BOLO Phonies
The folks at Fake Warriors sent us some photos of suspected phonies who they want us to help identify;
The story that comes with this photo;
Not sure what you can do but I ran across your site and thought I would forward you what I sent to the Army CID here in Virginia. I ran across the guy in question on 9/11 2012 in San Diego. Please
read the below email for full details.Good Afternoon,
I am attaching a picture of an Army Soldier in dress uniform that I encountered in San Diego California on Sept 11, 2012. I began a conversation with this soldier when I noticed that he had a Silver Star as well as Bronze star on his stack of ribbons. He began to tell me that he was an Intel background with 6 combat deployments. I noticed 2 men in civilian attire taking a picture of this guy with their phones when 1 of them nodded for me to come over to speak with them. They then asked if I was in the military due to my “high reg” Marine haircut. When I told them that I was a Marine they both told me that they used to be in the Army and that the guy (in uniform) sitting beside me was suspicious. 1 of the gentlemen was an Army Ranger and noticed the Ranger tab on the guys uniform along with numerous other badges and tabs. He walked up and asked the guy in uniform what Ranger class he was and the Soldier simply stated that he was in the 1st class of 2000 and didn’t remember his class number. Something didn’t seem right with this guy so I identified myself and asked him to present his military ID to show that he was a Soldier. He flashed an Army ID but would not let me examine it. By this time the 2 (prior Army) other gentlemen were extremely upset and arguing with the Soldier. We left the bar with the soldier in uniform still sitting at the bar drinking his beer.I am not sure if this guy is legit or not but when I went onto a Silver Star registry I couldn’t find his name anywhere. What I am guessing is that this guy is active duty or a reservist and is possibly wearing awards and badges that he does not rate. I know that the picture I attached is blurry but I hope this helps identify this soldier and uncover the truth.
The second dude is clearly legit, because real soldiers wear their beret and ACUs while they’re with their girlfriend inside;
Name Brian Dawson. clearly in uniform on a pornographic cam website. He claims to be in Ft Huachuca and TX at same time. Impossible. and also claims to be a combat veteran but now works as a mercenary and traded his commission for E-4 pay. Unlikely. I found this disturbing and Inappropriate.
Does anyone recognize the unit patch?
Category: Phony soldiers
Jonn – the bearded tool is sporting the US Army Intel Center and School patch on his right shoulder.
http://www.vanguardmil.com/army-patch-military-intelligence-school-and-center-color-p-2430.html
http://www.vanguardmil.com/army-patch-military-intelligence-school-and-center-subdued-p-2431.html
As the famous ex-Soviet comic Yakov Smirnov put it: “Eye . . . don’ tink zo.” (smile)
Yeah, it doesn’t seem likely that anyone would be wearing a school patch as a combat patch.
Jonn: I suppose it’s theoretically possible if someone was sent in-theater on some form of special observation/fact-finding/doctrinal research mission. But yeah – those kinda things are pretty rare. And they probably won’t send too many E4s, either.
While deployed, I did see one guy sporting the USMA patch (!) as his unit of assignment; he was there because of such an assignment (yeah, I asked him about it). As I recall, he had another combat patch and wore that on his right shoulder instead.
Do we have a 1st name on the guy in the first photo? He’s sporting a CIB, so given a first name we might be able to ask someone to check AKO to see if it’s even possible he’s legit.
TRADOC combat patch. seems legit.
The patch is the US Army Intelligence Center and School,FT Huachuca but it’s on his right shoulder as a combat patch, which is bogus.
No McAllister in the Silver Star Database, but that database was done up by the Govt so who knows?
22 SSG’s on AKO.
#5, not bogus, re-read Hondo’s post at #3. We had a LTC from USMA at MMNSTC when I was there.
I doubt an SSG would be drinking in uniform in a bar. For what it’s worth, I checked AKO, and there’s about 20 SSG McAllisters, none of whom have Ranger School listed (although they could just not care), and most of whom are retired.
Given how proudly this guy is wearing all his stuff, though, I have a feeling that if he was on AKO, there’d be a picture of him and a list of all his quals.
1st guy is wearing recruiting command unit crest. You could always check with Southern California Recruiting Battalion in Mission Viejo. Personnel Administration (S-1)
949-367-1155/56
Al T.: not guaranteed to be bogus – but fairly rare. And probably not as a SPC.
Out of the 22 only one is a 11 series no 18 series and the 11 guy is at Drum so I doubt he would be in CA. There is one with an address in CA ?? Not enough info, if the picture was better a regimental crest would help ??
MSG Retired, He is wearing an intel regimental crest, I don’t see a CIB, I see a CAB. Could be legit.
Chaturbate?
What?
“and also claims to be a combat veteran but now works as a mercenary ”
If by mercenary you mean unemployed drunken loser who jerks off on camera, then I guess it could be true…..
I know it’s been determined Stolen Valor isn’t a crime, but I wish the SCOTUS had allowed general purpose ass kicking instead of just the truth of words to be the appropriate remedy.
12 Kevin,
That looks like a CIB above his sandwich board doesn’t it?
It’s hard to tell, it’s a little obscured and the picture’s kind of blurry. It looks like a CAB to me, though.
#12 Yup your right that is a CAB, not sure on the crest. I just wish it was a better picture. You need to lure them in for good close ups.
Kevin, David: if it’s a CAB, it’s getting a helluva blue reflection from something. But the picture isn’t the best, so perhaps you’re right.
He’s not wearing any reserve-specific awards (ARCAM, AFRM) and has multiple loops on his GCM. If he’s legit, he’s almost certainly in the regular Army or recently got out. Doesn’t rule out his being in the USAR or ARNG now, though.
Being non-IN/SF now is also not precluded. It’s possible he was initially IN, but re-upped for an intel MOS after an initial tour in the Infantry.
Okay so what I see is a Special Operations Command combat patch on his right pocket. A Combat Action Badge above his ribbons (to small for a CIB in my opinion, Military Intel regimental crest, US Army Recruiting Command Unit Crest, I would guess he is currently assigned to USAREC, could be Active duty or AGR.
OK … numb nutts.
Let me net this out for you.
Subject # 1: I will call him “Feather Hair of the McAllister Clan.”
Real Deal Evidence:
1. He remained cool and calm in the face of 3 enemy attckers in a bar on September 11th in San Diego, all alone, drinking, with no one to back him up. Yeah … all my friends who worked the WTC site and subsequaently got mobilized and deployed get dressed up on September 11th and go drinking alone! REAL DEAL!
Subject # 2: I will call him “GI Smokin’ Joe – Ace US Army Bottle and Can Re-cycler.”
2. Most combat veterans let off some steam by consorting with urban prostitues and spending quality time on the internet at child porn or fetish web sites. Additionally, as demonstrated in photo # 2, he is mission focussed and collects all his cans and bottles for proper disposal at a later date.
You guys by now should realize the REAL DEAL when you see it!
LOOK IT UP!
The “E6” in the first pic, that and the goobs that like to make up their service records as they run their mouths are perfect examples of the breed that I like to play “Bust the Bullshitter” on! The Beard Boy with the TRADOC Combat Patch? Oh, NOOOOOOOOO! (In my best “Mr. Bill” voice) I wouldn’t want to upset HIM, he looks SO badassed, I bet TRADOC sent him over there to further train our Soldiers while they were in firefights, thus his having THAT for one!
Yes, /exit sarc mode
SPC (W) Dawson, the World’s most badassed bearded beatoff!!
(W) = Wannabe!
Could be Sippy who previously reported here that he writes for a porn site. But, on second thought, there’s a woman in the pic so that let’s Sippy out. The first guy looks like an Ivan, not a McAllister. He’s even sporting the obligatory bad haircut.
If memory serves me correctly there are a handfull of people that have the “Follow Me” patch as a combat patch. We also sent some people to Astan from Atterbury for a SFAT mission who now have the First Army patch. So it is possible, however unlikely.
Proud Infidel: another commenter here wants you to contact them. Do I have your OK to send you their e-mail address?
WRT #1, the Thai jump wings, what appear to be master-blaster wings (hard to see, but low on his left pocket flap) and an MI MOS could mean he was in a SOT-A for 1st SFG. SOT-A’s are part of an SF Battalion’s MI detachment. They are voice intercept (98G) and morse code interecept (98H I think?) specialists and some of the slots are V-coded MOSs (Ranger Parachutist.) The MOS’s are V-coded because SOT-A’s have to deploy (most often with an ODA) into denied areas to conduct their intercept missions, so they have to have the same fieldcraft skills as the ODAs. DISCLAIMER: I’ve been out of USASOC for 10 years but that’s the way it was when I was in.
Whoops, sorry I forgot not everybody on TAH speaks “Army” so let me translate my acronyms:
MI Det = Military Intelligence Detachment, every SF battalion has one as part of the Support Company (which also contains the headquarters.)
MOS = Military Occupational Specialty: A person’s job in the military (Infantryman, Tanker, cook, medic, etc)
SOT-A: Support Operations Team – Alpha, MI intecept teams that are part of each SF Battalion. The SOT-A’s go into the field and gather intelligence which is then reported back to the SOT-B, normally located at the Forward Operating Base (FOB.)
ODA: Operational Detachment Alpha – the basic 12-man Special Forces team, used to be called an “A-Team” until that stupid TV series came out in the 80’s. 😉 When I was in, nobody called them A-teams, we called them ODAs.
While I am not a Ranger, I am a member of an association whose mission is to support the Ranger Instructors; I have been told frequently that while a Ranger may forget his mothers maiden name, he will never forget his class number. “first class of 2000 but don’t remember my class number” is a crock of feces.
Dude at the top looks like some sort of Vampire.
Turd.
Army Training units have those lozenge shaped patches. The USAMPS one is the torch with crossed pistols underneath.
martinjmpr – your recollection of 98G is dead on; I am not sure about 98H – used to be an 05H (aka Hog, as opposed to buddy-fucker 05G SigSec)
Looking super close at his combat patch, could it be Third Cav ‘Brave Rifles’?. The colors are right on the combat patch for the regimental crest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3d_Armored_Cavalry_Regiment
Referring to the first guy, just to clarify.
Here is what was going on in San Diego on September 11, 2012: San Diego Remembers 9/11 Tuesday, September 11, 2012 City News Service The San Diego Fire-Rescue Department and local colleges will hold events today to observe the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. At the downtown fire station at First Avenue and B Street, artist Mark John will display his charcoal drawing of three New York City firefighters raising the American flag at Ground Zero. He will present copies of the drawing to Mayor Jerry Sanders and fire Chief Javier Mainar. Events will also be held at UC San Diego, the University of San Diego, San Diego State University and Grossmont and Cuyamaca Colleges. — At 7:30 a.m. at UCSD, a wreath will be placed at a tree near the Warren Mall that commemorates the attacks. Another ceremony is set for noon. Billiekai Boughton, chairwoman of the UC San Diego Veterans Association, will place the wreath and will remain at the site until sunset; — at 8:45 a.m. at USD, members of the ROTC program will sound “Taps” at the 9/11 Memorial outside the Joan B. Kroc Institute for Peace and Justice at the time that each airliner crashed into the World Trade Center towers. Times will be moved back three hours for Pacific Time. At 10 a.m., a short prayer service will also be held; — at 11 a.m. at SDSU, ROTC cadets from the Army, Navy and Air Force will lower a flag outside Hepner Hall to half-staff. A moment of silence will be followed by the playing of “Taps” by a trumpeter from the music department. The ceremony will conclude with a short prayer; — at noon at Grossmont College, students will have a moment of reflection and then write their thoughts on cards that will be hung on a tree planted at last year’s ceremony; — at 12:30 p.m. at Cuyamaca College, a ceremony will feature members of area fire departments, the armed forces, and students from nearby Steele Canyon and Monte Vista high schools. Also today, radio stations XX1090 AM and 102.1… Read more »
The DUI, over the foreign jump wings, almost looks like the 502nd INF Regiment like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:502_Parachute_Infantry_Regiment_DUI.PNG
MEPS SAN DIEGO, CA
4181 Ruffin Rd
Suite B
San Diego, CA 92123
Phone: (858) 874-2400 ext. 261
Here is San Diego Central recruiting Station Face Booker Thingy Twit:
https://www.facebook.com/USArmySDcentral
The Fonz: don’t think so. I’m pretty sure it’s the MI Regimental Crest.
http://www.usamilitarymedals.com/us-army-military-intelligence-regimental-corps-crest-p-858.html
Hondo, thanks for the intel, your DUI image definitely matches!
@34, The regimental insignia is definitely MI.
Also, @31, the CSIB is SOCOM (Special Operations Command). It’s a spearhead and you can just make out the Airborne tab above it. I thought I was 100% sure, but I had to double check when you pointed that out. They look similar from that angle.
The DUI’s on the shoulder are either Recruiting Command or the 202nd MI Bn. Same basic colors and layout. I’m leaning towards the Recuriting Command though….
Difficult to tell, but does he have a numeral on his NCOPD ribbon?
Off topic;
Every time I hear or see someone mention DUI I remember my E-5 board. At the end the CSM asked if anyone had anymore questions for me. One 1SG asked me where I got my DUI at. My mind started racing and I was thinking “WTF why does this guy think I drink and drive”. Seeing my distress he leans over the table and says “Distinctive Unit Insignia”. Just goes to show you how nerves can make your brain take a vacation during promotion boards.
Green Thumb: seems to be something there (hint of brown/bronze color near/in the dark center stripe). Can’t make out what number it might be, though.
It also looks like he has a Kuwait Liberation Ribbon. You would think that someone with at least 22 years of service would be higher ranking than SSG or be QMP by now.
The more I look at this guy I think he is in or was in. The haircut is within regs “sorta”, the uniform appears to be within specs, man appears groomed, etc.
Oviously questions about his entitlement to certain awards remain. Aslo, it has been awhile since I have been in, but would not a SS, BSV, PH etc. make a SSG VERY competitive for E-7?
Non-seq, but when I enlisted I did “Hometown Recruiting” for two weeks after basic. We had this fucking turd recruiter who asked permission to sew a Ranger Tab on his uniform to garner more effect in the recruiting realm.
I was a young Private and did not know an better; oh how things change.
So if this turkey is a recruiter and he is “faking the funk”, it would not suprise me.
Poor pix, but to my calibrated airborne, Teutonic eye………
Right side top to bottom: CAB, Silver Star, Bronze Star, MSM, Joint Svc ARCOM, ARCOM, AAM, GCM, NDSM, Multi National Observers Medal, Kuwati Lib Medal (SA), GWOT, GWOT Svc, Humanitarian Svc Medal, AFRAM, NCOPD, ASR, OSR.
MSTR Para Badge, Air Assault, Pathfinder, Recruiter Badge.
Left side top to bottom: US Army Recruiting Command Unit Crest,
Mil Intel Regimental Unit Crest, Thai Wings, Joint Meritorious Unit Award, Army Meritorious Unit Commendation, Name Tag, USASOC CSIB.
I could be wrong…..
Janaburg: With two or three exceptions, I agree with you.
I think the ribbon you’re pegging as MSM is actually the PH. And I think the ribbon you’re pegging as the AFRAM is the MOVSM (they’re fairly similar, but stripe spacing looks wrong to be AFRM).
And I’m still not sure whether he’s wearing a CAB or CIB – shape might be closer to a CAB, but a CAB doesn’t have any blue in it.
Why don’t we have an ID on this guy yet?
Anyone from SD or the original complaintant have the name of the bar? That would make it very easy.
From a survail point of view, the bar may still have CCV. Older systems carried 30 to 60 days, newer systems can easily carry 6 months to a year in high definition.
Either way … I want a name by 1630 … because by then I am going to get a beer and I need something to talk about over my cold one!
Any questions?
For all you junior PI’s out there:
Go to –> http://www.dvidshub.net/ and enter –> mcallister
there are many hits, but I don’t understand Army talk!
I called the Southern California Recruiting Battalion S-1 (Personnel shop) a little while ago. They said they would check it out. I told them they have a guy that is in their area that is doing one of three things 1) Posing as a recruiter/soldier. 2) Wearing unauthorized awards, or 3) Being unfairly bashed on This Ain’t Hell.
Hondo-
CAB. 100% certain that is a CAB, not a CIB
@ 48 …. Nice! “Being unfairly bashed on TAH”.
I doubt # 3 … # 1 or # 2 is my bet!
There is absolutely no written, video or photographic record of this guy (McAllister) on any legit mil web server.
the training unit patch isnt that surprising to me, its everything else that screams bulls hit. i have a JRTC combat patch from 04, weirder things have happened.