you asks for them and then another said before even looking at them that they are self-produced. So, let me see how this goes. If I put them up for you to see, they are all phony anyway, but if I don’t I have something to hide. Hmmm, now which road would you take, you’re the smart one here.
I ask you about the font. Frank says “hey look, a squirrel!”
I ask you about the font.
Frank says, “Hey look, sure are a lot of squirrels!”
I ask about the font.
Frank says, “How many squirrels are there?”
I ask about the font.
Frank says, “You know, squirrels form gangs!”
Yeah Frank, I get it. You have street smarts all right. Smooth move generating 1969 era documents with a font invented in 1994. You sir are a goddamn genius!
The squirrels are a lie! Plus they’re secret.
Well Weenie boi,
So you think you are smart! You file your cases in the wrong court. In a Tennessee Court you cite Texas Rules of Civil Procedure. You motion the court in Hamilton County for an addition of the cause of action for “Defamation Per Se” and I point out in my motion that there is no cause of action for “defamation per se” in Tennessee Law or Federal Law. Who are you trying to fool.
I’ll bet your Law Enforcement Superiors required you to put your “one bullet” in your shirt pocket.
Well Weenie you are “out there where the buses don’t run”.
Dogs chasing cars have “been on the streets and around the block quite a few times” too, Frankie-boi.
Sometimes, however, they’re too stupid to know when to quit chasing. And they forget the car is bigger than they are.
Sometimes they get careless – or “stuck on stupid” – and get run over.
Frankie-boi, I think you’re “stuck on stupid” here and are perilously close to getting something you really don’t want. You might want to cut your losses and simply go silent.
Somehow, I don’t think he’ll take that good advice.
That’s only the opinion of three members of the board at BCNR. They didn’t have the balls to let me meet with them in person (refused my request three times). They never had the docs analyzed and you know why I know that, because you can’t analyze copies. It has to be the original. I told you the reasons they said the were not authentic (they didn’t say fake). I refuted their findings and they never said another word about it. A key piece of evidence is the letter from CMC advising me of my promotion and THEY cannot produce it. I took that letter to the reserve or induction center or whatever you want to call it and they either kept it or I lost it in the basement flood. Either way, as you have all said all along, the records department should have a copy of it and they have failed to produce it after three written requests. In fact, they don’t even bother to respond because they can’t explain why they don’t have it. I do have a copy of the “orders” however and like I said, I will post all of my fake, self-produced documents if someone will tell me how. The Sgt Major and the Master Guns should know what they are supposed to look like. Wasn’t it at least one of them that said they were responsible for giving them out. Give me your e-mail address and I will send them all directly to you and you can make all the fun of them you want, after all, it is very easy to change names and other pertinent information on those forms which are all printed on manila type paper or whatever color you call it. You would detect a change immediately. You all sound like Killeffer. I show him original documents, he looks them over and laughs and says, it’s fake. I must be one hell of a computer genius to be able to create all of those documents that by the way, match government documents to a tee. I even have copies… Read more »
*YAWN* *BUUUUURRRP!*,…
*FAAAARRT!*
Frankie, Ive seen enough of your documents. I’m not the one you need to con into believing your story, The BCNR is.
Their refusal to answer your constant nattering is probably due to them determiniing that you are full of shit and your documents are fake. As soon as you send something they probably just stuff it in with the copies of your fake shit and move on.
They have better things to do than dicker back and forth with a bullshitter.
You are a hard-headed egotistical fuck that decided that being a Vietnam Vet suddenly became the cool thing to do in 2006. So you conned your way into a high enough post in the MCL where members couldnt or wouldnt question you faked some awards and tried to pawn it off until you got caught.
Shitbird
Frankie-boi: perhaps the NBCMR declined your request for a personal appearance before them because they though you’d be offended when (not if) they laughed in your face.
The “self-produced” stuff you sent them as “proof” of your awards is, well, laughable. And the board members are human.
14 July 1965, the CMC issued Marine Corps Order (MCO 5750.2) which established the reporting requirements for command chronologies. “…… to be used for several purposes including future planning. My unit’s chronologies do not show up in the chronologies until December 1965. Combat Logistics Regiment 3, reactivated 1 July 64 at Camp McTureous, Okinawa as 3rd Shore Party Bn, 3rd Mar Div. That is where I was for one month (February 1965) before being attached TAD to III MAF to Danang. Our ship continued on further 50 miles south to Chu Lai where we sat off shore for around three months and then landed 24 May. Did a full beach landing but it was only an exercise (the troops did not know that) the Sea-Bees were already there building the Chu Lai Air Strip which became our primary duty, to guard the perimeter. We also went out on patrols regularly to search for VC supposedly in the area. We also were sent out on Search and Destroy Missions when intelligence reported VC moving in the direction of the air strip. The members of those S&D Missions were never the same people from the same units. They were made up of personnel, like myself, from various units. No one knew anyone else. Not like the normal grunt squad that did this kind of stuff on a regular basis as a single unit, all of whom trained together. We were just bodies that were expendable sent out to do grunt work. Most of the time, we found nothing or no one but we did run into small bands of VC on a few occasions. It was one of them, June 18, 1965 (I remember it well,my sister’s birthday). As soon as the skids touch down, we came under small arms fire. I ran for cover in the tall elephant grass and was going down into the prone firing position when my right knee struck a punji stick. Fortunately I fell sideways instead of forward directly into the remainder of the trap. My lucky day I guess. Stick hit my knee bone which… Read more »
Geez, Frankie-boi. You’ve been told several times how to get documents here to the site owner. His contact information – both e-mail and snail-mail (USPS) – are in the “Contact Us” link. It’s located in the black banner at the top of the site.
The site owner does not allow unrestricted posting of documents, photos, etc . . . , to the site. Only those who have his permission to post articles can do that. However, if you have “documents” you’d like posted for public inspection, Jonn will likely do that for you. E-mail or snail-mail them to him.
Is that simple enough for you, Visconi? Do you think you can handle that?
Personally, I think you’re bluffing and will come up with yet another excuse vice actually sending Jonn squat. Prove me wrong.
Quit p!ssing on our legs and telling us it’s raining, tool. You previously indicated those citations were “self-prepared” – purportedly because the originals had been “destroyed in a flood” (like we haven’t heard that excuse before). Ergo, that means you typed them from memory – or engaged in MSU operations.
I agree that the “citation writer” blew it. Personally, I think he simply didn’t do enough homework regarding KIAs during Operation Starlite before he started slinging BS – and got caught. But I guess I could be wrong.
Hondo, I rechecked that roster of people who received the Purple Heart from 6-65 to 11-65, and frank the crank’s name is not on it. Not anywhere. Period.
And it’s not a self-reported roster, either.
No argument there, Ex-PH2. We all strongly suspect he’s a LSoS.
But it is fun to see him squirm.
Ex-PH2,
According to Visconi’s tale he wasn’t awarded the PH until May of 1969. So you might check the roster of Class II reservists that received the PH after their release from active duty.
Already commented on that. There is so much trip on this blog I had a hard time finding your post so I put it somewhere else. Skid’s, you know, WATER helicopters? It was a UH-34 with two wheels in the front and one in the back. Skids is the name you grunts gave to the landing gear like they attach their own version of names to everything else. That was the way they talked. I just go from what I hear since I was not a grunt and didn’t spend ALL my time on helicopter missions. Skids is just a made up name because the chopper often moved slightly along the ground after it landed. I’m sure you are aware of the various “nicknames” that were given to pretty much everything even rifles and helmets and pretty much everything.
And yet, you profess not to understand what the term “rubber lady” means, Frankie.
Gee. Since you are aware of various “nicknames” given to various things, I’d have thought you’d have at least heard of that one too. You were there, right?
Not a grunt and way too young and I can even Googlize that.
/Frank is a turd muncher.
Hey, it’s you Killeffer you piece of shit! Every now and then you do come out of your hiding hole. By the way, even if I were a poser, even that would not compare to how low and dishonorable of a man you are. You are a spineless, chicken liver COWARD and that is the nice things about you.
Hey, it’s you Frank Joseph Visconi you piece of shit! Every now and then you do come out of your hiding hole. By the way, even if we were posers, even that would not compare to how low and dishonorable of a man you are. You are a spineless, chicken liver COWARD and that is the nice things about you.
You’re also a pussy and a FRAUD, a LIAR a TURD, a CUNT AND a slimy asshole tonguer who frequents truck stops, rest stops and various mens room trying to earn spare change.
/see how that works? Dickless shitbag
Bullshit Frankie, the Marines were not using skid helos to insert Marines in 1965. What is the name of the helo base just North of Chu Lia? You have not answered any of my questions about your time as a helo doorgunner. From your lack of response, I think you are a liar. Joe
Oh!! I know! I know! Pick me! Pick me!
Joe, this is gettin’ silly, isn’t it? I’ve never seen such ridiculous stubbornness in anyone except bernutsless. They must know each other.
You’re onto something Ex-PH2, I wonder if these guys have their own “Legion of Doom HQ,” somewhere. They must meet once a week here, with Paul K. Wickre leading the discussions, and people like Daniel Bernath, Dennis Chevalier, Frank Visconi, and others colluding with each other over a “How to Fake or Embellish Your Experiences for Dummies” playbook. 😀
Thebesig, with the internet, anything is possible these days.
I was even thinking of putting together a ‘Guide for SV Fakes and Poseurs’ using some of the claptrap they spout. Maybe put it up for pubbing by AD2099, after the next great war. But then, I realized that their behavior is so consistent (and boring), they most likely already have one, so I’ll wait until AD2100 to do it.
It is mundane, but important details like Joe pointing out the Marine Corps wasn’t using skid-equipped helicopters in Vietnam in 1965 that trip up the poseur every time.
Skids, you know, WATER helicopters. Haven’t you ever seen one. He shithead, it was you grunts that called them skids. I only picked it up from then. It may not be what they are commonly called bus as in everything else in Nam and other wars, guys attached their own verbiage to things. The choppers were UH-34’s, two front wheels and on rear.
Skids, you know, WATER helicopters. Haven’t you ever seen one. He shithead, it was you grunts that called them skids. I only picked it up from then. It may not be what they are commonly called bus as in everything else in Nam and other wars, guys attached their own verbiage to things. The choppers were UH-34’s, two front wheels and on rear.
Obviously Frankie-boi here doesn’t know Joe W’s history. (smile)
No I don’t. I have no idea who any of you are except for Killeffer. He I will never forget. Actually, I don’t care about who you are or what your history is. There is a big difference between the knowledge one has that does something every day than someone who has limited experience. You guys are all picking at straws.
Frankie-boi: (shaking my head) – Joe W was Marine Aircrew.
Stationed about 6 mi/10km north of where you say you were.
At the same time.
I think if anyone here knows USMC Aviation of the day – and what slang terms were used for same – it would be Joe W.
Do you walk on your schvantz wearing golf shoes as much elsewhere as you do here, fella?
OOpps! Francine has now been busted by another expert in the field. First a career Corpsman says his “injury” is inconsistent with reality and now an actual aircrewman from THE SAME TIME AND PLACE as little lieface Franny weighs in. Wasn’t your line “were you there when I was there?” huh fuckhead frankie? so, someone who WAS says you are a LSOS.
Give it up, go caress your fake awards and phony badges and Go the fuck away.
No, Hondo, but he did find the secret code for double-posts for comments.
And apparently, he doesn’t know the difference between the word ‘skid’ and ‘ski’.
And he doesn’t seem to know what ‘water’ helicopters actually sit on, either, so he just has to ‘do the double’ to flatten our resistance.
Like the BORG said, ‘Resistance is futile’… unless you’re just bored silly with his repetitive, dribble-braindead, unintelligible rants.
Frankie,
How did you get to the area where you got on the medivac choppers. In one account you state you were driven out about 10 miles in a jeep. Is that still your story?
He keeps contradicting himself.
Then he brings up ‘court’ and whatever other thorn he’s been sitting on.
And then it’s ‘all your fault’ that you won’t pat ol’ frankenwienie on the back and buy him a drink, or put him on a parade float.
So you’re wrong; he’s right and he’s going to turn into a flat tire on a hot asphalt road if he can’t have his own way.
Way to go, frank the crank. Thanks for letting us know you’re a spoiled, self-centered little snot.
Ok, I just put on my hip waders and went trough the updated posts today.
Heres some things that stand out.
1. Frankie says he submitted a letter that backed his claims of being “snatched up” and sent out on a chopper to recover wounded etc. The Letter was written by a former Marine Officer/Pilot.
This letter was rejected as proof to his claim.
MY OPINION: This letter was rejected because it was probably a broad statement by the former pilot saying that in some cases support personel were used to drop off supplies, pick up wounded Etc. The letter probably did not mention Frank Visconi by name or any actions he performed.
2. Frankie said he contacted his former XO ( Major Diable?,,, I may have Misread it) and the Major did not want to get involved because he wasn’t 100% sure and didnt want to get in trouble.
OPINION: The Major didn’t remember Visconi at all, but more important he didnt remember anything about the awards (Bronze Star, Purple Heart) being awarded,, something that probably would have stuck in his head. His Bullshit detector went off, so he politely just refused Frankie’s request, citing the fact he couldnt recall the incident. Which is 100 accurate, as it didnt happen.
3. Perhaps the most damning evidence is the statement by Frankie’s Former Cpl, Now retired Major Polderdyke( excuse me if I misspelled the name). You know the guy that Frankie is trying to protect from us, because he’s such a stand up guy. Major Poderdyke’s letter of support, as cited in his court case, supported his claim for the PUC and another award ( CAR?) to the BCNR.
OPINION. Frankie doesnt want Major Polderdyke contacted because although he backed Frankie’s Claim for the unit awards, he never mentioned the Bronze Star or Purple Hearts. Chances are Major Polderdyke, who was Frankies NCOIC for a year, knows Frankie recieved niether award.
He was my NCOIC from March to August, that doesn’t equal a year to me. He left on emergency leave in mid-August just prior to Starlite. We were on board ship fro March to the end of May so that means I was on the ground with him June, July and half of August. Get you shit together you dumb ass. You once again, twist everything around. Go back and read it all if you can’t deal with it. The only reason I know him that well was I knew he was from Michigan not far from where I lived and he kicked my ass a couple times. He was the one who sent me out on patrols and missions and he went along on most but not all, not the ones where there were Marines from several different units. Damn you guys have heads like rocks.
How conveinent. Seems like he would remember you “getting wounded” in June, then.
Of all these people you named, who put in the paperwork for your purple heart and bronze star frankie?
Somebody at company or battalion level had to have started that citation that mysteriuosly appeared years after you were out.
Shitbird.
In early 1965 the Vietnam war was still being referred to as a Police Action. It was not yet a War and we were strictly there to help the South Vietnamese help themselves. We were on the defensive. The first offensive operation, at least by the Marine Corps, was Starlite. We were told that if you were wounded you would not be eligible for the PH because it was not a declared war. Of course, you wouldn’t know that because you probably were not there at that time. Also, up to the CO. I spoke with one “grunt” who told me that his CO told them before they went out on an op that none of them better get wounded because if they did he would not put them in for a PH because that would make him look bad. Those are words directly from the mouth of a grunt that was there AFTER we went on the offensive. Instead of keeping you head tucked into this bullshit website, why don’t you go out and actually talk to some Marines who went through it all. Oh, that’s right, I forgot, You were EVERYWHERE in Vietnam and for the whole extent of the war so you know EVERYTHING that happened every single day in every single unit, operation, and so on and so on. You know it ALL. I’m so impressed.
” We were told that if you were wounded you would not be eligible for the PH because it was not a declared war.”
So naturally, you make up your own citation and try to get a Purple Heart Medal.
Like my grandpa used to say, wish in one hand and shit in the other… see which one fills up first.
“We were told if we we wounded we would not be eligible for the purplr heart because it was not a declared war”
That really rich, do you have a DivO citing that? Since It was never declared a war I guess nobody was written up for one and had to make up their own citations, just like you did.
John Forbes Kerry is a fucking moron, but he got himself 3 PH medals. What does that say about the intelligence of Frank?
Shitbird i was just 6 miles North of you. Joe
“We were told if we we wounded we would not be eligible for the purplr heart because it was not a declared war”
What a load of utter twaddle!
It that’s the case, then how come there are so many Marines on the roster for the 1965-1966 timeframe with Purple Hearts? 203 of them, and not one of them is named Frank Visconi.
Do you REALLY want to keep spouting this line of BS?
Or are you just going to switch gears again?
I cannot comment on that because I was not one of the people responsible. All I know is that it is pretty coincidental that it all came together in 1969. Shit happens!
I cannot comment on that because I was not one of the people responsible. All I know is that it is pretty coincidental that it all came together in 1969. Shit happens!
You don’t have to repeat yourself, Visconi. You may need to hear something multiple times to “get it”, but we don’t.
Other than your assinine remarks, you guys are running out of crap to fling at me so you are starting to get repetitive. Why don’t you swing over the the Stolen Valor link and pick out one of the hundred of INNOCENT parties you’ve “framed” with your lack of knowledge about the facts, and ride him for a while. Your shit is getting old, really! Just have someone tell me how to attach documents and I will give you more fodder to call fake and laugh at. F**king idiots!
Wow, Fwankie, you ARE scraping bottom, aren’tcha?
How very Christian of you, Frankie. Does your pastor know you use such words?
As a matter of fact, he does and he has called me out on it. But people like you can bring the worse out in anyone. I kinda liken it to coming face to face with the Devil himself. The whole group of you make the devil appear to be saintly. You guys are so full of yourselves I’m surprised you can distinguish one from another. You see, losers always fall back on something “off point” when they are stuck for an answer. That’s you I am talking about.
Stay on point jackass!
Did you just call yourself a Jackass? Wow, I think that is a first! Chevy will be so jealous.
Doesn’t surprise me a bit, GDContractor. The other day he forgot how to spell his own name.
Freudian slip, perhaps?
That’s called a type asshole! Suppose you’ve never made one of those.
Pot meet kettle. You should take your own advice, shitstain. You’ve dodged and danced around issues brought up to you. Stay on point, jackass!!!
“The whole group of you make the devil appear to be saintly.”
THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT!!!
Nice to know the company I keep is consistent.
Oh another thing, how can you claim the BCNR never analyzed your citations? Thats what they looked at to deny your claims. Did you expect them to carbon date the ink and paper.
These are people who have looked at more award citations than any of us combined ever will in a lifetime.
Their job is to get the records straight, and I imagine they take a lot of pride in getting awards in peoples records that were missed before discharge.
I imagine one of the most distasteful tasks they have is putting up with your bullshit.
Really a fucking citation from 1969 using a font not avaliable until the 1990s.
I would view that right there as the real point isn’t it? 3 times he tries to get awards entered into his records denied 3 times… I imagine that they want to do the right thing by Veteran to make sure they have all the awards they were entitled to, and probably have some large degree of latitude to make changes where they believe there is proof that the awards are legitimate and earned.
3 times this guy got rejected by them… with documents they found to be lacking to be nice about it.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot.
Shitbird.
I’ve already proven that the font supposedly “invented” in 1994 was among several fonts that were used way back well before 1969. In fact, in the 1800’s. Like many, it was not a popular font so it was taken out of circulation and then re-instituted into the font family. Also, many of those that introduce font’s saying they were their own invention, merely brought back a font that was taking out of circulation a long long time before. They just make a couple minor changes and call it their own. I’ve been down that road and have all the proof I need and am ready to present it in the federal court if necessary. Besides, other than Killeffer, no on, not one single government official ever questioned the font. They merely said the citations did not match the format outlined in the awards manual, and there are a whole bunch out there that do not conform to those standards because right in the manual, it states “There can be many varieties of style; awarding authorities may dictate specific guidance for their awards….and so on” Go to the manual and read it. Oh yea, I almost forgot, Shitbird!
Dipshit, the Font in question is the ones used on typewriters, not the historical font.
Shitbird.
OldDog, the ‘historical’ font, which frank the crank thinks he is referring to, would normally be a hand-set metal typeface, with slugs of lead, which is the source of the term ‘leading’ or spacing between lines of type. It’s used now for things like imprinting on book bindings and foil on handmade greeting cards.
The script he’s referring to is actually Spencerian script, which was used by calligraphers for important documents during the 19th century.
Nice try, drizzlewit. Not working so well for you, is it?
The doc’s are ready to fly. all you have to do is tell me how to do it. Or is it that you don’t want to see the real thing only the crap that Killeffer posted on his blowfish.com blog. Which, by the way, is ALL taken out of context. All of his bullshit is not factual. You will only find the real facts in the court documents. He got his slimy fingers on them and then twisted the words to fit his own twisted mind.
You have been told several times…
Email them to the admin, using the address under the “Contact Us” tab at the top of the page. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
I don’t think he actually has any hard copy documents to scan and/or send anywhere. I think it’s all balooney and hogwash and twatwaffel twaddle made up of moonbeams and dustbunnies and squirrel doots.
My cats are smarter than this wanker clanking titless WAVE.
You really are a stupid motherfucker. How many times do you have to be told how to do it? fucking loser, can’t even follow simple directions.
Or if scanning and e-mailing is beyond your abilities, Frankie-boi, you can send photocopies of them via snail mail (USPS). The postal address is also found under “Contact Us”.
Your bluff has been called, Visconi. Execute or STFU.
Frank at post timed 6:17PM you offered to email the documents. Correct? Okay if you will look at the Contact US link it says the Email Address if the site Administrator is as follows:
admin@valorguardians.com
That’s admin@valorguardians.com
There you go Frank, email them away. I am absolutely sure you know how to attach a document to an email and send it. You now have the address so please email them.
Frank, if you’re so set on getting the documents out in the open, create a Photobucket account (or Flickr, or whatever your feeble mind can handle), dump the documents into an album and then post the link to the album. A guy who is as smart as you say you are should have no problem with that task; I know my 9th grade daughter has been doing it for about 3 years. By the by, you do not want to start an argument on typography forensics on this forum. There are folks here who have the ability to measure kerns, em’s and en’s, as well as access to computer software that can discern with 99.999% accuracy whether or not a document was created with a computer printer. I’m one of them. So far, the documents I’ve seen are fake as fuck. Is that all you got? Not for nothing, when were you at the Broward County Sheriff’s Department? One of my professors (in Fraud Examination) at Florida Atlantic University is a 30-year detective with them. I’m sure he’ll be able to run your tenure with them down. I make my living as a healthcare fraud examiner. I look at fraudulent documents all day, every day. Gimme a glimpse of this wonderment you’ve created and I’ll give you my expert opinion. As for my bona fides, I was in the Navy from 1975-2012. Former Hospital Corpsman, retired Medical Service Corps Commander. I spent a lot of my career and a fair amount of time since I retired helping legitimate wounded warriors build a case to support their injuries. You are going about this precisely the worst possible way. If you were truly injured in the LOD, your first act would be to build your case upon EYE-WITNESS testimony from your shipmates. Then you would find supporting documentation from your health record, personnel record, unit records, etc., THEN you would present a credible case to the BCNR. If you think an 8404 corpsman would throw 8 stitches in you and not note in your field medical record, especially a potentially infectious punji… Read more »
VERY well said, OCD, +20 COOL POINTS!!
Is frank the crank pushing himself ahead of chevy chevette scooter?
I second what Proud said, in spades.
Dunno, Ex-PH2. But I think we now have a solid set of favorites for the “Fecal Four” (Bernie/Cheesie/Frankie/Roundie).
OCD – for the PH, the injuries needed to be documented by a “Medical Officer”, per SECNAVINST 1650.1. As the old saying goes, “if it wasn’t documented, it didn’t happen”…
Open Channel D,
The punji trap wound Frances claims was stitched up with “8 stitches in a cross pattern” he says.
I wouldn’t think that a corpsman or a doctor would stitch the wound but secure it in such a way that it could drain.
Your thoughts on that?
There’s no way a corpsman would stitch a penetrating punji stick injury in the field. The treatment modality was (and is) to clean the wound, cover it, and evacuate to a field hospital or BAS where a doctor or corpsman would debride and irrigate the wound,leaving an OPEN WOUND CHANNEL, and if indicated, a Penrose drain would be inserted. Delayed primary closure would usually occur on the fifth day post injury. All punji stick wounds would get a tetanus toxoid (or booster) shot, along with a course of IntraMuscular injections of penicillin and streptomycin at 12-hour intervals for 5 days. That injection schedule meant Limited Duty for the lesser injured, inpatient hospitalization for the worse injuries.
A punji stick injury was, for all the right reasons, a big deal injury. Closing the injury in the field would more than likely cause the patient to become septic in a matter of hours. They weren’t painting Mercurochrome of the end of those punji sticks.
It is possible that a superficial, lacerating vice penetrating wound might get sewn up in the field, but it wouldn’t change the need for a tetanus shot and antibiotics, both of which would have been entered into the Field Medical Record. Of course, that type of wound isn’t consistent with Frank’s recollection of the fairy tale he’s telling, so there ya’ go.
Open Channel D,
Very well done, it refutes Frances’ rendition of his wound.
And Killeffer, you’re just a pice of shit jealous asshole who never got above the rank of Corporal so no one else should have either according to your theory. The only thing you have to brag about is being Platoon (Oh, I’m sorry) Series Honor Man. I’m impressed!
Hell Francis,
I only served 22 months on active duty. Didn’t have enough time in grade to be a GENERAL! but I guess its possible now since I have 43 years time in grade as an E-4. I guess I need to check my mailbox for a letter from the Commandant.
Well I’m glad you’re impressed with me; I’m not in the slightest way impressed with you …but I am humored by you and your confusion.
I’m thinkin’ he probably actually nicked his knee playing with a knife/bayonette in supply, or caught it with the edge of a shovel when he was careless while on a dig slit-trenches detail. But that’s just speculation on my part.
So now you are all medical physicians too. The wound was cleaned, stitched and bandaged. No everyone is a sissy and has to be carted off to a hospital. Like I told you about the co-pilot who was shot in the foot. Was back in the air that same night.
Uh, Frank, you might want to read Open Channel D’s two comments above. He is a former Navy Corpsman and later was commissioned in the Navy’s Medical Service Corps. I’m guessing he probably knows what he’s talking about in this case.
I know what I’m talkin’ about in almost every case.
I’m jus’ sayin’.
OCD, doesn’t a large-opening puncture wound like a punji stick wound turn into a sucking wound if not properly treated?
They’re not something to be taken lightly,as I recall. But then, I have only two years working for a veterinarian while I was in college, and treated only punctures only large animals.
Not necessarily. Normally, when you think of a “sucking” wound, it’s through the chest wall and into (or through) the lung. Sometimes the throat.
Low belly wounds can give the appearance of “sucking” but it’s a different pathology. The body’s natural tendency is to expel foreign bodies and to close penetrating skin/tissue wounds. That’s why capillary refill shuts down, vein walls collapse, etc. In the case of a punji stick wound, especially if the stick has been coated in excreta, it’s important to keep the wound channel open until it can be debrided and cleaned.
Frank’s alleged “upper leg, below the knee” punji stick injury story is unique in that he claims to have fallen sideways, yet suffered an anterior injury to his “knee bone.” Assuming he means patella, there’s only about .4-6″ of skin and soft tissue between the surface and the patella, so not much to penetrate. Again, not sure how that can happen when falling sideways. At least not in a normal gravity environment.
We will NEVER see a direct reply doc. He knows he is busted on the “injury” he is claiming. Maybe he was hacked by Martians or rogue VC took over his account.
I wondered about that, because (many long years ago) my horse got a large puncture shoulder wound from a steel fence post that turned into a sucking wound. It went in at the front, up into the shoulder. I spent weeks massaging the air out of that, listening to the tissues pop.
Wow, a medical expert we have here. EVERYONE was treated the same. EVERYTHING in this entire world EVERYDAY is exactly by the book isn’t it. You guys slay me. No matter what one says, you find a way to twist it. Hi kids,Sicko, do you know the word sicko? That’s when an idiot has noting better to do than to nit pick everything to pieces. Now say it after me kids…sicko! Good! Listen dipstick, even to this day I have had cuts much deeper than I got from the punji stick and I just wash it off and cover it and go about my business. I can handle it. It’s only dirt or in that case, human waste. Yes, it would have become septic had it not been treated promptly. How about the guys in the field that lay there wounded for hours before they got to a hospital. By then the infection would have traveled through their bodies. They lived. Well, some didn’t but that’s because their injuries were probably too bad anyway. Wow, I’m learning so much on this blog. I may just self-produce an MD Degree and start practicing medicine. By the way, I’m a fifth degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do so beware!! Ahh, just kidding. I couldn’t figure out how to make up the certificate or I would be. Ah shucks! By the way, do you want me to scan and send you my degrees from Michigan. Never know, I may have self-produced them too!
Frank,
What was the name of the Ship that you and the MAJOR was on for 2 months?
If you were on a ship, why did you get out and dig a foxhole on the beach?
Does not make sense.
“Like many, it was not a popular font so it was taken out of circulation and then re-instituted into the font family.”
Oh. I get it now. He’s talking about the Popular Font for the Liberation of Visconistine.
Veal. Thursday. I thank you.
I thought it was the People’s Font of Visconistine:
“That’s 2/17 Air Cav folks! He’s here all week! Just finished his new comedy bonanza routine, getting rave reviews now, on Frank Visconi! The man, his lies and the big dropped on his head as a baby story! It’s a laugh riot! Come back tomorrow night for extra laughs!”
Frank, you stated:
“He was my NCOIC from March to August, that doesn’t equal a year to me. He left on emergency leave in mid-August just prior to Starlite. We were on board ship fro March to the end of May so that means I was on the ground with him June, July and half of August”
When you say “he”, you mean “Polderdyke”, correct?
Did Polderdyke return to NAM from leave?
He had two tours in Vietnam, AskAMarine.
Sorry, I typed in ‘two tours’ when I should have typed ‘three tours’.
My bad.
AskAMarine, that should read ‘three tours’, not ‘two tours’. Sorry. My bad typing fingers.
Damn Frank!!! I’ll post this again because YOU ASKED FOR THE INFORMATION!!! Email the documents as follows and I will include my original post of my response to YOUR request:
“Frank at post timed 6:17PM you offered to email the documents. Correct? Okay if you will look at the Contact US link it says the Email Address if the site Administrator is as follows:
admin@valorguardians.com
That’s admin@valorguardians.com
There you go Frank, email them away. I am absolutely sure you know how to attach a document to an email and send it. You now have the address so please email them.
Now Frank, DOCUMENTS TALK AND BULLSHIT WALKS. Send them in for the Administrator to review and he will “most likely” share them on the thread here. It is at his discretion. DO NOT take that as an excuse not to send them. If you send them he will at least post that you did so, whether he chooses shares them here or not.
He’s been told how to do that by multiple people, Sparks. He’s also been told how to “snail mail” them.
He knows what to do. I’m guessing he’s bluffing, and will never follow through.
Prove me wrong, Frank. Or just STFU and go away.
Either way, quit whining like a 4 year old who has been caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
He’s at Dennys, meeting a guy named Burkett…getting the docs any minute now….courage!
GDContractor: don’t think Burkett had anything to do with this one. Wrong font and margins. (smile)
I’m quite convinced of one thing now.
There are no documents. There is only zoolspeak and splatseal drivel.
And frank the wanker clanking crank is only returning here because he wants attention, attention, attention, all he can get for the low weekend cost of your time.
Frank, see what you wrote the below (in ” “). So, again, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE SHIP?
“Combat Logistics Regiment 3, reactivated 1 July 64 at Camp McTureous, Okinawa as 3rd
Shore Party Bn, 3rd Mar Div. That is where I was for one month (February 1965) before being attached TAD to III MAF to Danang. Our ship continued on further 50 miles south to Chu Lai where we sat off shore for around three months and then landed 24 May.”
It was big and grey…hey look, a squirrel!
Frank, you can gain some credabily with me by answering the helo questions that I asked before. What type of helo were you flying doorgunner on? What awards did you earn flying? What base were you flying out of ? How long were you a doorgunner and what squadron ? Joe
Joe Williams…Sir you gotta give Frank time to Google all that info before he posts something about the BCNR again instead of answering your questions anyway. Which he will NEVER answer. Just like he WILL NEVER email his documents to Jonn as he said he would. Part and parcel of being…a…LIAR.
The doc’s are right here ready to send. All I need it to know how to attach them
See, he’d be able to clear all of this up – if only he knew how to scan a document! Or if only he knew how to place documents in an envelope and drop them in the mail!
He has been instructed numerous times to email them to John or to upload them to a photo-bucket and then to provide a link.
Visconi: you have 3 options.
1. Scan the documents, attach them to an e-mail, and send them to Jonn. The e-mail address is under “Contact Us” found on the black banner near the top of the page.
2. Photocopy the documents and snail mail them to Jonn. That address is also under “Contact Us”.
3. Post the documents to a third-party site of your choice (PhotoBucket, Instagram, whatever), and post the link here.
If you are too dense to figure out how to do one of those three, you really shouldn’t be walking around without an escort.
Now, execute or STFU.
Darn Frank!!! I wrote it to you twice!!! Please don’t tell me after eight years of this “fight” that you do not know how to attach a document to an email! So, once again, send an email to this address:
admin[at]thisainthell[dot]us
That’s the one Frank. Attach your documents to an email and send to the address I have given you three times now. It is not rocket science Frank. The Administrator will review your documents and either post them, at his discretion, or make us aware that you DID IN FACT send them. Please don’t dismiss this again with, “I have them waiting but I need to know how to send them and where”. Please Frank!
Joe,
He wasn’t a member of a squadron, he was a 3041 supply admin clerk that was constantly snatched up by passing officers, never documented and sent out.
I know the answers, but I’m not going to post them. I see no reason to help this uselss turd polisher with his homework.
I just find it amazing that he can’t/won’t recall even one person he knew when he was over there, just one who could have been a buddy. Or a date on Friday night.
I’ve just e-mailed the Promotions Boards branch at HQMC asking for the promotion board messages for SSGT for the years 1968 and 1969 for the Marnie Corps Reserve. As soon as I receive a reply from them I will forward the info to Jonn and post here for all to review.
Frankie just don’t get it. ,,,, He is trying to say that he did a tour of vietnam where he hardly recalls anyone, just kept his head down and did his job, then suddenly years later these same people who didnt know he existed put him in for a bronze star and two purple hearts?
Recommendations would have to come from a witness (OIC). you dont even mention a unit.
Shitbird.
There is at least one possible explanation for why Visconi won’t provide that info, Just An Old Dog.
That possible explanation doesn’t exactly make Visconi look like a good and honorable “man”.
From Frankie – “It was one of them, June 18, 1965 (I remember it well,my sister’s birthday). As soon as the skids touch down, we came under small arms fire.”
Skids? What the hell kind of helicopter were you flying in?
Most likely it was one like this:
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3307383&prodFindSrc=pn&cp=2290621
or this one:
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12504718&locale=en_US&ab=TRU:tproduct_rr:Customers Also Liked:1
My son flies one just like that, his sister hates it when he uses her hamster as a bomb.
Jesus jumped up Christ on a crutch. Spew alert next time, please!
This is to the Master Gunnery Sergeant and the Sergeant Major. I know you won’t accept it but you have my sincerely apologies for my disrespect. Not once have I EVER disrespected the rank of MGySgt and/or SgtMaj. I have the greatest admiration for what you’ve achieved. Yes, you got my goat and I am sorry I let myself get out of hand. As you probably know from your experience, it’s like having fifty rounds coming at you from all directions at the same time. I know if you’ve been in that situation, you would be angry just like being in the field in war. Don’t tell me that bullets flying all around you from all directions didn’t make you angry. Again, my apologies. You can continue to berate me as I know you will, but my apology comes from the heart. I ask though, isn’t it getting a little out of hand right about now. WTF are all these people talking about? Squirrels, and all kinds of shit. Getting way off track here. If you/they feel I am a phony, then that’s your prerogative just stay on point. Call me poser, phony, wanna-be and all the names that apply but some of these stupid names are downright embarrassing to those sending them, not to me. Really, you all sound like kindergartners. It’s the first time in my life I’ve ever felt negative toward the Corps. Put me up on your websites and if I am stupid enough to respond to you like I have been, then take your shots but stay on target. Leave my family out of it too. You have a beef with me, take your shots. I wonder how many good Marines whose lives you’ve ruined or even caused them to have strokes. You know we are all getting pretty old now. Don’t you ever stop and thing enough is enough? Anyone can dig and find at least SOMETHING bad about anyone. It’s getting pretty old and I blame myself for letting all of you get to me. I thought I was smarter than that but… Read more »
That’s a start….now, instead of apologizing for your poor social skills and lack of spacial awareness on the internet, TRY APOLOGIZING FOR LYING ABOUT ILLEGALLY CLAIMING TO HAVE A COMBAT ACTION RIBBON, A BRONZE STAR WITH VALOR AND A PURPLE HEART!!!
You were a fucking supply clerk and had a few awards. Be proud of that.
JUST ADMIT THAT!!!!
DONE!!!!
BOOYAH!!!!
Then and only then will this go away. FIRST stop lying to yourself and THEN stop lying to all of us.
And Frankie,
While you are at it Don’t forget to apologize for the 2nd Purple Heart, too.
Frankie is more confused than a dozen blind lesbians in a fish market!!
Or a dozen blind gay men in a sausage factory, Proud.
I can see where that could be confusing….and funny as hell.
You’ll be long dead and gone before you get any apology out of me for LYING! I may mix up a few minor details now and then because I happen to be 68 years old and what we are all talking about here happened almost 50 years ago and you feel the need and the right to twist it into saying they are all lies. Apologizing is an admission and I don’t and never will do that, especially not to any of you who think EVERYTHING is a lie. Can’t wait to see how you tear apart all the doc’s I sent in. You’ve already made up your mind about me and the hundreds of others that are posted on you idiotic website that supposedly exists to show how righteous all of you are when all it is used for is to get you jollies when your not busy whacking your willy! Don’t be ashamed of that though. I do it myself now and then.
Just like the other STOLEN VALOR Arrogant assholes. Frank.
Take it to the grave BUT know this….
THE INTERNET IS FOREVER.
From here on out *EVERYONE* will know you’re a FRAUD.
You’re only fooling yourself now BUCKO.
Did you… You just… I don’t think I’ve ever been lost for words. Good job Frank. Or more suitable words I guess would be good “hand” job.
“I wonder how many good Marines whose lives you’ve ruined or even caused them to have strokes.” None that I know of, Francis. And I agree that folks should stay on point. I am interested only in those two Purple Hearts. I really couldn’t give a rat’s ass about anything else. There are so many comments, I can’t keep up with them all. When I last visited the issue of the two phantom Purple Hearts, I understood that you claimed them by virtue of having been twice injured in a combat theatre but that there are neither medical nor other official military records to support either Purple Heart. Has anything changed?
There are a bunch of .jpgs showing up in my Inbox from Frank, so it looks like he figured it out. But give me some time to look at them, OK?
Hmmm. Didn’t expect that.
Looks like Frank actually decided to “put up”.
This might be interesting after all.
Cool. Let us know what you find out, Jonn.
Frank,
Hopefully you are still reading this Blog.
If you are there, please answer my question (4th time):
Which ship were you and the Enlisted/later Commissioned Marine was on for 2-3 months (MAR-MAY 1965) while waiting for your unit?
Also:
When did you have your stitches (from the Punji Stick) removed?
Where did you have it removed?
When did you have it removed?
Who removed your stitches? USMC? Navy Corpsman? US Army? Self?
Surely you remember the name of your ship as well as who, when, where you had your stitches removed.
Now how in the hell am I supposed to remember the name of the ship we embarked on from Oki almost 50 years later. I have no idea. Look it up for yourself.
Stitches: Have them removed? That was 1965 with an aid station somewhere nearby. The wound eventually healed (I was given an ointment and a small roll of gauze to put on it to keep it moist so it could heal and the gauze was to keep it clean which was pretty difficult). Back then they didn’t have stitching material that just dissolved. After a couple weeks when they wound was shut, I just left them in there until they came out themselves. I did a bit of crawling around on my stomach and knees in those days and eventually they just broke up and I pulled the remnants out myself. I son’t understand this and I know you will make something WRONG out of it like there is an EXACT procedure they used back then to remove stitches. NOT EVERYTHING is done, even know, according to the book or the norm. The aid stations had their hands full of people that needed more attention than me. Even today you don’t go back to the doctor the get your stitches removed.
Me. “When I last visited the issue of the two phantom Purple Hearts, I understood that you claimed them by virtue of having been twice injured in a combat theatre but that there are neither medical nor other official military records to support either Purple Heart. Has anything changed?”
Francis. That’s a great many words when one (“No”) would have done just fine.
That’s right shitbird. That is exactly what I am fighting the BCNR about. NOTHING on my medical record page…blank! And I already told you that I had been to the aid station on a couple other occasions one of which I got a tetanus shot. But your memory and recall is very much selective isn’t it.
Francis. You called me shitbird. I don’t like to be called shitbird, Francis. Now, don’t go apologizing to me, Francis because of you, I just might feel guilty about how I’m going to deal with you from here on it, you poser sonofabitch. Button up and hunker down. Or don’t.
How do you remember the ship you were on? The same as anyone else, you moron.
How come I can remember a guy I dated almost 50 years ago and he remembers me? It must have meant something or neither of us would remember.
How come a LOT of other Marines can remember the ships they were on before they went ashore some 49 years ago and you have conveniently forgotten?
Just how stupid are you, frankie, you wanker clanking fustercluck?
You are failing and flailing very badly.
I don’t even remember the name of the ship I was on from San Diego to Hawaii to Yokahama to Okinawa. Who gave a shit then and even now. You accuse me of having braggard shit all over my truck and my house when there is none. But you guys must have all kinds of photo’s and who knows what pasted everywhere. I didn’t carry a camera around with me while I was in Nam. One guy said to me, on one of these asshole blogs by the way, “after you were wounded, why didn’t you go to your CO to make sure he recorded your injury”? How fricking dumb is that. Like I’m going to run to my CO and say, “Hey Major, I have this here wound and I want to make sure you are doing you job and have it recorded. Now show me the papers and if you haven’t done it yet then do it now while I am standing right here”. You guys are dreamers and certainly come from a different Corps than I was in.
When other Marines on the same tour of duty can tell us how they got there and the name of the ships they were riding, you have a conveniently faulty memory lapse.
Do you REALLY EXPECT ANYONE with even the slightest bit of common sense to believe that load of BS??
Do you? Are you atually that dumb?
I might be abel to tell you my license plate numbers in 1968 to 1970, but I can tell you what cars I bought and drove.
Just how stupid do you think we are?
Just keep cranking out the crap for us, will you? It makes the weekend shorter.
I’ll feature you as the next SV asshole in B&B#2, when the Team gets back from Kyrzakistan. Promise!!!
After 30 years I can still remember the name of the Aircraft that flew me home. It was PanAm’s Clipper of the Seas. Some things you just can’t forget, especially when it deals with significant life events.
It’s called a LOD, dumbass and anyone could and can get them for illnesses and injuries.
‘Who gave a shit then and even now’ — your words, frankie-boi, your words.
Who gave a shit? The guys who were getting shipped over there, who might not come back, that’s who. They took pictures, kept journals – however small those were, made notes in pads of paper while they were in-country learning how to survive. Because they knew that some day they might NOT come back and they wanted someone to know they were alive.
That’s who gave a shit.
Obviously, you didn’t.
Frank. Please. Now you’ve gone and got yourself a D-Handle shovel and are really digging a hole. All the Marines and Sailors I have known (and that is more than 50 years BTW) can recite every ship they have ever been on, esp one taking them to a war zone. I’ve also known paratroopers that ad Punji wounds. These were taken very seriously and were not treated as “take 2 salt tablets and drive on” wounds.
Read the threads on Chevy, Round Ranger and others. You’re going down their path and it ain’t going to be pretty. Cut your losses now. Confess and slide back into anonymity. You served honorably. Don’t screw it up now.
“Don’t screw it up now.” It’s too late for that but there may be time to unscrew it.
I dunno, 2/17, it looks like he’s put himself in an “un-unfuckable” situation!
It’s beginning to sound more and more like John Kerry wounds. Get a scratch while on duty and cry for a Purple Heart.
Let’s do the math.
Promoted to Sgt 01 12 66 (1 Dec 1966)
Discharged from active duty 29 07 68 (29 Jul 1968).
That’s 20 months time in grade, 20 months of observed performance as documented on fitness reports.
Entered the inactive Reserves. Didn’t occupy a Reserve billet, didn’t go to drills, didn’t do anything in the Corps. NO OBSERVED PERFORMANCE. NO FITNESS REPORTS.
Bull-fucking shit, Frank. You didn’t enough TIG to be considered for SSgt when you left active duty. That inactive Reserve time doesn’t count towards TIG towards SSgt. You’d have had to be in the Active Reserves, filling a billet and receiving observed fitness reports.
You’re lying.
That’s what I said here: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=41610&cpage=4#comment-1222755
Thank you, Marine__7002.
Not trying to defend this guy, but the Time in Grade and time in Service could vary from MOS to MOS.
Some MOSs promoted much faster then the others. Having 18 Months time in grade to be “in Zone” for SSGT isnt out of the question.
HOWEVER, The board generally meets once a year. I have no idea What time the board for SSGT met in 1968, If it was aerly he would not have had Time in grade, if it was later he would not have been looked at because of his EAS. In General his EAS alone would have been a disqualifer for promotion, as you generally have to do 2 years time in grade to be promoted to a Staff NCO rank. At any rate he is claiming he was promoted in the reserves. If he was a non-drilling reservist, he was getting no Time in Grade. There is absolutely no reason for the Marines to waste time looking at promoting people who are inactive.
There are two documements that will easily proove or disprove Frankies claim to being promoted to SSGT. First of all the would be an ALMAR released that year with the names, MOSs and precedence numbers of all Marines promoted to SSGT. Second, the Week or so before his number came up there would be an ALMAR that came out with the names and precedence number of ALL Marine SNCOs to be promoted the following month. That ALMAR served as authority to promote those Marines. Every promotion I got as a SNCO was Based on those ALMARS. I was promoted on the first of that month, with a “dummy” Warrant for the ceremony, and the Actual Warrant from CMC woulf arrive a weel or so afterwards. By the way SNCO Warrants from CMC are a bit nicer than what your “copy” is.
Damn Francine, you are really stomping you feet today!!!!
Frank, listen (look) here. To an outsider whose never served, your story could almost sound plausible, but you’re not dealing with outsiders here. These are the men and women that have been there and done that, one of them brought me a shirt. Even I can see the problems with your claims plus you’ve admitted to wearing a medal not on your records (CAR) and said that no matter what you will continue to do so. That right there is the definition of Stolen Valor. Just because you feel as if you’ve earned it or because others are doing it you think this is ok? That’s the excuse my 13 gives me about sneaking make-up at school. I’d expect better from a Veteran especially one who’s been fighting for 8 years to have his records changed. If I was in a fight to prove I’m what I say I am, you can beat my sweet ass (it’s cute too) I’d be squeaky clean in all areas pertaining to my ordeal. I would not be an admitted fraud in part.
Can you try to understand our position? There is some that are trying very hard to see things your way, we just can’t get our heads that far up our asses. But I do wish you luck, a man your age should have everything “right” in this stage of life.
Well Lilyea. When are you going to post my doc’s so your band of brothers can find everything that’s wrong with them. Check them close. You may find what your looking for and see some spots where I made a mistake when self- producing them.
Well Lilyea. When are you going to post my doc’s so your band of brothers can find everything that’s wrong with them. Check them close. You may find what your looking for and see some spots where I made a mistake when self- producing them.
Is there an echo in here?
Echo? Why, yes, there is.
Echo?
Well Lilyea. When are you going to post my doc’s so your band of brothers can find everything that’s wrong with them. Check them close. You may find what your looking for and see some spots where I made a mistake when self- producing them.
Or is it against your website ROE to post the truth???
Do something useful and “Lighten up, Francis.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k
If you can’t, kindly STFU!!
Is it against your ROE to admit when you are wrong, Francis?
Remember what I told you earlier. If your documents prove your case, you won’t have a more vocal proponent than Jonn Lilyea. You seem to be certain you’re correct, so be patient. If what you sent Jonn is accurate, you’ll be vindicated.
Francis. You called me a shitbird. I don’t like to be called shitbird, Francis. Now, don’t go apologizing to me, Francis because if you do, I just might feel guilty about how I’m going to deal with you from here on it, you poser sonofabitch. Button up and hunker down. Or don’t.
Give it a freakin’ rest, Frank! Jonn doesn’t work for you. He will get to it whenever HE chooses, if and when he chooses.
After supposedly 8 years, and you dragging you feet sending him the “docs,” what’s your friggin’ hurry?
Frank- It’s a damn shame you cannot remember the name of the ship you lived on for 2 months.
Followup question:
I know this is a longshot but do you recall ever accidentally shooting down a C130 H model?
Going for the trifecta, I see.
I can’t believe he can’t remember anything about it, not even the ship’s nickname. When you’re in crowded quarters like that, where the bunks are 6 to 12 high and the whole tier gets splattered if the guy on top pukes, you’d remember stuff like that. And the food, whether it was good or bad. Things like that. And SOMEONE had a camera, because there are photos all over the place now from them there Olden Times.
But from this snake oil salesman…? He can’t remember anything except the stuff he can dig up out of Wikiland and the drips and drabs of a few other things.
@ Ex-PH2
It odd too, that there has been absolutely no one backing him up here…No puppets, no friends, no family No One…Its almost sad really. Not one single buddy anywhere to be seen.
Wonder why that is….
Yeah, no buddies, no anedotes from the fighting holes… something does not jive here.
Jonn is a very honorable man. If your paperwork is in order he’ll be the first to write a post apologizing and then he’ll line all us for a spanking (I’ll be first!) Then we’ll all say we’re sorry. But if they don’t prove you right, well let’s just say your meat won’t be the only thing getting beat on you today.
Yeah! You like that spanking, don’t you?
Why do I get a sneaky suspicion that if John post he documents that Francine will claim that John altered them!!!!!!!
Wizard?
What kind of odds are you giving on this one?
@jedipsycho (Certified Space Shuttle Door Gunner)
7lb block of cheese to 1 ham with bone in.
What about grapes? All good bets have grapes. Or is salad bars? I’m always confusing the two.
I am looking forward to the TWO Purple Heart entries.
Can we get a sneak-peek. The Purple Hearts are there, right Jonn?
Geezz, you guys give Jonn a chance to get things in order. You remind me of my Springer Spaniel, that used to mug me when I came in the house with the groceries!
Frank: as one seasoned citizen to another, let me help you. You should create a web page with all of your documentation and there you can make hilarious remarks about folks here on TAH. Come up with a cool title…you know, something like “Evidence”. Then when someone here asks you a question you can say something like: don’t you idiots read? It’s all on my “Evidence” page!” I’ll bet that will work for you.
Frank,
On 10 April 2014, 5:13pm, you wrote:
“Chopper was right there shortly after and we were brought back to the Base Camp where a Corpsman stitched me up…
The door gunner was not KIA. That was a mistake the writer of the citation made, not me.”
Your PH Citation that you submitted reads:
“While on the HELICOPTER returning to the Command Post, PFC Visconi received treatment for his wounds…”
Your BSM w/V that you submitted reads:
“On two of these occasions, it became necessary for PFC Visconi to take up the position as door gunner on the helicopter after the Marine manning the weapon WAS MORTALLY WOUNDED.”
You remember the Punji Stick incident, yet what you now remember contradicts what is on the PH citation.
You now remember the Marine door gunner was not KIA and you now acknowledge whoever wrote the citation made a mistake, “not me.”
The door gunner was shot in the throat. The pilot of the chopper was Capt. Howard Henry and co-pilot was Lt. Ramsey Myatt. Henry later made Major and was KIA in 1969. Myatt made Captain and resigned his commission because the idiot records department lost track of him while he was in the hospital for six months after being wounded. They didn’t even know where he was. He was so pissed when they finally found where he was and promoted him, he left the Marines.
Hey Sprinkle Toad… Please, just stop..you are arguing against people who have far more and greater knowledge of all things Military than you could ever hope to know. You are having a terrible twos temper tantrum and that is very embarrassing to witness. You have been found guilty of your Fraud and your Stolen Valor theft. There is nothing you can do that will change that. Continuing to try to fight the BCNR is not a smart move. Three times they have denied you. They are not now nor ever going to award medals that you did not earn no matter how many lawsuits you file. You appeared to have had a decent enough career. Be proud of that. Not everyone can be or should be a Super hero. Heroes are ALL those that served no matter what capacity. The Military needs all rates and ranks to function. Some can and do more than others. The rest of us make sure they have what is needed to get the job done. There is no shame in that. Medals and honours are nice and all. But they do not change what kind of person, Soldier, Sailor, Marine or Airman you are in your heart. Those pieces of paper, cloth and medal are lovely if you want bragging rights. But I will give my last dollar that all those Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen that have them would rather not have them. People do not sign up for Military Service (or in some cases Drafted), with the idea that they want to win all kinds of accolades, attention etc. They did their jobs and prayed to get home intact and alive. Those that did not deploy, prayed for the safety and well being of their comrades. NEVER ONCE did anyone say “Well hell, if I do this I had better get a damn medal and recognition for it”. Do you see how stupid that sounds and how you are being? Give it up and stop bringing so much SHAME to your family, yourself and the Marines. Actually to ALL VETS and Currently… Read more »
He’s in Clarksville, TN? What’s with all the phonies coming out of the woodwork in my neck of the woods lately? When his documents turn out to be bullshit, someone make a nice wanted poster of this guy so I can hang it all over Clarksville.
OK, lets see if this works;
If you click on the “View Album” link it will take you to my Photobucket thingie that I haven’t used in years and see the full sized documents, I hope.
DOUBLE FUCKING FACEPALM
OMG. What is all this? I just scanned this for a few minutes. I came to a halt about 3 in when I see B Paris France, 18 Mat 1947 on the BSM with V citation. Huh? WHo are the other citations? Oh well.
I see hippies wanting to impeach Bush. I’m having flashbacks! O.M.G. Can I go re-up? 😀
interesting photo bucket Jonn. Lotta good pictures there. Then there’s some crap in the middle of barely legible typed documents with handwritten comments. Boring crap. Funny how all of those “self produced” documents somehow never made it into official records despite allegedly being produced and signed by official offices.
I’m sure the phony in question has been hacked by Martian/VC space critters.
Well only being a Deep Water Challenged Sailor, I am kinda dumb…
Could some please please explain to me why ALL the signatures and side notes look like they were written by the same person?
The side notes are written by ME dipshit. They were notations I made on them because they are exhibits in court, or are you now a law professor too. I’ve been trained to mark my evidence and place small notes on those that I think might need further interpretation. Once again, grabbing at straws.
It was a rhetorical question there Sprinle Toad.
Them being written by you is obvious as are the signatures. Those are YOUR signatures as well.
Oh and Frank? I would much prefer to be a DIPSHIT then a VALOR THIEF such as YOURSELF.