Senate fails to pass gun regs
Pat sends us a link to the Washington Post which tearfully reports that the new gun control regulations have failed to get the necessary number of votes in the Senate. And it went down in a bipartisan vote;
The vote on the so-called Manchin-Toomey amendment was 54 in favor, 46 against — failing to reach the 60-vote threshold needed to move ahead. Four Republicans supported it, and four Democrats voted no.
Two screeching gun control harpies were removed from the chamber when they shouted “Shame on you!” to no one in particular.
“They are an embarrassment to this country, that they don’t have any compassion or care for people who have been taken brutally from their families,” Maisch said as officers attempted to remove her from the building. “I hate them,” she said of the senators.
“We’re sick and tired of the death in this country and these legislators stand up there and think it’s a bunch of numbers,” said Haas, whose daughter, Emily, was wounded in the April 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech.
“It’s a shame, it’s appalling, it’s disgusting,” she added.
I guess they couldn’t find anyone who was pleased the bill was defeated, because they didn’t bother to interview anyone with that particular view. Oh, by the way, one of those Republicans who defected was – surprise! – John McCain;
“Is this a perfect solution? No. will it prevent all future acts of gun violence? Of course not,” McCain said. “Would it have prevented the most recent acts of gun violence? In all likelihood, no. But it is reasonable, and it is my firm conviction that it is constitutional.”
So, McCain just thought that he should “do something” irrespective of the result. Who needs him? Harry Reid, at the last minute decided that he’d vote for it, too, I know, you’re surprised;
In a notable reversal, Reid said he would vote for a proposed assault weapon ban “because maintaining a law and order is more important than satisfying conspiracy theories, who believe in black helicopters and false flags. I’ll vote for the ban because saving the lives of police officers – young and old – and innocent civilians – young and old, is more important than preventing imagined tyranny.”
The tyranny that Harry, the draft dodger, says is imagined, is right there in his mirror every morning.
Joe Bite Me, probably one of the big reasons that bill failed, since he was riding herd on gun control and couldn’t keep his lips from flapping about the most ridiculous shit on the planet was fairly pissed;
Biden reiterated that the proposal would not create or lead to the creation of a federal gun registry. “Nothing can be further from the truth,” he said.
Biden also dismissed suggestions that the measures would infringe upon people’s constitutional right to bear arms.
“There is no – zero – no infringement on the Second Amendment, not one single thing being proposed,” he said.
Yeah, well, no one on the planet believes a thing you’re saying anymore, Bite Me. You’re a punch line. You should resign. After Sandy Hook, gun control was a slam dunk and the president guaranteed it’s failure by putting Bite Me in charge of it.
What a wet firecracker. Yeah, and if the Left wants to blame someone, blame Biden and the other morons who thought they had something to contribute to the debate, but they were uninformed and downright ignorant and dishonest. Blame the inflated statistics and polls. Blame Bloomberg for being a rich guy trying to shove his personal ignorance down our collective throat. The soft drink ban in NYC contributed to this failure as much as anything. Blame Mark Kelly for trying to deny stuff for the rest of us while buying the same stuff for himself.
The gun grabbers showed their collective ass throughout the “national discussion” and no real American wanted to be seen as part of the ignorant, hypocritical crowd who wanted to disarm America while clinging to their own guns. And now, despite the failure of the legislation, the Democrats are going to pay for their lies to our face next November. Now they know why the Clinton Gun Ban wasn’t renewed last decade.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
Oh, don’t worry. We haven’t won anything, yet. Not by a long shot. Like a frigging virus, it won’t die, it’ll just mutate, and come roaring right back around again.
Oh well… There is always EOs.
And to think we avoided sending Joe or Michelle Obama to Thatcher’s funeral because they were the point people on gun control and there was sooooo much work going on with gun control in Congress.
Caught Barry on MSNBC struggling to explain the failure to secure 60 votes and resorted to basically calling the gun lobby a bunch of liars on background checks. Yeah, this from a guy who for first 40 yrs of his life claimed he was born in Kenya – before he was born in Hawaii and empty campaign promises on healthcare, taxes, and caring for vets. Bam also has some esplainin to do on why he only paid 18.4% on taxes and got life time Secret Service protection reinstated for himself and Bush 43 – jeezus what a POS. For me, but not for thee.
The liberal political wailing about this Senate vote caused this quote to come to mind:
“…it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”
–Macbeth, Scene V
The fact that Reid referred to tyranny, despite dismissing as the wild imaginings of conspiracy theorists, is significant. It tells me that the tyrants and would-be tyrants ARE getting the message. And as for Joe Biden saying Jthat nothing could be further from the truth, that lying plagiarist SOB is a perfect administration spokesman for truth. To them, truth is a relative term and a tool. If they believe that calling a fiction a truth or calling a truth a fiction will advance their agenda, so be it. Lastly, there’s my personal disappointment, Joe “One and Done” Manchin. Screw him. I should have known better than to vote for a democrat–even one who SEEMED to be level headed and more conservative than many current Republicans.
these friggin commies on the left are simply,,maniacs!
They’ve failed to do it in broad daylight, now they’ll try to get their way via bureaucracy or Midnight Legislation (Remember the Congressional Pay Raise?). Liberals never cease their crusade to squelch individual freedom and Liberty!
The defecting Republicans need to be pounded and pounded so that maybe–just maybe–they will reconsider WHEN this 2nd Amendment matter crops up again. The fact that this element of the amended bill was defeated does not bode well for obamaman now trying to take any extra-executive steps through executive orders. It really doesn’t. And that’s a good thing.
Nicely played Harry Reid. He votes for the ban, giving him top cover with the Prognazis. His vote on the losing side means he, as Senate Majority Leader, can not Reconsider this bill under the Rules of the Senate (http://www.rules.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=RuleXIII) so Reid wins with the NRA.
“1. When a question has been decided by the Senate, any Senator voting with the prevailing side or who has not voted may, on the same day or on either of the next two days of actual session thereafter, move a reconsideration; and if the Senate shall refuse to reconsider such a motion entered, or if such a motion is withdrawn by leave of the Senate, or if upon reconsideration the Senate shall affirm its first decision, no further motion to reconsider shall be in order unless by unanimous consent. Every motion to reconsider shall be decided by a majority vote, and may be laid on the table without affecting the question in reference to which the same is made, which shall be a final disposition of the motion.”
Should I be happy Harry f*cked over his own side? How does Harry profit from this maneuver?
I feel bad for whomever had to interrupt B. Hussein Obama trashing his office in a fit of rage to inform him he had an upcoming press conference. The man looked nothing short of angry; he doesn’t hide that particular emotion well at all. John McCain’s quote signifies exactly what’s wrong with the thought process on this issue. To paraphrase: “we know this won’t change anything, but let’s do it anyways.”
At least a majority of them heard enough to vote correctly.
My life membership in the NRA was money well spent!
this was a salvage vote on the part of the senate.
they would have been smoked in the mid-terms if they would
have voted otherwise.
A whiney, spoiled brat, who throws a tantrum when he doesn’t get his way.
I know this isn’t even close to over, and there were some downsides, but there are just so many of these delicious hoplophobe tears and I can’t possibly drink it all but
One of the “screeching gun control harpies” (nice to know you’re a sexist as well as racist piece of shit) is Patricia Maisch the woman who grabbed the third clip from the gunman in the Arizona shooting. The other “harpy” Lori Hass was a woman whose daughter was injured in the Virginia Tech shooting. A shooting that may well have been prevented if there was a background system in place like there was today.
But, I’m not surprised, as always you’re incapable of the most basic research. And when it comes to guns, the most basic decency.
Wearing my “Dont Tread On Me” tee shirt from RU in honor of the failed attempt to infringe on our 2nd Amendment rights.
@17. The self-proclaimed pornographer has now invoked decency? Bwahahahahahahahaha. If I didn’t think you would enjoy it, I’d tell you to eat a steaming pile of dicks.
Doesn’t matter who they were or what cause they did or did not support, sippy. They were rude harpies who made an intentional scene in an inappropriate place.
Would you prefer that they be called attention whores?
Well, I don’t hunt and I don’t participate in competition shooting events. I do, however, believe that I am responsible for the protection and security of myself and my loved ones. I further believe that the Government, at any level, cannot be trusted.
That said, I’ll keep my weapons.
I’m not a pornographer, i work part-time for one. And I wouldn’t if pornography caused the devastation that guns do.
@20- Oh, fuck you and you’re “not appropriate” bullshit. Republicans have patented “not appropriate” from writing some of the most vile shit i can imagine to a grieving mother on a youtube page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Mlqsp5BF8
To comparing Barack Obama to OJ Simpson because of Ben Ghazi, to declaring the President Obama is not an American because of the color of his skin and his funny name, to shouting “you lie” at a press conference to showing up for town hall meetings with the sole intention of causing a disturbance to governors waving boney fingers in the Presidents face to a 24/7 smorgasbord of President Obama is a Maoist Marxist Nazi communist that is trying to destroy America on the AM radio dial, to pictures of the President with a Hitler Mustache to one’s with a bone through his nose to pictures of the white house surrounded with watermelons to accusations that Sandy Hook was “false flag” operation to depictions of Obama as a face ripper monkey that needs to be shot down and all that is without me doing a mili-second of research. No one in the GOP has any business talking to anyone about decency. You don’t know the meaning of the term.
@20 How bout calling one of them a hero who almost died in Arizona and another a concerned citizen who almost lost her daughter due to a madman?
@17. So? Assigning victim status to themselves gives them more credibility?
And, for this, ” A shooting that may well have been prevented if there was a background system in place like there was today”. Go over to the clues closet and get a clue, the same background system is in place.
But, I’m not surprised. As always, you’re incapable of making sense.
I see Nobama isn’t the only one throwing a hissy fit over this whole thing…
As an old 1SG used to say “He’s thu T H U thu”
@24- No there was no background check in place for the Arizona tech shooter, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Any mentally deranged person can buy what they want and, thanks to today’s vote they’ll continue to be able to do so.
We’ll remember in November.
@24- Also, did Mrs Hass shoot her own daughter? Did Mrs Maisch put the Arizona shooter up to his act? Unless if that’s the case how can you accuse them of “assigning themselves” victim status? It seemed like they “earned” the “status” of gun victim the old fashioned way- being a citizen of the U.S..
Still assigning blame to an inanimate object…hoplophobe indeed.
@24: Their tragedies don’t trump my rights. And Appeals to Emotion stopped working on me after I got out of my 20s.
Excuse me: My last comment was directed at insipid at comment 28.
Really, there wasn’t a background check system in place prior to either of those shootings? Better check your impeccable sources before you make a bigger ass of yourself than you already have.
As for “Any mentally deranged person can buy what they want”, not true, and deep down inside that tiny brain, you know it. As for the gaps in that info being shared, and the lack of institutional space for “mentally deranged person(s)”, blame the ACLU and other liberals for that.
Oh, and Sippy? Wilson was right, Baracka lied, and he’s continued to lie since then.
Obama’s supposed anger is just theater for his money-base. This loss is a win-win for Obama. Vulnerable Senators are shielded by their No vote, and the House won’t face a vote at all. Gun grabs can come again in January of 2015 if Obama wants. After all, if Obama really cared, he’d’ve passed gun control back in 2009, when he had unassailable majorities of House and Senate, and two Justices in the SCOTUS retiring.
If Obama wants to be really angry, he’ll have to sort out how his Benghazi prisoners escaped, worked a deal and are talking to Congress. Wonder if AG Holder does a snatch of the escapees on the floor of the House, or leans on their family members, unexpectedly.
While I applaud McCain’s previous service and the sacrifices he made, he is now officially a sell out. The rest of them are just dicks.
And “Sippy”, how ’bout learning to use some fuggin’ punctuation when you type? I’ve never seen nonsensical run on sentences like that EVER.
@35, it’s what he does best. That, and raving like a lunatic.
@ #23: Are you absolutely certain that you want to go down this particular road? You are nothing if not a hypocrite. And always good for a laugh.
@36 – Yeah, I’m aware of its antics like everyone else is here. I just thought I’d try to throw him a bone since he’s in his little corner peeing all over himself and crying.
When Jovan Belcher shot his girlfriend and himself, no one called for black people to be transported in locked cases when they left their homes. That’s because it’s wrong to punish a whole group of people for the actions of an individual.
When Seung Hui Cho killed 32 people at Virginia Tech, there was not one person calling for a restrictions on the numbers of Koreans in one place. That’s because it’s wrong to punish a whole group of people for the actions of an individual.
But for some reason, punishing a whole group of gun owners who have been following the law just because of a few nutjobs is perfectly acceptable to you, insipid. So noted.
@insipid, As horrible as it is to lose a loved one violently, the wants of a few do not overrule the majority. I can’t stand it when a few try to force their views. Shame on the democrats for using the Sandy Hook tragedy and the Giffords shooting to advance their unpopular agenda. Instead of trying to balance the budget and rein in spending they are wasting time with immigration and gun control.
that hissy fit speech obummer gave was priceless!
ol bite me was grinding his dentures next to him from all the coke choom man gave him! lol
Wow. Spiffy can’t even get the ‘you lie’ thing right. That was shouted at Bodaprez’s first address to a joint session of both Houses of Congress, during his first term.
The person who did that was Joe Wilson; the date was September 6, 2009; the event was the presentation of the national health care legislation.
For Pete’s sake, Splinky, either learn how to compose sentences in a grammatical and literate manner, or stop writing! You’re showing yourself to be functionally illiterate.
They keep on bawling on and on about lobbyists and pressure, but I wonder how much money Bloomberg spent compared to the NRA.
Here Ill play the role of sippy…
I am angry for the emotional argument that I am only making because it is the liberal soup du jour. You are all -ists of what ever sort that fits my current agenda. I currently have a catalogue of everything that everyone has ever said and if you ever contradict yourself HYPOCRISY!!!! You know because if you ever hint at a possibility of hypocrisy you are bad. Oh and if you make fun of me flipping burgers or being this guy… http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/2/25509-101305-org085jpg-468x.jpg
you are conducting class warfare!
Sippy-poo, how about the truckloads of existing Gun Control Laws that were violated in each and every one of these mass shootings? It’s NOT about Gun Control, it’s about People Control, you and your ilk are simply dedicated to making everyone victims to criminals and the Government. Did you even make it to the fifth grade before you dropped out of school and started drawing welfare?
@40 How the is it an “unpopular agenda”? It had 54 out of 100 Senators for it, that’s more than half. Up until the Republicans started to make 60 the new threshold that would have passed. Furthermore virtually all polling shows HUGE majorities in favor of this bill. Yes, the few are trying to dictate to the many, but in this case the “few” are the NRA.
@44 so… Just out of curiosity, in what universe is calling woman “screeching harpies” not sexist? I can’t even call a kettle black anymore?
@27. Sippy, you supposedly pride yourself on a grasp of the facts, yet you post idiocy like this? “No there was no background check in place for the Arizona tech shooter”. I checked, and can find no university or technical school or community college in Arizona with the name Arizona Technical University, or what would commonly be called Arizona Tech. So, it would appear that, yet again, your post is bereft of facts.
Besides, wasn’t the plea of the left just a few days ago to just give everyone a vote on the bills? Well, they got their wish, they got their vote. It didn’t pass. That’s the way this whole thing is supposed to work.
@46. Nope, not “all polling shows huge majorities in favor” of this ill thought out, pandering POS legislation.
According to Gallup, in polling on April 15, 2013, only 4% of those polled thinks that guns/gun control is the most important problem facing the country today”. That’s down from 6% back in February. http://www.humanevents.com/2013/04/17/poll-americans-dont-think-gun-control-is-important/gallup_apr15/
@48- He was calling for a straight up or down vote. If he got it, it would of passed. They didn’t get the vote because the Republicans filibustered. It does NOT take 60 votes to pass a bill, it takes 51. It takes 60 votes to get closure. So no, we didn’t get the vote, if we did, it would of passed the senate.
I should of said Virginia tech…. Sorry, i got my mass shootings mixed up. There’s so damn many of them. And yes, he did buy the guns legally:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/19/gun.laws/