Mike Webb for Congress
There’s this guy in Virginia’s 8th Congressional District who is running for that seat by the name of Michael Webb. He was running as a Republican, but he was defeated in the primary, so he’s running as an Independent now. He came to our attention a few months ago because he was touting his career in the military. He claims that he was an Airborne Ranger and a major in the Army Reserves;
Well, the truth is a matter of semantics – he was indeed an Army Reserves officer and he was in the 2nd Battalion, 75th Rangers. I’ve emailed with him a couple of times and he’s not exactly easy to talk to. He’s a brilliant man, very good command of the English language, but, like many of the people we talk to here, he’s a bit wordy – he says a lot of words, but not many of those words answer any questions.
His time at the 2/75th Rangers was spent as the battalion legal clerk – a Specialist (E-4). He wants you to think that he was an infantryman while he was there, but he really wasn’t;
He trained as an infantryman, but he served as a legal clerk while he was on active duty. Mike explains to a prospective constituent;
Now, when I talked to the Army Recruiter, today, I asked him why they changed the entry course for service in the Regiment from RIP to RASP, and he told me, “because too many people died.” Again, I am thinking that is really valorous to say that I survived. When I got to the Ranger Regiment and served for two years during a time of relative piece, we experienced ten casualties of which I am aware in the Regiment, including two battalion commanders, one of my own company commanders and his radio technician because we all trained realistically for wars we were all expected to fight when called. Again, I am thinking that that is a little more than turning on your XBox to play Call of Duty.
And, at that elite unit, I was ordered to forgo Ranger School to attend Officer Candidate School after being identified as one of the top five Rangers in a company of more than 140 Rangers.
When you have done half of that, you might be able to brag, too, and not steal my valor.
You see what I mean about Mike’s communication abilities. I think he’s saying that because he completed two weeks of the Ranger Indoctrination Program, he’s a Airborne Ranger. I’m not sure how changing the name of RIP to RASP saved lives, but there you go.
He accused me of calling a “tab check”, but he has no tab to check. He never went to Ranger School – you know, why waste training dollars on a legal clerk? Still, being a legal clerk in the Ranger Battalions is a tougher job than being a legal clerk anywhere else, but, I guess it’s up to you if you think being a legal clerk in a Ranger Battalion allows you to call yourself a Airborne Ranger. I was an infantryman in a Ranger Battalion, but you won’t find me calling myself an Airborne Ranger – of course, Mike told me that I should.
He didn’t deploy with the Rangers, he also didn’t deploy during the war against terror with the Army Reserves as an Military Intelligence officer;
He campaigns in Virginia in a uniform;
I think he can almost get away with it because he doesn’t have any patches on the uniform, but, to me, he looks like he’s a homeless bum who shops at the surplus store. He shows a lot of bad judgement.
Speaking of which, he put a screenshot of his computer screen on the internet yesterday – he forgot to close the PRON tabs before doing so;
That’s not going to help his campaign.
I’m not calling this a stolen valor case, because, like I said, it’s about language. I know what his intentions are, but I’m not the Thought Police.
Oh, yeah, this isn’t an endorsement of his run for the Congressional seat.
Category: Veterans in politics
Oh, yeah… this guy.
I’m actually writing up the PR0N story right now.
BTW – note the signature on the last DD214 and compare it to the others. Anything seem off?
Why not ask the original source, Nikki? Oh, sorry. I thought you were a real journalist.
Oh, for cryin’ out loud! Here we go again. Another one of these guys running for office in Virginia?
By my count, this is the third one of these assclowns to take the stage recently in The Old Dominion. Here are the other two:
Gary McCollum: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=61850
James Nieder: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=65509&cpage=1
This may not be a case of Stolen Valor, but this guy is definitely tap dancing right up to the edge of the Stolen Valor precipice.
Please make it stop…
Don’t forget that this is in NORTHERN Virginia, a DC suburb and extension, not the actual state of Virginia itself, where his candidacy would last for some seconds and implode.
By my count, you may be back to just one. When officers depart drilling status in the “Reserves” they transfer into the Inactive Ready Reserve (IRR) when, they have the opportunity to resign their commission. In the IRR, an officer can continue to accrue “points” for retirement up to a certain limit, but is only credited with a “good year” after earning at least 50 points. Do you research this or just assume everything you misread on the Internet has to be true. If so, stay away from the Baltimore Sun, because “Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.” Lol
“He’s a brilliant man, very good command of the English language….” Then I guess my command of the language must suck, because I read his email twice and cannot comprehend it.
You have to read it one ‘peace’ at a time.
as in “served for two years during a time of relative piece…” ?
PRON tabs published! Awesome!!!
Durnit, SJ, you just had to jump in line ahead of me, dintcha?
‘… during a time of relative piece…’
You Big Ol’ Meanie!
He does have a case of verbal diarrhea, though. Anyone else see that?
You should have seen the rambling 2000+ word screed last night, which has since been deleted, in which he implied that my husband may have been responsible for sending him some kind of pr0n virus!
LOL!
A mere 2,000++ words? He must have been tired!!
I do wish everyone would remember to get screen shots!!! I love screen shots!
Sorry Ma’mn. {PH2}
Tired? Probably. Especially typing with just one hand! 😉
Nicki, could you post a spew alert, for pity’s sake!!!!!
LMAO! Sorry! Forgot.
Depends. Could have been “speech to text” – especially if there were instances of “Oh, yeah”; “Oh, baby”; or “Ahhh” inserted at random intervals in the screed.
Here are some excerpts from additional posts courtesy of gawker.com
http://gawker.com/close-your-porn-tabs-before-posting-screenshots-to-your-1776955238
It is an “inside joke,” you would know if you have heard me talk for the past 30 years. It began when Congresswoman Pat Schroeder addressed an audience in the Northen Auditorium of the University Library at Washington and Lee University. She noted that the military had not had a real war since Vietnam and did not count Grenada. Just a “piece.”
Thanks for coming out. I assure you that you will be much happier.
Does he know the famous legal clerk “Ranger” Broady?
I think this guy is smarter in his own mind than his mind actually is. They probably made him a legal clerk because it is hard to get someone killed as a legal clerk.
This kept him away from guns, ammo, explosives, helicopters, and parachutes. All things that crazy people tend to misuse.
Crazy people also like to run for office. IE Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi.
I think there are quite a few crazy people that would take offense at being lumped in with them. 🙂
Also, such slights are not good for their “piece” of mind. ( <- not a typo )
Now, explain how I got my 11B SMOS during Operation Desert Shield/Storm.
Yeah, Mike, you enlisted in 1992, a year after Desert Storm, so you can stop the martyr BS.
I enlisted 10 October 1990. I volunteered for AD 29 January 1992.
Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!!
I guess you can’t read the DD 214: January 3, 1991 to April 3, 1991, duty station Fort Benning for Infantry OSUT. Is this a stupidity farm?
you calling anyone stupid speaks from a position of hypocrisy, Mr. Screenshot
I think we understand quite well, “Mikey”.
In plain language: you rode out the war in CONUS in the reserve components and waited until damn near a year after the shooting stopped to request an active duty assignment. How . . . convenient.
Please don’t have children. We don’t need more stupid people burdening the economy. In August 1990, when tanks rolled into Kuwait, I spent my bank job lunch break in the Army recruiter’s office with SSG Cruz, an Airborne CIB recruiter and said that is what I want to do. He looked at me and laughed. Then he scheduled me for an ASVAB, that I maxed. Off the chart. He asked me to reconsider and then offered the compromise choice of infantry in the Reserves for a training unit scheduled to mobilize. That was the best deal he would give me; so I took it.
If you were ever in the military, which is not evident even in Lilyea’s comments, in the military you hurry up and wait. So, I did not take an enlistment oath at MEPS until October 10, 1990, my Basic Entry Service Date (BASD). I was not scheduled to report to training at Fort Benning, GA until January 3, 1991, meaning that I was in transit on my 25th birthday. And, my thanks for service is to get spit in the face. This is not the PR recruiting command is seeking.
Mikey, quit p!ssing on our collective legs and claiming it’s raining.
You need to work on being a bit more observant – obviously, you missed the “About Us” tab on the site. Or, if you read it, you have p!ss-poor reading comprehension. The phrase “served in the Army (regular or reserve) under every POTUS from Carter to Obama” is relatively clear – and easy for someone of average intellect to understand.
Now, about your claims. You clearly wrote above, “I volunteered for AD 29 January 1992.” (That is a direct quote.) That is over a year after you enlisted in the US Army Reserve and nearly 10 months after you completed basic training (and were released from active duty). It’s also 11 months after the shooting had stopped.
If you were serious about serving in support of the Gulf War, you’d have enlisted RA vice USAR. Or if USAR enlistment was the “best deal” your local recruiter could find, you’d have gone to another recruiting office. And you’d have done that in August 1990. You were certainly old enough at the time (you were 24).
Now begone, mendacious tool.
Why do people get on the Internet to scream about themselves: I am stupid? You may not be a danger to others but certainly to self.
So, listen up, stupid. Everyone from 11 bang bang to combat cook does the “hooah” stuff in the Rangers. Our Chaplain’s assistant completed SERE. Unlike even the legal specialist at the 82nd Airborne, the one in the Rangers does not report to a desk on Main Post at JAG. He remains behind the restricted fenced in area and is more likely to enter the SCIF than anyone else outside the intelligence field. But, while there, like every other Ranger, I maneuvered through field problems at JOTC and other combat ranges, tossed live grenades in the tire house, fired carbines, MP5s and other neat weapons, exploded bangolier torpedoes jumped from airborne platforms over 20 times in 2 years including a Chinook backblast into American Lake, fast rope, mountaineering, etc. You know: “all the things crazy people tend to misuse.” Now, tell me about your misuse, stupid.
Yes, Mikey, why DO you get on the internet to let people know you are STOOPID?
Talk about stupid? Whose the one running around in an Army uniform trying to get “military sympathy” votes because you’ve got no other political skin to run on?
Dude – quit acting and looking like some homeless prick on the corner…
Every word you type makes you look more like an idiot. I would encourage you to cease.
Layla Rivera? Iveone Sexy Amateur? He could be a straight dude. Maybe those other sites are just elements of a business investment empire. Diversity and all that sort’a thing.
Jonn, I don’t know how old that first pic is but he is wearing the 98th Division (TNG) patch. Used to be headquartered out of Rochester NY before they moved down to Benning 5 or 6 years ago as I recall. When I was in that Division in the 90’s we were a 12B OSUT Drill Sergeant unit that used to either go to Drum or Leonard Wood for our 2 week AT. Smelling something fishy – all the officers were Engineers at the time, don’t know what they changed when they went to Benning. Maybe he was assigned to the 2 shop wherever he was and decided that OJT counts for a 35 series branch self-award???
Also, met some 98th NCOs in Mosul in 2004-2005 who were assigned as trainers for Iraqi Army and ICDC, but very few were assigned and all of the ones I talked to were E6-E8, so his odds of deploying with them are mighty slim. Just grasping at straws…
FYI, I served in the 98th from 2001 to 2007, while the HQ was still in Rochester, and the officer slots were not EN in a training unit, but “branch immaterial.” And, for four years, as a company commander, I went to Fort Lost in the Woods, and with a collection of dropped in reservist drills alongside active duty drills, every year beat the post record for first time go’s on BRM.
Those drills — were those Black & Decker or Craftsman?
I prefer Black & Decker myself.
Nothing says LEGIT like a selfie in the mirror!
At least it isn’t a “Carlos Danger” selfie…
Yet.
In all honesty, I can wish him well in life. Since he actually is a veteran, I would offer him this advice: Lying generally does not serve any of us well, at least in the long term. Exaggerating is a form of lying. Couching a statement to steer folks into drawing incorrect conclusions is as well.
Cut it out, Mr. Webb! Your life will suddenly become much easier.
“He told me the truth even when I didn’t want to hear it.” That was a bullet from my OER as a lieutenant. Just because you don’t believe what I say does not make it untrue. When you learn that your life will get easier, I assure you.
If you think your antics are going to even remotely fool any of us that says you don’t know me at all, Mike Webb.
He spammed the Facebook comments last night like nobody’s business. I guess he’s running on the Troll Party Ticket.
Missed this little nugget of what was apparently intended to appear to be sage wisdom. Just another failure for whoever this is posting as Webb..
Mike Webb: the Fappening.
https://thelibertyzone.com/2016/05/17/mike-webb-the-fappening/
THAT is a scream!
All the Rangers I know, would be saying….”hell yeah, I watch porn and what?”
Excellent read Nicki! Thank you and I laughed my ass off.
I cried for my country and my military.
Spot on, great read!
Thanks, Nicki. Needed a laugh today; that delivered. (smile)
Thanks for the warning, Nicki!!!!
Thought you guys might enjoy that! Dude is complete fucking crazy! BTW – listen to him ramble on in this TV interview.
http://archive.9news.com/video/4897282418001/1/Congressional-candidate-shares-porn-sites-on-Facebook
Here I was mistaken that the top Soldiers in regiment were sent to Ranger School to get tabbed so they can stay in Regiment…and be Rangers. So glad he cleared that up for me.
The chief motivation to get the Tab for lower enlisted is promotion and “escape.” An E1 or anyone below E4 becomes an E4 upon Ranger School completion and return to the Ranger unit. After that he is placed at the top of the OML to attend the next PLDC to get promoted to E5. In the period between return to the unit to promotion to sergeant, the newly tabbed Rangers join the E4 Mafia, making like miserable for anyone without a tab 24/7. We don’t lock the barracks room doors in battalion and there are no doors on the toilet stalls, so, if you like to spank your meat, everyone knows.
You get no promotions or advancements in the Regiment beyond E4 without a Tab. Officers cannot serve in the Regiment without a Tab. They sent me to OCS. A two year old could understand what that means.
Mike Webb: The Fapping “Ranger”!
“Airborne Infantry” is something to be proud of but it wasn’t enough for him. He wrongfully claims to be an Airborne Ranger when campaigning, that is definitely a case of Stolen Valor.
I don’t agree. He passed RIP and was assigned to a Ranger Battalion. He was a Ranger.
Not all Rangers are Ranger qualified. At least during my time in the Army it was normal for privates to be assigned to the battalion, complete Airborne and then RIP and then be assigned to a line company. Once they showed that had the skills to pass they were slotted for the school. I believe they had to be at least a PFC and it may have been that they needed to be a SP/4 (SPC) before being assigned to Ranger school.
If he’s implying that he completed Ranger school, then yes, he’s lying, but calling himself a Ranger IMO is accurate because he was, in fact, assigned to a Ranger battalion and personnel assigned to Ranger battalions are referred to, both within the unit and outside of it, as “Rangers.”
Thanks for pitching in. This whole thing started because I said I never went to Ranger School, and, for some reason, known only to God, during 20 years when everyone saw conflict, even if they did not want it, I did not. All of my units deployed shortly after I left, even the Rangers.
Cocksucker.
So, tough guy, why don’tt you sock this?
Request some assistance from my Army brethren here.
Does the Army have any capability to step in and cause this guy to stop campaigning in that Army uniform?
One reason that I’m asking is that the Army uniform could be misunderstood by uninformed individuals within the electorate as implying Army support for whatever this guy is saying or doing. Or that he is actually representing the Army when he’s out and about on the campaign trail.
The other reason that I’m asking is that I’m fairly certain that the Marine Corps would quickly find a way to put a stop to anyone wearing a USMC uniform who was engaged in similar political activities.
Thoughts?
I am almost positive that no military personnel active or not, can wear a uniform while campaigning for a political office.
Nicki posted some regulations here:
https://thelibertyzone.com/2016/05/17/mike-webb-the-fappening/
Technically I guess he can argue that without any rank or patches, it’s just thrift store stuff. God knows he is wearing it like that, shit hanging out of cargo pockets etc.
Even more than the wieniewanker tabs, I like the temp agency tab – nothing says you are confident about your abilities like looking for a temp job. Maybe he thinks he will only work for a living till he is elected and can stop working forever.
Calling bullshit on his “ordered to OCS” story, too – unless things have changed in the last while, that was strictly a volunteer assignment and you had to apply, get boarded, etc. to be selected. Any whiff of wanting to be anywhere else and you were out. No one wants an uncommitted leader.
Definitely true on the OCS part.
Now if he’s still a reserve officer, can they recall him to discipline him for wearing the uniform? I understand it doesn’t have patches, but any idiot can see what he’s trying to do.
I was told by someone who was there that he was, in fact, wearing rank. That of a Major. The last DD214 we’ve seen on this jackass had him as an O-3.
Hey, Nicki. You are a reporter or a romantic fiction writer. I can’t tell. If you reported facts about the military, you would know that a DD 214 is issued for Active Duty Service over 90 days. I BELIEVE I retired from the Reserves as a major. Hence, no 214. DUH.
So, what is the name of your “hi” school paper, again?
I have seen nada military beggars on the off-ramps who look sharper than this guy. His simulated smooth-talk makes him look like a downtown bus station pimp.
layla rivera & ivonne are probably his community outreach advisers.
Do they outlaw civilian purchase of fatigues? That is the case here. Looks like and is have great meaning in the law.
He isn’t technically wearing a uniform, as Jonn alluded. he is smart enough not to wear the U.S. Army tape or any unit patches. I’m guessing that there also isn’t any rank on his blouse. So, he’s wearing camouflage pants and shirt. If you look at the ads for USAA and some of the big government contracting companies, they do the same thing with their models.
We all know what he is trying to imply with wearing that get-up, but there isn’t anything illegal about what he’s doing.
There was rank.
Even that alone may not be enough, Nicki. Many police departments use the same insignia.
All I know is that he was wearing ACU Major rank in at least one appearance.
Also, a bunch of veterans confronted him at the convention and told him he was an offensive fucking douche. That didn’t stop him.
“Draft Major Mike”…
So is he or isn’t he???
https://m.facebook.com/MikeWebbGOPVA8th/
As a practical matter, unless he’s still USAR/ARNG or retired, there’s probably nothing DoD can do to prevent him from wearing his ACU parts so long as he omits the unit patches, badges, rank, and US Army tape.
If he’s USAR/ARNG, either the UCMJ or SCMJ technically apply. Under those conditions, they could threaten to order him back to active duty to face disciplinary action (in the case of ARNG, I’m guessing they could probably get his state AG to do that). Same would be true if he’s a USAR/ARNG retiree.
However, if he’s been discharged, different story. He’s no longer subject to DoD’s authority in that case. Unless he runs afoul of the portions of the US Code that prohibit wearing the military uniform/distinctive uniform items (18 USC 702), I’m guessing there’s not a damn thing that DoD can do but ask him to stop, plus publicly state that he’s doing it without their blessing. And omitting the rank/badges/tabs/unit patches may well give him an “out” if someone were to try and raise the uniform/distinctive uniform item issue.
He is retired. Therefore should have to follow the portion of 670-1 that pertains to retirees. No?
Retired, yes. Just like Lilyea. And, under DOD regulation, in a political message, a soldier in uniform cannot appear as a primary graphic. I have told John Stolen Valor Lilyea this several times, but he has ignored this very real, not imagined, regulation. Why don’t you report him?
This is not a political advertisement. This is a discussion thread in a military blog. If your analytical powers tell you that the two are the same, I have a pretty good idea of why you dropped out of law school.
It is not a uniform. It is fatigues purchased at a military gear store.
So why wear fatigues? Don’t you have any other clothing options? If not, I hear that you can pick up gently used business suits for $5 and a tie to go with it for a buck at your local Goidwill store. Just tell them that Psaul sent you for the poser discount.
I was leg infantry for 25 years. Imho…. those who served in the “bats” are Rangers…. I have a guy who I served with who does occasionall commentary for fox news as a “former army ranger”. He was tabbed but never served in the battalions..
I c this as more of an affront than a non tabbed guy who served in the 75th saying he was a Ranger… then again, I’m not tabbed so I can not possibly know how those guys feel about it.
Thx for listening.
RG: I’m in agreement with you. 😉 IMO someone who earned a Ranger tab but has never served in any Ranger unit calling himself a “Ranger” is, at the very least, stretching the truth (and full disclosure, I’m not tabbed either.)
In fact, I’d say it’s like a “5 jump chump” (i.e. someone who goes to jump school but then is never assigned to an airborne unit)calling himself a “paratrooper.” Yeah, they may technically qualify as “airborne” but they’re not a “paratrooper” unless they’re assigned to an airborne unit.
Jonn, it’s just my opinion but if you were an infantryman assigned to a Ranger battalion, you were a Ranger, period, regardless of qualification.
I was Signal assigned to an Infantry battalion so I can say I was Infantry?
No but if you were signal assigned to a Ranger battalion and had passed RIP/ROP or whatever they call it now, you could legitimately call yourself a Ranger.
That’s the whole reason they do RIP/ROP. They inculcate the Ranger mentality into everything they do. Even SF doesn’t do that.
“could legitimately” is the operative bit. I couldn’t look in the mirror if I had done that. BTW: not busting on you…you’re just splaining what happens and appreciate that.
Absolutely and FWIW I agree with you. What Webb is doing falls into the category of “technically accurate but intentionally misleading.”
Which makes me wonder if this guy is a lawyer.
He is not a lawyer. He dropped out of law school after a year and spent the last decade plus as a legal assistant at about 15 different places.
Then contact the 75th Ranger Regiment Association and tell them what you THINK because they have a different rule.
Attention-whoring butt nugget of a babbling Swamp Donkey. What a DINGLEBERRY! How many jumps does he claim to have done while he was in the Regiment?
I completed over 20 in 2 years in the Regiment, if you need to know.
Yeah, maybe he can clerk for a certain soon-to-be-disbarred lawyer and help him write up 166 page “briefs”.
Hmmmm…a chocolate snow man. Imagine that, in politics of all places.
And what does that mean, Jughead?
If you can’t figure that out on your own, Mikey, it means that you’re not exactly the brightest bulb on the tree.
Go back to reading the Archie comic books asshole!
Proud, your mastery of invective is inspiring! I still think you oughta give lessons. I’d sign up.
Seems to me that the regs specifically say that one does not wear the uniform at political rallies, or other gatherings that might give a wrong impression of the military or the branch. Like the KKK, for instance. Far fetched, but that’s the idea.
Sorta the equivalent of wearing the uniform to get a discount.
Like stolen valor, the Feds won’t bother to stop stuff like this, ’cause it doesn’t get them face time on TV or the media. Big drug bust, different story.
The reg says the following:
Retirees. Paragraph 30-3 of the above listed regulation gives full details. Army retirees may wear the Army uniform only for the following circumstances:
(1) Personnel performing instructor duties at an educational institution conducting courses of instruction approved by the Armed Forces (such as JROTC).
(2) While attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony.
(3) Attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part.
For (2) and (3), above, only service and dress uniforms may be worn; the BDU and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn.
Wear of the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above is prohibited.
I’d be willing to bet the guy is neither a retiree nor currently serving, Nicki.
He claims he’s a retired Major. The DD214 I’ve seen says otherwise. The last one Jonn posted has him as an O-3, but look at the signatures, Hondo, and compare that sig to the previous two. See anything glaring?
I’d be willing to bet he’s NOT retired, but he claims he is.
Well, we could ask someone with access to check AKO. My understanding is that he’d be listed there as a retiree – though it’s possible that has changed since AKO email was terminated.
Yeah, I remember that used to be a thing. I have no idea if that’s the case any longer, though. That would be a pretty good indication, right?
Army White Pages list a retired Major named Michael David Webb. No Major Michael David Webb in AKO, however. So…who knows?
Something is super sketchy about this guy – other than the obvious loonery, of course!
It’s possible that the AKO personnel listing was linked to or derived from the AKO email directory. If so, since AKO email went away that means it’s no longer a reliable way of determining whether or not someone is retired Army.
To clear up your uncertainty, I am the retired Army major, and the AKO email for retirees was discontinued a few years back.
No, Webb, it was discontinued last year – last March or April, to be precise.
So, you’re a retired USAR Major, eh? Then let’s see a set of PII-redacted orders placing you on the USAR Reserve Retired list. All that takes is a photocopier, a magic marker, a scanner, and access to email.
I’ll check AKO tomorrow if needed my internet is still down (aka WIFI and I have GKO also for guard and reserves,, have someone e-mail me if needed
AKO stopped maintaining retired accounts last year. If the retiree is a military contractor, they will have an AKO account listing them as retired. Otherwise, they will be out of the system.
Whoa Nellie! The signatures–his and Robinson’s–are not even close in two of docs signed by both.
Yep. That’s why I have to wonder about that DD214.
The two Robinson signatures are interesting, 2/17 Air Cav (a different individual entirely signed the 3rd DD214). However, not being a handwriting expert I can’t really say if they’re the same individual’s signature or not.
However, Webb’s “signatures” on those 3 documents are . . . very interesting indeed.
The two “Webb signatures” on his first 2 DD214s above seem quite similar. However, regarding the “Webb signature” on the last DD214, well:
One of these things is not like the others . . . .
Wonder “whassup wit dat”?
That was exactly my point. The last one looks like a woman signed it. It certainly bears ZERO resemblance to his signature.
Some legal genius with a 27D MOS probably thought, “Hey, if I make the signatures really dissimilar, I can defend by saying, ‘Do I look that stupid that I would forge signatures so badly?'” It’s a variation on the common criminal’s answer to the question, “Why would I do that?” It’s a dead giveaway every time.
Hey, Honey. Coo Coo Cachoo, Mr. Robinson. If you want to know why his signature changed go to Fort Benning and ask him. You might stop by Lt Calley’s shop while near Columbus. And, you are going to tell me that over a course of years your signature never changed? Oh yeah. That’s right. You are a troll. Why would you be thinking about how history remembered your signature? According to Princess Sophia the First, the trolls live underground in caves and come out at night to bask in the glow of the stars.
“Starlight. Star Bright. First star I see, tonight. I wish I may. I wish I might. Get the wish, I wish, tonight.”
You never have and never will know me, Mike Webb.
But I know you, Jack!
Maybe he’s retired like people in Amway say they’re retired.
You know, meaning they foolishly left a secure job to do something dumb.
On DD 214s dated 1991, 1994, 1997, and 2006, which are only issued for completion of service on Active Duty in excess of 90 days, BTW, why would any signatures on those documents issued at different places be the same? You don’t have to be brilliant to figure this out, and y’all are giving 11B grunts a bad reputation.
“BTW, why would any signatures on those documents issued at different places be the same?’ Um. I know! Because the signatures at issue were from the same hands.
Bingo. The Webb signatures on the two earlier DD214s are obviously similar enough to each other for someone to conclude that they were signed by the same person. The last DD214’s Webb “signature” is so dissimilar to the other two that, absent other evidence, a reasonable person would conclude that someone else had signed that later signature.
The reg prohibits use of a soldier in uniform as a primary graphic in political messages. How did you miss that young “reporter?”
AR 670-1 does NOT prohibit a reporter or blogger from using a photo of a Soldier (current or former) in uniform when writing about that Soldier. If you think it does, you’re wrong.
I served in 2/75 during the late 70s and there were several soldiers who did not and would not attend Ranger School. They were primarily in the admin and food service areas. We considered them scrolled but not tabbed, indicating they served in the unit but were not ranger qualified. They were treated the same as the rest of us and were addressed as Ranger Smith etc , until they became NCOs. Most soldiers assigned below the grade of E6 were not initially qualified and would serve for about a year before attending the school, as they had to rise on a merit list before attending. If I remember correctly, E6’s and above would already be qualified or attend the school en route. Several of the admin types were willing to change mos in order to attend, but they generally deployed with us at any rate. We did have some bad ass clerks and cooks. For the record, the only reason I was there was that each company had an organic artillery lieutenant, and the were not that many FA types that had volunteered for Ranger School as it was not considered career enhancing, but could be a detriment if you failed to pass.
George….Thank you for your service. But MOST of all, thank you for your HONESTY.
Truth? You can’t handle the truth.
You don’t know the truth AND you don’t know me, Mike Webb.
Go back to watching Jack Nicholson movies asshole.
George: That pretty much jibes with what I was told. I went through PLDC at Fort Lewis(home of 2nd Ranger Batt) and they had a policy of assigning one Ranger to each PLDC small group. Since the Battalion would not send a soldier to PLDC unless they were already tabbed, these guys were pretty sharp. Ours was named Frank Osinski and I still remember a lot of the stuff he taught us. He explained the process to us like this: Soldier goes through basic/AIT, volunteers for jump school. Ranger recruiters would come through the jump school classes and ask who was interested in joining the batt, obviously most of them were 11B/11C but they had a list of support MOSs they needed as well. Once the soldier was vetted by the recruiter, they would then be scheduled to attend RIP (for E-4 and below) or ROP (for NCO’s and officers) immediately after jump school. I believe RIP/ROP was located right there at Fort Benning but I’m not sure exactly where. I think RIP/ROP were either 2 or 3 weeks long, can’t remember. It was supposed to be very intense, lots of PT, lots of “do it right now and do it perfectly” type drills, not much sleep, etc. After a soldier completed RIP/ROP, they were given their black beret and scroll (shoulder sleeve insignia) then assigned to a battalion (or to Regimental HQ at Benning.) At that point they were “Rangers” and were addressed as such (IOW, PFC Snuffy was “Ranger Snuffy.”) For the next year or so they would be evaluated by their leaders to see if they “fit in.” If they slacked off, performed poorly during PT or weapons qual or were otherwise poor performers they were booted out of the regiment. If not, once they got to SPC they were slotted for Ranger school. If they failed Ranger school they were normally booted unless it was a medical failure in which case they MIGHT get a second shot (though I was told that for lower enlisted that was virtually unheard of.) Once they passed Ranger school they… Read more »
Back in the dark ages(when men were men and sheep were nervous) Rip was held at the battalion level and many of the instructors had recently completed Ranger School. The instructors than taught a pre ranger course ( 3 weeks of intensive patrolling and PE prior to going to Ranger School). Back than, any graduate below the rank of E5 was promoted one grade upon graduation, which was well deserved. Due to the efforts of the pre ranger cadre, the pass rate was over 90%.
Interesting! Thanks.
Like you said, without a tab, Rangers did not go to PLDC. My BC sent me to OCS.
Anybody who believes that.DOES NOT know me and you don’t either, Mike Webb.
Hey, Doc Martin. The Regiment generally does not recruit in Jump School, for many reasons, but they are literally just blocks away. In my day, you could get a Ranger Contract at the recruiting office, provided that you had an MOS that was required in the Regiment–HQ, Bat or RTB. Today, recruiters tell me that the “40 Option” (complete Airborne and RASP for assignment in a Ranger unit) to the Enlistment Contract is only offered to “soft skills” –i.e. non combat arms. Today, if you wannabe all you can be, you go 18X. Only 2% make it. The rest wash out and backfill the Rangers, if they dare. But then, as now, Recruiters looking to “make mission,” don’t push the 40 option to soft skillers. So, the Rangers have their own recruiting team that goes to places like Fort Jackson and hold sessions to present a death by powerpoint presentation on “I wannabe an Airborne Ranger.” And, a few say “I’ll do it.” The day you graduate Jump School you quickly realize that the Regiment is a “special place.” While everyone else is smiling after recovering from “blood wings” RIPees/RASPees are cordoned in a room where they suddenly are transported back to Day One in Old School Basic Training. High Stress Cycle. Most, after experiencing the good life, decide that is not the way to go, and in my day, on the next day–the first real day of training–50% claimed they could not complete the swim test because they could not swim. That was where soldiers got attrited. The rest was just a gut check. Now, once you got to Bat or Regiment, you had a very high incentive to go to Ranger School because if you had no Tab you were a third class citizen. An E4 with no Tab standing next to an E4 with a Tab was standing at Parade rest. Not just for a corporal, but a Specialist. A Tabbed soldier could literally tell you to do anything at any time, but most enjoyed Tab Checks, which I am very surprised that non-Tabbed Lilyea seems to… Read more »
To hell with Mike, I want to know about Layla and Ivone!
Out!
Well, he hit FoxNews a bit ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/17/oops-virginia-congressional-candidate-leaves-porn-tabs-open-on-facebook-post.html?intcmp=hpbt3
Thinking he might be the candidate now known as Former…
Good find CWO….funny thing, now this wannabee claims it was a test set up intentionally by himself….created to test a conspiracy theory. Shortly thereafter he appears to have found the Lord.
Now this is Presidential material, anyone who can think that fast.
So, why am I still here? How did I hit late night? Why was I still being discussed in the Chicago Tribune just last Friday. Army Secretary Gates once said, “We have a perfect record at predicting the future; we always get it wrong.” Guess he was talking about you. Two months ago, me and my stolen valor skills got on my Facebook page warning about a disconnect in intelligence where Mike Morell, former Deputy CIA director specifically stated that ISIS could not coordinate attacks and could not bring down “for instance a plane.” But, folks like you who believed that you could foretell the future better than me, were a word that starts with “w.”
Here’s a question for you guys.
When I reenlisted in 2004, I reenlisted as a 96B. The Intel series was still 96 at the time.
Was it also 96 for officers, or was it already a 35 series?
The reason I ask is because his last DD214 has 35D All source analysis, and that was in 2006. So I’m wondering if it switched over during that time period, or if it was always a 35 series for officers?
Officers have always been 35 series AFAIK. It wasn’t until recently that the enlisted MOS’s were adjusted to match the officer ones. Warrant Officers were also in the 35 series (350-B for all source warrant, for example.)
BTW I was also a 96B until I retired. I think they changed it to the 35B on my last NGB22 (NG equivalent of the DD214) as my retirement was effective 12/31/2006
Thanks for the info. I wasn’t sure, since I was enlisted.
That is correct (MI officer specialties being 35/350) back to at least the early 1980s. Pretty sure MI officers have been 35-series ever since the Army changed the officer specialty codes post-Vietnam to align them more closely with the enlisted MOS codes.
Prior to the post-Vietnam changes, the Army used a different scheme for commissioned officer specialty coding – a 4-digit code, with a 1-digit ASI prefix. In particular, intel officers appear to have had specialty codes beginning with 93XX, 96XX, or 16XX (unit commanders).
http://www.ichiban1.org/html/history_mos.htm
Officers have always been 35 series.
No. Only since the Army’s post-Vietnam officer specialty code changes. Prior to that, they used completely different specialty codes.
My apologies, Hondo. I was in the third grade when Vietnam ended, but apparently, some never left.
I wasn’t in Vietnam, either. But make it a point to do my homework before running my yap.
Like here, for instance. For the US Army, the Vietnam War ended in 1973 – not 1975, when (based on your DOB) you were in 3rd grade. Only USN and USAF personnel participated in Frequent Wind.
Frequent Wind was effectively a huge Embassy Evac/NEO operation. It was made a campaign of Vietnam for political reasons. Effectively, for US forces the Vietnam War ended in late Jan 1973 – less than a month after you turned 7.
Hey, honey. You call Google homework. Stay away from Harvard.
What is this “Hey, honey” shit? As long as we are exchanging tips on using the Internet, you may want to surf for porn AFTER you post your campaign information.
Heh! His PRON sites page just made Hot Air!
Between his inflated Ranger claims and his wearing of a barely “sanitized” ACU uniform for political gain, this guy comes across as sleazy, misleading, dishonest and not too bright (Jonn’s “brilliant” assessment notwithstanding.)
Saying “I wasn’t technically lying by calling myself a Ranger” or “I wasn’t technically breaking the law because my uniform didn’t have correct military insignia on it” might protect a person from criminal prosecution but it certainly isn’t going to get anyone to vote for him.
So much for a “Tab Check”
Heh!
Am I blind …I don’t see RIP in Military Education on his DD214. What am I missing?
SC: AFAIK RIP/ROP/RASP is not a 1059 school (i.e. it’s not an accredited military school that awards either a set of orders or a DA1059.) It’s just something that has to be done in order to get into the regiment.
Similar in some respects to the pre-ranger courses that some units run.
I just checked out his FB page. That dude is certifiably whacked. Like commit for psych treatment deranged. Scary crazy.
If one clicks on news.google.com and looks under the category heading “Most Poupular”, this is the first article: https://www.rt.com/usa/343364-candidate-congress-porn-facebook/
I bet The Russian Times is eternally grateful for the material. Maybe they’ll send Jonn a fruitcake.
Mia, I’m a cop*
*fixes the police departments printers
Now, that’s funny…..
A guy who went through RIP and served almost two years in a ranger battalion, even in a support MoS, has earned the right to say her was an Airborne Ranger.
Everyone in the Ranger Regiment is a Ranger.
Arguably they are the only rangers in the Army. The rest are “Ranger qualified.”
BLUF: I am not a Ranger.
But I am a Marine, and I am somewhat familiar with our SOF.
Support personnel assigned to a MARSOC unit do not go through the same A&S as operators. These personnel should be proud of their service, and their efforts are vital to mission accomplishment, but it would be incorrect to refer to these Marines as “Raiders” or MARSOC special operators — they support MARSOC.
My understanding is that the same is true for support personnel assigned to Navy SEAL teams: they did not go to BUDS and they are not SEALs — they support SEALs. Support personnel assigned to Army SF groups do not go to the SFQC and they are not “Green Berets” — they support Army SF.
However, support personnel (admin, intel, logistics/supply, communications/signal, etc) assigned to Ranger Battalions ARE considered “Rangers” because every single individual assigned to a Ranger Battalion goes through the same indoc process (e.g. RIP, ROP, RASP, what-have-you). Thus, regardless of whether they subsequently attend/pass Ranger School, these clerks, radiomen, etc are considered “Rangers”. As those in the Ranger Battalions are fond of saying, “the tab is a school, the scroll is a way of life”.
Rangers — did I get it right?
Good point. I was a little confused about the whole Ranger thing until I read through all the explanations how folks can claim that status. Wouldn’t it be easier for posers just to say they “identify as being a Ranger” since that whole self-identification thing seems to be so popular now.
Plus, guys, you’ve got to remember, and I’m probably going to offend someone here but, the army allows people who are NEVER going to serve as airborne or rangers to attend those schools to get the badge or tab as a “leadership” school or incentive. This is not like an operator attending a “q” course. All SF candidates, as far as I know, who pass the entire process and are qualified, serve as operators…..
Hate to burst your bubble, but when you go to RIP/RASP the whole idea is that it is a part of a contract–quid pro quo. Complete the course and get assigned to the Regiment. If you are in the Regiment for an incentive or puff out your chest, that is another matter.
I believe that all infantry officers are required to attend Ranger school these days.
It has always been encouraged, but not required. Even in the infantry there are slackers and folks that can’t make the cut.
Yes, that is correct. Those in the ranger regiment who went through RIP are “rangers” regardless of their roles in the regiment and regardless of whether they cent through ranger school.
The exception would be personnell assigned to a unit for a contingency operation, such as Civil Affairs, a female engegement team, or a collection team, depending on how their orders were written they may earn the scroll as a combat patch for their service assigned to the regiment but would not have have gone through the regiment selection/indoctrination process and would not be “rangers”.
It is a pretty unusual exception though.
When I said that Rangers came out of the woodwork to deny that “way of life,” saying.
Got it.
So, let’s take the hypothetical example of a JAG Officer.
A JAG Officer assigned to the Ranger Regiment must get through RASP first, which qualifies him as a “Ranger.
In contrast, a JAG Officer assigned to a SF Group does not go through the SFQC and is thus not a “Green Beret”, like Mr. Burch here:
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=65892
If that’s all true — then isn’t Mr. Webb correct in calling himself an Airborne Ranger? Sure, you could argue that it’s misleading in the sense that it leads to a false perception — but it’s technically, administratively, and legally correct, no?
Thanks for the analysis, but there is only one caveat. There are no JAG officer slots in the Regiment. Not even at Regiment HQ. When I was in the Bat, our senior legal NCO was SSG Frantz. He later became the DA contact for all Legal Specialists in the US Army. As a Legal Specialist in the Regiment you run solo, but go to post JAG when you need to arrange for a general court martial, like I did during a CID sting that nabbed over 100 soldiers post wide, resulted in about 20 Ranger separations, and one general court martial for distribution. Hey, isn’t Lilyea distributing acid here?
No, Jonn is not distributing acid here, but you are distributing manure.
Time to face reality. You never were a viable candidate for office; the only asset you had was that you served in the military, and whatever credibility that gave you was lost by you campaigning in a modified uniform; and the only name recognition you have is from the notoriety of your public “porn tab check”. Time to throw in the towel and explore other career options. May I suggest hitching your wagon to a “proud woman owned” company in Bethesda MD that fraudulently sells software to the federal government? Just tell them that Hack Stone sent you, that should open some mailbox doors.
Just talked to one of my cellmates who was an MI officer in the Ranger Regiment (and tabbed). When he was there, there was a JAG officer assigned to the Regiment HQ.
The cellmate retired a few years ago as a COL, so things might have changed. Maybe one of the current Rangers can elaborate.
Mike Webb, you’re more full of shit than three platoons of Used Car Salesmen.
Actually, it’s WAY easy for all the “POG’s” to go to Ranger school when they are assigned to a Bat compared to being in a regular unit[even an infantry bn]. I went to Pathfinder school with an E-4 Ranger tabbed supply clerk.
It appears candidate (non-Ranger)Webb has everything well in hand (pun intended).
I read this site every day. It’s one of my morning three…. thanks guys.
So he’s an airporne Ranger?
^^^^^^^ Jonn, Close these comments! Nothing can top that. 😀
He’s also apparently highly qualified in hand-to-gland combat.
O. K. all you pot heads. Anyone notice the large bong in his left pocket?
Personally, I didn’t look, but I’ll take your word for it. One other thing. What the hell
does having a large dong have to do with potheads?
I think your dyslexia must be acting up, 2/17 Air Cav. Pretty sure Jarhead wrote “bong” – with a “b” – above.
2/`7…..I don’t use such profanity in my writing. Had I been talking about the man’s organ, I’d have referenced the old “Banana in his pocket and pocket, and glad to see you”
Delete one on those “and pocket” for it to make any sense.
Now, to really stir some controversy, let me say this about the Ranger Regiment back in the days “when it was hard.” In the 1990s, when I was there, and even today, the average Ranger was just 19 years old. I was 26, but I did not find RIP at all difficult or something about which to brag after completion. Now, while it is true today that less than 25% of people between the ages of 18 and 24 are even eligible to join the military, those who do find their way to RASP today have it easier in one respect: the APFT standards have been reduced for all age and sex categories since the 1990s, but the attrition rates remain the same. Go figure. A score of 70 in each event, a five mile run at an 8 minute per mile pace, and 10 pull ups? It was a cake walk for me, and I was not only old but smoking 2 packs of cigarettes per day and dipping tobacco without spitting. When I went to RIP, we lost 50% of our class on Day One at the swimming pool for the CWST, not because they could not pass, but because they lacked intestinal fortitude, woke up, and decided they no longer wished “it could suck just a little bit more.” I learned how to swim during Airborne School going to the Post Swimming Pool every night after training with a lifeguard who taught me everything I needed to pass the test, and these guys just lied and said they could not swim so that they could join the leg infantry. Stolen valor? But, after that there was nothing hard about RIP, even if that bursts your illusion. A 12 mile ruck march with a 50 pound ruck? Come on. But it is “spec ops kindergarten” where you learn to do the cool stuff and where the rubber hits the road if you want to really be all you can be. Today, a recruiter told me, you cannot get a Ranger Contract as a grunt at the Recruiting Office.… Read more »
Mike. Unlike your FB postings, you sound lucid here. That explanation for the porn tabs was a hoot. Me? I didn’t care one whit about the tabs. I was glad to see that they traced neither to gay nor other perverted stuff.
And how do I know this? I am not a reporter like John or Nikki, but I took a class and “play one on tv.”
Today, AirPorne Ranger Webb claimed again on his FB page that he had a “distinguished” military career. Based on records he posted, its was a best ordinary and lackluster. The only thing that stands out is not deploying in 20 years. I bet his actual performance in the military was as dishonest and poor as it is in his failed campaign.
Wow… just, WOW!
I think someone’s campaign is having a few “problems”… and the candidate is in damage control mode.
Reviving this is just going to drive it up the Google hit parade and make it #1.
Well, Senior Chief, he wants to know why people go online to let everyone know they are STOOPID.
You’d think he’d be able to answer his own question, wouldn’t you?
Hey, Ex? Did we do it? Why don’t you tell your story the next time we are on late night, together. I won’t hold my breath.
You don’t know me, Mike Webb.
A little bit of advice, although too late, for Candidate Mike Web, “The Internet; It’s Not Just For Porn, Anymore”.
I’ll just leave these here . . . .
https://www.arlnow.com/2016/05/17/webb-i-was-testing-porn-sites-for-viruses/
https://www.arlnow.com/2016/04/26/gop-congressional-candidate-fails-to-file-fec-report-on-time-blames-cyber-attack/
http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CommitteeDetailFilings.do?tabIndex=3&candidateCommitteeId=C00591537&electionYr=2016
Any comment, “Mikey”?
Sounds like a conspiracy… DA MAN is keeping him from running for office.
(Channeling “Shaft”)
You seem to collect the news. You are not a reporter. So, why don’t you continue to go to your noose stand, HONEY?
You talk like a third-rate streetcorner pimp and YOU DON’T KNOW ME, Mike Webb.
Three “Honeys” on this web site and you are OUT. I just knew sooner or later you’d separate the clothes hangers and make your appearance. Guess you’re happy with the new GBLT head rules. That way you can be “honey” today and “sir” tomorrow.
So, Webb – did you ever file those overdue campaign financial reports with the FEC?
Latest thing their website shows (as of about noon today) is that you’re overdue on the 1st quarter report – and it still doesn’t appear to have been filed.
http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CommitteeDetailFilings.do?tabIndex=3&candidateCommitteeId=C00591537&electionYr=2016
IMHO Mike Webb is STIL a booger-eating thumbsucking bedwetter. 20 years and no deployments? DESK JOCKEY!