35 years for Breanna Manning
The news shows are too busy running their “Hi, I’m Doug and I have Mesothelioma” ads to report it, but a couple of sources report that Manning has been sentenced to 35 years. I think, using Price is Right rules, I won, because I was closest without going over when I predicted 30 years yesterday. So pay up, dickweeds.
Fox News is saying that he can get 10 years off for good behavior, I don’t know what their source is for that, but it is what it is.
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Well, I’m sure he’ll get plenty of “support” at Leavenworth with his “gender identity” issues and plenty of gay sex to help him thru all those tough years as a result of his childhood…
Federal rap, right? No parole from what I understand.
Bye-Bye, Manning.
Or until Obama pardons him on the way out the door.
Bingo, GT. That’s exactly what I predicted.
Obama is an inept liberal buffoon, but there are somethings even he wouldn’t be stupid enough to pull.
30 years… Then he/she writes a book and makes a million.
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Uh, huh huh. He said dickweed.
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See comment #9 here: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=37164
Nailed it. 35 fuggin’ years.
Hope his soul gets butt-fucked in prison.
Nik: I thought the same, but regrettably that doesn’t seem to be the case. Like many other things under the UCMJ, parole is handled differently than normal Federal criminal courts. Article 74 of the UCMJ gives service secretaries the authority to set up procedures for parole. That same authority does not exist for sentences handed down by other Federal courts.
Basic procedures seem to be detailed in AR 15-130. Consideration begins after 1/3 of the sentence has been served. He can also apply for clemency after serving 5 years.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r15_130.pdf
I’ll see if I can find the underlying Federal law. It will be in title 10, probably somewhere in the 800s, if I recall the location of the UCMJ correctly.
Bottom line is that the little traitorous sh!t apparently will be eligible for parole in less than a decade, and can apply for clemency sooner than that.
IMO, justice was not served by this sentence. Perhaps karma will deliver him true justice instead in the future.
I wonder if (s)he’ll bawl all the way to Ft. Leavenworth like (s)he did in Boot Camp?
That’s it? She should have gotten the full meal deal, 110!
He will be out in 8.5.
Parole available after 1/3, 35 years is roughly 12 years, but he’s already done about 3.
I do not think Manning can handle hard labor.
Suck it up, buttercup.
Washington Post wrote: “Manning will receive a credit of 1,293 days for the time he has been confined prior to the sentence, including 112 days of credit for abusive treatment he was subjected to in the brig at the Quantico Marine Base.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/judge-to-sentence-bradley-manning-today/2013/08/20/85bee184-09d0-11e3-b87c-476db8ac34cd_story.html
Addendum to comment 10: statutory authority is 10 USC 874, found here:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/874
AR 15-130 appears to be the implementation of this authority and provides the regulatory guidance and framework.
Sh!t. The little bastard may well see another dawn as a free man before he croaks. He shouldn’t.
After all: Khalifa Abdullah, a tribal elder from Monar village in Kandahar exposed by Manning’s leaks and later murdered by the Taliban, certainly never will.
Re: the 1/3 off for good behavior remark, Fox never did source that.
This was about what I expected, a “compromise” sentence.
send the ben-gay ooops that’s supposed to be KY
Hondo, the UCMJ starts at 10 USC 801. So Article 74 is 10 USC 874, Article 134 is 10 USC 934, etc.
btw, I know folks are just kidding around, but I will tell you – the fellows I’ve known in the USDB (both prisoners and folks who work there) agree that discipline is very strong there, and even convicted child molesters (a sizable portion of the population) are not in serious danger of rape, gang violence, etc.
You don’t really want that to happen anyway, not only because you’re civilized, but because it would create a very strong case for clemency — I once saw a man get 10 days removed from a 90-day sentence because they didn’t let his wife call him for the first month or two. (Administrative screw-up, not malice.) Someone who actually got raped might get a really massive reduction, like getting released immediately, and then spend the rest of his life playing the victim card in public. (“Oh, the SECDEF must’ve ordered it! Just like Abu Ghraib!”)
(There are some advocacy groups out there massively exaggerating the amount of prison rape that goes on in general – but regardless of the real numbers I think Leavenworth is not that dangerous for a prisoner.)
I, for one, feel greatly let down.
For those curious about life inside the USDB here is a blog written by a former Army Officer who is now an inmate there.
http://captainincarcerated.wordpress.com/
Yeah, well, Fox says that, “He could be eligible for parole before he reaches the age of 40.” That’s a fail. I think the reporter got the info from someone who is familiar with the state system. This ain’t that. There are methods by which a federal inmate can get out early but the military inmates are not eligible for at least one of those methods and, as we all know by now, there is no federal parole.
Bummer.
Let us fervently hope the military parole boards do what Judge Lind should’ve.
As Breanna is such a preciously special little snowflake, this will be harder time for him than it would for a functioning adult.
No matter when he gets out, it will be too soon.
@ 22 cakmakli
Any backstory on who Captain Russ Incarcerated?
/just curious.
@4…yep! Look for a “Commutation of sentence.” Kumbaya!
2/17 Air Cav: the UCMJ appears to give the military prisons different legal authorities than are present for other Federal courts regarding parole and commutation. See the links in my comments 10 and 17 above. I wasn’t aware of that until Alberich brought that to my attention and I “pulled the thread” on same.
Bottom line: unlike the rest of the Federal prison system, the military prison system apparently does allow parole – starting as early as 1/3 of time served. And for non-life sentences, clemency can be requested starting at 5 years.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=37164#comment-912160
I also nailed it.
Pay up. You own the blog, so I won’t call ya dickweed, at least.
I said I wanted 60, but guessed it would be 35 to 40, here: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=37164&cpage=2#comment-912109
I think it should have been 40.
@26, I am also curious.
Breanna did her deed because she was Butthurt, (oops, she can’ be butthurt,unless she was deprived of the “butting”), so now she can find a new lover that will be all she ever dreamed of. She will probably be smiling all the way through indoctrination, just dreaming of her new guy.
In his case, with his issues? It may make little difference. As has already been noted, for a little snowflake as special as he wishes he were, every day will be torment for him.
Still, not at all happy with the brevity of the sentence.
@20: It’s not surprising that discipline is as strong as your describing. And given Manning’s problem with discipline in general, he’s probably going to have a very bad time while he’s in.
@16: including 112 days of credit for abusive treatment he was subjected to in the brig at the Quantico Marine Base.”
Abusive? Prison isn’t supposed to be comfortable! I hate people sometimes.
No such rule for good behavior … he will serve every minute!
Actually, MCPO – there appears to be credit for good behavior in military prisons. Alberich (a serving Army JAGC) noted that in another discussion. For sentences in excess of 10 years, if granted it’s 10 days per month served. See page 9 in
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r633_30.pdf
It’s possible the Navy and USMC don’t do that, but I’d guess all services have the same policy. I base that on my understanding that military hard-case felons do time at USDB if male and at the NavConsBrig if female. That would seem to require consistent policies regarding “good behavior” credit.
Do you guys think this will send a precedent in which could hurt by not “making an example” and we see repeats?
He should have gotten life IMO!
#34, it would surprise me – he doesn’t strike me as one of those brave-but-stupid souls who’d butt up against prison-style discipline. “Whine too much,” maybe. “Try to litigate against the prison system for fantasy civil rights violations,” again, maybe, especially if his fans will bankroll him. But not the kind of stuff that’d actually lose him good time.
#36, I should add that I am no longer active Army but am glad to be of help.
It’s not NEAR enough time for the crime. Manning should have gotten so much time that he would die in prison. And if he got re-incarnated, he should go right back to penitentiary.
Alberich: noted, and thanks for the correction. I knew you’d previously said you were planning to leave AD, but didn’t remember you saying that you had already.
Best of luck as a “civvie.” (smile)
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Move over, 100% Asshole, I’m joining you on the stupid bench. Okay, there is parole for military prisoners. There is no right to it. The review for a Bab’s first parole consideration is at the 10-year mark for someone sentenced to 30 years but less than life.
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/132507p.pdf
Haha!
So, if I’m reading this whole thing right, he’ll have the opportunity to walk in about 10-12 years?
2/17 Air Cav: hey, don’t feel bad amigo. On this one I’m sitting right next to ya on the bench. I though exactly the same thing until Alberich pointed out to me that I was wrong. Then I double-checked – and verified myself that I had been an idiot.
But I’m now an educated and reformed idiot. (smile)
Seriously – the UCMJ has many differences from the rest of Federal law; this is apparently yet another.
Naah, a stupid person would go on insisting it wasn’t true and cite fictitious experiences to prove it.
PintoNag: earlier than that, actually.
The shithead turncoatManning will get credit for a bit over 3 years time served prior to sentencing. 1/3 of 35 = 11.67 years. So he’d be eligible for first consideration for parole in about 8 1/2 years (as TSO has observed above). Not automatic, but possible.He could also apply for clemency at the 5 year point (and annually thereafter). But I’d guess that to be a longer shot than getting paroled.
I don’t think time off for good behavior plays into that, as I think – but am not positive – that that comes off the end of his 35 year sentence. So best case, if
the shithead turncoatManning keeps his nose clean and his mouth shut in the USDB he’ll be out in a bit less than 20 years.Thanks, COL Lind. That’s some “appropriate justice” you just handed out to someone who sold out his country during wartime – somewhere between 8.5 and 20 years in jail. Wonderful. That will really serve as a deterrent. (I hope the sarcasm in this last para is self-evident.)
Disappointing. Should have been life plus one year.
And it isn’t over.
You know there will be appeals.
Based on the link 2/17 Air Cav posted from earlier this year (Mar 2013), apparently the little asshole gets parole consideration at 10 years now vice after 1/3 sentence. He could thus be back on the street in less than 7 years.
Sh!t.