That phony Chippendale SEAL, Joseph Cryer
For those of you who missed it yesterday, we were visited by Joseph Cryer, the phony Chippendale SEAL, because everyone comes to TAH.
This is what I wrote about him earlier this year and his phony story;
In fact he was recruited from a video arcade and sent straight to BUD/S without the burden of boot camp. So there’s a lesson for all of you youngsters out there – spend more time in video arcades and the SEALs may pick you out of the the thousands of other glassy-eyed teens and send you straight to highly technical and physically demanding training based on nothing more than your Donkey Kong score.
Apparently, he was in the Gulf of Sidra in 1986 aboard the USS Caron during a time that the Caron had no SEALs onboard, according to witnesses. Then he secretly (how else) deployed into Libya and killed 77 Libyans in 102 sleepless hours. I know, how can you sleep when there are so many Libyans to kill and such little time. But those bloody hours gave him PTSD for which he gets 100% disability rating from the DVA.
So he called me yesterday to tell me that he’s not the enemy, which of course, he is. The he tried to tell me that the only thing he regrets about telling that story about Libya is that he revealed the story. Cryer claimed that the story is true. Sure he never went to BUD/S, never was a SEAL, but they chose him to help them kill scads of Libyans because of his mad Donkey Kong skillz.
Of course, like every other phony or their family members who come here, Cryer threatened us with a lawsuit. The folks at POW Network wrote last night that he has threatened them recently, too;
Mr. & Mrs. Shantag-How are you? Hope all is well in Missouri.
I just glanced on the internet and I viewed that you and your organization has not removed libel slanderous comments regarding myself. I am very disappointed honestly. Are you waiting for some sort of donation or something of that nature?
I guess the question of the day is: is the POW Network affiliated with the Federal Government in a law enforcement capacity? Or better yet do you represent the VA, Secretary of the Navy or the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO)?
I called the Disabled American Veterans (from your website) and they said they were not affiliated with POW Network in any capacity.
I will be in VA Beach/Norfolk/Chesapeake in mid January seeing friends from the Navy and I mentioned to Donald Shipley (by email) that I would be in town and that we will meet. I would hope this is not a hostile encounter but whatever happens – happens.
Always remember that BAD PRESS is better then NO PRESS. Your attacks on my character have no effect whatsoever because I don’t care. In all actuality it is very immature.
Where do we go from here? I know it will not happen but I would hope that you would discontinue the the slanderous attacks.
I am left with no other choice but to sue you personally and your organization for (internet) Libel Slander. If any of your cohorts make reference to attacking me on a physical level again then they will be included in the law suit as well.
Your confident, Don Shipley and his wife w/ Extreme SEAL Experience will be handled in a different law suit. What you guys are doing is illegal and I will show you in the Court of Law. Respectfully,Joseph B. Cryer
Yeah, I’m scared shitless. Cryer is a sociopath who thinks he can convince people that his tale is true, despite the countless impossibilities in his story. When I called bullshit on his story over the phone yesterday, he took on his secret squirrel persona and said he couldn’t talk about it. But he can put it on his Facebook page.
As Susan said yesterday, any lawyer who examines the facts would be a fool to take this case to court. And I doubt that Cryer has the wherewithal to pay a lawyer, anyway.
So Cryer threatened to use bodily harm to make me remove the post. I sent him a map to my house (about 2 hours from his) and his desire to force me to shut up dampened somewhat. So any of the rest of you who want to team up with Cryer and shut this blog down, I’m sure he’ll be receptive, and that’s fine with me. If I’m going to have to break out a can of whoopass, I might as well use it on two or three other people, too. I’m no real badass, I’m just tired of all of you fucks who threaten me and don’t follow through.
Category: Phony soldiers
Just so.
Put up or shut up time for the BUD bopper.
What Cryer needs to understand is that Jonn is a member in good standing of the HHC and like NATO, you attack one, you attack all. If he wants to threaten bodily harm, he has to rmember that Jonn has plenty of back-up, including several in the same AO.
The message sounds like more than Cryer want to tussle and break some furniture. I guess there’s more happening behind the scenes than can be learned reading the blog and its comments. I hope I’m wrong about that.
Frankly, going through those posts again, about the only true thing he said yesterday was his name, and I’m not totally convinced of that.
Hell, it took nearly 70 posts to demonstrate to him that nobody was buying the, “I’m a lawyer representing Cryer” bullshit.
240 posts in (and what’s the one-day record for a thread, Jonn?) and all dude can do is posture and bluff.
Newsflash to Joseph–you’re a shitty poker player. Wanna know how I know? You only bluff when your opponent thinks you have something. If you bluff and they know you’re full of shit, well…
You know I was ASA I did have a job that was “OH so secret” . To tell you the truth I was just a geek in Glasses but in my work I did work with and train with real operators. Enough so that I would never claim to be one but enough so to recognise those who can walk the walk. This guy Cryer apears to me to be so much hot air. After he comes to your house and you finish with him please be so kind as to give him a map to my house as well. I will even pay for his gas expenses so I can call him a fraud to his face.
Over the last several years I have met enough real Heroes at Walter Reed and Bethesda to know that I am not one and how to spot a poser like him. Hey all you wounded guys from 3rd group (among othere) want to come to my house and we can talk to this poser?
This ex ASAer is just an older slower fatter geek in glasses would be happy to disseminate upon his person the difference between real and frauds. I think I remember a few of the twist and tweaks that my SF Operator friends imparted to me with bruises when I was just a weed on the fringes of THEIR Rightful Glory…not his.
Hey I have my SF 180 where is his? Oh that is right the POW network already outed you….LOL
Sue me too You Poser.
Bring it on Mr. Cryer……
If enough of these fake troops are brought out in public, maybe other, soon to be fakers, will think twice.
probably wishful thinking. I did hold out hope that this morning would have had a yes or no answer from super seal.
Joe the Crybaby:
Again, as I stated in comment #218 on the “other” post on your dumbass: “I, Frankly Opinionated, say that any reference to being a member of the SEALs, by one Joseph Cryer is a blatent lie. He is not nor never was a SEAL. He is a phony.”
Bring it, Liar.
Sue for false statements, Joe? Hell you should sue yourself. You are the one making false statements about you.
Dumbass.
Morning everyone! Jonn I never received a map to your house? Also, I am not going to anyone’s house, that is ridiculous. I am much more thick skin then that. I do not have any ill will for anyone, I just believe in my case the negative energy is misdirected. Like I told you yesterday, I am not the enemy.
There was a map at the same place you found my phone number…and I was a punk until I gave you my address. And when I told you on the phone that it was only a two hour drive from OC, MD to Fort Ashby, WV, you said and I quote “Well, I’m not coming tonight” which normally means that you planned to make the trip some other time, just not last night. And if you don’t come here, how will I get an opportunity to pound on your pretty face?
Seems to me Joey Boy (emphasis on the BOY) that you got some folks riled up and around these parts that’s not a safe place to be walking. I’d rather tap dance through a minefield than get some of these old boys foaming at the mouth. Busting posers is a hobby with these guys and when they bust one you can better believe they have enough proof to back it up.
Pack up your games and take your ball and go home and hide under the kitchen table and pray that none of these guys becomes seriously pissed off at you and your pathetic threats. Now in the words of the once great comedian WC Fields “GO AWAY ASSHOLE YA BOTHER ME” (edited for military correctness)
This is hilarious, now he is pulling the hippie, negative energy crap. Wowwwww
thick skin then that.
Please, for someone who is supposed to be educated I beg you to use proper grammar. You did this all day yesterday and it’s driving me crazy…… …thick skin THAN that…” picky I know, but dayum! Then is an adverb, than is a conjunction…..
@12,
Old Tanker, your are giving us tankers a bad name being all smart like dat.
Hippie Joe that is funny..
@Old Tanker….I’m a knuckle dragging club wielding caveman so puhleeze excuse my grammatical incorrectness. 😛 LOL
Not the face Jonn, thats how he makes his $1 bills
@Lucky- EXACTLY how would I support my 20 kids?!
Joseph: As one of the civilians who post here, I don’t usually get underfoot in these discussions, but I’m going to here.
A lie is a house of cards. They always come down. I see a young man, who served honorably, building his life on a lie. Why lie? You have done more than most people in this country by simply offering to serve! Why ruin that by claiming to be something you are not?
As a former member of the military, you should know that there are very few men that are capable of being SEALs. It is not a dishonor to say that you weren’t a SEAL — but it is very much a dishonor to claim that title if you never earned it. Why would you trade your honorable service for a dishonorable lie??
If you are honest, right here and now on this blog, and be truthful about who and what you are and have done, this whole thing can go away. If you persist, the men who have earned the titles that you crave will ruin you.
These men aren’t your enemy, Joseph. Your only enemy is YOU.
Its called food stamps Cryer, I mean sheesh, I thought you were the Stripper
@Jonn- I have no intention of coming to your house. That kind of behavior is ridiculous. We are all Veterans at the end of the day.
Hahahahaha! I think you gave that status up there Joseph
@13 Bulldog
Not smart like dat…..smart like CDAT, I looked it up on my pewter! We were/are after all, COMPUTERIZED Dumb Ass Tankers!
@PintoNag- No matter what I say it is irrelevant to some individuals. The press contacted me and I apologized for my indiscretions. I agree with you, but in this case some people enjoy attacking other people, just human nature.
@lucky- You might want to contact the VA and let them know I gave up my Veteran status?!
You did when you started lying and making up bullshit stories, Dude, seriously how hard is a yes or no answer with your happy ass?
I am going earn some money today. Yesterday, i got five minutes worth of work done. Must drag myself away from the posts!!!!
Lol me too Bulldog, I have a trip to pack for and a workout to do…
Lucky; nhe will continue to avoid answering the yes or no question, because he is a fraud.
@28,
I guess I can prepare my oil lease packets and type here at the same time??????????
Ahh another day of reading funny comments. I love this site!
@Bulldog22/lucky- I agree same here as well. We can revisit this matter maybe next month. Contrary to what you might think I have enjoyed the dialogue. Take Care..
@Bulldog, maybe I can pack, do pushups and pullups, and type between sets…. @OT, hence my saying he pretty much gave up being in the same status category as the rest of us. We know what we did, we don’t make shit up to make our time in service sound more high speed. The difference between him and us, aside from spines and brass balls, is that we are proud of the time we had in service to our Country. I for one, aside from being the punching bag for Reserve and CA jokes, am proud to have made a difference in the history of two troubled countries, and to have assisted both as they prepared for their first free elections (EVER).
Notice he said “indiscretions”, not that he lied. I’m not letting up the pressure until he admits he’s lying. He still think he can leave the impression that he made that BS trip into Libya.
In fact, he told me yesterday that he didn’t kill all of those Libyans himself, he had help from some air support. WTF, Joe? How fucking stupid do you think we are?
I don’t blame you for not coming here. In West Virginia, the cops would probably get some licks in, too, once I told them why I’m beating you.
@32, go kickstart a 9mm in your mouth
Lucky,
Now drop and give us 50.
50? I usually knock out 70, and done Brother
Outstanding you are ready for Seal Training.
Hahahahaha, but I prefer the Army, we don’t have poop decks…. Or at least didn’t officially until yesterday morning……..
I have a buddy who is recruiting. He is not happy about the “change” in policy. Glad I dont have to deal with the new, kinder gentler, Army.
Same here and while she is new to recruiting, she is pissed as well
Ok so who from the press contacted him and what did he admit was an “indiscretion”? As this would be an admition of a party opponent it could be important.
Why do these losers always threaten a lawsuit to cover their embarrassment?
OK, my check valve has finally failed and I must add my $.02. Joe: (1) It seems to me you haven’t figured yet figured out the cause of the dogpile you currently find yourself at the bottom of. First, you made statements of false military service and actions. If you have benefited in any way, financially or otherwise, from these false claims then you are in violation of the federal Stolen Valor Act. At the very least you have offended and outraged all the Veterans (myself included) that visit sites such as this and POWnet. You have potentially misled innocent people into believing you did things during your time in the Navy that were patently false. For example, I could say that during my time aboard the USS George Washington as a nuke that I was recruited by members of SeAL Team 2 during a Gulf deployment in 2000 due to my knowledge of nuclear physics and thermodynamics. But the reality was that I was approached in the chow line by 3 members of SeAL Team 2 and asked if I would like to help in a couple of their training games to help them learn how to properly search a female target. It was frightening and fun, and in the end my reward was an invitation to sit with them at chow and meet a number of remarkable guys. So you see Joe, if I had made the first statement instead of the second, it would have been incorrect and misleading and therefore…WRONG. Secondly, instead of coming here and apologizing for making your false claims you started threatening lawsuits and generally acting like a fool. By not having any personal accountability for your original false statements and instead focusing your arguments on attacking the people who are rightfully angered by them you get what you get I’m sorry to say. Take your lumps. Which leads me to my second point… (2) For the love of all that’s holy, man, will you PLEASE stop using the phrase “libel slander”?!? Every time I read it I nearly break into hysteria! I… Read more »
Wait a minute. When I was a kid, I played Nintendo Duck Hunt on a projection TV. Shooting the gun into the mirror killed everything on the screen, regardless of coordinate. How come I didn’t get recruited for the SEALs?
I havent a friggen clue why anyone would fake their mil spec expierences. You did what you did. NOT every one can be the TIP of the spear. Hell the Tip of the spear cant be the tip of the spear unless he has (I could be incorrect on this #) 100 + people supporting him. I just dont get it! I guess I just dont do fake. I spent 8 years in SAC (yea I am long in the tooth), Our “heros” were the logisticians. We couldn’t do boo with out them. well I got off the track there but still, My kid is a Devil Doc and I have family members that have been in combat from WWII to Iraq, not a one of them ever brags about their exploits. If and when they talk about it its almost always about what some one else did or them just doing their job. Again I dont get being a fake.
Squidthoughts. I am a lawyer and have pointed out to this dope that he is misusing terms. However, dipshit understands that almost as well as he understands that I have nothing but contempt for his pathetic antics.
Libel and Slander are completely different, at least thats what they taught us in College during our intro to Criminal Law class for the BS in CJ…. Dude can’t even answer a simple question, I mean really?
Susan, am not a Lawyer, and pointed that out to him at the onset…
Joseph: If it is too much to come on the blog and come clean about your past, contact Jonn. He is very fair, and if you are honest with him, he will help you to put an end to the lies.
You can do that here, however. You will find that if you are honest here, the harsh critcism you have faced will turn into an honest assessment of your situation. These folks will help you, if you let them.
The press contacted me and I apologized for my indiscretions. I agree with you, but in this case some people enjoy attacking other people, just human nature.
You mean like you threatening to sue Shipley and POW Network for telling the truth about you?
And Susan, I think he might be referring to this:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/2011/05/phony-heroes-seek-honor-genuine-article
Military records show Cryer did serve as a seaman on the USS Caron while it supported the bombing of Libya, but the destroyer did not fire any weapons.
Cryer, who ran for Ocean City city council in 2006, admitted to The Washington Examiner in an interview late last week that he never was a Navy SEAL, and he made up the story about the 77 kills “as a coping mechanism,” because he was bitter at the Navy.
He said is relieved to have been exposed.
“Don Shipley pushed me hard enough to look in the mirror and say, ‘Who are you?’ “
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Apparently, either Shipley didn’t push hard enough, or Cryer didn’t like the answer he got and decided to keep playing his games.
Oh, and Cryer? Nice job, bro. Even hardcore shitbags like MSgt. Soup Sandwich and Ballduster McSoulpatch didn’t generate 300 posts in roughly 24 hours. In that regard, you are an elite.
An elite shitbag, but still elite. Be proud, nobody can take THAT away from you.