Shots fired on Capitol Hill

| October 3, 2013

Apparently the shooter is in custody and the Capitol is locked down. According to the live stream at ABC7, WJLA sent to us by Chief Tango. PintoNag sends this link;

The United States Capitol was placed on lockdown Thursday afternoon after shots were fired in the vicinity of the chamber. At least one Capitol Police officer was injured, officials said

The FBI was responding to the scene, and a helicopter landed in front of the Capitol. A message from the Capitol Police ordered anyone in a House office to “shelter in place.”

UPDATE: ABC is reporting that a FEMALE shooter was killed.

Fox says the Capitol is no longer locked down. Might have been the conclusion of a car chase from outside the Capitol.

Something about trying to ram the White House gates before the chase began. Had a child in the car?

Law enforcement says that she didn’t try to ram the gate, that the woman is in custody (not killed), eye witnesses say she didn’t fire any shots, other says that she did. The car had non-DC plates on it. What a cluster.

Suspect was shot, but capitol police chief doesn’t know if she was armed or not yet. Injured officer wasn’t shot. It sounds to me that she tried to ram a gate behind the Treasury Building (quite a way from the White House – you can’t even see the White House from there) and then turned around and headed south towards the Capitol on Constitution Ave followed by the police.

I have to think that it was just a frustrated driver in DC.

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LZ

I will not be surprised to see a lot more of this in the near future. Desperate populations are historically bad for the people viewed as “in power.”

PintoNag

The American people are under a lot of stress, and have been for some time. The cracks are beginning to show.

OWB

Evidently started at Lafayette Park. (Am expecting a knock on the door any moment, since I asked if it had been closed.)

LZ

Female shooter… That part is actually surprising.

A Proud Infidel

I was wondering just who or what the MSM would try to blame first, Cruz, the Tea Party, Bush, or an AR15?

Old Tanker

MSM to blame tea party in 3…2…1…

Redacted1775

But but……DC is a gun free zone…oh, wait…

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

Let’s just hope this was a lone crazed actor who is not a GOVT employee. Nothing funny about these incidents.

OWB

She was driving a scary black car. With a baby on board? Hmmm.

Old Trooper

@8: You’re right, Master Chief; there’s nothing funny about these incidents, but we already know how it will be framed in the media and that is what people are betting the over/under on.

2/17 Air Cav

I know that this will come as a disappointment to some, but the report is that there was a car chase, with multiple police vehicles in pursuit, and that an occupant of the chased car came out shooting. Facts are at a premium right now. One report did not reveal that she is a Muslim. Another did not reveal whether she is a disgruntled federal employee. Yest another did not identify her as a member of a tour group denied access to the Lincoln Memorial. Stay tuned for more unreported stories.

SGT Kane

A friend of a friend of my cousin’s dog walker who is there says MSNBC is claiming it was a WWII vet, who suffering from PTS got overly excited about storming the WWII monument and thought he was back on Normandy.

No word on his political affiliation at this time.

Too soon?

OWB

Oh, good. Those first amendment protesters over in Lafayette Park are safe. The gate ramming attempt was on the 15th St side, away from the precious stinkers.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

@ 10 your are right.

OWB

OK – anyone want to place odds that the suspect had no gun and that all shots fired were from one agency or another?

Club Manager

Women with child in the car, first attempted to ram the WH gate then went towards the Treasuary, rammed another, injured a police officer, was shot and killed. Child is okay. Network talking heads reporting she “may have know a veteran sometime in her life.” Have to feel sorry for the child.

Ex-PH2

Best not to speculate about this until more facts are in.

LZ

I’m not speculating when I say this was a person pushed beyond rational thought. I don’t know which straw broke her back, but it must have been a doozy to go off the handle with her child in the car.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

Two Senarios:

1. Bat sh!t crazy lady.

2. Incident inappropriately escalated by hyper vigilant LEO’s resulting in preventable shootout.

Any questions?

Twist

I read the comments on Yahoo and the Liberals are already blaming the Tea Party, Republicans, and the NRA.

SGT Kane

I do love how the lead line on CNN’s article changed from “Gunfire erupted near the U.S. Capitol” to “Police near the U.S. Capitol opened fire on a car”. Remember its only erupting gunfire when the police aren’t doing it.

Ex-PH2

@16 – I’m watching a network report and NOT ONE WORD about veterans has been used. I don’t know where you’re getting that, but drop it NOW.

Someone tried to breach the security at the White House to no effect. That didn’t work, so the driver went up Pennsylvania Avenue, now shut down, chased by DC police, ending near the Hart Senate office building.

That’s all that has been reported so far. Nobody knows nothin’.

bullnav

I don’t believe it for a minute. Guns are illegal there.

DirtDart

EeWaiting for blame vet game. Don’t know what think. Ph2 is right neeed more Intel

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

Actor had no weapon.

2/17 Air Cav

So, a crazy woman with a child in her car plays pinball using her car against barricades. Police shoot her. Is that about it?

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

Revised Senario:

1. Lost or confused driver happens upon south east gate area of WH and an innocent wrong turn causes incident.

That is where my money is going.

USMCE8Ret

@25 – That’s what I was sorta thinking.

I hate to throw this out there, but I’m curious if anyone was shot due to D.C. police officers? (After all, it happened in NYC some time ago.)

2/17 Air Cav

How can anyone get lost in DC, the city where you drive in on a two-way street and when you attempt to leave by the same route, you find it’s a one way street? The first time I drove in DC, my passenger kept saying, “You missed another one! The lights are NOT OVER the intersection!” I must have rolled through five red lights before I learned.

David

Only way to tell is by the number rounds fired vs. hits… if the ratio is any better than 30:1, it wasn’t DC cops.

TN

A hypothetical along the lines of MCPO’s possibility:

Woman with child driving in the confusing streets of DC attempts to turn around (probably distracted by cell phone/text messages/ phone GPS/ etc.) turns into apparent parking lot, and hits the gate. Seeing no damage and deciding to go on her way, she leaves the scene, observed by an unmarked car, which then attempts to pull her over.

The woman, having read many reports of fake police officers pulling over lone women and committing crimes on them, decides to continue driving (reports indicate 40mph speed). Uniformed police corner and “trap” her, guns drawn. She panics, fleeing the scene of trigger happy police.

Trigger happy police then shoot woman dead, perceiving her car as a deadly weapon. Child is left motherless.

Is that what happened? It is plausible, but we really don’t know much at this point.

PintoNag

Aw,come on, guys. Did you see the car?? The front bumper is off and the whole right side is demolished. She hit a gate, sideswiped a police car, crashed and started shooting.

You are all going on like it was some little old blue-haired lady!

David

I’ve seen my wife’s driving – I thought that was normal.

OWB

Yeah, PN, I am looking at the car rolling down the street, and it looks pretty much undamaged.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

@ 33 I will double my bet. I.

OWB

And, multiple cop types reporting that she did not have a gun.

DaveO

More information needed.

Glad someone saw camera shots of it. After the Matthew Shephard lie, not sure how anyone can believe the MSM.

PintoNag

Yup. I’m wrong. The car that had all the damage was WHITE. The right side was gone, but I THINK it may have been a police car. And I went looking for the pic to post a link, and couldn’t find it again.

I’ll slink back under my rock now.

Spade

MSNBC will report she was driving an AR-15

Ex-PH2

I had to go to the store to get some soda for popcorn this evening, thinking that this needs much more investigation and reporters need to be muzzled.

I was right. I have conflicting reports on my computer, AS TO (hi, there, psul the uncool, haven’t heard from you for a while, you busy?) what/who/how exactly went on, e.g., the following:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/shots-heard-capitol-building-under-lockdown
(Female suspect is in custody in this story)

and this: http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/03/20805397-shots-fired-at-uscapitol-female-suspect-killed?lite&gt1=43001
(Female suspect is killed)

All I know right now is that she was driving a black SUV, maybe a Lexus (maybe not), rammed section of the barriers on the sidewalk by the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue, then went flying (40MPH in DC IS flying, trust me) down PA Avenue with the cops trailing along behind her.

I suggest that, instead of making speculative posts about her, we wait until the REAL news is available for popular consumption, which should be in about 10 minutes from now (3:52PM CDT, my computer tells me).

Meantime, I have worked out the twists in two short stories, so that I can finish them and get them uploaded to Amazon/Kindle so that you can read them. You’ll like them. The one I’m about to finish is about a serial killer who is hunting for the person who put him away.

Ex-PH2

And the cereal that he kills is Cheerios.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

I am reading something you guys have not seen yet. Someone(s) has some spainin’ to do!

SGT Kane

MCPO NYC USN yeah they do.

Old Trooper

@19: I’ll take bat shit crazy for $100, Alex.

2/17 Air Cav

OWB: I hope you laid down a sizeable sum b/c she did not have a gun. Also, although many BIG NEDIA are saying she “rammed” the WH gate, the damage to her car is inconstistent with that. Furthermore, the police car was damaged and an officer injured in a “related” matter and evidently had no contact with her vehicle. She has a front and rear plate but I can’t tell whether it’s DC or a state plate. I’m sure that the PR people are already working the storyline that several poice were heroes. That’s when the alarms go off for me and I begin that this was a “he shot so I shot so they shot…and no, I never saw a gun. I thought the others did.”

David

PintoNag – currently the lead photo on http://www.yahoo.com is a white heavily damaged clearly marked police car – that sound familiar?ront bumpe is on it, but trying real hard to come off. Motor pool sergeant ain’t gonna be happy.

Raja

The article I read states that the office clipped a barrier attempting to join the chase.
And in this picture it doesn’t look like much ramming damage.

http://slideshow.nbcnews.com/slideshow/news/shots-fired-on-capitol-hill-53178030/

2/17 Air Cav

Secret Service: “Mr. President, a crazy woman just rammed one of the gates sir.”

Baracka: “I see. Was the car trying to leave or enter? And, oh, by the way, have you seen the first lady this afternoon?”

TN

PH: even what we “know” isn’t all that certain. It appears the first incident was a block away from the WH. It appears the vehicle was black, but not an SUV. It appears the whole thing took place in 15 blocks, but was a block away from Treasury, Capitol Bldg, and the White House.

Some have speculated that she was Tea Party, that she was upset over ObamaCare, that she was upset over the govt shutdown, and some that she was black.

I’ll agree to the following “facts:” there was an incident in DC, which means in the vicinity of multiple Federal buildings and that the Capitol police fired rounds at a black sedan, which had previously been stopped, and backed into their vehicles.

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