Steve Snake Eyes Jordan still a fahkin idiot
a) It hasn’t been repealed.
b) The specific verbal fraudulent claims has ONLY been overturned in the Ninth Circuit and the Tenth is still on appeal.
c) Steve Jordan does not live in either the Ninth or Tenth Circuit.
d) In all circuits wearing of medals is still violative of the SVA.
e) The Supremes will take up the verbal side next year.
f) Jordan is not a recipient of the CIB
g) Steve Jordan wears the CIB.
h) If Jordan could read, which I doubt, he might want to check out US. v Perelman:
By contrast, here, Defendant effectively argues that the First Amendment protects the fraudster’s knowingly fraudulent activity: knowingly wearing a military medal without authorization and with intent to deceive. Whereas § 704(b) criminalizes pure speech, § 704(a) criminalizes certain specified
activities4 limited by a scienter requirement. Even if we assume that the intentionally deceptive wearing of a medal contains an expressive element—the false statement that “I received a medal”—the distinction between pure speech and conduct that has an expressive element separates this case from Alvarez. Indeed, in Alvarez, we carefully explained that, while false speech alone is protected by the First Amendment,
fraud and impersonation statutes are constitutional because they contain elements “that assure[ ] us [that] the law targets legitimately criminal conduct.” Id. at 1213. We have no trouble concluding that wearing a military medal with an intent to deceive is engaging in legitimately criminal conduct. Indeed,
Defendant did not preserve or bring to us for decision an asapplied challenge to his conviction, most likely in recognition that his own fraudulent activities do not deserve First Amendment protection. In conclusion, we reject Defendant’s argument that our recent decision in Alvarez dictates that § 704(a)
is unconstitutional.
CONCLUSION: When we find an FBI Agent in New Jersey, and a US Attorney with balls (I am looking at you Paul J. Fishman) then Steve Snake Eyes Jordan can do time in Federal Pound Him In The Ass Prison.
One slight Update:
Jordan’s only possible defense against the charge was that he didn’t use the uniform or his fake persona to get anything of value. That defense is easily mitigated thanks to Steve himself:
You will of course note that he uses his experience in the military (he has none) to bolster his private business. Thus, clearly, he is using his CIB to increase his image professionally, and thus is garnering a benefit from wearing the fraudulent uniform.
This case is slam dunk, we just need the FBI and US Attorney to prosecute.
UPDATE: Loach makes some good points in the comments about Snake Eyes, suggesting that the new Facebook posts are a clone. I agree they probably are, but this screen cap from his Vampire Profile suggests that it predates his outing. So either the time stamp thing is innaccurate, or someone premeditatedly decided to take this dude out.
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I sent an Email to a bro i was in Iraq with who is now a Secret Service guy about snakeyes imposting a agent. He’s NY Office but in the UK for the next couple of weeks, Hopefully he can nudge this towards the right authorities
You do realize that this asshole’s entire defense is going to revolve around the fact that he rode the short bus to school and had his underwear jacked up his ass-crack by bullies 24/7.
I was willing to dismiss this knucklehead as a silly, retarded midget who likes to play dress-up, shoot toy guns, and wear camo panties and matching bra. Now, I believe he needs to be charged. I bet dollars to donuts he used his lies to market himself in some way to someone. And that’s fraud if someone gave him anything of value because of his false claims, regardless of the SVA. The problem is that prosecutorial discretion thing. It really shouldn’t bother prosecutors outside of the 9th–they’ll have their conviction record–which is what most of them are about anyway. Besides, there may be outright fraud as well.
If you honestly think that anyone with this Justice Department is going to do anything about this, you need to get off the crack pipe.
This is not the “real” Steve Jordan you guys outed before. This is a troll who ripped Steve’s photos off the internet and is trolling websites for fun. Original Steve wasn’t that smart. This troll isn’t worth anyones time since he is just poking at people on the internet not posing as a soldier in real life. The active profiles I have seen that are currently active popped up after he was outed. Original Steve is hiding under a rock somewhere after the brilliant job you guys did. As with all trolls stop feeding and they go away.
Loach- Possibly true, but the new Steve Jordans don’t mitigate the other info. It remains the fact that he was wearing the CIB (astonishingly, I have someone who can testify to that) and he was using that image to bolster his now-defunct business.
Have the alphabet agencies softened their stance over outsiders claiming to be one of them? That used to be about the easiest conviction to get – and this clown has provided plenty of evidence for such a charge.
None of the stuff I saw before from Original Steve showed that he was making a profit off of anything. Any talk of what might have been a real business appears to be on the new fake Steve page. He was rightfully outed as a faking ass-clown but I’m not sure if he was doing anything but playing dress-up. He also had pictures of himself as cartoon characters and video game characters. I have no problem with him being exposed so he didn’t fool anyone. But as far as I can see Original Steve has left the internet and has been replaced by a troll or trolls getting enjoyment from pissing you off. They can not be prosecuted for someone elses picture.
Anyone near New Jersey might want to try his last place of employment:
Godfather Airsoft, Inc.
299 Route 22 East Green Brook, NJ 08812
Contact Info (877) 745-8370 Toll Free (732) 529-5284 Store Customer Service support@godfatherairsoft.com
Last I heard is he no longer works there because he could not verify his credentials….but of course those people might have been talking to Steve…you never know.
Loach, I believe that Vampire page predates his outting.
At a Facebook site called Facebook.com/StolenValor there is someone posing as him who is an administrator or something there. I was interested in helping any Stolen Valor search organization, but this one allows Steve Jordan, (or his imposter), to do provacative posting and commenting. I have other, better things to involve myself with than that. I will keep my effort focused here and at Chuck n Mary’s site.
TSO I will take your word for it about that site. I applauded his outing and was impressed with the speed and ruthlessness that it was done. I just don’t think the current troll deserves any attention.
Thanks Loach, and in case I wasn’t clear about it, thanks for bringing these points up, since they are obviously things to be considered. I honestly don’t know if the time/date stamps on that site can be manipulated or anything.
I am inclined to believe it is a troll, if only because i don’t see any visitors to this page from Facebook that originate in New Jersey so far.
Obviously if the real Steve Jordan wanted to put an end to it all, all he has to do is notify Facebook that this person is fraudulent, and send us an email. He hasn’t chosen to do that, so he’s either hopelessly inept at checking out his own shit on the internet, or he’s too busy with black ops in North Korea to let us know.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/StolenValor
I just joined this page but Frankly Opinionated I don’t think you’ll have a problem with it. Larry Bailey from stolenvalor.com is on there. No Snake Eyes.
TSO it is curious that we haven’t heard from Snake Eyes and Kim Jong Il winds up dead. Makes you think.
That is certainly my belief. I am guessing we will get pictures any day now of him patrolling in Pyongyang, which I suspect will look not altogether different than say south Jersey.
Also, I noted that Steve is a fan of Tim Kennedy, which I am fairly certain would drive Tim to the brink….Will bring it up next time I see him, which should be in March. (That incidentally is another reason i think it is a troll.)
OrdSoldier thats funny. I live in that general area and have passed that store many times. Never went in because I’m not interested in Airsoft. If I spend that much money I’d rather have the real thing.
Loach, they had an ad on the web where Stevie boy was seen at the 1 min mark.
There is no doubt in my mind that the current Steve Jordan page is being run by a troll. I personally think that it’s not only funny as hell, but that it’s also brilliant.
Whoever is running the page is doing a great job of keeping Steve Jordan on our collective minds & not leting him get away with what he is doing.
Think about it – if it weren’t for that page many would not even know about this douchebag. He could have and probably would have faded into obscurity if this page didn’t exist.
And THAT would really be something to be mad about, because then he could just keep on spreading his lies.
Instead, the troll has pissed all kinds of people off and, because of that, there are some very resourceful people who are making it their mission to find this asswipe & make sure that he gets what he deserves. New information is being found on this fucker almost daily, people are getting the authorities involved and they are starting to hone in on where he is.
Hell, there’s a petition to get him arrested for Stolen Valor that was started by a guy who got pissed off enough from the page to want to do something about him.
Steve Jordan dove for cover when he was exposed on Facebook, but he did so with no explanations or apologies – he just deleted the pictures on Facebook and locked his profile down.
One has only to go to his Fetlife.com page to see that he is still faking the funk – he runs a group on the site called “Army Family Support Group”…
Check it out for yourself (NSFW):
https://fetlife.com/users/88606
A guy on Facebook posted all kinds of screenshots of Steve’s Fetlife page on the troll site, but they got deleted – presumably so that they wouldn’t spoil the troll’s fun by confirming the page as fake.
If these pics don’t convince you, and REALLY piss you off, I don’t know what will.
You should start with this one: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=328366417191687&set=a.328215567206772.91877.100000549931707&type=3&theater
@4. If no prosecutor is pursuing prosecutions under the SVA, I guess those who have been convicted of violating it are what, self prosecuting? And I don’t smoke crack. I usually just fill my bathtub with it and soak in it for 10-15 minutes a day.
S.G. – There really isn’t much the Service would do about this. Unless he tried to get past security into a site or use fraudulent credentials there isn’t much to go on here. No AUSA is going to pick this up, at least not in NYC. He might get put on watch list, but I even doubt that.
Look at the poser to prosecution ratio, just in TSO’s competition this year. It’s pretty low. Even Soupy, on a federal installation, got a pass. Unless a little more light shines on this cockroach, he’s far enough under the radar to slip away.
Wow. the gay is strong in this one.
#23
Honestly I think Soupy got it through sheer audacity. Same reason he got so far here.
real simple: you don’t earn, then you don’t wear it. I’m a PADI advanced diver but damn sure don’t wear a combat divers badge cuz the Key West school was too much work.
I just a tip into the FBI regarding this character. Maybe they can finally handle it.
This guys has been on our radio for sometime. A bolo has gone out to all surounding department. I work for the sheriff department the next county over from Linden NJ. There just isn’t nothing that can be done right now.. according to feds he hasn’t used it to gain anything from it and we can’t tell if this is really him..with little help from Facebook.. anyone want to see bolo.. email me scubamax167@gmail.com.
You know I had a little chat with Zero yesterday, and I get what he was saying about feeling overwhelmed by the jacktards that get away with this and laugh about it.
The right thing for us to do is simple. Keep plugging. This is the law. Lets make sure its enforced.
BTW the brst thing to do is to get as many civilians on board.
@5 Steve Jordan is back, unless the pictures of him wearing the 172nd CAV patch VTARNG are old. Btw those pictures where pulled after i confronted him on his page about which unit he was in when it came to the 42ID who VTARNG use to fall under and the 172nd CAv in which the VTARNG is now.
@28. You might advise your federal contacts to re-read 18 USC 704 more slowly. The “anything of value” phrasing is inapplicable to the wearing of an “unauthorized ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or
medal, or any colorable imitation thereof….” If one merely wears one of those items and he is not authorized to do so, he is in violation of the code. There are other provisions going to the sale, purchase…etc. in exchange for anything of value.
Come at me bro
@#32: Give us an address then. I keep asking for that on your Facebook, but you have not posted one yet. You sound like a broken record with the “Come at me bro”, Troll
@31 I not saying this guy isn’t a fucknut.. but if your gonna go by that you might as well arrest every paintballer ….airsoft…and reenacter out there… We just don’t have the resources nor do the government. And there has been judge after judge dismissing certain indictments except were they blantanly made something off of it.. it has been also coming to light this might not even be him.. after he was outted the last time they are starting to think someone highjacked or took his profile and maybe just doing this to fuck with people. Facebook has been advised of it but they are giving resistance to it.its not too tough for someone to use a fake email and get a Facebook profile and continue on where this moron left off..I am actually in the process of sending the bolo to the person who started the petition..and dude I have to problem coming at you. I work for the sheriff department one county over from you middlesex. So anytime you want to buddy I can come on down to that Home Depot right there in the shopping center in Linden …you know where it is if this is really you.. but your gonna be taking a little trip after that..
@32 Jordan, you are scum. Cosplay? Really? you’re using the good deeds of your betters to get a bunch of play that you don’t deserve. If you want me to “Come At you” by all means give me your address. I feel no qualms about breaking your nose.
@34: its one thing to wear a uniform that is discontinued, and to wear it for the purposes of re-enactment. There is no way that anoyne would confuse someone dressed as a soldier in 2/75 ready for combat in WWII, for a current member of 2/75 ready for combat in Afghanistan.
likewise Airsoft teams would be smart not to use ACUs because they don’t blend in with diddly squat. They would be far better off using Tiger Strips or the old BDUs. No ranks or patches should be used. Nor should claims be made of military experience where none exist. Say simply “I am an AIRSOFT/PAINTBALL player” when asked about military experience say clearly that you have NOT had any. Simple.
Jordan violated all of that then goes on to claim Secret Service/US Marshal’s status. I’m sure he also claims to be an Eagle Scout, or a god damned reincarnated Bald Eagle. He is one of those idiots that NEEDS to go to jail for SVA. Him and that shitbag Standorf (spelling?)
Doc shoot me an email.. I understand you completely.. but these judges we deal with are fucking retarded
I’m totally legit and I’d advice you to take this off your website before I hit you with defamation of character lawsuits!
Before anyone gets too excited that Jordan commented here last night, the link came from Tacoma, Washington so it’s probably a poser-poser.
@37: Is there some method to get me your e-mail address that’s secure?
38: Really? Defamation? well let’s go for the definition of “defamation” Via Lawinfo.com
“Defamation is false and unprivileged spoken words or written publication, which exposes any living person to hatred, contempt, ridicule, or which causes him/her to be shunned or avoided, or which has a tendency to injure him/her in his/her trade or occupation.”
Now the key word here is False. Now at what point have we been wrong? You have violated SVA. You are unrepentant, and you are a giant faker that uses costumes for personal gain.
But, if you REALLY want to play that game, go ahead, only thing is Defamation of Character is something that it is on the Plaintiff to prove. Its also nearly impossible to pin down a blog, because we are using our 1st Amendment rights. We can call you whatever we wish, so long as we do not do any harm to you. Also we aren’t lying little weasels like you.
Lastly dipshit, I would seriously like to know who would represent you. How could you afford it? From all accounts you’re not exactly rolling in the Benjamins.
So in your own words “Come at me Bro”
Get’em Doc!!! This MFer was wearing my shoulder sleeve insignia as a combat patch for Snake Eyes, as if a fucking ninja master was VA/MISO….. Yeahhhhhhhh HOSER!!!!
Was supposed to say CA/MISO, stupid overtype mode!
I checked out his “personal blog” on Fbook. The guy is seriously missing more than a few screws. The profile picture is being an Eagle scout (that was just awarded his Eagle) that has more Merit Badges than I think there actually are. Whats even more disturbing is he has a link on this page to a site that promises him in full bore X ratedness.
I don’t care if Jordan is sick in the head, or what, but he really needs to see consequences for what he’s doing.
Doc yeah shoot me an email at this scubamax167@gmail.com it secure and through my department so if he does send me email hes fucking himself
@32 @38 Trolling troll is trolling.
As for finding an FBI Agent and a U.S. Attorney with some balls… good fucking luck.
dont you all relize its someone who hacked his account thats been getting on and typing all the shit talk and posting photoshopped pictures of him in a girlscout uniform?
@47 You really expect us to believe that? *snort*
Simple AKO Search, No such animal…Of course if you simply look at his ‘teefus’ any army dentist would have fixed the garbled mess decades ago.
ok so I called this jerkoff out and managed to get his phone number… XXXXXXXXXX let the trolling begin hahaha
(Edited by Hondo to remove phone number info. Jonn generally doesn’t allow that.)
You didn’t call me out, you tucked tail and ran like a girl. RLTW!