Clinton won’t be prosecuted
I’m not surprised that FBI director, James Comey announced that Hillary Clinton won’t be prosecuted for being “extremely careless” in handling classified email on her private server, you know, the same type of behavior that would have got any of us tossed in the slammer. From Fox News;
“Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case,” Comey said.
Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, did not immediately respond. Her Republican rival, Donald Trump, did — blasting the FBI’s recommendation.
“FBI director said Crooked Hillary compromised our national security. No charges. Wow! #RiggedSystem” he tweeted.
If you thought that anything different would happen, you haven’t been paying attention the last several years. From the Director’s remarks;
Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).
None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.
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We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.
So, it seems pretty open and shut, right? Well, no;
Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent.
Yeah, “no reasonable prosecutor” who doesn’t want to have their lifeless body recovered from Fort Marcy Park.
And, oh, by the way, this announcement comes as Barack Obama begins campaigning with Clinton today.
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It’s like they don’t even care that it’s obvious the fix is in. They know that there’s a vast herd of sheep out there that will vote for this obnoxious bitch no matter what.
I shutter to think of what a Clinton presidency will be like.
You won’t have to think. You’ll know soon enough.
^This^
It’s official… we live in a Banana Republic.
Calling the way our inbred self serving political class runs the country a banana republic is an insult to banana republics
It is rumored that Ben Franklin actually said, when queried what kind of government the Constitutional Convention decided we’d have, “A banana republic, if you can keep it.”
It appears ol’ Ben was right.
When does it become time to dust off the old Woodland Camo and go to ground?
No, they don’t care, because they know we are not willing to go to the lengths necessary to change what’s wrong and fix what’s broken. They will do exactly as they please.
What Pinto Nag said … It’s damn near criminal how relatively few citizens know what is going on. The ones not at the mall have their face buried in the newest smart phone or are in their safe space. I honestly do not believe the American public has been so detached and unconcerned with what is taking place in this country than at present. As more and more snuggle to the teat of government, the number of those concerned will become even fewer. Our lords in DC who pass outrageous regulations/laws/whatever from which they exempt themselves know they can get by with doing almost anything. Who is going to stop them? Congress? They have been asleep for years. Their primary function is to be reelected. Think the majority of them really care about Joe Six Pack? I don’t. The Supremes? The voters? Really? Remember, they’re at the mall. There is no smiley face at the end of this fiasco. Think ‘things’ can’t get worse? Wait about six months. Can’t stomach to vote for either of the two likely nominees? Then don’t and hope for a positive outcome in January. BTW, there will be no positive outcome if wideload prevails. Can’t get worse? Hide and watch, friends. Some say Trump is an unknown entity capable of doing almost anything. Could be that’s what we need. Probably true, but could the ‘unknown’ be any worse that what we know with certainty wideload will do? Like your 2nd Amendment rights? Bye, bye. Like your freedom of speech? Ditto. Want to hear your pastor preach without being influenced by big brother? Forgetaboutit. Don’t want to pay even more taxes to support even more people whose only contribution is to produce carbon dioxide? Sorry, pay up. So stay home in November and come back early next year and tell how your life and/or the social fabric and/or security of this nation has been improved. Blessings …
Did I hear the FBI director correctly? Apparently No intent = No Crime. If thats the case, I need a few speeding tickets overturned. Recklessness is not a criminal offense!
Parking tickets? Hell, Petraeus was charged with unauthorized removal and retention of classified material -no ‘intent’ qualifier there- and he’s just the most notable name of many people who’ve been charged for the verifiable things Mrs. Clinton has done.
Lesson learned: If you’re going to mishandle classified information, run for President so you’re suddenly too big to charge?
I think the lesson is to have a political ally who can strong-arm the FBI director into ignoring both the law and the obviously criminal behavior in question.
The plain language of 18 USC 793(f) doesn’t require intent for a felony to be committed. All it requires is silence when one has knowledge that classified defense information has been mishandled.
I wonder if ol’ Dave *intended* to put his dick between his biographer’s legs?
Well, I would have. She was pretty hot.
If so, then there are a few folks in the Federal slam who should be getting out in a couple of days…
No, they don’t care, unless there’s something in it for them.
Well, what goes around, comes around.
Say it with me; “At this point, what difference does it make?”
I know people that were fired for autoforwarding their government emails to their personal email accounts. Just wait until the next security breach at your work, the offenders will be pulling the Hillary card in a heartbeat. And good luck to all of you SSO’s out there, your job is about to get way more interesting.
I know an O-3E who couldn’t produce a classified message at morning turnover with the CO. It had come in during our watch the night before. Bye, bye. As much as I despise that she gets a pass, I think I more despise the pompous MSM who are now so quick to remind us peons that they have said from day one that she did nothing wrong.
The problem is, she DID do something wrong. Many somethings wrong. We heard it straight from Comey’s mouth. She violated the law, tens, hundreds, and thousands of times at that. There’s no getting around the fact that she did things wrong, very wrong.
He pulls it together quite well though when he says, “while we’re not going to charge her, I caution anyone else not to do the same thing.” Hillary gets to do whatever she wants, you will get sent to federal pound me in the ass prison.
Yet again:
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
Hillary is working to be queen of the pigs. She’ll be the queen pig in a pantsuit.
Yeah, this is my shocked face…
I was expecting at least a solid wrist-slapping out of this. Perhaps forcing her to actually sit through her annual IA training for once. I am disappoint.
I guess I can’t understand why this wasn’t taken to a federal grand jury for its determination…I realize that they are viewed as a prosecutor’s rubber stamp but would give legitimacy to any “decision.” I mean really, “extreme carelessness” doesn’t equal gross negligence? Any lawyers out there with a view?
And another thing, back when I was an “insider”, I had the experience of conducting several investigations into suspected compromise of classified information….unifomed “kids” went to the brig for much less..sickening
It appears that the legally charged and significant word “recklessness” was purposefully and deliberately avoided and carelessness used as its innocuous substitute.
They “Care Less” about the law,for certain
The other day, the AG chick announced–seemingly out of nowhere–that she would follow the investigators’ recommendations, whatever they might be. That was a big, big flag that Wide Load was about to be forgiven her indiscretions, if not illegal acts and omissions. No way the AG chick says that if the then-pending recommendation was to seek an indictment.
This is the most corrupt, evil shit I’ve seen in my life. I think the Democrats made a big error that could cost them the election. This only threw fuel on the Trump fire.
And they continue to do things like that. They don’t care. The Government has been bought.
I honestly hope you’re right
Time for the Russians via guccifer 2.0 to release some more good stuff…keep it on trickle for the next several months…c’mon, Vlad, do what the u.s government won’t!
As much as I would LOVE an October surprise, I’m not holding my breath.
This bitch is Teflon inside and out.
/Yeah Old Teflon vag.
Someone else (Hondo, et. all) check my sanity with regards to the following: “especially regarding intent.”
Last time I checked the particular statutes in question: There is no “intent” proof needed for “miss-handling of classified” and that gross incompetence/negligence was in fact a reason you could be charged?
Checked Hondo’s link above (thanks again Hondo) and while I’m not a lawyer, a simple and in-depth plain language search for “intent” in 18 U.S. Code 793 (f) and (g), reveals NO, Zero (0), Zip, Ziltch, Nodda results…..
It does however mentions “through gross negligence permits”, “having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed”, and “If two or more persons conspire to violate”
So not only does POTUS get to re-write laws but the FBI does now too?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
I am shocked, SHOCKED I tell you….oh wait no, the opposite of that.
Once she is the POTUS maybe we should all follow her example and just send out classified email everywhere. Fuck it. Send it straight to the Chinese, NORKs and Iranians. It will save us all time.
You gotta be fuckin’ shittin’ me right now…
So the story about Bubba Clinton going to Arizona to play golf in the 110 degree weather was a sham? You got to be shitting me.
It pays to have one’s hubby just “show up” and have a private chat with someone who owes her federal career to that very same hubby.
Loretta Lynch will get to keep her job as U.S. Attorney if Hillary gets elected.
I speculate that was just one of the things that was discussed in that 30 minute meeting on the tarmac.
My bet is that Bill offered Loretta Lynch an appointment to SCOTUS if she let Hillary off the hook.
Comey could get the US Attorney General job as his reward for going along with this.
No go for any Loretta for the Supremes movement…as long as GOP are in control of the Senate. The Hillary investigation has put a long lasting stink on LL. Of course if Hillzilla becomes Pres & Dems get back control of the Senate….
Funny, I’ve seen guys get their dicks hammered flat for less egregious shit than this, an no intent there either.
Think “Leavenworth for losing a typewriter ribbon uses to type a TS paper” type of hammered flat. Intent? Nope. Guilty? Yup!
this will transform into “but she was Innocent according to the FBI” in less than five seconds.
You knew the fix was in, but you hoped for honesty…but in your hearts you know she could be found with a bloody knife in her hand standing over Bill’s lifeless body – and not be charged. “The best Justice system money can buy” seems appropriate about now.
Ayup.
“…there is evidence that they were extremely careless in the handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”
To me, that’s just a nail in the coffin that serves proof of her sheer incompetence and that she can’t be trusted with anything important – up to and including holding the office which she is running for.
Sadly, there is a breed of American who doesn’t care about this sort of thing and will vote for her lying, incompetent ass anyway.
What is the difference between “extremely careless” and “gross negligence”? That is probably what Slick Willie was telling Lynch on the airplane.
Somehow that secret information made its way from a secure network to Hillary’s network without any negligence or intent on ANYONE’s part, not just Hillary’s.
There’s an old saying, “Sewage rolls downhill”. Evidently it doesn’t roll at all in Hillary world.
Slick Willie was more likely telling AG Lynch this:
“Let Hillary walk, and if she’s elected she’ll appoint you to the SCOTUS”.
And just watch, if Hillary is elected, Comey will then become the Attorney General after Lynch moves up to SCOTUS.
Nothing to see here, folks. Just move along. This is nothing but old news.
Now, let’s get back to talking about all of the free shit that we’re promising you…
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
“Gross negligence” was what Billy spilled on Monica’s dress.
Here’s a nice explanation that was written 3.5 months ago
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/18/how-we-now-know-that-hillary-clinton-will-not-be-prosecuted-for-anything/
Sloppy, inept negligent, derelict. Great campaign endorsement by the FBI
Some animals are more equal than others.
Considering that those characteristics describe most of her voting base as well I’m not sure that will hurt her.
We can have a field day with all of this but towards what end? The fix was in. There’s nothing more to it. If the voting public doesn’t mind, the unindicted crook will be the next chief executive, appointing and nominating people for positions that include FBI director, US AG, Sec of State, and so on and so forth.
Hillary will not be prosecuted? Really! Who would’ve guessed! I guess this means Loretta Lynch will get here Bill Clinton promised post of Ambassador to the Galaxy.
When reached for comment, Chelsea Manning responded with “Bitch please.”
Hahaha…BRILLIANT!
I don’t think the timing on this is an accident – we all know 6 months is an eternity in politics and the election is 4 months away. I think the Clintons were pushing for this to come out as soon as possible with the assumption that by the time the election comes around we’ll have had both conventions, and a lot of other stuff will have happened that will push this down “below the fold” for most voters.
Interesting point.
I knew it was coming a year ago. Nonetheless, for the first time in my adult life, I am sitting here wondering if I wasted twenty one years serving a country that no longer exists
Oh, yes. Many times, I feel the same way.
And I thank God that both my parents are in heaven. They would be beside themselves about what this country has become.
The Rule of Law is dead.
This is my surprised look.
And its time for everyone to buy another AR-15 or three.
Ah … it ain’t over ’til DNI et al determines whether she will ever be able to hold a clearance again.
In any other election cycle this would be a serious problem for Hillary but I think her campaign judged (correctly) that the GOP is so crippled and riven with dissent that even this will not be enough to keep her out of the white house.
Yep. Those morons in the Republican leadership handed the election to that Jezebel.
Yep, with all the rest of you who are disappointed, but not surprised.
On the other hand, she was not exonerated. Comey did not say that she is innocent. He actually itemized all the elements of the crimes she committed. Hmmm. Maybe what he just did was tell the world that she’s a crook but that he and his agents can’t do anything about it. Yet.
She may be in a less secure position now than she was before. Gonna hafta give that some thought.
bingo
It all depends on whether Trump plays it right.
This is as close as you can get to saying things are on hold until November 4th.
The answer to all of these shenanigans and this tomfoolery is not to vote for Madam Eel, Wide Load, Queen LaTeflon, The Bitch, or, if you insist, Hillary Rodham Clinton. She owes much to many and they all will be paid with juicy appointments or reappointments. She can’t do any of that if she is not elected. Benghazi.
240 years and 1 day.
“Equal Justice for All” is inscribed on the Supreme Court Building, it should be chiseled off.
Is the Republic dead and no one wrote the obituary.
morons all!
Maybe if she had just helped the FBI and posted her indiscretions on FaceBook. The FBI seems to do well breaking cases in which people make certain admissions or solicit help in making bombs and such.
As are many of you, I am a descendent of at least two men who participated in the American Revolution.
My family members participated in the War of 1812, War between the States, WWI in Europe, WWII in the Pacific and my Uncle and I served in Vietnam. My son-in-law was in Kuwait & Iraq.
I have a much greater understanding of the personal struggle of those who chose liberty and to be free of a tyrannical government in the mid to late 1700’s.
I do believe we are facing the same struggle today. It saddens me to even think this, let alone to say it.
Fix Be In.
You know what recommendations are? Right, they’re just that. There is nothing binding in a recommendation. Affidavits are written all the time in appllications for w awarrant. Sometimes the requested warrants are not issued. Imagine if the system was such that the judiciary did not consider the facts alleged and simply rubber-stamped a warrant request. Well, as I see it, the AG has, in a sense, done just that by deferring the decision to prosecute or not, to seek an indictment or not, to the FBI Director. In our system, the investigator–the LEO–does not make that call.
SMH in disgust…..anyone else feel that their time in the service of this once great nation, that for other than the friendships and personal experiences, has been a total waste of time when our government pulls a travesty such as this ?
the fix was in, now will the fix be in come November 8th ?, their have been accusations of voter fraud for Clinton in a few DEM primaries such as California ????????????????hmmmmm
Why did we bother to serve? I guess the oath we all took is now worthless.
We served to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. Only to get our legs kicked out from under us by a gang of self-serving crooks, thieves, liars, and manipulators that have the unmitigated gall to claim they “represent the people”.
We served for each other. No oath needed.
Ugh. Same shit, different day. This is the kind of crap that makes me think a repeat of 1776 wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.
Yo!!
Despicable acts on the part of others in no way diminishes my good acts. I served, and all of my time in service was honorably performed. My very small part in providing security for this nation is what I did, while others provided other small pieces toward that same security. Together we can and should take pride in what we accomplished. That there always were and today are very visible people who wish to destroy our collective security is beside the point.
Focus, friends! We did our part and, as we are able, will continue to honor those oaths we took. Seriously, there was no expiration date on the oaths I took to defend this country and the US Constitution against ALL enemies. I may no longer be legally obligated to continue that quest, but it certainly feels like it still applies.
“My time in uniform is over but my watch never ends.”
(Quote above from the bubbas over at RangerUp: http://www.rangerup.com/mywatch.html)
So the take away was Hillary and her staff.
Are just harmless idiots?
Presidential material fer shure.
I am too pissed off to even frame my feeling on this right now.
I am particularly pissed the intentionally avoided looking at any of the private emails they recovered so they would not have to investigate any evidence of corruption and racketeering.
And I despise that there is a different justice system for the wealthy and connected.
There is no way in hell anyone not wealthy and connected could possibly avoid prosecution for at least some of the stuff she did.
We are now, officially, a country WROL – Without Rule of Law.
Make of that what you will, and where to take it.
The Four Esses, anyone?
Maj. Jason Brezler was forced out of the Marine Corps for sending ONE classified intelligence report over an unsecured server. The report in question was to warn Marines in Afghanistan at the time about the dangerous nature of a regional police chief who was returning to a province Maj. Brezler had previously been deployed to. He only had the report on his computer because he was forced to use his personal laptop on deployment, as the Corps didn’t issue him one. That warning went unheeded, and three Marines lost their lives because of it.
His only intent was to protect fellow Marines (oh, and he self-reported his violation as befitting a Marine officer with intergrity), but he was cashiered anyway. We live in a corrupt oligarchy, not a republic any longer.
I agree.
The widespread election rigging the DNC orchestrated during the primary was the final straw.
But I was clinging to this investigation as my last thread of hope that there was a chance that the corruption would finally start being addressed.
This makes it clear they will never do anything about it and peaceful reform is impossible.
Seems to me that we are likely to see violence in the streets within two decades.
Perhaps as soon as one.
The plutocracy will never let them prosecute one of their own or risk other doing down with them.
Radar, I had to steal that and post it in other places. Thank you. 🙂
This gem from Comey’s statement:
“To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.”
Translation: Since it was Hillary Clinton, we’re giving her a pass Anyone else should be indicted.
Yeah, this ticked me off.
“We are not charging her but we would anyone else.”
Correct Translation: We are concerned solely with criminal wrongdoing, not with whether The Bitch’s violations are to be sanctioned administratively.
Sure that is how he framed it, but I am certain anyone with less connections were to do this the recommendation would both be criminal and administrative.
I think this just got Trump elected. Lots of folks would never vote for Hillary but didn’t want to vote for Trump either. This will piss those people off enough to not stay at home and effectively vote for Hillary.
Imagine how any of us would have been treated for a lot less.
It irks me that the liberal narrative is essentially that this was all politically motivated and she was exonerated.
They even argue it makes her more “pure” because she was so investigated.