Jihadist in Orlando?

ABC News reports that a man went into a night club last night in Orlando, Florida with a rifle and a handgun and took hostages. He killed 20 people and wounded 40 more.
At a press conference on Sunday at 7 a.m., FBI assistant agent in charge of the agency’s Tampa division Ron Hopper was asked if the shooter, who was shot and killed by police, had ties to Jihadist terror groups. “At this time we’re looking at all angles right now.” the official said. “We do have suggestions that that individual may have leanings towards that, that particular ideology. But right now we can’t say definitively so we’re still running everything around”
CNN says that the club, “Pulse” was a “gay nightclub”.
“It’s appears he was organized and well-prepared,” the chief said, adding that the shooter had an assault-type weapon, a handgun and “some type of (other) device on him.”
Orlando authorities said they consider the violence an act of domestic terror. The FBI is involved.
The shooting began around 2 a.m., and an officer responded, Mina said. The officer engaged in a shootout outside the club, after which the gunman ran into the club.
“That turned into a hostage situation,” Mina said. Authorities were getting calls from people inside the club but away from the gunman, the chief said.
More police rushed to the scene and broke down a door with an armored vehicle, helping some 30 clubgoers flee to safety, Mina said. At that point police shot and killed the gunman, he said.
From the New York Times;
The gunman was not from the Orlando area and was organized and well-prepared, the police said.
The gunman was found dead inside the Pulse nightclub, one of the largest gay clubs in Orlando, about 5 a.m. after a shootout with officers who were attempting to rescue dozens of people who were being held hostage, said Chief Mina. He confirmed that the gunman had been killed by the police.
The chief said it was difficult to assess the number of clubgoers who had been killed because many of the bodies had not been removed.
UPDATE: According to CBS News, his name is Omar Mir Seddique Mateen;
Law enforcement sources told CBS News the gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986. CBS News reports Mateen has no apparent criminal history and that authorities are investigating whether he had ties to Islamic terrorism.
Gateway Pundit says that ISIS warned of an attack in Florida three days ago. Lucky guess?
Live from the White House;
According to the President, it’s about gun control, not terrorism. Restrict law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. The man who committed this tragedy was investigated twice by the feds as a terrorist, but the NICS failed us, once again. And it’s legal gun owners who will pay the price. “Is this the kind of country that we want to live in?”
Category: Terror War
Somehow, this has to be the fault of George Bush. President Obama says that Islam is a religion of peace, and there have been no acts of domestic terrorism on his watch, ergo blame George Bush.
If he was a moslem, then this is just another example of the Religion of Peace peacefully being peaceful. It can’t be his fault that the folks in the gay bar intolerantly got in front of his bullets!
I guess we’ll find out soon enough if he was that kind of asshole or some other flavor of asshole. If not, then my money’s on a Jared Loughner-type commie wingnut asshole.
If it ain’t his fault, it’ll be the guns fault.
Aaaand Confirmed! By his highness King Barry.
Maybe he was pissed about not getting an invite to Man-Love Thursday. Either way, hajji or not, what an asshole. May he be buttfucked in hell for eternity alongside Osama.
Prayers and sympathy for those killed and injured.
This will sound rude, but while mass murder is wrong, it’s wrong to worship the victims and it’s wrong to wish sex abuse on some1. It’s gay.
Adele Laurie Blue Adkins in a June 2016 concert used F word among other things when talking about Orlando shooting among songs Mass murder is wrong, but we should not worship the victims. Though this will offend, it wouldn’t surprise me if 1 or more of the murder victims were drug dealers & or gay pedophiles. Murder is wrong but that doesn’t mean worship murder victim. We should only say murder is wrong.
Oh, so — he was an import? And he didn’t like gay people? I’m sure that those he killed are waiting for him.
My sympathies to those who were targeted and killed or injured by this slimeballmayherotinasewer.
My prayers for the injured and for the families of those murdered and injured.
Omar Mateen….
American citizen who voted just like hilli….democrat
Just another scum bag killing innocent people. Rot in hell you turd ball and I hope suffer pain for eternity.
I am watching Meet the Press, who are identifying the shooter as a man named Omar Mateen, which suggests a Middle Eastern background. The primary religion in the region is Islam, which has an extreme intolerance for the LGBT lifestyle.
Maybe we need to make the followers of that religion take classes on acceptance of other lifestyles.
This is going to be a tough one for King 4 Putt: Muzzie shooting gays. Even though his parents were Afghan, maybe he was a Lutheran Redneck?
Yep. Two of the DildoCrats protected special interest groups, fudge packers and quoranderthals, having a go at each other. What’s a Libtard to do?
Seriously, though, condolences to the friends and families of those killed and injured in this domestic terrorist attack.
Well, it can’t have been the result of piss-poor screening by immigration authorities, or (assuming he purchased his weapons legally) the failure of the FBI to get off its fat ass and use NICS properly to prevent an ineligible buyer from getting his hands on something from a dealer who doesn’t know said buyer is ineligible–or in other words, do exactly what NICS is supposed to be used for.
Obviously they’ll blame legal gun owners. Remember, judging the whole group based on one asshole who may not even have been a member of said category is totally okay when liberals do it to us!
Perhaps three special interest groups: most of the people around the club appear to be Afro-Hispanics and a report says it was “Latino Night” at the club.
And, Hot Air has a pix of his voter registration. He’s a Republican. Nahhhh, just kidding, he registered as a Dim.
Which only fox news will mention, ever.
Watch now as the press lackeys talk about every aspect of this story except the Islamist part.
Truth is HA-A-RD, 68W58
What you said!
Orlando has had quite an eventful few days w/ singer Christina Grimmie being shot dead in cold blood, and now this.
2AM? Omar was just trying, in his own “peaceful” way, to close down the place. LAST CALL!!
UPDATE: According to CBS News, his name is Omar Mir Seddique Mateen;
Gateway Pundit says that ISIS warned of an attack in Florida three days ago. Lucky guess?
I’ll be glad to stand corrected on this, but I don’t think ISIS said they were targeting Florida, they simply released a list of 8000+ potential American targets they hoped sympathizers would go after.
Florida is 1/16th of the US population; having 1/13th of the targets be there doesn’t sound statistically unlikely. Also, the Palm Beach and Treasure Coast demographics aren’t exactly what you’d find in a gay club in Orlando.
Maybe this guy was inspired by their hit-list, maybe he was inspired by ISIS in general, or maybe he just hated gays – I guess we’ll know more in the coming days. It doesn’t seem like ISIS telegraphed anything, though, in my opinion.
ISIS Did state places that they where going to target and yes it’s a little eerie that central Florida was one. It’s the crazy season and I’ll bet there is more to come
I’ll be glad to stand corrected on this, but I don’t think ISIS said they were targeting Florida, they simply released a list of 8000+ potential American targets they hoped sympathizers would go after.
Florida is 1/16th of the US population; having 1/13th of the targets be there doesn’t sound statistically unlikely. Also, the Palm Beach and Treasure Coast demographics aren’t exactly what you’d find in a gay club in Orlando.
Maybe this guy was inspired by their hit-list, maybe he was inspired by ISIS in general, or maybe he just hated gays – I guess we’ll know more in the coming days. It doesn’t seem like ISIS telegraphed anything, though, in my opinion.
(Sorry if you see this multiple times; I’m having trouble posting again.)
I’ll be glad to stand corrected on this, but I don’t think ISIS said they were targeting Florida, they simply released a list of 8000+ potential American targets they hoped sympathizers would go after.
Florida is 1/16th of the US population; having 1/13th of the targets be there doesn’t sound statistically unlikely. Also, the Palm Beach and Treasure Coast demographics aren’t exactly what you’d find in a gay club in Orlando.
Maybe this guy was inspired by their hit-list, maybe he was inspired by ISIS in general, or maybe he just hated gays – I guess we’ll know more in the coming days. It doesn’t seem like ISIS telegraphed anything, though, in my opinion.
I saw an update on CBS and in the crowd of speakers was a man dressed as a Muslim. If true I think he was there to blunt any questions about his “faith”.
Sorry, I should have said any questions about the shooters “faith”.
Well it’s all about being PC
From Daily Mail:
“Mir Seddique, Mateen’s father told NBC News his son became angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami several months ago.
‘This has nothing to do with religion,’ he said. ‘We are saying we are apologizing for the whole incident. We weren’t aware of any action he is taking. We are in shock like the whole country.'”
I’m thinking it DOES have something to do with religion – at least the shooter’s interpretation of it.
Maybe he was afraid of being found out?
Quite possible, or rage arising from self-loathing.
Or maybe upset at being rejected? Nah, this has all the earmarks of a another terrorist incident, which now that it’s been determined to not be a white, redneck, Republican, Trump-supporting gun nut, will probably disappear from the mainstream media’s memory within days. (And be blamed on Bush by that turkey in the White House.)
‘This has nothing to do with religion,’ he said.
Bullshit. Would any reasonable person have taken such action w/o ‘religion’ as a driving force?
If it wasn’t religion, Mir Seddique, WTF was the backstory? Dumbass. Muslims like you, with their head up their ass, are a driving force for such behavior b/c you always have a reason someone ‘didn’t’ do something.
I’ll hold my breath waiting for the Million Man Muslim March to protest such behavior.
He’s sad because he never had the opportunity to be a Chai Boy in Afghanistan like so many other Afghan men get to be.
I’ll be glad to stand corrected on this, but I don’t think ISIS said they were targeting Florida, they simply released a list of 8000+ potential American targets they hoped sympathizers would go after.
Florida is 1/16th of the US population; having 1/13th of the targets be there doesn’t sound statistically unlikely. Also, the Palm Beach and Treasure Coast demographics aren’t exactly what you’d find in a gay club in Orlando.
Maybe this guy was inspired by their hit-list, maybe he was inspired by ISIS in general, or maybe he just hated gays – I guess we’ll know more in the coming days. It doesn’t seem like ISIS telegraphed anything, though, in my opinion.
(This was in reply to Jonn’s comment; I’m having trouble posting, it seems.)
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Just another Ramadan celebration that got out of hand, I’m sure. The gunfire that was supposed to go vertical somehow went horizontal.
And Washington DC hosted their Gay Pride Festival yesterday. If he attacked the event in DC, President Obama would have to put down his golf club to make a statement.
He probably would have commented on it between the ninth and tenth holes. After all, it was all Bush’s fault.
The mainstream press will overlook his “Muslim” faith and label this a hate crime that could have been prevented.
Condolences to the family and friends of those lost and injured.
Well, my apologies for the mass of identical comments. Guess my posting troubles are over, at least.
That’s embarrassing.
Just look at it as hammering home your opinion! BZ!
The irony is my original comment was flagged as spam, so Jonn fixed it, which posted four largely identical comments.. which is pretty much spam. The Circle of Comment Life, basically.
Stuff happens.
However, when a comment doesn’t post correctly the first time you might want to very carefully check the spelling of your screen name and email address. Typos there can cause issues.
Stuff happens.
However, when a comment doesn’t post correctly the first time you might want to very carefully check the spelling of your screen name and email address. Typos there can cause issues.
What you did there, I see it.
It happens.
Wonder if Obama was on his knees, praying it was a white man from Georgia and an NRA member? On, tats proclaiming white supremacy would also have been a nice touch.
You know damn well this will be about guns, and not the hatred muzzes have for America.
Love and sadness for all involved, except the killer. No one should suffer injury for being gay.
Obama was on his knees doing something else, but that’s another story.
From the White House:
Guns are bad
Muslims are peaceful
Random act of violence
End of story
^^^
Workplace violence.
Barack says its hard work being gay and he would know.
True. And it also won’t be about the hatred muslims have for gays, because that would paint the religion of peace in a bad light.
The thing I don’t get, is that most Muslims I saw in Afghanistan were gayer than fuck.
That explains the Special Forces soldier beating the shit out the cop who wanted to sodomize a boy.
Wanted to sodomize? No, he did. Repeatedly.
Watch the documentary “The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan” It’s a whole degenerate pedo subculture.
Because in the muslim world there are two terms for gays. One for the guy that lays pipe, and one for the guy that takes it in.
Being the dick giver is tolerated and is not considered being gay. Being the guy getting rammed in the ass is what they actually consider being gay and what they persecute.
So raping little boys perfectly ok for a manly muslim dude.
Multiculturalism is sooo wonderful.
“Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer said he had declared a state of emergency for the city and has requested the governor do the same for the state.” (CNN)
Huh? The number is now 50 killed and a “suicide vest” is appearing, meaning that the police either didn’t kill him or that they did before he detonated. My money says that everyone with the craziest comments will be quoted. It never fails in the media frenzy to get the “news” out. BTW, my first notice that the club was attacked was c/o TAH.
Maybe the liberals can turn this into an example of workplace violence. Oh, and it’s Bush’s fault.
His Parents were Afghan so it’s safe to say it’s likely he was a muzzie. I’m sure he was angry at the club for not inviting him to “Man-love Thursday” or for not having some man-love radamadamndamn fest. I wonder how soon Puss-tray-ess and Company will spout off blaming US for that attack?
Reportedly the shooter was a “licensed security officer”, had made previous threats, and had bragged of ties to Islamic terrorist groups on more than one occasion. Those previous threats and claims apparently were ignored by LE.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/florida-nightclub-shooter-had-made-threats-in-past-reports-claim.html
I do have to wonder if he’d have been ignored by LE if he had been either openly Christian or atheist.
CNN already has a story up “Why the US has the most mass shootings.” Guess what’s coming after that kind of lead?
I’ll take, “bullshit factchecking for 1000” alex?
I notice President Gutsy Call hasn’t released a statement yet.
Guess doing that would have interrupted his golf game
He’s waiting for his advisors to come up with a good storyline. Something along the lines of ‘Bush, blah, blah, guns, blah, blah, workplace violence, blah, blah, peaceful religion, blah, blah.’ He couldn’t write a response to this if he had to. He’s not had an original thought since he found his dick (I’m assuming that’s what he found … I’m really not sure) decades ago.
Just heard Sen Nelson from Fla say there might be a connection to ISIS.
Usually when I hear him I tune him out because all I can think of is what a pompous sounding ass.
Alan Grayson is also flapping his cockholster to get some camera time.
Another one that should just STFU.
Grayson is a waste of space. His only contribution to the earth is that he produces carbon dioxide.
Chief, he’s one of those guys I’d love to tell, “Somewhere there is a tree working very hard to produce oxygen. I suggest you go apologize to it.”
Gotta remember that line!
The “State Senator” representing Orlando spoke right after the Governor about it. She pulled out the standard democratic anti-gun talking points.
Bodies aren’t even cold yet, but we must get the anti-gun talking points started!
The sum and substance of this as well as the solution…not many goats in Florida. More goats in Florida will solve this sort of thing. Or since gays are by and large put forward as well groomed fashionistas, steer the kid to the clubs with the more hirsute, bearded and no deodorant smelly flavor of gays.
QUESTION: Has anyone heard anything about the shooter’s weapons? Fifty dead and fifty wounded by one shooter with a semi-auto is quite a shooting feat. If he had a fully auto weapon(s) much more likely. Fully auto could have been provided from offshore.
A) That if there had been armed security, such as moonlighting police,the killer might not have succeeded?
B) That if the killer had used a bomb, rather than guns, this wouldn’t have happened?
C) That the anger associated with the presidential race (i.e., Trump) had nothing whatsoever to do with this?
Am I getting warm, Poetrooper?
Another massacre in a gun-free zone. Obvipusly we need more gun-free zones.
And spell-check. Must mandate spell-check… Obvipusly….
Some people will do anything for a box of raisins…
72 of them!
There is hope, these are KEY things you should know. Gun ownership is on the decline. Mass shootings on the rise. Most happened after 2007. The South is the most violent region of the US. Stricter gun laws cause fewer gun crimes. Gun free zones on the rise. Its hope and change, try to enjoy it people.
Gun sales would be on the decline if you Gun Nutz were not stockpiling a personal armory.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-the-key-things-to-know-about-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-america/
Don’t get saucy with me, Bearnaise!
I don’t consider Florida as the South. I see it more as North (Cuba).
South of Orlando is North Cuba. North of Orlando is just as Southern as Georgia.
I always considered Miami as North Havana/North Port Au Prince.
Not that it matters but thanks for using the term armory correctly
Chicago has more gun violence than Orlando.
Yeah. Chicago may have more gun violence than the whole state of Florida for that matter.
This unfortunate act happens in one weekend in Chicago, regularly. But its different shooters and they’re mostly gang members so its no big deal apparently.
Just heard he was using an AK-47, the Islamic terrorist’s weapon of choice. He could have bought a legal version and modified it to full auto. I just don’t see how one gunman could do that much damage firing semi-auto.
Well, no one has said how many people were stomped to death and how many were shot.
Multiple magazines and a very crowded gun-free zone, PT. Add to that a group scared sh!tless and frozen in place, and yeah – I can see that, even with only a semi-automatic rifle.
“In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.”
Yeah, I suppose, but he must have been firing from a vantage point. Firing from within the packed crowd would have limited targets you would think. Still have to wonder if that AK wasn’t modified.
Just heard he had a handgun as well which might have worked better in the packed crowd initially at least.
In a nightclub packed full of people? I’ve never set foot in an establishment that specifically caters to the “alternate lifestyle,” but I’ve been in a few regular nightclubs. They were packed, wall-to-wall, standing room only, and elbowing your way to the exit 40 feet away was a 10-minute endeavor. In that scenario, spray&pray would produce some real carnage.
Remember the Station Nightclub fire in Massachusetts a few years back? Over 100 dead, either burned or trampled, with the exits literally blocked by bodies. I’ve seen the video from that incident, and it’s pretty fucking horrifying. Now imagine the same scenario with an active shooter. Even if he shot nothing but the ceiling, the resulting stampede for the exits would be deadly.
They need to feed this asshole’s carcass to the pigs.
Remember the Station nightclub fire in RI a while back? 100 dead, over 200 injured, and that was in a matter of a minute or two.
Once panic sets in, all bets are off.
That’s right, it was Rhode Island, not Massachusetts. I stand corrected.
Apparently he was a radical homophobe. Terrorist.
“Homophobe”? Doesn’t sound to me like he was afraid of homosexuals at all, Taylor. In fact it sounds more like a radical Islamic extremist purging the world of those he considers evil enemies.
Samuel Hutchinson was right.
Homophobia? Another example of how progressive/commie/socialist/liberal bastards play with language to affect thinking. Phobias are irrational fears of something. If the fear is rational, it isn’t phobic. And if one regards as repugnant a male who puts his dick in another man’s ass or mouth, that is a legitimate and sane view to hold. I guess that homophobia exists, but I have never read or heard of case of it.
Once again, our resident Intel officer Commissar steps up to the plate and Strikes Out.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/orlando-terror-attack-triggered-pentagon-drone-strike/
Amazing how you liberals are so quick to label America as a racist, homophobic, or (insert chosen label here) society, yet lack the world experience to have visited or learned about other cultures that are far worse on our best days than they are on their best.
But then again, y’all need SOMETHING to bitch about.
Worse on our worst days than them on their best.
Proofreading…I suck at it today.
Radical Islamic Terrorist. The Islamic system of beliefs is also a legal system. For example, homosexuality is a sin and punishable offense according to most of them.
Perhaps if Omar Mir Seddique Mateen had self-identified as a non-binary Muslim, he could have absolved himself from being a homophobe, terrorist, racist and sinner and would have been embraced by the LGBT community.
Sharia is encoded in the Koran and the Hadith. It is a fairly mature system- there are even Sharia lawyers, scholars, and judges. In fact, UBL’s initial declaration of war against the US and the West was based in part on a fatwah, which is a religious legal ruling. That fatwah justified the killing (we would call it murder) of innocents in the name of jihad, so in many ways it led us to this terrorist attack.
That said, many would argue that US law is based on the Christian Bible, so this isn’t as medieval as it seems. In fact, Florida still has anti-sodomy laws on the books, although they are unenforcible.
Whatever anti-sodomy laws Florida “still has on the books” they are irrel can’t since Lawrence v. Texas-a ruling that would have been impossible under any Sharia based legal system. Our moral order is largely based on Christian ethics, but our legal code is broader than that-in Sharia the two are one and the same.
“…they are irrelevant…”
That’s what I meant by ‘Sharia is encoded in the Koran and Hadith’ and ‘they are unenforcible’.
My point is that even here in the US with our modern system we have religious based laws in place, and we still argue as a nation whether or not the Ten Commandments should be up in our courtrooms.
No-those laws are more than “unenforceable”, since Lawrence they are unconstitutional. Whatever the status of those words on the paper they are literally not law in light of the ruling. Any nation, save for those conceived as purposefully atheistic (like the Soviet Union) will have some laws that have some religious basis-but that is hardly the same as based entirely on religious creed.
Any equivocation made between our system and Sharia is wildly misconceived at best.
I’m not equivocating. I am making the point that our legal system has a basis in religious belief, and even some of the more ridiculous laws are still on the books.
Any attempt to ignore that is wildly misconceived or deliberately ignorant.
No-our system, like many others, is influenced in some ways by ideas derived by religious morality, but it has a basis in the thinking of men who were influenced by the enlightenment and not the ranting a of a deranged sixth century murderer and child rapist. Further, it is not a system that bases its legal rulings entirely on religion. Those systems are not the same, they are not even similar. I don’t know how you have gotten this confused
I don’t know how you can be so obtuse.
The Supreme Court decision came in 2003, and twelve states, to include Florida, still have the laws on their books. The Louisiana legislature not only specifically voted to keep the laws, but has arrested people as recently as 2013. (http://nation.time.com/2013/07/31/louisiana-sodomy-sting-how-invalidated-sex-laws-still-lead-to-arrests/). Btw, note the sheriff office used the term ‘unenforcible’
Hell, even Putin uses this to call us hypocrites:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jan/19/vladimir-putin/putin-some-places-united-states-homosexuality-rema/
Again-you made the clearly erroneous case that our system or laws “has a basis in religious belief”. The basis of our legal system is the Constitution and our highest Constitutional court has ruled on the matter in favor of gay rights-something that is impossible under Sharia.
You seem to place great store in that some laws are “on the books”, but North Carolina’s “crimes against nature” statute has been ruled, by a state appellate court, to be “not unconstitutional on its face because it may properly be used to criminalize sexual conduct involving minors, non-consensual or coercive conduct, public conduct, and prostitution.” Now, leaving aside the issue of prostitution (which I personally believe should be legal, but which is illegal everywhere in the U.S. except certain parts of Nevada for all sorts of reasons, very few of which have to do with religion), that seems a perfectly reasonable articulation of what the law should be, without once mentioning any religious test.
Who cares what Putin says anyway-and any citizen who was improperly arrested under any sodomy statute has an airtight case against the arresting party if they are inclined to sue.
Meanwhile Iran hangs gays and IS tosses them off buildings based on religious doctrine-these things are not similar, they are oceans apart.
I have a problem with the word ‘homophobic’ and similar words which suggest I fear an idea, a group or a lifestyle. I have no fear of gays. Do I condone their lifestyle? No, not at all. Do I fear them? No, not at all. This word and similar words were invented by liberals to cast anyone with a differing opinion in a negative light. It sounds good to those too busy to think for themselves, which are the majority of liberals, IMHO.
I agree HMC.
I wonder how many ex-OS2ophobics are out there?
It appears, HMC Ret, that we were writing much the same thing at the same time and posted it at the same moment, give or take a few seconds.
More likely he was afraid of being OUTED, poodle. You are SUCH a FUCKING MORON.
When you get up in the morning, Poodle, do you make a list of things you can say to let people know how uninformed you are?
Commissar, he was a MUSLIM, you IDIOT!
Lars- please remind us again, now, that more murders occur at the hand of right wing zealots. I think we really need to hear it right now.
So hey: How’s that war against Christian cake bakers and wedding photographers going?
It’s going well, Dave. Even as I write this, SWAT is surrounding a bakery in Millington, TN, whose owners refused to make a cake in celebration of Ramadamadingdong. They had previously been warned when they refused to bake a cake for a gay pride group. We can’t tolerate such behavior.
Signed,
obummer
You will be made to approve! You will celebrate diversity (if you know what’s good for you)!
Ramadamadingdong. I’m going to put that in my mental file-o-fax to save for later use. Good one.
I prefer “Radamadamndamn” myself. ?
I’m surprised the Dim talking heads weren’t all over the Sunday morning talk circuit trying to spin this one.
By tomorrow, Hillary will be claiming this was sparked by a YouTube video nobody has ever seen, and AG Lynch will threaten legal action against anyone criticizing Islam.
And yeah, Drump is gonna milk this for all he can get out of it, too, so screw him as well.
Fuck ’em all. I’m gonna vote Mattis as a write-in.
Isn’t the timing on this strange? Trump mouths off about a judge in California, because the judge’s parents were Mexican, but he was born in Indiana. And Trump gets dumped on for it, which is appropriate but he does do the foot-in-mouth thing.
Shortly thereafter, this doofus shoots up a nightclub full of the gay crowd and turns out to have some (amorphous, meaning tenuous) tie to ISIS (maybe).
The timing on this is strange.
The judge is a member of La Raza so I think it’s fair to say that no matter where he was born his heart belongs to The Race.
He’s not just a “member” of La Raza, he contributed 50 grand to them that I know of and I would imagine that a lot of his rulings have a tendency to favor the same goals that La Raza supports.
I can see what Trump was saying, he just screwed it up with his delivery.
I doubt he will make that mistake again.
They already did. As soon as the Governor finished his comments, the state senator for Orlando piped in with the “guns are bad mmkay?” talking points.
Religion of peace?
Wolf Blitzer just mumbled that tha attacker had an “automatic” rifle.
Also the FBI knew of him
And ignored his threats/statements.
Like I said, reactive versus proactive.
The only thing automatic Wolf knows anything about is his auto-dick giver.
The only time I ever spent in a Muslim country was on a two-week operation in Turkey back in the 60’s so I know zip about their culture. What has always struck me as cultural schizophrenia in Islamic countries is their proclivity to simultaneously practice homosexuality with young boys quite openly while publicly condemning and executing homosexuals as deviants.
Have any of you who have spent time there ever asked your Muslim allies how this can be an accepted practice?
Don’t forget sheep and goats, for when young boys aren’t available. Sick folks, any way you cut it.
Being the “male” in a gay relationship is not considered gay in the muslim world. Only being the “female” is being gay to them. Therefore raping young boys is perfectly ok to them, but getting a dick in your ass is a death penalty.
And wondering what the other Orlando area attractions are doing today?
Disney parks, for example, have pretty decent screening to get into the parks, but the bottlenecks in those lines can be hellish.
And no doubt TSA security screening will take record times. Whee. Just in time for next biz trip.
But that’s our government for you. Always reactive versus proactive.
Funny thing. Some people go absolutely crazy arguing that socialism and communism are never to be confused and that those who do confuse them are just ignorant assholes. But the same people have no problem with abusing terms such as homophobia. See how that works?
Lefties, similar to Humpty Dumpty, will use a word to mean only what they want it to mean, nothing more and nothing less. Your inability to keep up with evolving proggie phraseology clearly marks you as one of those retrograde types in dire need of re-education.
Yes. Remember one of the fundamental principles of being a leftard/progtard is the Cheshire cat rule of discourse/argument: “When I say a word, it means what I say it means; nothing less and nothing more.” One can always be “correct” and win an argument if one gets to define what every word means. Newspeak is here.
It’s the ‘phobia’ part – they look for that attached to something else, because they can find it in the dictionary online.
In reality, they are just projecting their own feelings and phobias on normal people.
According to the President, it’s about gun control, not terrorism. Restrict law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. The man who committed this tragedy was investigated twice by the feds as a terrorist, but the NICS failed us, once again. And it’s legal gun owners who will pay the price. “Is this the kind of country that we want to live in?”
Chicago’s gun violence this year is quite high, already.
Statistics are at this link: http://heyjackass.com/
And Chicago has the strictest gun control laws anywhere.
And the stats show that it works so well. /sarc
Our military leaders support the antigunners, and we have another terror attack on American soil that the government was unable to stop. So, the pro-gumners have something to fear, as well as the anti-gunners. And the pro-gumners and anti-gunners are being pitted against each other, and hate and fear each other. A perfect climate of fear. The dial is slowly being turned and the pressure increased on us. The temperature is rising.
I don’t believe in coincidence; not this much, not this specific, not this perfect. We are in serious trouble.
Anti-gunners = Pro-terrorists.
CAIR is on it. CAIR is calling for Muslims to donate blood. I prefer that CAIR call for Muslims to stop waging jihad in our country.
NICS failed, which is his fault because he’s the executive branch chief, but that’s why it is the gun’s fault. Because nothing bad is ever his fault.
This is the same thing Germany did in the 20s just before Hitler came to power. The Nazi’s then made more restrictive laws once in power. An excellent book on the subject is “Gun control in the third Reich” by Stephen Halbook.
‘”What is clear is he was a person filled with hatred,”’ Obama said of the alleged shooter.”
That’s not clear to me at all. Many troops harbor no hatred of their enemy. That lack of animus doesn’t translate into failing to do one’s duty, if that duty is to kill the enemy. So, I’m not saying that this terrorist bastard didn’t hate gays. What I am saying is that it isn’t clear to me that he did. He could have just been doing what he saw to be his jihadist duty to kill infidels of the gay variety. The rest of his little talky-talk, oBaMa played to the LGBT crowd, or so I read. I personally can’t stand to look at the bastard so I had to read ABC’s acct of what he said.
BOOM!
Dude was a registered democrat, how could he hate gays? Plus, my comment above about Afghan Muslims gay as all fuck.
Another gun control gun free zone and islamic terror attack success in America under Obama’s belt.
The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet Mohammad. – president Obama
I bet these two share a similar ideology.
What’s next? That ‘Future Belongs to Me’ song from ‘Cabaret’?
Or will it be paraphrasing Princess Leia? The more you tighten your grip, the more we will slip through your fingers.
Here you go, boys and girls: hot off the internet, freshly pressed: ISIS claims the shootup in Orlando as its very own!
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-claim-idUSKCN0YY0VU
Can someone tell that asshole in the White House to shut the fuck up, once and for all???????
In addition, this brief article says the gunman referenced the Tsarnaev brothers (Boston Marathon) during the shooting spree.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-boston-idUSKCN0YY0WK
The right thing for the US government to do is to tell US citizens to arm themselves and be alert to these bad guys, but that would make sense. And this is definitely one time I would want to turn the sound off on a TV and said rude things while the news announcers are running their ridiculous mouths.
Wake up, people! We’re on our own in this. If the FBI and NICS and other alpha-agencies couldn’t nab this guy and stop him, who will?
I prefer to NOT see my country turned into the equivalent of Englewood on the South Side on a Friday night at 2AM, but is that what it takes to make people in charge wake up to the FACT that we are under siege??
Ex-PH2: Rest assured ma’am that the CS Chamber here in Slammintonio and all who occupy it are well armed and prepared to defend our sector.
Correction: not all of the occupants are armed. The dog is “teethed”.
The problem I have with a scenario involving a significant fraction of Americans being armed in this sort of situation is that it’s easy to think it’d be over fast. Easy, but I think wrong.
There’s always considerable confusion in any situation where gunfire suddenly erupts, and in that confusion, I think it likely that a random, armed American might see another person firing into a crowd, and, understandably, fire back – without questioning whether that person is the enemy or a fellow armed citizen.
Multiply that by lots of armed people, many of limited training, and there’s a good chance(*) we have an equally high body count.
The idea that everyone quickly and correctly identifies friend-or-foe in a dark nightclub with disco lights, smoke and flashing LEDs is fantasy, in my opinion. Am I wrong?
Now, to be fair, I mentioned ‘chance’ above, and realistically I’d have to think pretty hard about how the actual probabilities would play out – it might be that, on average, this does reduce innocent deaths (even if some are now attributed to fellow innocents), and in that case is still ultimately a net good.
But to think that a random, armed, probably untrained bystander -fearing for his life or the lives of family and friends, and with a limited understanding of the whole environment- might somehow prevent these sorts of things is, unfortunately, overly optimistic.
I don’t have an answer to this problem, mind you, but I’m pretty sure it isn’t “take all the guns” or “arm everyone”.
I understand what you’re saying, but there is also something to be said for the idea that Americans can and will defend themselves against these monstrous thugs. I’m not in favor of a Wild West mentality, mind you, but we need to foster the idea that we won’t just sit and take this kind of thing without a consequence, and I do not mean a trial by jury, either.
You have two choices to do what you’re suggesting. Lone Wolf, or trained unit. You take the fight to the enemy, because waiting to react is too late.
And everything I just posted is completely and totally illegal for private citizens in the US. It is also mostly illegal even for law enforcement! That is why terrorism works so well; it takes military or paramilitary action to effectively counter it. We won’t see that here just yet.
I know what you’re saying, PN, and I agree that it’s not feasible now, at all.
However, I see no harm in fostering and promoting the idea or concept or whatever that Americans do have the right to defend themselves and others against these kinds of attacks, and should be prepared to do so, if needed. I’m thinking of the United crew that tried to stop the hijackers.
You don’t need weapons to stop terrorism. You need smarts, knowhow, and the ability to MacGyver things if necessary.
Fortune favors the prepared mind. – Louis Pasteur
That I’m in complete agreement with. I think my issue is that I lean Left, so naturally I hear more from the left, and thus I know the ‘no guns for anyone!’ notion that some on the Left push isn’t representative of the Left as a whole,… but I hear little of the Right, so the things I do hear are typically the extreme positions of ‘everyone gets a gun! fuck yeah!’, as opposed to a more balanced view of things.
You’re spot on that we need to foster the idea that we won’t be lambs to a slaughter, agreed.
Exactly. I also believe that if push comes to shove. the ‘left-leaning’ people who won’t cave in will find themselves rather far to the right of the extreme leftnuts.
Deterence is a key piece of this as well. Knowing that half of the people in a room may also be armed kinda puts a damper on a bad guy doing bad things in that room.
Why do we maintain our nuclear arsenal???
I understand what you’re saying, and agree with you on the general principle, but in practice I honestly don’t know what effect it would have. I think most of the assholes who do things like this don’t expect to live, so the threat of violence isn’t really a deterrent. The ones who do expect to live would simply use other methods.
Which again, isn’t to say I disagree with you – I think the mindset of fighting back is an important one that many need to cultivate. I just don’t think it’s clear that a much more armed populace will reduce the body count in situations like this.
Here’s another article: US official says there’s the feebles can’t find any connection between teh gunman and the Islamic State. I shit you not.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-islamic-state-eviden-idUSKCN0YY0Q2
ISIS claims the shooting and the FEEBLE BRAINED IDIOTS who investigate these things can’t find any connection there?
Wow. The world has truly gone mad. It seems that reality is what someone wants it to be, not what it really is.
“No direct link” between the shooter and ISIS.
There was no direct link between the Charleston church shooter and Robert E. Lee but that didn’t stop Barry then…
The reason is that many people are thinking of ISIS as a western organization- you go to a meeting, you go through a ceremony, you get a membership card, you pay dues.
There are elements of ISIS that are like that, but in general they willingly embrace anyone who is willing to do their bidding worldwide.
Exactly. Just because the ISIS supply SGT didn’t issue this guy his skivvies and weapon doesn’t mean there isn’t a direct link…
The terrorist called 911 about 20 minutes after the attack began. 20 minutes? 20? Egad. The FBI interviewed the jihadist twice but found nothing actionable. You can bet those files are being scrutinized at this moment. Let’s hope that they are not being sanitized. Eleven local police officers have been placed on admin leave for shooting at the little murdering Muslim bastard. Let’s hope they were better shooters than that NYPD crew a couple of years ago who shot nine bystanders.
What was the excuse for putting them on admin leave? He was shooting up the place? Were they supposed to just WATCH and then slap his wrists?
PH2: I think it’s SOP to place an officer who fired a weapon on administrative leave until the investigation can be completed. I do believe in this case, the investigation could have been completed in a matter of minutes. Like others, I’m hoping there was no collateral damage, but with that many shooters …
Granted, they do have procedures to follow, but this shooter got into a gunfight with the police. I think there may be a video of it online. 50 people are dead, and 53 more are wounded, some of whom may not survive.
I don’t blame the police for any of this.
Ditto
That’s SOP. They are paid and it does not suggest wrongdoing. They are given the option (sometimes not an option but mandated) to speak with the dept’s shrink as well.
I’m going to try to move away from the siege mentality that I could head toward.
But if ISIS warned some time ago that they have planned many of these events, then someone explain the mental aberration now in existence in WDC that says it isn’t going to happen. How many more of these do we have to expect before they are stopped?
Hey, Barry! This is Radical Islamic Terrorism…period.
Frankly, I don’t give a damn what anyone does in the privacy of their bedroom….really, I don’t give a shit. Unfortunately, many in the gay community are too much in everyone’s face with their gayness! That may now change.
Lock and load – carry your weapon wherever you go because it ain’t stopping with gays. IMHO, this is the start of many horrific things to come.
But, we knew that didn’t we?
Yep. Anyone with 3 or more working brain cells figured that out long ago. If they hadn’t figured it out by the Paris attacks, that made things perfectly clear.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4937591679001/atf-orlando-suspect-purchased-2-firearms-within-past-week/?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips
Legally purchased firearms. How’s that background check working out?
The terrorists will do the govs work for them…by forcing a gun ban and confiscation, aided and abetted by frightened citizens and conniving politicians. Once only the government and criminals have guns, then it is simply a matter of doing here what they’ve done everywhere else: kill the men, rape and subjugate the women, and turn this nation into a third world desert like everywhere else they infest.
The LGBT rights activists are spinning this into an attack on them by a hater.
No – it was an attack on Americans by a person swearing allegiance to a terror group sworn to kill Americans.
It ain’t all about you this time. This guy happened to find a barrel full of fish…
On a more positive note:
CAIR has trotted out the usual half dozen or so to tell us they feel our pain and they condemn the slaughter.
Wow, that’s a relief. Without the obligatory ‘we feel your pain’ speech from CAIR, I would have really been concerned.
Yes, it’s dripping with sarcasm.
Won’t be long until they WILL be feeling our pain….
One analyst on tonight’s news said that ISIS has released a wave, a pattern unfolding which started last fall in Turkey, then the Russian airliner, then Paris, followed by Belgium and San Bernardino and now Florida. He also said it is going to continue and we can’t afford to be lax about it. May not have been exactly what the reporters wanted to hear, but he was quite blunt.
While two of the political candidates tweeted condolences, the other one said ‘Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?’
10:45 AM – 12 Jun 2016
I’m not so sure this incident had to do with the LGBT community as much as it did with finding a popular crowded night spot and taking advantage of the fact that it was crowded, and this is apparently Pride Fest weekend. As nbcguy54actual said earlier, it’s shooting fish in a barrel.
“I’m not so sure this incident had to do with the LGBT community as much as it did with finding a popular crowded night spot and taking advantage of the fact that it was crowded…”
I’m with you. ISIS might have picked a gay club for a variety of reasons…homophobia not prominent among them.
This is asymmetric targeting. We call it CARVER: Criticality, Accessibility, Recuperability, Vulnerability, Effect and Recognizability. To the average self radicalized jihadi, Accessibility and Vulnerability are key elements; but recognizability is always paramount. To this guy, Recognizability in the form of a gay hangout clearly seems to have been important. To the Boston guys, they knew that the marathon was an icon. Was this guy a member of ISIS? Sure, in the sense that every Muslim in the world is a member of the Ulema, and every Christian is a member of the catholic (little C, meaning universal) church. He may or may not have swapped emails with ISIS, but they sure as hell will claim credit for what he did. Was he ‘homophobic’ (meaning, did he have some sort of deep emotional hatred of gays)? Sure seems like it. He may have had all sorts of reasons to hate these people- he may have been deeply religious and offended when he saw openly gay men kissing, my guess is that he was suppressing a lot of ‘feelings’ that he couldn’t reconcile with his religion and/or his family. It is interesting to me that he seemed to be extremely familiar with the target (one witness says that he saw the shooter drinking at the bar). I think he was either gay or had a homosexual experience, and this was his way of reconciling that with his world view. It could simply be what some call the ‘Islamification of Radicalism, as opposed to the radicalization of Islam’. The concept is that you have an Angry Young Man- pissed at the world for ‘Reasons’ that he can’t even really articulate to himself, much less the rest of the world. He wants to set the world on fire, and along comes an imam who seems to justify his need to do violence in the koran, etc. He targets something that pisses him off for his personal reasons, and carries off an attack that no one would have predicted because it seems so random, but if you knew the guy it would have been obvious.… Read more »
Thanks for the refresh, my terrorism sprinklings are rusty.
Although, as I recall ISIS doesn’t usually take credit for the attacks they don’t do? I could be wrong though. Some do, some don’t.
What so many realize when they worry about the new mosque in their county is that there are cells with guys like this who are quiet and don’t bother anyone else at all.
It’ll be interesting to hear the whole scoop on him after the next few days of scuttlebutt are done with.
My guess as to why ISIS would take credit for an attack they didn’t do – and this is only a guess based on sparse information – is that ISIS has been taking a beating in the jihadi “press” lately and is willing to latch onto something this big to boost their flagging image.