Steven Spainhouer, Dallas mall witness and Army vet

| May 15, 2023

Several of the news feeds have talked about Steven Spainhouer, a self-described Army vet who says he was near the Allen mall when his son called him saying there was an active shooter. He says he beat the cops to the mall (disputing their timeline) and says he attempted to aid victims but that their wounds were too horrific and nothing could be done.

“We can put red flag laws in place. We can limit high-capacity rounds. … We can stop putting some of these weapons like M4s and AR-15s in the hands of people that don’t need them,” Spainhouser (sic) said in an interview with CNN.

Spainhouser (sic) has recounted his experience responding to the scene. “The first girl I walked up to was crouched down covering her head in the bushes, so I felt for a pulse, pull her head to the side, and she had no face,” he said in one interview.  Rolling Stone

Not sure if anyone knows anything of this guy – says he is an Army vet yet seems to think an AR-15 is an issue weapon?

I have guns. I’ve been around guns. I love my guns, but those automatic rifles that are on the streets need to come off the streets.

Steven Spainhouer   NBC New York

He may be sincere…but he seems quick to claim being an Army vet – who seems to have learned very little when he was in.

Then there is his timeline. If you have read any of the material, the shooter was neutralized within about 4 minutes by an officer who was in the neighborhood on another call – fortuitous for the good guys.  But…then there is Spainhouer’s version:

Spainhouer said he arrived at the outlet mall “between 8 minutes and 16 minutes after [his son] Freddie’s” call,” based on the estimated arrival times given by the Allen Police Department.

“I didn’t see a police car or ambulance for another 5-6 minutes, even though I asked for help using a witness cell phone. That’s a little over 20 minutes since the shooting started, that victims lay injured or dying in front of H&M Store,” he said.

Spainhouer spoke to a number of media outlets, including CBS News Texas, about the aftermath of the shooting. He claimed in those interviews that he arrived in the parking lot of the outlet mall before first responders, and said he administered aid and performed CPR on people who had been shot. Spainhouer recounted the “carnage” he said that he saw, including a young girl who “had no face” and a young boy covered “head to toe” in blood, who, according to Spainhouer, was hiding beneath the body of his deceased mother. CBS News

But then there is the law enforcement timeline and statement:

According to the police department, “Mr. Spainhouer arrived between 3:44 and 3:52 p.m. and was not first on the scene, nor was he on the property while gunfire was occurring.” The department also said that Spainhouer “did not perform Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation (CPR) or administer first aid” and “did not move a deceased mother who was covering a live child.”

“Following the shooting at Allen Premium Outlets, Mr. Steven Spainhouer of McKinney, Texas gave multiple public accounts of his actions,” the statement read. “Inconsistencies between these public accounts and investigative facts led Allen Police Department to conduct a follow-up interview. During this interview, detectives determined that Mr. Spainhouer is not a credible incident witness.” CBS News

Doesn’t exactly lend any credibility to ANYTHING he claims or advocates, does it?

Category: Army, Crime, Exploitation, First Responders

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ANCRN

Well, people lie…

Roh-Dog

or, a lying, mentally ill narcissist attempts to disarm the people of evil “automatic weapons”.

The AR-47 fires a juiced-up 22 magnum, also a weapon of war, that is unnecessary for civilians, but if owned by The People our government feels confident threatening us with higher aircraft and nuclear weapons?

Ok guy.

Spainfucker is a paid-for, self-interested crisis actor and “a clear threat to our democracy*”.

*since the leftoids love this saying, I’m using it.

Roh-Dog

^FIGHTER aircraft.

Meme for clean-up on aisle 69, before these dangerous brown & black white nationalists com’n git me!

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USMC Steve

Let us welcome the newest version of that skinny twerp who gave the Hitler salute when he would give speeches about gun confiscation, and who also lied about being at a mass shooting.

Anonymous

Spankhoover

Roh-Dog

Spunkhoover?

Anonymous

Whatever floats his boat…

MustangCPT

So he’s an old David Hogg in a cowboy hat. Curious to see what he did in the Army.

Anonymous

Beyond self-abuse?

Green Thumb

Dudes.

11B-Mailclerk

His cadence calling sounded like

CAW! CAW! CAW!

Anonymous

Just have this suspicion:
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26Limabeans

“in the hands of people that don’t need them”

Yes, let’s have the government decide who has a need to exercise their constitutional rights and who doesn’t.
Or better yet, let ME decide for everyone else.
Oh, and I’m an Army vet so there’s that…..

5JC

I need an M4! Trying to get one has been a real.challenge though.

SFC D

If you come across one, get two. I’ll gladly pay you tuesday for an M-4 today.

5JC

I found one but it came with an M203 launcher, and that is just too heavy.

26Limabeans

Always wanted a M-79 thumper.
Not so much for the HE rnds but with lots of flares.
And those hand held pop flares were fun to shoot at each other.

KoB

Gimmie a Ma Deuce and a Pig. No time for half measures. May as well throw in a GAU-8…for reasons. That North Wall ain’t gonna shore up itself.

Spainey gots some ‘splainin’ to do.

Despicable POS!

SFC D

Hmmm… now that you mention it… wonder how a pig would look on a CJ3B. I gotta guy that could fabricate a rollbar mount.

M48DAT

Toppings slid off that pizza.

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Slid off?!
They ran away!

5JC

Let’s not let the truth get in the way of a good story.

ninja

F.Steven Spainhouer on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/SteveSpainhouer/status/1655930845050417154

“I trained for combat as an Army Officer. Luckily I didn’t have to go into combat while wearing the uniform. I never thought I’d see combat -like casualties in a mall in one of the safest cities in the US. I’m sad.”

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5JC

He didn’t see combat on the streets of America either, what a lying sack of shit. IDK if ever wore the uniform but has disgraced it now if he ever did.

Green Thumb

Probably some some combat in his asshole.

Anonymous

He’d have had us speaking German or Russian for job security last century.

Mason

If that’s him, then the years have not been kind.

poetrooper

But the all-you-can-eat buffets have been plentiful… 🙄 

JarHeadPat

Why does this hump have keys hanging from his collar, is that some sort of tactical thang??? He has gotta be a airsofter or who was that big fat bald dude yrs ago Dennis something.

JustALurkinAround

I can shed some light on the keys.

During trips into CTA and NTA, we’d (C 1/5, 1st PLT) remove our ALICE clips and use 550 instead, not have a partially full canteen, tape up all metal, and ALWAYS patrol with a set of keys hanging from our shit.

You know, tactics ‘n shit…

SFC D

He had a habit of losing keys so his 1SG made him wear them on his collar.

ninja

“Police And Witness Give Contradictory Accounts Of Response To Texas Mall Shooting”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-mall-shooting-massacre-steven-spainhouer-police-deny-witness-account-response/

“Authorities have publicly denied the eyewitness account of a man who earlier had said he recalled the Allen, Texas, mall shooting scene immediately following the massacre in great detail, claiming he administered aid to victims before police officers arrived.”

“Steven Spainhouer, a former U.S. Army officer, said he drove to Allen Premium Outlets after his son, sheltering in place inside the H&M store where he worked, called to tell him that he had heard gunfire on the property.”

RGR 4-78

I believe that Law Enforcement agencies can get a court ordered ping of his cell phone records that can give his location/time in context to this tragedy.

5JC

Videos all over the mall. That was what got him in trouble, none of it supports his story. Not that the media ever cares about the truth.

RGR 4-78

Security video dorked him square in the squeak hole. 🙄 

Anonymous

Caught it on his scanner and ran over there to look cool on TV news.

HT3

The new “my buddies died in my arms” equivalent is a wanting glory by standing on the dead bodies of unfortunate innocents. He’s a POS.

USMC Steve

It will be found that he is a socialist democrat, and probably a member of the Biden fan club as well. See him dancing in the blood, as all good socialist democrats do?

Shortly after that, all reporting on this dude will cease abruptly as his usefulness as a propaganda drone will be over.

5JC

No corrections will ever be published. Their work being done.

Anonymous

There I was, social media is hell…

ninja

His Certificate of Honorable Discharge and his DD214 WAS posted on Facebook…it looks as if it was taken down.

Will see if we can find an alternate source.

As shared, he stated he was a US Army Officer…(please see his Twitter Account picture we posted.)

QMC

I’m always heavily suspicious of anyone that runs to “multiple media” outlets for interviews after incidents like these.

And for good reasoning, considering all the gun grabbing verbiage he threw in there.

Hack Stone

David Hogg was not available for comment.

Anna Puma

Camera Hoigg probably has a poster of Spainhouer on his wall at Harvard.

SFC D

On his ceiling over his bed is much more likely.

UpNorth

And a 5 x 7 pic of Spainhouer sitting next to his extra large box of Kleenex.

5JC

Former Army Officer, police officer for a year, lies like a rug, where have I heard this before?

Roh-Dog

I wonder if Sprainedhoser here also fancies himself an Anqueefa medic.

I’d love to see some OERs…

ninja

He claimed he was a Commissioned Officer.

From his Facebook account:

“On this date 44 years ago, May 12, 1979, this group of young people received commissions as Officers in the Army. I was Blessed to be part of this group.”

“Front Row: Allex, Baity, Coxwell, Currier, Daniels, Hale,
2nd Row: Hall, Hayes, Inman, Janasov, Janczak, Krajeski,
3rd Row: McKane, Melton, Miller, Proctor, Reichert, Romines
4th Row: Rood, Shaver, Shiver, Smith, Spainhouer, Springman
5th Row: Stephens, Stone, Thornal, Troell, Watson, Weiner
6th Row: Wheeler, Wiers, Carol Williams, Williams, Wojcian, Young”

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5JC

That isn’t a commissioning photo obviously but MMI does have a two year commissioning program. They serve in Reserves and Guard while they complete their 4 year degree, which still doesn’t explain how he was in school at UT-Austin and a LEO in Florida at the same time.

5JC

He adjusted the year he was allegedly a LEO on his book of fake. Now he is just at Ft. Hood and Melbourne, FL at the same time. That is one helluva commute for drill. Also now UT Arlington, not Austin.

ninja

From his Facebook account.

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Anonymous

His most badass military picture… eclipsed by Bradely Manning here:

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JC

Then there was bergdahl

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A Proud Infidel®️™️

What was he, a Captain at Culver?

ninja

From his Facebook account:

“I saw suffering & tried to stop it, despair & tried to comfort, hopelessness and tried to give hope.”



Anonymous

Bare minimum, never-did-sh*t military resume…

Anonymous

True. At ol’ Hood, he and/or his battle buddies could’ve at least accidentally fired on a cow (it looked like a target at range) or ran into one on East/West Range Road in the dark on a crotchrocket (maneuver hazards there).

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Veritas Omnia Vincit

Sadly a lot of us who never did shit seem to need to tell tall tales of “derring didn’t” instead of simply being comfortable knowing we were willing to do whatever was asked, but beyond training nothing was ever asked….

For me I think the “never did shit” reality never satisfied the desire that I’d served in a useful capacity.

Instead of making up a bunch of bullshit though I ended up serving the children of my community by running a program as an unpaid volunteer for thirty years that served about 5,000 kids from ages 8-18 every spring, summer, and fall…a choice that has yielded hundreds of families that have remained in touch with me over the years and told me the value the program added to their family’s lives…

For me that has proved far more satisfying than any sort of make believe about my service ever could.

I don’t think I’ll ever understand the people whose lives are so empty they feel a need to pretend to be what they weren’t.

I didn’t post this to bust your ass about your comment I simply meant that people whose service was “bare minimum” have choices to make after their military service ends and too many make the wrong choice.

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Anonymous

I understand, no irk taken. It was like he got commissioned then did “three and flee” without even grousing about field time, stupid stuff and etc. at Ft Hood. It’s like he was Rear-D and never did “Army” before jettin’.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

You ain’t wrong bro….

Veritas Omnia Vincit

I did at least as part of my 11B winter training get to spend 3 winters at Fort Drum learning how not to freeze my balls off in lake effect snow….and the Pabst Blue Ribbon was $5 a case in 1980…I still have my NCO club card from Drum…dated 82 or 83 I think….near when I was getting out…

rgr769

Back in those days, reserve 2LT’s only served two years AD after commissioning.

26Limabeans

“I saw suffering & tried to stop it, despair & tried to comfort, hopelessness and tried to give hope.”

We bled inside each others wounds……..

Anonymous

Then he got to the front of the line at Burger King down at the PX during lunch.

5JC

The wheels are starting to fly off the apple cart. I think we are about to see more suffering, despair and hopelessness. You know if he had kept his mouth shut he could have brazened out the lies until he died.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

I’m a-gonna enjoy the show, popcorn or Nachos, anyone?

ninja
  • CEO & President at Risk & Safety Management 
  • Former Executive Corporate Healthcare Risk Mgr at LifeCare Hospitals
  • Former US Army Officer at US Army First Cavalry Division
  • Former Police Officer at Florida State University Police Department
  • Studied at Marion Military Institute
  • Studied at The University of Texas at Arlington
  • Lives in McKinney, Texas 
  • From Dallas, Texas 
5JC

Trying to figure out how he was at UT-Austin, Ft Hood and working as cop at Florida Tech all at same time.

SFC D

It’s just a jump to the left…

Anonymous

And then a step to the right… y’all know the rest.

Hack Stone

Hack Stone would like to thank Steven Spainhouer for stepping into the breach and when witnessing suffering, he exploited it; when seeing despair he made it worse; and seeing the hopeless he told them Bob Hope jokes. To recognize this act of valor, on behalf of the proud and humble woman owned business that seeks software to the Federal Government formerly located in Bethesda Maryland, Risk & Safety Management will receive, at no charge, a free year of Y2K software and a disc for AOL dial up network access. Bravo Zulu to Steven Spainhouer.

Anonymous

I miss those free AOL disks in the mail; they made good coasters.

SFC D

They were also excellent for keeping birds out of my tomatoes and peppers.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

I liked watching the light show while they were being microwaved!

ninja

MarineDad61 is gonna love this.

From Steven’s Facebook. The ballcap looks as if it belongs to Steven:

“I got recalled to active duty military service to help with Operation Desert Shield which morphed into Operation Desert Storm. While I was not needed in the theatre of operations, I leaned a deeper lesson in providing the Combat Division support needed for the operation to be successful.”

“The strangest request I handled was a command request for Legg’s panty hose. M1 battle tanks could not handle the fine desert sand in the Middle East, the air filtering systems got clogged.”

“But an enterprising trooper used his hair netting made from Legg’s panty hose to filter out the fine sand particles in the M1 battle tank air in-take filter.”

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5JC

If you weren’t in the theater of operations, than you weren’t in Desert Storm, don’t care how many hours you pulled as rear-d. None of those awards are yours (except the vaunted NDSM)

Anonymous

Fort Hood may suck just as bad, of course, but it still ain’t over there.

Hack Stone

But probably more dangerous.

Fyrfighter

I was in the reserves during that time, and my unit even got put on standby, but I would DAMN sure NEVER claim to be a vet of Desert Shield or Storm…

Don’t get the embellisher types… sad little people all.

ninja

From Steven’s Facebook:

“1983. I was hoping for an armored tank company command, but instead I was given a combat support company command, meaning I had the chore of recovering inoperable tanks from the battlefield and providing combat support operations for a battalion of armored tanks.”

“I hated cleaning up mistakes made by others, but it equipped me with life skills that I still use today. I learned an appreciation for helping others when they make mistakes and teaching others how to overcome mistakes. It equipped me well in my profession as a risk manager.”

“Said the the Lieutenant Colonel who assigned me,

“You have proven your skills as a trained armored tank unit commander, now you need to learn the skills of managing clean ups, so when the time comes for you to step back into Command, you’ll have an even deeper appreciation to do the right thing, when the time presents.”

“Sage advice for future leaders”

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5JC

And is this is why maintenance is always AFU. No actual Ordinance Officer is available and they send dimmest burning lamp down there to run the maintenance company. He has no idea what he is doing or how important his job is. Before you know it half the battalion is TU and the BN XO has to go down there and put his boot an ass.

Dennis - not chevy

The reason, as far as I can tell, since everyone call change the engine oil; everyone’s a mechanic. I’m reminded of the time the security cops’ vehicle manager got in my face asking me when was I going to fix his vehicles. I told him as soon as his troops stopped driving like Rosco P Coletrain; his vehicles wouldn’t spend so much time in maintenance.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

He looks like someone could stuff a feather up his ass and use him as a dart!

Former 3364
5JC

Because Democrats lie all the time?

ninja

His Shadowbox with comments taken from his Facebook:

“US Army, 1979-1993. Armor Officer.”

“First Cavalry Division.

• Platoon leader 1/7 Cav
• Battalion Support Platoon Leader 1/7 Cav
• Company Executive Officer- 1/8 Cav
• Company Commander 1/8 Cav
• Assistant Chief of Staff, G1- Commanding General, First Cavalry Division
• Rear Echelon Command Staff, First Cavalry Division Deployed, 199O Operation Desert Shield/ Desert Storm”

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5JC

Say whatever you will about his mall shooting story that is the most legit shadow box I have ever seen. I mean, why would anybody even want to fake something like that?

Roh-Dog

Right?!

Couldn’t afford Sta-Brite pieces, or is that a relatively new thing?

Not saying that display is ‘sad’ but it is. Worthy of a REMF tho!!

5JC

They had Sta-Brite back then.

Mason

Perhaps he’s put uniform worn items in there, which I can respect.

rgr769

That is what is in my shadow/been there done that box, except for one item: An SAS beret flash/DUI I received for completing the 22nd SAS’s CQB course.

Anonymous

So, they wouldn’t take his ass the Desert Storm? Could he not breathe and chew gum at the same time?

5JC

I’m pretty sure he faked getting recalled to active duty. But why in the name of Daniel Bernath would anyone fake being a reardick is going to be forever one of God’s little mysteries.

Green Thumb

The Phil Monkressity of it all….

SFC D

Worst job I ever had in 24 years of active duty was as rear D 1SG. Very nearly put me and the OPS NCO in rehab.

Twist

To be fair, not everyone who wanted to go was taken. My first active duty unit was the 4/27 INF Wolfhounds in 1994. According to the old hands when I got there they only took one Platoon from each Company out of the Battalion to do to DS and the ones that got left behind were still bitter in 1994.

ninja

This is what he wrote on his FB about his shadowbox…

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“It’s not the awards that matter, its the experience gained. Service to others is a Spainhouer family tradition.”

rgr769

What awards would those be? I only see a couple of marksmanship qualification badges.

ninja

From his Facebook:

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5JC

If anyone needs to get in touch with Risk and Safety Management, McKinney, Tx, run by a former Army Officer, Law Enforcement Officer, and mall shooting hero, the number is (214) 241-9929. Ask for Steven for a discount.

ninja

Facebook:

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ninja

From his FB reference the above picture:

“REMINISCING.
I started my active duty military service in the fabled US Seventh Cavalry and ended my active duty service in the 8th US Cavalry, earning my “spurs” and a lifetime membership in the First Cavalry Division Association.”

“I was proud to be recalled to active duty as an Army Individual Reservist for Operation Desert Shield in 1990, which became the operational buildup to Operation Desert Storm, an operation that freed Kuwait of Iraqi occupation.”

“I was and will be forever proud to have helped transition the US Army into a forces modification, with the introduction of the M1 Abrams Battle tank, a strong piece of military hardware that remains a mainstay of the combat fighting capabilities our military forces.”

“Old Cavalry soldiers don’t really retire, we just ride off into the sunset.”

ArmyATC

What’s he doing sporting “gold” spurs? Those are given for a combat deployment. In his own words he was never deployed to a combat theater. I got mine for OIF 2.

Roh-Dog

Bingo.

Maybe Double-D Fredd here is a fan of ‘pony play’ and earned them at the local kink club called The Stable.

In his case the extra D is for ‘douche’.

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Hack Stone

Great movie.

Hack Stone

Initial viewing had Hack Stone thinking that he made a plaque from disassembled lamp parts. Those “spurs” lol like lampshade holders.

26Limabeans

He threw it together on the spur of the moment.

SFC D

Looks like low frequency tuning forks. Is this guy a piano tuner? And remember, kids, you can tune a piano but you can’t tune a fish.

rgr769

They aren’t even Army issue spurs. They are standard English style civilian spurs.

Anonymous

Why are his “tracks” funny looking– if they’re trying to be old-fashioned, it’d be like the blues’ shoulder straps (Civil War-style).

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Anonymous

Better yet, he couldn’t just go to a surplus store? (Sterling silver, WW2… )
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AW1Ed

Even if real, military service is no guarantee. Right General?

5JC

Not one single hit in the lethal zone.

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Mason

He killed his credibility right in the ten ring with every shot.

rgr769

That clown “general” handles and shoots like a twelve year-old girl with no range time.

A Proud Infidel®™

More like whatshisface, the wuss liberal Reporter who claimed that shooting an AR15 gave him PT of the SD.

thatoneguy

Gersh Kuntzman.

JustALurkinAround

I can state this without reservation, if the Good Gen’rul Hertling was to go on a rampage with an AR-15, the safest place to be is in his line of sight.

ninja

From his Book of Face:

“The photos are from Bad Kreuznach, Germany in September 1982, about 100 miles from the border that separated communist East Germany from West Germany, during a no-notice deployment as part of Operation REFORGER 82.”

“We ended up in Bamberg, Germany just south of the Fulda Gap and about 25 miles from the East German border. That was as close as we’re were allowed to get without incurring the probability of East German troops thinking we were attacking and reacting.”

“The black and white photo was published in the Fort Hood Sentinel newspaper. I caught a little flak from my commanders for flying the Texas flag, but then the Corp Commander told me I was cleared to display the flag. He told me, “If they don’t already know you’re from Texas, they’ll soon figure it out.”

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ninja

From his Facebook:

“1983 photo- from West Germany, attached from the First Cavalry Division At Fort Hood, Texas to the 2nd Armor (Patton’s Own) Armored Division for Operation REFORGER ,as a Combat Armor trained 1st Lieutenant, back before the Berlin Wall fell and when communism gripped Eastern Europe.”

“My fourteen years of military service was completed in 1993 as a Captain promotable, after participation in Operation Desert Shield & Desert Storm, which culminated in Saddam Hussein’s removal from Kuwait.”

“Freedom isn’t always easy or fun, it requires a dedication to duty, service, honor and a healthy dose of patriotism.”

“To my fellow Vets, thank you for your service to our noble cause, to protect democracy, world-wide.”

SFC D

“My fourteen years of military service was completed in 1993 as a Captain promotable..”

It’s a little out of my lane, but does that timeline sound right? Sounds like a very long time in service for a promotable CPT.

5JC

Not necessarily if he was a reservist. Promotions to field grade are tight.

But it would make zero sense to leave the service with 14 years and being promoteable. Six more years with O-4 pay and he is eligible for retirement, especially with all his claimed active duty time. Sounds awfully untruthy.

rgr769

That explains why he didn’t get a reserve retirement. He undoubtedly ran into “up or out.” He likely spent a number of years in the IRR.

ninja

From His Face of Book:

“FLASHBACK: December 7, 1981.
Forty one years ago, I arrived to my first l active duty assignment in the US Army as a senior 2nd Lieutenant, and a Combat Armor-branched Officer, after serving two years in the Texas Army National Guard.”

“I didn’t even get a chance to get a regulation haircut before I was dispatched to my tank platoon for field training exercises.”

“I had nine tanks assigned to me. Only one could actually get out of the motor pool. I asked why I had nine tanks, when a normal tank platoon had five. I soon found out that there was only one other Officer in the tank company and that the tank platoons were split up between two Lieutenants.”

“I asked the First Sergeant when I could talk to the Company Commander.”

“When we get one,” I was told. I was not prepared to command an active duty tank company as a 2nd Lieutenant.”

“I headed up to the Battalion Headquarters and met the Adjutant. I asked to speak to the Battalion Commander.”

“We don’t have one. He got relieved two weeks ago.”

“The Battalion Executive Officer, an affable guy with a gold oak leaf insignia told me, “Take a deep breath, we’re the 1st Batalion, Seventh US Cavalry, we’ve been through worse.”

I learned later on about some guy named LTC George A. Custer. He needed a haircut as well. I eventually got my haircut. No use in taking on unnecessary risks.”

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Animal

Senior 2nd Lieutenant? That’s funny.

AW1Ed

Like the Navy’s Leading Airman? He’s the shop senior E-3, which in itself is of concern. Couldn’t make PO-3, or just came back from there?

Anonymous

2LT(P)… or not yet even?

Hack Stone

Does that mean that everyone commissioned with you were promoted a long time before you?

rgr769

I don’t know about the early 80’s, but in the 70’s promotion to 1LT was automatic at one year TIG/TIS.

Hack Stone

Q:What do you call a Senior 2nd Lieutenant?

A: 2nd Lieutenant.

Thank you. Thank you. Be sure to tip the self checkout machine, it has a bunch of pocket calculators at home to support.

fm2176

Sounds like one of the AS3s I served with on BDE staff in 2012. He was a YG05 CPT who seemed to try to overcompensate through sheer number of hours “worked”, often keeping me in the office a few hours after everyone else had left. I looked him up in ATRRS and found he’d attempted Ranger School twice (no knocks there, I never even attempted) and that he didn’t complete MCCC until 2010, some five years into his commission.

One day, while lecturing me on something I had to get from the BN S3s (all CPTs), he let me know that he had my back as the “senior Captain in the Brigade.” Not really something to brag about. The only thing worst is being an NCO one day and the most junior E1 or E4 in the unit the next.

I kept that in my back pocket and would occasionally joke about being the “senior SSG.” I had more time in grade than some of the Drill Sergeant Leaders had in service by the time I went through the Academy and had served in assignments a lot of 1SGs never did, like BDE Victim Advocate.

I will say that having a lot of TIG isn’t always bad, since it can get to a point where you’re recognized as being extremely capable and proficient despite the lack of promotions. For non-careerists, SPC, SGT, and even CPT (well, in some cases) is respectable. SSG and above and MAJ and above all see some good leaders who just don’t make rank. Often, their seniors with less TIS respect and/or fear them. I was almost disappointed when I finally pinned SFC after almost 11 years as a SSG. With that said, some ranks have no bragging rights. If 99% of your rank is automatically promoted, there’s no seniority. You’re either next in the chute for 1LT, PFC, CW2, whatever, or you screwed up and there’s a reason your former peer group outranks you.

fm2176

Oh, as for that AS3, he overlooked Land/Ammo and Schools for the Brigade and eventually took over a line company (he’d been an HHC commander prior to getting to Stewart, but no Infantry Company command). He requested a bunch of training land, decided to cancel training, and instead of going through proper channels and times lines, or at least sending a couple of NCOs out to “occupy” the training area, he tried calling in a favor to the E5 who worked Land/Ammo when he was marked as a “no-show”. My understanding is that this and other events got him relieved and he left the Army soon after.

SFC D

If you’re in the S3, never ever ever leave range control or the ASP hanging.

SFC D

Absolutely concur with a lot of TIG not necessarily being a bad thing. Except in my case it was 13 years as a SGT. My MOS was full of semi-worthless SSG’s that couldn’t get promoted and wouldn’t get out. SFC was quick and easy once the deadwood SSG’s got out of the way. I was working way above my paygrade for most of those 13 years.

Fm2176

We had an issue with NCOs getting promoted and not completing NCOES, instead just sitting there collecting pay and taking up a slot. The BSB had a SSG who had pinned E6 a year before I made E5 and still hadn’t completed BNCOC eight years later.

Anna Puma

Photo caption : pencil-necked dweeb trying to look studly.

USMCMSgt (Ret)

Saying “Senior Second Lieutenant” is like saying “Senior Lance Corporal”.

Fuckwit.

JustALurkinAround

Goddamn I’d love to see this fuck wearing a pith helmet back then. He’d look like a fucking nail.

ninja

From his FB:

“All my military service time was as an armored cavalry officer. I was either commanding a line unit or serving in a combat support role as an executive officer, or on the Chief of Staff for a Commanding General. I earned my Calvary spurs”

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Roh-Dog

Price check on “Calvary”…

Cuz iff’n so, that big funny.

5JC

He was killing commies for Christ.

Anonymous

Cheap after-market hat (not Stetson, but a “stetson”), enlisted hat cord/acorns and some generic pin that don’t go on a Cav stetson… didn’t his Cav buddies give him sh*t about this (oh, wait, he doesn’t have any).

SFC D

Looks like some hat you’d get at Disneyland in the 60’s.

Anonymous

F Troop:
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ArmyATC

Anyone who served in a 1CD unit would know how dicked up that black hat is. Enlisted braid for a supposed officer? And what is that stupid medallion under the crossed sabers?

A Proud Infidel®™

If he’s truly the “Billy-Bob Badass” Cav Troop he claims to be, then when did he ever earn his Silver Spurs? I earned BOTH Gold and Silver.

ninja

From his facebook:

“First Cav, US Army. Armor Officer. 1979-1994.”

“Proud to be a Desert Shield / Desert Storm
Vet – combat armored cavalry trained..salute to my fellow Vets!”

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Anonymous

Aw, jeez… he couldn’t even see the movie and get it right (or, at least, like everbody else did at the time):

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Anonymous

Yes (full disclosure) I served in an Air Cav unit… if you didn’t see Apocalypse Now and know all the cool lines, you were wasting your time. (Robert Duvall’s hat isn’t right during the later “I love the smell of napalm in the morning!” scene with just the big crossed sabers and no rank, but it looked cooler for the audience.)

5JC

He is rapidly scrubbing his posts, probably looking here to see where he has lied, It’s tough to keep track, I imagine. It now says..

Steven Spainhouer“First Cav, US Army. Armor Officer. 1979-1994.”

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10226542686126299&set=pb.1020266680.-2207520000.&type=3

Also disabled the video of his service 1979-1994.

What form shall the sock puppet appear as?

ninja

MarineDad61 is gonna love this one..

“Proud to be a Desert Shield / Desert Storm
Vet – combat armored cavalry trained”

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5JC

Ironically he covered up the only medal he was eligible for in that picture. I can see why his DD-214 went into the Fake Book Shredder.

ninja

From his book of face:

“Twice in my military career, I encountered security breaches and both times, the Army Officers I knew, who were involved were transferred and re-assigned new jobs.”

“The first time involved a 2nd Lieutenant with “loose lips” who was telling folks he was working on a classified project at Fort Hood, Texas, which involved the field testing of the classified new Army main battle tank. He lived next door to me and in one day, he and his family disappeared from the Army post. We only learned of his sudden departure after it occurred and we warned to not discuss the program’s sudden loss.”

“Poof! Just gone and never heard from again.”

“The second incident occurred when I discovered Top Secret material in a desk drawer in the G3 Operations Offices for the First Cavalry Division while serving as the on-duty Officer of the Day. That caused a serious problem for a few folks and promoted a huge investigation into the handling of classified materials. You just don’t mix classified materials in with other stuff and stick in a desk drawer. To make matters worse, the material wasn’t even properly signed out for accounting purposes. The G3, who was a full Bird Colonel was up for a promo to General. He retired as a Colonel within three months. A couple of lower level staff officers got letters and were reassigned.”

“The handing of classified materials is a very serious matter.”

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Anna Puma

‘promoted’ ??

You mean “Prompted” right?

5JC

Why in the Fuck would he be going through desks in the Div G3 office in the first place? If I were the G3 I would have pounded him into a jelly like pulp and then had someone scoop him into the nearest dumpster.

I always wonder what the thought processes of “that guy” are. Now we know.

Green Thumb

He was looking for his Officer’s Manual.

Roh-Dog

Or some snacks…. because he thiccc!

Comment number 200 btws.

As 5JC asked, sock puppet when?

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SFC D

Bullshit.

Anonymous

Because he was that 2nd Lieutenant, perhaps?

JC

Ninja,

His story about the 2LT and the M1 is more than likely BS.

I’m pretty sure the Kremlin already knew more about the M1 by that time than that poor 2LT did.

ninja

From his book of face:

“44 years ago.
1979 Pre-Game Show, the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans. Marion Military Institute’s Precision Drill team. I’m behind Mike Atwell, first Squad Leader, left. Alabama v Penn State.”

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5JC

I would have worn that goofy uniform to be at that game. Back when the second greatest college football coach ever was putting everyone on blast.

Anna Puma

You would think at his age he would know full well that fame is fleeting.

But here he is whoring himself out to CNN and the like. Doesn’t say complimentary things about the quality of his character.

ninja
ninja

Interesting…

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5JC

The blind wife story I totally buy. But combat where? He already said he didn’t deploy for Dessert Shower and I don’t recall armor going anywhere else in the 80s so… where?

Also he was a certified LEO? I’m not buying that either.

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Mason

He throws around “combat” a lot with the caveat it was “combat trained” in the hopes you don’t notice the “trained” part. Every vet has been trained for combat. You ain’t special in that regard.

rgr769

Wasn’t everyone who completed basic or ROTC summer camp “combat trained?”

UpNorth

It appears he was still a probationary LEO when he was told to bring his books, badge and gun to the deputy chief’s office, where he was told that his services were no longer needed or desired.
So, yeah, that likely explains his career of a “short time” of service as an LEO.

Anna Puma

Baron von Munchausen had a more believable story.

The tell of course is, Democrat.

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SFC D

The good Baron was at least entertaining.

MustangCPT

Yep. And this fine fellow at least told amusing stories:

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SFC D

Quite.

rgr769

The D-rat designation explains his attitude and comments about guns.

RGR 4-78

Dessert Storm”
Chow Hall assault commando.

Anna Puma

Snack-rando?

ninja

We found a portion of his DD214 via the world wide web.

When we went to the source, it was taken down.

https://www.facebook.com/CollinCountyTXDemocratStevenSpainhouer/

This DD214 annotates he was discharged as a ILT/O2.

Possible rank when he got off of Active Duty?

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5JC

He is covering his tracks. Somebody is a big fat liar. The more he hides the 214, the more I want to see it.

That would be his rank when he was discharged from active duty. Officers don’t re-enlist so they don’t get DD214s while serving. If he went into the reserves he might have made captain there. If he was later called up, he would have retained the captain rank during a call up.

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A Proud Infidel®™

The story goes that any Officer leaving the US Army as any less than an 03 had to have been a dud, dirtbag, loser or any combo thereof, many Officers I’ve known said that making it to 1LT was a participation trophy for showing up to work.

5JC

Promotion rate to 1LT is 99%. I’ve seen a few miss. Basically you have to put your nuts in a vice and turn the handle many times. One guy was reading on a third grade level. Another one was sleeping with an E-4’s wife who was in his platoon. And I saw two piss hot. All of them were ejected out of the army.

Promotion to CPT is about 90%. Again, mostly stepping on the dick, but occasionally a really really low performer.

Promotion to major varies from 70 to 80% depending on the branch. Sometimes it will go a little higher, sometimes a little lower depending on needs of the army. Don’t have a master’s degree, consistently low performance, stepping on the dick, that will keep you out of major.

Promotion to lieutenant Colonel is in the 50 to 70% range depending on the branch. It’s all of the above, But you still see a lot of good guys not make it, But now you also see the players making it, not really high performers but they know what to do or who to know.

Promotion to Colonel is simply based upon how you did as a battalion commander. The odds of getting promoted without a battalion command are less than 10%. Although if you have a battalion command “like” assignment that could count.

General officer promotions are straight politics. They don’t really follow the rules of other promotions. They are normally looking for the person who is the safest and most responsible. If that sounds crazy, go look at the general officers are.

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rgr769

He would have been a 1LT for several years in the IRR, then he would have likely been promoted. My wife, a 1LT nurse, was promoted to O-3 when she was in the IRR. It was automatic. Although, she had two years in the reserve components in addition to her two years AD.

ninja

From his FB:

“Lifetime membership awarded to me when I left the US Army’s First Cavalry Division in 1983, after serving an an armored platoon leader, a combat support platoon leader, a company executive officer, a company commander, and as an assistant G1 Personnel Assignment’s Officer for the Commanding General . . .”

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5JC

I totally missed that earlier. So he is saying he got called up for Desert Storm, they sent him back to his old unit? And then they left him behind as rear D? And then all he got for his troubles was an NDSM?

Nunt-nunh.

ArmyATC

Awarded my ass. Anyone who serves in a 1CD unit is offered – offered not awarded – a lifetime membership. You can join or not.

SFC D

Almost as cool as the 11th Signal Brigade Desert Rat Association. I know there’s at least one other member in these hallowed TAH halls.

rgr769

It looks like this joker served his two years of active duty starting in July, 1981 and then left AD for the completion of his service obligation in the IRR, except for his recall to AD to work for several months as the REMFiest of REMFs in the 1st Cav’s stay behind detachment.

5JC

I’m doubting that the call up is even real.

ninja

He posted this on his FB:

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ninja

He posted this on his book of face:

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Anonymous

Lars or is this his father?

5JC

Kissing cousins.

Anna Puma

yuck

5JC

The lies are evolving. Before too long the kid will be saving him, brave little tike.

F. Steven Spainhouer
@SteveSpainhouer

Since making my posting, I have learned the kid I tended to was a six year old. I assume he was under his mother, but don’t know for sure if it was his mother. I took him to a safe place. He crawled out, on his own and when he stood up, I led him to a safe place.

ninja

Check Out What Happened To Him In 1981:

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JustALurkinAround

I truly believe you are a ninja.

Great work!

ninja

Some MORE information as to why he was indicted in 1981 reference voting…

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Thank You, JustALurkinAround…It’s Teamwork!

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ninja

Article is dated 18 February 1981 from the Odessa American (Texas).

5JC

Silly Democrats, always stealing elections.

rgr769

They been doin it for about 160 years.

Anonymous

D’oh!

ninja

Well, this is weird.

In this 2016 article, at the beginning of the article, he is identified as a Navy Veteran:

“Steve Spainhouer takes photos for business and pleasure.”

“He’s used his photography skills as a professional risk manager for insurance companies, and the Navy veteran has spent time as a first responder.”

https://starlocalmedia.com/mckinneycouriergazette/news/dark-room-democrat-mckinney-photographer-chronicles-city-day-by-day/article_47a60410-cbd6-11e6-96ce-8b5e5ea5254e.html

Then further down the article, the reporter wrote his Father spent time in the Navy..

Confusing!

“My dad was a professional photographer all of his life, first in the Navy and then for the Dallas Fire Department.”

ninja

His Dad’s Obit:

https://obits.dallasnews.com/us/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/name/freddie-spainhouer-obituary?id=10754941

“Phil’s career in the Navy spanned from 1941-1963, with a short time after WWII to attend Southern Methodist University in 1946-7. Phil retired from the Navy in November 1963, E9 Master Chief Petty Officer (MCPO/PTCM) Photographic Intelligence. Phil retired from the Dallas Fire Dept., Chief Photographer, 1973-1988.”

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5JC

Dad would weep if he had seen what his son has become.

Mason

Trailblazer as one of the first Navy E-9s.

Mason

Here’s the notice from when Spainhouer was part of the fourth group to be made “Super Chiefs” in 1960.

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Mason

Digging deeper, within the Photographic Intelligenceman rating, one man was promoted to Master Chief (PTCM) and one to Senior Chief (PTCS) in the inaugural group in 1958. One more PTCS was made in 1959. Two more PTCSs made the rank in Dec ’59. One of the previously promoted PTCSs was promoted to PTCM in 1960. Spainhouer was promoted with two of his peers to PTCS in ’60.

5JC

To get in so early before the serious politicking started, likely he was top of his game.

MustangCPT

Photographer? Navy? Asshole? Fabulist?

Oh no! He’s come back from the grave…

Army-Air Force Guy

Very Bernathian.

5JC

But wait…. there is more…. All of this links back to the JFK Assassination. I was prepared to give props to dad, but since he failed to warn the president, this falls firmly on his shoulders.

Chana Gail Willis gave a revealing yet moving profile of her father, Freddie Philmon Spainhouer. Willis’ father was Naval intel and CIA. He confided to his daughter that he had known about the shooting before, during, and after. Spainhouer went so far as to even name “Wallace” as a shooter, a reference attendees understood as LBJ associate Mac Wallace. She believes that the photographic figure known to researchers as “Trenchcoat Man” could be her father.

https://midnightwriternews.com/jfk-assassination-conference-2016-day-01/

And this makes no sense because he and Kennedy were pals…

https://www.woodcountynow.com/news/wood-county-resident-to-give-memorial-eulogy-at-pres-kennedy-remembrance-ceremony

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Mason

He and his sister both like to tell lies to get attention. Weird.

JustALurkinAround

My current fave. I guess the guy was shooting tracer rounds at the mall.

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ArmyATC

Looks more like a Hornady ballistic tip round.

Forest Bondurant

Yes, a tracer round. Hunters use them to cook their deer with.

26Limabeans

WTF is a “high velocity impact round” ?

SFC D

It comes from a 1000 round magazine clip

ArmyATC

But does it have a shoulder thing that goes up and fires full semi-auto?

Roh-Dog

Worse, chainsaw bayonet and a barrel shroud, ‘Heavy as 10 boxes you might be moving‘, or something.

5JC

So long as I can use it to shoot at noises in the dark from my back porch I’m good.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

Or a 30-clip magazine!

RGR 4-78

2000+fps 2.5lbs sledgehammer.

Roh-Dog

Don’t know about anyone else but I’m glad it wasn’t one of those scary military issue M855 ball that can pierce titanium armor plate, curve around obstacles, and warp space/time at will!

Sure glad 0Bummer totally legally tried to ban them.

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Forest Bondurant
Anonymous

So, the “white supremacist” threw these things at his victims?

Army-Air Force Guy

The shell case went down the barrel still attached to the bullet.

ninja

You Be The Judge…

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ninja

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Anonymous

He’s not that cool. Neither one of ’em.

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5JC

Soooooo…. how did you get that white stain on your hat? Just wondering where that gleam in your eye is going.

rgr769

So, this guy is a Beto fan-boi. He must be a full-on Prog.

ninja

A better picture of his Discharge certificate (3 September 1993).

We are curious about Colonel Timothy W. Cannon.

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ninja

We found a Colonel Timothy Wayne Cannon who was born in January 1950 who had residency in Florida and the DC area.

In 2013, a 63 year old Timothy W. Cannon, “the former director of human resources at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), pleaded guilty today to a charge of conflict of interest for negotiating employment with a polling and consulting services company that had a multimillion-dollar contract with FEMA, supervised by Cannon.”

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/former-fema-executive-pleads-guilty-federal-conflict-interest-charge-defendant-sought-job

We found this. Check out his picture.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/colonel-t-w-cannon-ret-4a538496

The picture in the linkedin matches the picture at this site:

https://nara.getarchive.net/media/washington-dc-july-23-2007-timothy-cannon-in-the-fema-studio-mr-cannon-joined-1fe83a

ninja

It IS the same Timothy W. Cannon, former director of Human Resources at FEMA.

Check out the 2000 article with the picture.

The 2000 article picture matches the pictures in the other links.

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ninja

Same Timothy Wayne Cannon who later on became an Army Military Police.

From a Wilmington, Delaware newspaper dated February 1962.

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Roh-Dog

1962 or ’72?

If 63 in ’13 YoB ’50… me math is Infantry-status, as gud az mi englush

ninja

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ninja

Well, we were wrong.

Turns out the Timothy W. Cannon from the 1961 article from Scranton, Delaware was born in late 1949, instead of early 1950, so the Stolen Car Timothy W. Cannon is NOT the same as Colonel Timothy W. Cannon who was Military Police with the Army Reserves.

We apologize for the error.

Colonel Timothy W. Cannon, however, IS the same Timothy W. Cannon with the FEMA incident.

5JC

War College grad, DCS 1996 as well, that fits.

I am guessing that Discharge is his AR discharge. Why else would he be under an MP?

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rgr769

This proves he was in the IRR when he was given the Discharge Certificate.

Max

Why don’t they ban fentanyl?? Oh yeah no border; can’t ban fentanyl or gun or dirty bombs or ….

5JC

Amazing, he has a story for everything. He even invented a story about Cavazos.

Steven Spainhouer
FORT HOOD TEXAS TO BE RENAMED IN 2023

Lt General Richard Cavazos was the III Corps Commander, and Ft Hood Commander when I was assigned to the First Cavalry Division at the sprawling Army Post in central Texas in 1982.

The General was a unique leader who had a habit of climbing into Army tanks. I found this out the hard way.

I had no idea who was in my tank until the general popped his head out the commander’s hatch and I saw the three shiny silver stars on his cap.

Said General Cavazos, “Troop moral is important, Lieutenant, but we probably need to keep it more relevant.”

I had no idea at that time why he told me what he told me. I only learned why, when my tank driver told me he had been caught thumbing through a Playboy magazine by the General.

All I remember is that it was a brief encounter with a General who believed strongly in supporting the troops and in troop training.

Three weeks after our brief encounter, my platoon was detached and assigned to accompany the 1st Battalion 8th Cavalry on a no-notice deployment to Europe. I was told my tank platoon was chosen by General Cavazos,himself.

We excelled in the deployment, and we were given a pass from the war games after my platoon captured the opposing forces’ command headquarters on the morning the war games opened. (Getting lost, worked out really well)

That deployment success lead to my promotion to Battalion Support Platoon Leader and ultimately a company command as a first Lieutenant and ultimately a promo to serve as an Assistant Chief of Staff for the Commander of the First Cavalry Division.

Training and troop morale always remained centrist to everything I did as an Army Officer. I figured if it was important to a leader like Lt General Richard Cavazos, I might as well do t

5JC

The video is hard to watch. Not because of his vivid description of the events but because of all the lies he told. It might make you want to drive to Texas and beat his ass. Don’t do that, he is just politician trying to score points on the backs of crime victims, that isn’t anything new for Democrats.

USMCMSgt (Ret)

Everywhere he appears on YouTube needs to be met with ridicule and proof he’s an opportunistic liar.